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Theres no going back though so, once you are certain. Order these 2 books. They are probably the most detailed source available in print on Earth at this time dealing with this subject. I would say "Trust Me on this" but you don't know me so you will have to listen to your intuition and make a decision. Theres no denying the controvertial nature of much of this but for super-detailed information (you wont believe how detailed) and also contact and spiritual techniques nothing else even comes. Universally Yours, Luminari ![]() http://www.amazon.com/Voyagers-Sleep...4940123&sr=1-1 ![]() http://www.amazon.com/Voyagers-II-Se...4940123&sr=1-2
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Just found this... Also I wrote to Mr Cohen about what he had said...
His Reply here "France is close to disclosing, sadly it didn’t happen when I said it would...but I am sure it will and it is as much about our efforts to publicise it. GEIPAN has pretty much concluded that some UFOs are of extraterrestrial ...so its matter of when they have finally come out with it." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6VUgWqIxzA http://www.geocities.com/changethewo...etheworld1.htm viking Last edited by viking; 06-13-2009 at 01:29 PM. |
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I can't believe I sat here readding all these comments all week to find out if it really happened.
I just watched a video of WWII and they had the "german flying UFO's" scaring people...............maybe it's all bluebeam I know we are not alone................I have personally seen an alien in my bedroom - Only once - and it wasn't my husband......... the thought that keeps running in my head is the question "Is the future our past" |
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Disclosure would've been good timing for this!.................
ESA pavilion "L’Europe de l’Espace, Space for Earth" at the 48th Paris Air Show 10 June 2009 The 48th International Paris Air Show will take place from 15 to 21 June at Le Bourget. The ESA Pavilion "L’Europe de l’Espace, Space for Earth" will be located in its usual place between the full scale models of the Ariane 1 and Ariane 5 launchers. This year the theme of the pavilion is “Space, a key asset for Europe to face global challenges”. “This choice”, explains Fernando Doblas, Head of the ESA Communication Department, “aims to highlight the multiple roles of space: space as an enabling tool for Europe to take on the challenges facing humankind; space as a sector generating new technologies and contributing to a knowledge-based society; space for European growth and employment. Space is also a font of education, innovation and inspiration. A particular accent is given to astronomy and planetary missions in order to celebrate the International Year of Astronomy that aims to stimulate worldwide interest, especially among young people”. The exhibition is a journey from the boundaries of the Universe to the core of the Earth. The visit starts with an impressive image from the Hubble Space Telescope showing new born stars. This area, entitled “Space to Discover”, gives an overview of past, current and future ESA missions studying the Universe in different wavelengths, with a focus on the two cosmic explorers, Herschel and Planck, recently launched to study the origin and evolution of the Cosmos. From the farthest stars we arrive in the Solar System. Images, videos and interactive “magic books” allow visitors to have a better understanding of Europe’s contribution in the exploration of Mars, Venus, Titan, Saturn’s largest moon, and comets. A special emphasis is given to BepiColombo and ExoMars, planned to be launched in 2013 and 2016. BepiColombo will explore Mercury to find out how planets close to stars form; and ExoMars will be ESA’s first mission to land a rover on Mars to search for signs of present, or past, life. For the rest of the article............. http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMFKJQORVF_index_0.html |
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Doh! duplicate
Last edited by Dantheman62; 06-14-2009 at 01:43 AM. |
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Much better the second time
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I hope that 'disclosure' will not present an ugly situation as a pretty picture. On the other hand...any 'disclosure' would probably be a step in the right direction. 'Unofficial disclosure' and public speculation could begin to uncover the real truth...to the extent that 'official disclosure' would become necessary as a cover-up or a whitewash...to conceal the truth of the matter...and establish a lie in the public consciousness. Just listen to me. I won't be happy...no matter what they do!
