Be careful not to be gullible.

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by Steven

Hello Warrior. Thank you for your thread. We have people who needs to touch, see and taste before they will believe anything and there are people ready to believe anything that makes sens.

One of the issue with gullible people is that they have no reference. Their perspective is different at each analyze. They do not analyze under the light of a verified and true reference point. There is no anchor anywhere in their point of view, so it is easy to accept a false idea right away.

Perspective is often more important than information itself and this is where I see most people are having issue with when we see fringe information being interpreted as fantasy or the opposite...

Namaste, Steven

Great post Steven...good thread WS...

I suffer as you do.....but what can I do...Shake someone till they wake up or their neck snaps....

Out in the "real" world ...intelligence ain't the IN thing.

The lower your IQ seems to be ...the more cool you are.

We elect officials that "look" the part and speak the speak ...and they don't have a brain in their head.

We don't elect the greatest teachers of justice and law...the truly "smart" folks.

If they speak out ...the PTBs silence them and they live in a shack in the ghetto if they aren't sleeping with the fishes.

Someone slipped us into a rigged poker game....the brilliant thought of a perceived freedom tyranny

The bars you can't see make a great prison.

The only tech they truly have given us make us work harder for THEM and entertain us when we are waiting to serve them again.

Sitting in the corner with a shiny rock waiting for master to scream for " MORE WINE dog!!!!

I played in the game then someone whispered in my ear...Dude it's fixed...get out!!!

Then I became a "sleep walker" still asleep but up moving around looking like I'm not asleep.

A lot of folks in here suffer sleep walking...awake but wandering aimless.

Now...not being an abductee...never seen an alien...bigfoot....nessie....can't project myself astrally....can't meditate....not a brilliant mind of our time.

Just flying by my pants from an internal compass and no point of reference on the horizon.

But through all that....I feel like I'm growing

Everything that I feel or believe might be wrong...but I'm still growing

What I perceive as reality becomes MY reality...a little womb to grow

Peace all

[Steven]

Originally Posted by Steven

...Perspective is often more important than information itself and this is where I see most people are having issue with when we see fringe information being interpreted as fantasy or the opposite...

Namaste, Steven

But having an exclusive perspective that is immovable like a giant rock and prevent yourself from changing your point of view is sadly fatal also. See once again it's the "balance in all things" which is the reference point. Having enough strong verified and experiential perspective but being open to observe other point of view and perspective. So you can change... And adapt.

Namaste, Steven

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

Sadly, I think most people on this forum (and those in the "Disclosure" movement) are not only going to have the wool pulled over their eyes, but scores of people, all over the globe are about to reach a delusion of such massive proportion, that it's going to be the end of humanity as we know it.

It's written all over the wall. In my genuine, sincere and watchful opinion - what I see here is 95% of people peeing in each others pockets. I don't say that because I just like causing trouble. I SINCERELY mean it. If you don't agree with me, feel free to respond. My aim isn't to be insulting (although I do acknowledge that this post WILL be taken as such by many) -- I just want to give everyone a kick in the pants and say: SNAP OUT OF IT!

That's a pretty negative outlook right there.

No one can ever claim to be more "enlightened" than another. However, I think that most of us have taken the necessary baby steps to become acquainted with a world that goes beyond materialistic desires and simplistic means/ends.

Please don't allow your frustrations with people in general to overcome your ability to see good in them. We've all been there, at least I know I have. As much as people can annoy each other sometimes, it's worth it to try and forgive their shortcomings and let it go. Everyone makes mistakes.

[Humble Janitor]

The "God" I know exists inside of me and it exists inside of each of us.

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

The "God" I know exists inside of me and it exists inside of each of us.

That is it in a nut shell.
Jesus said much the same.


There is no where where God is not. The totality, all of it.
To my mind, respect all but be devoted only to God.

I suspect that if Jesus was here today he would be horrified that a religion was founded in his name. He pointed to God all of the time. It was all about God and the message Jesus brought to us. He dident say worship me. He showed the way. He did not claim specialness and in fact said that we could do more even than him.
He said " Of my self I do nothing it is the Father within who is the doer" not an exact quote perhaps.

Anyway that is just my view point I respect all others.

Chris

[BROOK]

So guys...while he's gone...I want to invite you all to a satanic party at my place.....I'm inviting some reptilians too...should be loads of fun

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by BROOK

So guys...while he's gone...I want to invite you all to a satanic party at my place.....I'm inviting some reptilians too...should be loads of fun

Oh darn Brook I have nothing to wear.......does this mean I have to go shopping

[greybeard]

Which ever version of the Bible is used . it will say.
Judge not. Judgment is mine sayth the Lord.

