Are people losing interest?

[Skylark]

Originally Posted by Topper

Because project camelot hasn't come up with any new whistleblower tidbits for everyone to comment on. We haven't heard from Benjamin Fulford, David Wilcock.
Bob Dean's last interview told us that the ets won't let anything happen to us. He went around in circles, saying very little.
My feeling is that maybe the govt knows what they're doing in holding back info. Maybe they know that the masses aren't ready for the info they hold. That if the truth were to be told most people of our planet would freak.
We know that some people at projects avalon and camelot are having trouble processing the info they are given, including me. I'm trying to get my head wrapped around it all.
I still believe that everyone needs to visualize and send out strong positive energy to heal Mother Earth. To send peace, love and joy to all beings throughout the universe, and encircle our earth with a shield, a giant bubble of White Light that will repel all negitivity from our planet. Encluding Nibiru. This can be done if everyone joins in on Sunday at 12:00 to meditate and send out positive energy for the greatest good of our Earth and those that dwell upon her...............Chaye

yeah Ben Fulford was on Rense the other day there though. There are other sources out there too. David Wilcock has his own site divinecosmos and if you have not seen it it's very good.

a few people were saying back in the thread a bit that Bill and kerry went missing for a few weeks leaving the forum floundering or something and I think, with respect, this is a similar comment.

This forum is not Bill and Kerry or Ben Fulford or anyone, its us. Its for meeting and exchanging ideas for our and the Earths survival and remembering and becoming our true spiritual beings. I think we all need to have that as the first thought in our mind maybe when we log on, or at least something similar. There are lots of conspiracy/ET/shennanigans websites for all that stuff and after the initial outpouring and "oh my God! Crashing economy, alien invasion, martial law!'' discussions and feet finding (entirely valid and necessary btw) we perhaps should try to focus more on the overarching aim.

Bill and Kerry have done an amazing thing making this site. Thank you so much guys! But they ain't in charge or responsible for it, they can't be holding our hands through it. If they aren't on it for a while thats a pity, but they have their own stuff to do too, same as Fulford and all the rest. We should be doing the same as them really, out there spending their time and lives to provide us with info.

personable responsibility, we have to do our own work.

I D and G'd myself into a knot listening to the economy and martial law stuff but I'm glad because I feel I do understand it now and although I can still hear Alex Jones ringing in my ears i ca explain it to my friends and family and it makes sense.

But now I am getting my head into Len Horowitz and Marko Rodin and its much more fulfilling and I think much more productive by far towards doing something like Topper suggests and getting a positive energy vibration thats real and doable (hopefully!)

[Reveling John]

I think this is all par for the course. The process of waking is one of continuous humility, reflection and revelation. It's up to those who are arrogant to humble themselves, and those who are afraid of the consequences of speaking out to face those consequence and step into their fear. I feel this is a perfect oppurtunity being presented to each of us and also to all of us as a whole. This community is STRONG. I FEEL Love here, inspite of me never having physically experienced a single being on this forum.

The challenges that we each percieve here are personal challenges for each of us to explore and process. This is the preparation that we've chosen to undertake just before things really start to spin. And they've already started.

So keep workin, keep Loving, keep experiencing, being, knowing, not knowing, loosing, finding, eating, wanting

Dreaming!

Great Love,
John

[gwangsun]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

Hi gwangsun,

I don't think people are losing interest in the forum. If that was the case, people would be leaving the forum, but the opposite is true.

I could understand that after the speight of some interviews that were posted and that a certain calm, albeit temporary, seems to have come across the financial markets and the expectations of the elections in the US (where the majority of members of this forum are from), there seems to be less posting. However, once again the opposite is true.

The number of visits to the site and number of posts has been steadily increasing, however I would admit that the subject of the postings has, to a certain degree, moved accross from politics and economy to spirituality, but spirituality is one of the central themes of the forum.....
Steve

Steve A,

Thanks a lot for the response . I really didn't expect this topic to take off the way it did. I haven't been able to keep up with it between everything else I have going on.

I appreciate everyones input on the topic and thank everyone for taking the time to share whats on their minds.

\\// Peace

[JohnWdoe]

For me personally i have been doing other things as of late - playing my guitar&acoustic reading a nice book on world history right now (its about 600 pages) also i have been picking through my Nazi Germany book collection and just reading away, maybe Russia will be next. That aside i am not a Nazi or even Nazi Sympathizer i just find it interesting.

Funny how humans are attracted to the messes of humanity... what does it do for me? shows me how to be a better person and dispute these racist scum bags.

i just ordered Brotherhood of the Bell so i can't wait to dig into that one!