The government and military officials are probably scared stiff of the aliens...and us! Seriously. Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 06-09-2009 at 08:14 PM. |
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"aliens" are nothing more than humans with access to the fabric of time and space and an understanding of the secrets through the ages.
at one point there was a responsible benevolent force at the reigns. unfortunately at some point this changed. now enough has been altered in an attempt to garner control that the cycle has been interrupted. we are at the final moments of the existence of this manufactured reality; the breaking point. those with a negligent and imprecise understanding of these processes will be forced to concede to ... something. or there are beings in the kuiper belt playing a game with us. they just like to tease us with crop circles, floating flashlights and sending rc devices into our oceans and skies. who the F knows. EDIT: just a disclaimer. this post is based on nothing but thoughts in my head. Last edited by sno dome; 06-09-2009 at 08:40 PM. |
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Hi NorthernSantuary,
This guy has been saying a lot lately. Today is Tuesday. If and only if France delivers the goods, I will start to pay a little more atention to this guy. If not, I will remember with all good consideration Blossom Goodchild. And we all know where she holds strong these days... Best regards, Steve Quote:
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Alternate timelines, altered timelines, parallel universes, time travel...all sounds like mumbo jumbo to me. I guess I'm just old fashioned. Viewing past events as holograms may be possible...if all of that information was stored in a Grey Supercomputer. Viewing future events as holographic extrapolations may be possible with scenario modeling programs in a Grey Supercomputer. To me...absolute foreknowledge and foreward time travel seems unlikely...unless the events have already occurred...and we are experiencing a re-run.
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Lets hope theres some truth to this and Sarkozy leads the world into the 21st century with integrity.
I await further news on this. |
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I don't know if this adds credibility, here's some other sites carrying the story:
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/7034/56 and this one: http://www.doomdaily.com/2009/we-are...ials-on-earth/ |
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Ultimately it's from the same source... another source anyone? viking |
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Hi NorthernSanctuary,
A site called Doom Daily sounds like a winner. What were you doing there?Best regards, Steve Quote:
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So, it didn't happen did it?
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Northern Sanctuary,
There is nothing buzzing in the media here, France. EVEN in the off beat media, or less controlled. Not sure if Sarkozy is the person to do the do. He is way off line, a real control master.???? Obviously it would be good, but not sure the French Gov. is ready for that side of things. |
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Here's a related article from an EU website on an initiative to to push for disclosure:
http://www.federation-airplane.eu/si...php?newsid=156 YOU CAN…, WE DO That operation is the first of a serie proposing to induce a rational reaction on behalf of the French government and indirectly on behalf of all the governments of the World regarding the demonstrations of unknown machines currently moving or hovering in our environment, for more than sixty years. That operation proposes to question directly the President of the French Republic, in a significant manner, in order to get satisfactory answers to several essential questions. The operation begins on June 2 until July 14, 2009 (Symbolic date of the Storming of the Bastille in the French History). Aims and reasoning: There are enough opportunities to refer to the duty of the French Nation regarding the United Nation decision N° 33/426 of the 1978-79 session, regarding the investigation of the UFOs, whose N°2 point implies a reporting to the Secretary-general of UN concerning, the interpretation of the results of research which was undertaken regarding the extraterrestrial life and the UFOs. That decision N° 33/426 suggest to France to have a clear position by setting up a group of investigation complementary to the existing GEIPAN. It might be independent and have for task to carry out the interpretation of the collected data and to validate in an open and final way the extraterrestrial origin of some sightings. The right to the truth is a basic right confirmed in the Report of the Council to the Human Rights at the United Nations in 2007 at Geneva. It's a collective right impacting the Society and for which the States must guarantee to their people its full and effective enjoyment. The questions rising from the UN decision and the Council to the Human Rights refer to the multiple declassifications and openings which already took place regarding the UFOs cases and which underline the implications of the institutions of Information and National Defense of many Nations, since decades. Those interrogations claim on behalf of the French Government, a legitimate answer to the Society on the scientific, political and military level. The message to the President SARKOZY emphasizes that France must stated obviously as reference for the international opinions, reaching a position of federator on a subject which will become a major concern in a close future, with or without the support of the French Nation. Those interrogations call upon the implementation of foreign and “exoterrestre” politics adapted to the new understanding of our situation. In other words, a politics consulting opening the way for the less advanced nations, such as in another field, the human rights did since 1789. |
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Any news anyone??