Respect to all who contribute.

Chris

[Bill Ryan]

Originally Posted by Sarahmay

I humbly suggest that perhaps this is not the forum for you.

I agree. I dropped in here briefly after receiving a complaint. I also suggest that this is not the forum for you. Please consider moving on, as you have said that you might well do.

I'm not saying this wearing a moderator hat. It's a personal request. I've read your posts, and I don't think you belong here. I wish you well and I hope that you may find a suitable audience for your strong ideas.

What's causing offense is not what you're saying: I agree with some of your points. But it's about energy. It's the way you are saying it and the effect that has on others. Do consider this when you go to your next forum to contribute.

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

I agree. I dropped in here briefly after receiving a complaint. I also suggest that this is not the forum for you. Please consider moving on, as you have said that you might well do.

I'm not saying this wearing a moderator hat. It's a personal request. I've read your posts, and I don't think you belong here. I wish you well and I hope that you may find a suitable audience for your strong ideas.

What's causing offense is not what you're saying: I agree with some of your points. But it's about energy. It's the way you are saying it and the effect that has on others. Do consider this when you go to your next forum to contribute.

Hi Bill,

Sorry - I was just trying to get people's attention so that they listen.

Will you invite me to stay if I lose the theatrics?

[BROOK]

My question is..why do you want to stay? It has been made clear that you think we are all "full of the demon" And delusional. This is not a place for you to run us into the ground with your opinion that we are "playing" witht The demons and devel.

Do you think you need to be here to convert us? Tell us that our experiences are null and void..and only "your" God will save us?

We are a pretty sharp bunch for the most part. I reccomend you actually read some of the threads in the spirituality section before you "JUDGE" us.

[Phtha]

Great thread. I have not read through the comments yet, but I agree with your opening post, I've seen this happen far to often myself and I also think that this is a key issue that has a serious potential at bringing an end to humanity as you say.

I choose to remain optimistic if only because I know that the masses really do mean well and want peace, even if they think that means war. So if the truth hits them like a ten ton hammer they will do the right thing at the right time. This is what I see.

It all comes down to authority again. People take a belief and turn it into a Truth which is not but a lie. Only a knowing is a Truth.

Thanks for the post.

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Phtha

Great thread. I have not read through the comments yet, but I agree with your opening post, I've seen this happen far to often myself and I also think that this is a key issue that has a serious potential at bringing an end to humanity as you say.

I choose to remain optimistic if only because I know that the masses really do mean well and want peace, even if they think that means war. So if the truth hits them like a ten ton hammer they will do the right thing at the right time. This is what I see.

It all comes down to authority again. People take a belief and turn it into a Truth which is not but a lie. Only a knowing is a Truth.

Thanks for the post.

My biggest point, out of everything, is that I want people to start "being real", and stop treating everything like a big joke.

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

My biggest point, out of everything, is that I want people to start "being real", and stop treating everything like a big joke.

I laugh when I need to...serious at times.

Your energy signature is not right for your audience.....leave it at that.

You should have waded in and maybe not did a triple gainer belly flop.

Some of our chins are just above the water line.

Peace

[THE eXchanger]

you do it, to be it
you be it, to do it

it is as simple, as that

it does NOT pay to critise others
NOR, fight with others

in fact, anyone who chooses to fight
with another, in my humble grand-dads opinion
then, he viewed them both as fools

there is no doubt,
you can fling a lot of mud,
however, if you are throwing mud at dirt,
it isn't going to show up - as, anything
other than a total waste of your time

we are here, to help one another - it is as simple as that

it is a discovery of truth

my truth, might not be your truth

but, until i change, my belief, it will NOT be a truth

when you get, to the end of your life

it won't be who you fought with, that matters

it will b, who / and, what you cared enough to share

and, how you shared it

hopefully with a high heart/and, a high mind engaged

did you know, right now
there are a lot of people - who once, were gulliable

they believed something for truth

and, they researched it,

only to find out, their original truth

was NOT the truth,
and, they found something more, NOT
something less

the best, anyone can do

is be the 'best' change you can be
in any pivot of the now

and, keep caring, eXchanging, and, sharing

sometimes, if you ask yourself,

is it kind, does it add value, will it make another discover more

will my comments, make another feel better/or, help them
create solutions

it is then, and, only then, we share 'nuggets' that are 'gems'

as bill, so wisely says--
attitude, often determines the altitude you rise too

if you have ever climbed a mountain,
you will certainly know that, as, the wisest of truths

thank you bill
for all you do

always remember, 'the gulliable' do 'awaken' in their time

love/susan
the eXchanger

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

it does NOT pay to critise others
NOR, fight with others

Informing people that Satan exists and that he is influencing ALL of us, including "myself" is not a criticizm of others -- and I am sorry that people around here think that it is. I stand by what I have said.

