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 That's shamefully UNamerican of them, why do they want to hate people?  
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			George Washington's Farewell Address Reenactment going on at this time (and will be available later in the archives): 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			The Congress is considering a motion associated with the Federal income tax... 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			A discussion about party politics, etc. and what we need to do with Dan Gonzales, Delegate from Florida.  Dan is the Vice-President of the Congress: 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			http://www.givemeliberty.org/CC2009/ Last edited by Seashore; 11-18-2009 at 12:42 AM.  | 
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			Red Beckman, Founder, Fully Informed Jurors Association is speaking: 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			![]() Robert's Rules of Order confuse the hell out of me! I don't know how these guys know what's going on... http://www.givemeliberty.org/CC2009/  | 
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			FROM MORAL PEOPLE, not secular people  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
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			One of the more colorful delegates, Schaeffer Cox of Alaska, is being interviewed... 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			It is difficult to hear the audio of what is going on with the delegates at the Congress right now, but I was able to discern that these delegates are under enormous pressure.  Some have stayed up all night working.  A delegate just expressed concern that he could be declared a terrorist and be sent to jail. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	The Congress concludes tomorrow. http://www.givemeliberty.org/CC2009/  | 
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			I'm enjoying listening to the delegates address the Congress... 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Each state was allowed 3 delegates, 1 of which was the voting delegate. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	48 states were represented. North Dakota had no nominees. Oklahoma had 3 delegates but evidently was not present. The District of Columbia had no votes cast so was not represented. From the website, here is the Seated Delegates List: Seated CC2009 Delegates Tim Hobbs - Alabama Schaeffer Cox - Alaska Gene Brokaw - Alaska Kath McCubbins-Carlson - Alaska Edward Vallejo - Arizona Howard Blitz - Arizona Sylvia Boutilier - Arizona David Helms - Arkansas Joseph Andrews - California Tony Dolz - California Orly Taitz - California KevinTebedo - Colorado * Mary Anne Tebedo - Colorado Terry Dodd - Colorado Gary Coats - Colorado Deborah Stevenson - Connecticut Bradley Waslenko - Connecticut Vince Pertoso - Connecticut Bruce Ray Riggs - Delaware Daniel Cook - Florida Dan Gonzales - Florida Dan O'Brien - Florida Ronald Danforth - Georgia Ernest Cunningham - Georgia Darren Hawk - Hawaii Paul Venable - Idaho Jack Stuart - Idaho Ronald Mann - Idaho Kurt Kallenbach - Illinois Rick Wos - Illinois Ron Teed - Illinois Gary Kah - Indiana James Getman - Iowa Clyde Cleveland - Iowa Mike Angelos - Iowa Reed Simpson - Kansas Jay Atkin - Kansas Richard Fry - Kansas Charles Zoeller - Kentucky Richard Treitz - Kentucky Lynda Farley - Kentucky Ryan McCain - Louisiana Wayne Leach - Maine Jack McCarthy - Maine Alan Lowberg - Maine William Newton - Maryland Jeanne Golrick - Massachusetts Jonathan Ferron - Massachusetts Colleen Golrick - Massachusetts Rick Butkowski - Michigan James Dowling - Michigan David Schied - Michigan Mark Johnson - Minnesota Kenneth Lucier - Minnesota Lyle G Daken - Minnesota W. Scott Sanford, M.D. - Mississippi Danny Bedwell - Mississippi Bruce Olley - Mississippi Catherine Bleish - Missouri Ray Herron - Missouri Ralph Saunders - Missouri Rick Jore - Montana Stan Jones - Montana Jerry O'Neil - Montana William Ramsey - Nebraska Ed Bridges - Nevada Wilton (Swannie) Swenson - Nevada Rick Humboldt - New Hampshire William Kostric - New Hampshire Frederick Harvey - New Hampshire Charles Lukens - New Jersey Peter Boyce - New Jersey Robert Nyholm - New Jersey Michael Lunnon - New Mexico Dave Batcheller - New Mexico Elisheva Levin - New Mexico Robert Schulz - New York John Wallace - New York William Berg - New York Jeff Lewis - North Carolina Michael Adamskie - North Carolina Bob Lightner - North Carolina Jim Davis - Ohio Ron Dickerhoof - Ohio Vicki Fleshman - Oregon Larry Graves - Oregon Margarete W.Murphy - Oregon Floyd Houdeshell, Jr. - Pennsylvania William Taylor Reil - Pennsylvania Hagen Smith - Pennsylvania Jeremy Doucet - Rhode Island Brian Frank - South Carolina Karen Ruff - South Carolina J.D. (Justin David) Shultis - South Dakota PK Lowrey - Tennessee Tona Monroe - Tennessee David Riden - Tennessee Michael Badnarik - Texas John Bush - Texas Jon Roland - Texas Mark Andrew Beach - Utah Gary Alder - Utah Scott Bradley - Utah Stewart Skrill - Vermont Michael Cushing - Vermont Larkin Forney - Vermont Tom DeWeese - Virginia Dean Smiley - Virginia Darin Stevens - Washington Jeff Williams - Washington Kevin Patrick - West Virginia Richard Church - Wisconsin Rudy Eckert - Wisconsin Brent Arnold - Wisconsin Catherine Vandemoer - Wyoming * I don't know why Colorado has 4 names listed. *********************************************** On this Thanksgiving Day, these are people I am thankful for! ![]() These names may go into the history books of the future. ***********************************************  | 