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Update ...
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page6936937.php UFO disclosure: What went wrong in France? Opinion piece by Michael Cohen m.cohen@allnewsweb.com Last week UFO enthusiasts worldwide waited with baited breath for France to announce the words ‘We are not alone’. The end of the week came and no such declaration was made. Many were disappointed, myself not in the least. Frankly I was rather devastated. There was a real chance that disclosure could have occurred last week, so what went wrong? The reality is that GEIPAN, an official semi-government organization set up specifically to investigate the UFO phenomenon has enough evidence times ten to confirm that extraterrestrials are visiting our planet. A number of researchers within the group are keen to get the word out and they have backers in the wider CNES (Frances equivalent of NASA) structure within which they operate. My own belief is that the US isn’t quite as worried as people think about the prospect of France disclosing. I also do not subscribe to the more highly conspiratorial ideas regarding a world-wide cover-up that one often hears from UFO buffs. I do believe there are very good reasons why today’s power elite might not like disclosure. An open ET presence would have a massive and irreversible effect on current power structures on our planet. All that said, an announcement by France simply stating that they have concrete evidence that some UFOs are of ET origin is a far cry from Barack Obama standing next to an alien at a news conference on the White House lawn. It might also be great way to ease the world into any eventual reality: the future cannot be pushed off indefinitely. The French political establishment is fairly apathetic to disclosure but by no means opposed to it. The current research Minister, Valerie Pecresse is regarded as a reformer and open-minded. The ingredients for disclosure are there. All it would take is those in GEIPAN (who have the evidence) and other supporters within various relevant departments presenting the idea to the minister and convincing her that disclosure would result in positive publicity. All very doable. A very different situation indeed from the US or for that matter my native Australia where a culture of secrecy is enshrined in any matters seen as relating to security. So why didn’t it happen? I cannot count the emails I have received criticising myself for reporting an upcoming event that clearly was not in the finality a certainty.Many thought I should have only reported this news if I was utterly and certifiably sure that it would occur. It is this very behaviour that keeps us waiting for disclosure to happen. The employees of GEIPAN are scientists and by very nature highly tentative and cautious. Every day is a better day than today to disclose. It’s always going to happen next week. 'We just need a little more evidence and we need to finalise this or that detail’. Last week was such a week. It should have occurred, it was planned, but 'perhaps now might not be the optimum time’. I was accused of looking for publicity with my story. Scientists don’t really like publicity. Scientists also love knowing things others don’t know about. The day disclosure of an alien presence happens is the day it all stops being their baby. Within a week no one will be interested in an obscure French researcher’s opinion on aliens, it will be Britney Spears and Angelina Jolie who will be called upon for words of wisdom regarding ETs. Nonetheless disclosure should happen. The cover-up is in our minds. A product of scientific caution prevailing over what might be the biggest news item of all. We need to do our bit to convince those that have the information that it is worth putting out today. There are no MIBs stopping them. Most of all we need to make sure that those with the proof understand that even in our initial excitement, we won’t forget that it was they who made disclosure possible. I apologise if I upset people over last week but I can’t honestly say that I regret what I did. Disclosure in France and a number of other countries is something that is only a heartbeat away. At least, as a result of what I did GEIPAN received a few more emails than usual, letting them know that some of us care for what they do. viking |
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Admirable warriors for truth pushing for disclosure have not just resistance from world governments, corporations and organised religion to deal with...
Its the Interior government and the Zeta that will be most strongly opposed. At least we have Robbie Williams on our side ![]() The drooling slave masses are actually more likely to listen to a 'celebrity' sad isn't it. Maybe Hannah Montana could prepare a statement for congress.
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