[Topper]

Skylark, I thank you for the positive words and encourgement to continue with our meditation to protect and heal our Mother Earth. Also a big kudos to Bill and Kerry for what they have created for our benefit.

Peace and love...Chaye & Topper

I hope you can join in on Sunday, the Mass Consciousness Coalition meditation to stop war and heal our planet. Its only for two minutes at 12:00 noon, eastern standard time. She needs all the help she can get.

[Skylark]

Topper, glad to swap lines with you.
As seems to happen so often with this forum I feel a lot better now than when I logged on! there is a magic or whatever we want to call it here
I'll be delighted to join the meditation on Sunday, thanks. i meant to join in on that when it was first started, its been going a while now hasn't it? so much on here you get lost wandering through the threads...
Thats 16:00 my time Sunday then.
peace and love to you

[Topper]

Awesome,,,Skylark, welcome aboard. On behalf of our Mother Earth, we thank you.
Please turn it on to any you can.

Peace, love and harmony...Chaye & Topper

[Frank69]

Well I am still here...gosh, webbot's Oct 7th is only 3 weeks ago and imho spot on...and Nov 15 cometh...And right now onto the elections I am at my very qui vive.

But yes I can imagine Oct 14 disappointment...

Yet it's nice though to constructively discuss doom&gloom without continuous attacks with love.

It has been interesting for the members who have been here from the start to see how things have been progressing though. Mmmmmmmmmmmh.

With the amount of posts I see here. It looks like there is much interest. Try not to get discouraged and stay balanced. Avalon is a great place for learning new and interesting topics.

If you can decipher on what is important to you and the rest, you will benefit for being a member here. I wish everyone peace and love. I hope you stay and create a new positive vibe here.

Cheers,
Kevin

[TranceAm]

After reading all the responses in this thread, how about this as a solution:

If one agrees with a thread and has additional information that could or would add besides "I agree" then one adds in a reply said info to the thread.

If one disagrees with the/a thread, the subject or the subject matter, one either starts a new thread with the counter information, or one refrains totally from posting in the thread one disagrees with..

No more (in)fighting. No more disagreement, since there is no disagreement to read, since if one disagrees, one won't post, or won't react to the thread.

And heaven forbid, the reader all by themselves has to make up their mind without government/troll/shill help what to take as truth, and what not to touch with a ten foot pole. (And it will identify the "sinners" as such with red flaggs they tag themselves with by posting.. ;-)

(Just a suggestion, that would take with a lot of discipline a lot of the problems away..)
I must confess upto now, I have sinned a couple of times..

Now this forum is not a democracy, but that doesn't mean we (The Users and potential beneficiaries of the shared info.) have to wait for the owners to enforce something we could volunteer for since it is a "good" way to do business....

[Knightbk]

Originally Posted by gwangsun

I noticed over the past couple of days less and less posting and people logged into Project Avalon forums. What could be causing this?

I have noticed though alot of threads forecasting possible events that lately have not been turning out. I figure it could be one of two possibilities

1. Things are just not happening for various reasons we don't know.
or
2. The PTB are monitoring whats being spoken about on the net and are making sure events are not easily predicted and are purposely manipulating things so that those who are trying to foretell lose credibility.

What do you think?

I have lost interest in this site and all sites like it on the internet and have greatly slowed down visiting of these sites.

Why?

Many people here are depressing, fear mongering, hopeless and dare I say crazy and it was starting to affect my day to day life. According to many people here, I may as well put a gun to my head and kill myself now because the "end is nigh!" and we are going to die anyways.

Now because I expect to get flamed by this, let me give a few examples:

• Everybody dying on 2012:
  Many people believe that the end of the world is coming in Dec of 2012 yet there is absolutely no proof for this, at all, whatsoever. All the proof that is developed comes from hearsay, unconfirmed sources, phony science and huge jumps in conclusion.
  
  If you disagree, then you are essentially told you "wake up and see the truth!". The fact that nobody has any proof to go with the truth is ignored.
  
  
• The Economy Collapsing:
  Many people here expect the economy to collapse over night and everybody to starve and die, so they are preparing. They believe this because the Stock Market tanked or some blog site said the end is nigh or whatever.
  
  What they fail to consider of course is that there are 308 million people in the United States that do not want to starve to death. Even if 50% of them are utterly useless "eaters" the simple fact is, their are plenty of others willing to work their ass off and sacrifice to keep the other people at least eating.
  
  Economies don't "collapse" over night unless War, Pestilance or disaster strike. If that happens, gold coins and 3 tonnes of SPAM in your basement wont save you either.
  