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			What follows is an article that sums up very well the crisis situation the United States is in regarding our Constitution and Bill of Rights. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			_______________________________________________ "Puggle Sam" ![]() Acrylic - Stained Glass 2009 19.5" x 30" x 1" Collaborative Art Piece with Mixed-Up Mosaics The Constitutional Bankruptcy of our Republic Nathan Janes PUPAGANDA.com Uncle Sam was created as a symbol of the United States representing the ideals of freedom, equality, and justice. Although this symbol has been a patriotic representation for over 150 years, Uncle Sam cannot stand as a fair symbol of our nation any longer. With recent attacks to the Constitution and Bill of Rights, citizens' rights have been eroded. If this long time representative of our nation could speak to us today perhaps he would remind us that our constitution gives us unalienable rights from the creator to the individual and can not under any circumstance be surrendered or taken. Contrary to the common misconception, the United States is a constitutional republic and not a democracy. In a republic, the sovereignty resides with the people themselves and one may act on his own or through his representatives when he chooses to confront a problem. The people have no obligation to the government; instead, the government is a servant of the people. Since September 11, 2001 we have been witnessing the destruction of our republic. Congress is gradually dismantling the Bill of Rights and the Constitution with the strong influence of the two most recent presidents. The public is distracted by a left/right paradigm that is controlled by the establishment. While the public is busy criticizing those on the other side of the paradigm, the establishment's power grab goes unchecked and our constitutional rights are further eroded. In this way national sovereignty and the freedom of individuals is being destroyed. On October 26, 2001, American citizens' right to privacy ended with the passage of the Patriot Act. Of the 435 US Representatives, the Patriot Act was read by no one before it was voted on and passed, a violation of the Representatives' oath of office. The 342 paged bill allows for violations to citizens' rights including the search of home and property without knowledge or consent of the citizen, known as "sneak and peek" spying. Also permitted by the bill is the indefinite imprisonment of any citizen without due process, access to the courts, or the counsel of a lawyer. The Federal Bureau of Investigation is now able to obtain records from businesses, hospitals, bookstores, and libraries for any reason and can search phone, email, and financial records without a court order. Since the passing of the Patriot Act, a number of bills have been initiated and passed by Congress, which further violate citizens' liberties. The Military Commissions Act of October 17, 2006 assigns dictatorial powers to the president while stripping citizens of the right to habeas corpus. The John Warner National Defense Act empowers military troops to police within US cities during emergency situations to suppress public disorder and dissent, a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. The US has also engaged in torture, initiated undeclared wars, built FEMA camps that closely resemble concentration camps, encouraged the public to spy on each other, and committed several other acts that allow the government to have increased control over the lives of its citizens. A number of groups and individuals constitute the establishment or ruling class elite and weld enormous influence over our country's policy makers. Our government servants are constantly changing laws to favor and protect global banks. While the Constitution is being destroyed, these global bankers are committing financial terrorism. The private banking cartel of the Federal Reserve has been all but openly permitted to bankrupt our country and destroy our wealth, setting up the need for a global currency. The multinational corporations as well as the technocrats of large foundations and other non-governmental organizations lobby congress with a large degree of influence as well. Seldom is it the voice of ordinary citizens the shapes the actions and opinions of our representatives in congress. From the influence of the global powers and ruling establishment a new world order is emerging. Once only recognized by the media as mere conspiracy, it is now considered a reality as hundreds of articles across the world