I am also sorry that people think I am "fighting". I am merely reiterating what I have said. If you go back through the thread, I am POSITIVE you will see that many people have been MUCH harsher, towards me "personally: that I have with my general statements (that are open for people to associate themselves with - or not). It just so happens that many people are associating "THEMSELVES" with what I have stated.

Originally Posted by eXchanger

we are here, to help one another - it is as simple as that

it is a discovery of truth

my truth, might not be your truth

Truth is truth. We can't have different truths. That is a fact! Such a declaration is dangerous, and is is a New Age philosophy. "Perception" might be the word you're looking for. We can have different "perceptions", but we cannot have different truths.

Originally Posted by eXchanger

sometimes, if you ask yourself,

is it kind, does it add value, will it make another discover more

will my comments, make another feel better/or, help them
create solutions

I do not only make comments that make people feel warm and fuzzy. (That's for the New Ager's). What I say is rooted in being "serious" and that's not always pretty. It's not always nice to hear.

Originally Posted by eXchanger

always remember, 'the gulliable' do 'awaken' in their time

And I wish to help them along - whether they like me for it or not.

[Sarahmay]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

My biggest point, out of everything, is that I want people to start "being real", and stop treating everything like a big joke.

Life is just a dream, sweetheart.

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by BROOK

My question is..why do you want to stay? It has been made clear that you think we are all "full of the demon" And delusional. This is not a place for you to run us into the ground with your opinion that we are "playing" witht The demons and devel.

I never said you are all full of demons and delusional.

Originally Posted by BROOK

Do you think you need to be here to convert us? Tell us that our experiences are null and void..and only "your" God will save us?

I am not religious. What am I going to convert you to?

Originally Posted by BROOK

We are a pretty sharp bunch for the most part. I reccomend you actually read some of the threads in the spirituality section before you "JUDGE" us.

I have not judged anyone on this forum.

[BROOK]

You better go back and read what you've written here...

You statements that all of what we are working on here is involving demons...states such.

You are trying to convert us...by telling us such things.

And you have certainly JUDGED us.

What was that word...Nords?

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by BROOK

You better go back and read what you've written here...

You statements that all of what we are working on here is involving demons...states such.

You are trying to convert us...by telling us such things.

And you have certainly JUDGED us.

What was that word...Nords?

Then I suggest you go back and reanalyze what I wrote, because you've obviously misunderstood me.

The word was "nong".

I apologise for calling you nongs - but I was slightly frustrated that no one likes to be told that Satan actually exists and that he is affecting people all over the planet.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

Then I suggest you go back and reanalyze what I wrote, because you've obviously misunderstood me.

The word was "nong".

I apologise for calling you nongs - but I was slightly frustrated that no one likes to be told that Satan actually exists and that he is affecting people all over the planet.

Thanks for the correction..and what does that mean? Not a judgement now is it?

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by BROOK

Thanks for the correction..and what does that mean? Not a judgement now is it?

A nong is a word that could be used in front of a 5 year old child.

It is the strongest word I have used on this forum.

It basically means: A wally. Or A twit.

In all fairness, I was called "pathetic".

So I think it's:

Forum 5
WarriorServant 1

I'm happy to leave it at that.

[Samarkis]

Hello Warriorservant.....

I would like to discuss some things with you via private messaging......
You are very new to our forum and I would be willing to discuss certain issues about enlightenment and knowing Godsource........

We at Avalon understand that there are many walks of life and we sincerely honor many paths........what the other members are reacting to is that you are somehow not showing due respect to them..........

It is my opinion that this is based on misunderstandings and I would be willing to share some info and insights with you as well as hear some from you......

In Light!

[no caste]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

Satan actually exists and that he is affecting people all over the planet.

WS - orthodoxymoron has been saying that on the forum for over a year, in great detail and with thoroughness IMO.

orthodoxymoron threads
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...ymoron+threads

Have you read his posts? It might be interesting to know what you make of them.

[Malletzky]

Hey WS, as I said, if you would just take some time do some research, you would know that one of the best threads we've had here about Jesus was the one created by Egg (who is not here any more, I guess).

No one shouted at him, but we all had a big pleasure to contribute on that thread.

So I'm sorry when I hear you say things like you'll be not allowed to talk about Jesus here, it is not true...

Here's the link to that thread...you might want to read...

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ighlight=jesus

By the way, I'm more then willing to hear what you have to say about Jesus...if it's a firsthand expirience...in an apropriate manner...

with and respect
malletzky