• Buy Gold!
  I've done some research on many of the "Buy Gold" analysts and guess what? Most have a hidden agenda on Gold. It is the same as a Real Estate agent telling you to "buy a house now, the prices are only going to go up" in California 2 years ago.
  

I could go on and on but whats the point.

It is my belief that our society has lost focus. People are lost. They have no purpose in life and they come to places like this because it gives them a way to seak purpose.

However, this site and others like it just promote fear and propoganda of their own.




Obviously, you are all free to believe what you wish.

Myself?
If the world comes to an end, I will either be dead when it happens (nuke or asteroid) or I will use my brain to survive with my friends and family.

I REFUSE to listen anymore to people who intentionally or unintentionally want to scare the **** out of me instead because of some nonsense they believe.



So with that being said, I want to declare that I have AWAKEN. I am free. If I die tomorrow, so be it. If the world goes to hell, I will do my best to survive and change things. As for the rest of it, I do not care.

To each his own. Take care my brothers and sisters, whatever path you choose.

[ET137]

on a fundamental level, there is nothing special going on here. avalon is just another online funhouse to study spirituality 101 on the web, complete with all the bizarre mirrors and smoke, poor lighting and uneven floors.

avalon might as well be a church... any church... with its varied participants indoctrinating your average undeveloped american mind to its set of "guidelines for awakening".

many of you simply traded the beliefs from your childhood religions for those available here in the forum - (and have yet to realize that it's just more junk food gathered from the unhealthy minds of others....spoiled entirely of truth).

in time, (years for most people), you come to see ...that in blindly adopting the belief system of others is just more of the same unconscious living... there's nothing "awake" about absorbing the beliefs of others at all.... and it is not going to change the world.

watch and see.

why? because most of you have simply jumped ship, and are now on the other side with equal fervor as before, but you're unknowingly polarized to the same ideas you were prior. you are cemented in time, unable to affect change, because you're anchored in beliefs that are greatly limited by your footing.

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young people....

most of you have only begun to uncover many of the subjects here. what you don't realize is that some of us have been exploring these concepts for decades, many of us having done so online from the first few months the internet came into existence. we have hashed and rehashed the same words here in the forums to where they no longer have meaning for us. they hold no power.... because we know truth is greater than any concept in the mental body.

(remember all concepts/thoughts appear and then disappear in the mental body. at some point, you need to move from being a spiritual seeker, to being a "finder". and when you make that transition - you'll find that you are the space that allows all thoughts/concepts to appear and disappear within the mental body, rather than any thought you think during the breath).

most here at avalon continue to look for the same kind of change that the christians have, someone - anyone - a teacher - a guru - a whistleblower - an ET - some thread of truth from somewhere to lead you with its guidance and prophecy along the way to a NEW WORLD... rather than stepping into the authentic shoes of your life and putting all this b.s. aside and becoming the vision of peace TODAY. (you are the hundredth monkey, here and NOW).

very few of us are strong enough to embark on a solo journey here... but for those who are... and do...at some point you will graduate from identifying with thoughts, and leave all this spirituality 101 chit chat behind. this event happens naturally... as a plant or tree naturally reach upward into the light of the sun pushing free of mud and rock. once you have reconciled the extremes within your own personality, (and again - that will happen when you have allowed all opposites to stand as One source of energy), without preferring any one over the other - you will find no need to talk or ponder 99% of the language here any longer. nor will you need to scan all the threads.... but rather, you'll know when and where to smile... and then be on your way.

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perhaps the turning point for most spiritual seekers... where you've been entirely focused on motion and the movements of mind.... in time you will find yourself encouraged to notice what never moves, and what has never moved in all of time. and that is when the journey of awakening really begins. up to this point, and far beyond for many of us, very few will have the courage and intelligence to enter this rabbit hole. awakening is about recognizing the limits of the mind, and tracing the origin of its light. for those of us who know this... we have no need of validation from others around the truth. it can't be validated as such. and any debating of it as such is futile to those who know it can't be held in a thought.

for those who say i can't comprehend this, that's exactly right. unconditional love cannot be thought, that's why all the great teachers throughout history pointed to the heart. it's not in the head. and for those of us who live and identify solely as the head ---- they have no chance of ever waking.

i wish you each a most peaceful unraveling.... knowing that if even one thing were off course in the universe, if just one thing were "out of place" in our lives, the entire universe would collapse like a row of dominoes; you can't ever truly be lost in the body of creation.

my participation in this thread has now ended. if you have a message for me, know that i will hear you telepathically.

warm regards,
sincerely,
ET

[Jma]

I think there is too much time going by between interviews(weeks) and people get bored. We are all freebies I know, so we can´t demand as in unsatisfied customers ,but the interviews is what most of us are here for.
I also understand travel etc would tire any human being.
Just a humble opinion.