address this issue on a weekly basis. The standardization of one system of government throughout the world is steadily being introduced as we come into the Age of World Managers. If you look at the charter and mandate of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Royal Institute of International Affairs, you will see that the future they envision is a world of service. According to these documents, every individual's only purpose will be to serve the world state. We are living through a cultural revolution right now that is transitioning us into a world system. The major media plays a significant role in forming social opinion as it relates to global and national events. Many people's thoughts and opinions are chiefly shaped by what they view on television. These individuals have been trained not to look at the obvious but only at what is presented to them. This country has fallen victim to a form of psychic tyranny, where we have become mind slaves of major media mainly through the use of television. If you study Stalin you will see how those in power know that the masses can be strongly influenced by repetition. The media bombards the public with repetition of certain thoughts or opinions and individuals slowly start to adopt these thoughts and opinions as their own. Lenin once said, "We shall conquer the world by the use of slogans." President Obama was elected on an array of slogans one of which was taken from a children's cartoon, "Yes We Can." Our culture, created mainly by the mass media, has trained the public to be docile and apathetic. The people of the US have become conditioned to accept what is presented to them; they are kept in a state of ignorance as to the true on goings of our government. Rather than trust themselves, many people will only shape their opinions from those who are presented as experts or authority figures in the mass media. In this way the US resembles the beginnings of a scientific dictatorship- a managed society ruled by the intellectual elite. It will be through the use of slogans and scientific experts that the new world order will be ushered in; the establishment is ensuring a smooth transition to a global system without significant opposition from the people. Public relations pioneer Edward Bernays wrote in his 1928 book, "Propaganda", "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country…" Everyday it grows more evident that we do not control the government; the government is controlled by the global elite who are increasingly managing the people. Our nation is becoming something that we have long fought against. A repressive society has been created within this once great nation and "we the people" are unwittingly becoming serfs to our own public servants. Their objective to rule rests in the annihilation of our consciousness as they create a state of learned helplessness among the masses. If we don't wake up and become conscious of where our country is heading, we may soon find ourselves in a world resembling a prison planet of total centralized control where all our freedoms are taken away for our supposed security. It's time for people to start being individuals and to create independent thought. Since 2001, government officials have repeatedly said, "Terrorists hate us for our freedom." Now it is clear that the true terrorists are the ruling establishment working through those who are elected to represent and serve the people. The views expressed in this article are the sole responsibility of the author and do not reflect those of Mixed-Up Mosaics. _______________________________________________ Now that the Continental Congress 2009 has concluded, it is up to we the people to follow-up and do our part to implement the Articles of Freedom that have been established as a result of the hard work done by this gathering of patriots. Last edited by Seashore; 12-01-2009 at 06:14 PM. Reason: Format  | 
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			![]() BlogTalkRadio has a show called "Revolution Radio." Continental Congress 2009 has been featured on the show. There is an "On Demand Episode" available to listen to. Here is a copy and paste of the blurb: ______________________________________________ On Demand Episodes Original Air Date: 12/2/2009 9:30 PM Revolution Radio Report on the Continental Congress 2009! Join drkate and other CC2009 delegates for a discussion of the exciting 11-day Continental Congress. Tonight we will be joined by Terry Dodd, delegate from Colorado, constitutional scholar and CC2009 faculty member Red Beckman, and other delegates. We hope you will take the time to listen in, learn about the "Articles of Freedom," and become part of the critical mass needed to return to constitutional governance! ______________________________________________ Here's the link. Scroll down to the "On Demand Episodes." I recommend downloading (right-click & Save Link As...) so that you can use your own player. Also be advised the intro lasts about 3 1/2 minutes: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drkate  | 
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