[Average Joe]

Originally Posted by Knightbk

I have lost interest in this site and all sites like it on the internet and have greatly slowed down visiting of these sites.

Why?

Many people here are depressing, fear mongering, hopeless and dare I say crazy and it was starting to affect my day to day life. According to many people here, I may as well put a gun to my head and kill myself now because the "end is nigh!" and we are going to die anyways.

Now because I expect to get flamed by this, let me give a few examples:

• Everybody dying on 2012:
  Many people believe that the end of the world is coming in Dec of 2012 yet there is absolutely no proof for this, at all, whatsoever. All the proof that is developed comes from hearsay, unconfirmed sources, phony science and huge jumps in conclusion.
  
  If you disagree, then you are essentially told you "wake up and see the truth!". The fact that nobody has any proof to go with the truth is ignored.
  
  
• The Economy Collapsing:
  Many people here expect the economy to collapse over night and everybody to starve and die, so they are preparing. They believe this because the Stock Market tanked or some blog site said the end is nigh or whatever.
  
  What they fail to consider of course is that there are 308 million people in the United States that do not want to starve to death. Even if 50% of them are utterly useless "eaters" the simple fact is, their are plenty of others willing to work their ass off and sacrifice to keep the other people at least eating.
  
  Economies don't "collapse" over night unless War, Pestilance or disaster strike. If that happens, gold coins and 3 tonnes of SPAM in your basement wont save you either.
  
• Buy Gold!
  I've done some research on many of the "Buy Gold" analysts and guess what? Most have a hidden agenda on Gold. It is the same as a Real Estate agent telling you to "buy a house now, the prices are only going to go up" in California 2 years ago.
  

I could go on and on but whats the point.

It is my belief that our society has lost focus. People are lost. They have no purpose in life and they come to places like this because it gives them a way to seak purpose.

However, this site and others like it just promote fear and propoganda of their own.




Obviously, you are all free to believe what you wish.

Myself?
If the world comes to an end, I will either be dead when it happens (nuke or asteroid) or I will use my brain to survive with my friends and family.

I REFUSE to listen anymore to people who intentionally or unintentionally want to scare the **** out of me instead because of some nonsense they believe.



So with that being said, I want to declare that I have AWAKEN. I am free. If I die tomorrow, so be it. If the world goes to hell, I will do my best to survive and change things. As for the rest of it, I do not care.

To each his own. Take care my brothers and sisters, whatever path you choose.

Absolutely brilliant post and lots of food for thought.

Also, none of the recent predictions have happened. The nearest strike was October 7th, but we knew financial troubles were around the corner anyway, it was obvious. But where was the complete economic collapse, like a domino effect? Didn't happen did it. And let me tell you something, its not going to either. There may be tough times ahead....whats new? Boom and bust, that the way its always been...... but if you think about it a complete financial meltdown does not serve the PTB's purpose anyway.

As for some of the other crackpot ramblings on here, well words are beyond me.

There is some interesting and useful stuff on here, some nuggets of truth on various subjects are probably there, but it is well diluted and that is a shame.

People always say "take what is true to you"......NO! Truth is truth and false is false. YOUR truth doesn't mean its true. I want THE truth, whoevers truth it may be.

[Mikill]

The TRUTH,you can't handle the TRUTH!!!
As far a someone saying that next year would be very interesting....you all know the old chinese saying...Cursed are those who live in interesting times.

Originally Posted by Average Joe

Absolutely brilliant post and lots of food for thought.

Also, none of the recent predictions have happened. The nearest strike was October 7th, but we knew financial troubles were around the corner anyway, it was obvious. But where was the complete economic collapse, like a domino effect? Didn't happen did it. And let me tell you something, its not going to either. There may be tough times ahead....whats new? Boom and bust, that the way its always been...... but if you think about it a complete financial meltdown does not serve the PTB's purpose anyway.

As for some of the other crackpot ramblings on here, well words are beyond me.

There is some interesting and useful stuff on here, some nuggets of truth on various subjects are probably there, but it is well diluted and that is a shame.

People always say "take what is true to you"......NO! Truth is truth and false is false. YOUR truth doesn't mean its true. I want THE truth, whoevers truth it may be.

Agree with the poster. No one has the total answer. There are 'nuggets of truth' but finding them is a guessing game and coloured by your own belief systems. As an overview there are disasters predicted on here and camelot from 2008-2012. They can't all be right. The general view is 'something bad will happen'. That will colour a lot of viewers perceptions with negativity.

Although I find myself visiting this site for positive vibes the overwhelming negative views of the immediate future mean I will reduce my visits here.

Peace.

[micjer]

I agree that no one has all the answers. I have not listened (or read) to anyone that I haven't questioned some of the things they have said.

On the other hand it is like making a cake. We need to take different ingredients to make the whole.

The whole learning journey is an individual thing. Since I have started on this course I have had many things happen that certainly tell me that I am on the right road.

Being that we are human we want everything now!! We have little patience.
I believe as we go along more and more pieces will fall into place.

People seem to be disappointed that nothing bad has happened!

Let's be thankful that it hasn't.

[SoldierOfTruth808]

I didnt read any of the responses I just came out with my reply on this one, so if I repeat anything that was said.... I dont care... and if there was drama that im cutting into by writing this.... I dont care.

I think that weve already been told what we need to know. The saying "Beating a dead horse" comes to mind. Sitting on a computer and posting up the same themes but in different ways, and debating things that are by nature debatable due to the fact that we just dont know whats going to happen yet, is ridiculous. I think that most people realize that. If living day to day, for the moment, is what we have to do, sitting on this forum and dwelling on predictions that we have heard enough times already is counter productive. I think and would hope, that people are in action now instead of trying to comb this forum for information that no one has. Even the updates on camelot are coming out something like this "Somethings going to happen, oh yes it will happen, but later."

So you watch this thing, and someone tells you the truth... someone actually knows exactly minute by minute whats going to happen, how, and by who.... Do you believe them? I doubt most of you would, cause the truth they are telling you is not your self-truth and you still wouldnt be able to wrap your brain around it until you experience something of it.... Now that youve spent all of your time on this forum instead of trying to prepare yourself, what do you do now? Before you can raise crops, youre going to need the land and the resources, not just a book on how to grow them or a farmer standing next to you telling you how.

Thus far....and im speaking for myself... the information that I NEEDED to know, the things that NEEDED to be brought to my attention, came to my attention. The universe put it there, and I didnt even seek it out. I bet a lot of others have the same experience. When the time comes, your number will be called and the information that is vital to you will appear. We are all on this forum, meeting like this because its in our consciousness to be. If the law of attraction speaks true, and if we all have a purpose in these coming events... then we will be called whether we are ready or not.

Now here I go back into the shadows to join the rest of the lurkers who only come on this site once in a while to see if anything groundbreaking has come up.

Peace,
Roland K

Oh and as far as the PTB.... a great way to keep yourself monitored is to consistantly be in the same place all the time... Enjoy!

[Humble Janitor]

I'll be honest here, whenever I see a poster with the word "truth" in their username, I get the vibe that they do not know what truth is or how to find it.

No offense meant. No one is perfect, whether it be me or you.

[SoldierOfTruth808]

Seriously? Thats all you took from what I posted? All you saw was my name. Here let me put your eyes where they should be.

Sitting on a computer and posting up the same themes but in different ways, and debating things that are by nature debatable due to the fact that we just dont know whats going to happen yet, is ridiculous. I think that most people realize that. If living day to day, for the moment, is what we have to do, sitting on this forum and dwelling on predictions that we have heard enough times already is counter productive. I think and would hope, that people are in action now instead of trying to comb this forum for information that no one has.

When the time comes, your number will be called and the information that is vital to you will appear.

If the law of attraction speaks true, and if we all have a purpose in these coming events... then we will be called whether we are ready or not.

Look I even bolded out some key statements for you so you dont have to really read it! Kinda like how I dont think you really read it to begin with.

As for my name.... It doesnt imply that I know the truth, it means that I am willing to FIGHT for and DEFEND it. I have no inhibitions about that fact, and I will proclaim it from a fu@king mountain top.... That is MY self truth.

No one is perfect, whether it be me or you.

Definetly.... I made mention of it and admitted it in my post... and you showed an example of it in yours.

Peace out,
Roland K

[Sherab]

Originally Posted by gwangsun

I noticed over the past couple of days less and less posting and people logged into Project Avalon forums. What could be causing this?

I have noticed though alot of threads forecasting possible events that lately have not been turning out. I figure it could be one of two possibilities

1. Things are just not happening for various reasons we don't know.
or
2. The PTB are monitoring whats being spoken about on the net and are making sure events are not easily predicted and are purposely manipulating things so that those who are trying to foretell lose credibility.

What do you think?

It's because this forum is impotent and offers no solutions to anything, not to mention that 3/4 of what is posted here s fear mongering, rumor-mill nonsense.