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[orthodoxymoron]

Is it really just Earth humans who need to learn to play nicely? Could it be that the whole universe is a war-zone? Or have the warring factions been isolated to this solar-system? Are the reptilians and greys really the nice beings of the universe? Or are the reptilians, greys, and humans the problem-children of the universe? Are the reptilians the current Masters of the Universe? Are the humans currently rebelling against their Gods? Is Earth a Planet in Rebellion? Is the latest version of the New World Order an attempt to crack-down on the uppity humans? Are obedient slaves considered to be peaceful? Are slaves who are struggling to gain their freedom considered to be aggressive and violent? Is a peaceful civilization defined as a submissive civilization? If humans are submissive to reptilians and greys...are they then considered to be peaceful? Was 9/11 a whip across the back of the 'free' United States? If the U.S. goes down...will there be any chance of freedom...anywhere in the world? Or anywhere in the universe?

It's all in the details, definitions, and biases...isn't it? Ask any attorney. Lucifer...in addition to being a musician...you're a theologian and attorney as well...aren't you? You must be the world's leading authority on the Holy Bible and the U.S. Constitution...aren't you? The words of Christ combined with the Constitution...and applied throughout the world...would mean the end of reptilian-rule...wouldn't it? You know this better than anyone...don't you? Are there worse beings than you...Lucifer...in this big, bad universe? Are you our worst-enemy and best-buddy...simultaneously? I've been treating you that way...haven't I? Are the Deep Underground Military Bases and the Secret Space Program for the benefit of the human race...or for the benefit of the reptilian and grey races? Or could these things be for our mutual benefit? If the Solar System was based upon the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...would Orion and Draco really try to crack-down? Would the Empire Strike Back? Who the hell knows? The possibilities are endless.

What if this universe is just a marble...which a couple of kids are playing with...just like in the movie? I'm gonna smoke another joint.

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

The hive mind is a lower state of consciousness that evolved way back when the universe was at a lower state of evolution than it is now. The concept of collective manifestation of the world we live on is not the hive mind. The hive concept is where the few direct the many in an organized socialist consciousness where the individuals act like individual aspects of the whole.

Collective consciousness is a law of the universe that can not be escaped. We do not need to have a goal of collective consciousness, we are already doing it. Most are just doing according to someone elses made up story instead of their own. This is what is changing. The illusion that the story is real is breaking down in the majority of the people on the planet. A critical number of people are beginning to say no to the false core beliefs that where taught to them from young ages. These are being purged simply by the evolution of the consciousness of the entire solar system and perhaps even the entire universe.

Because of this the minds of the many are being naturally freed and are beginning to form new understandings of the nature of the way that things work in the world. It is the job of all of us who know what our civilization is potentially capable of to help these people to understand what it is important to focus on and what is not important to focus on.

The Earth is not going to vomit the human race off of it. Earth changes will be localized and effect pockets of civilization where most of the people are refusing to allow the evolution of consciousness to change them. These things may not even kill people, however sometimes a little chaos is all it takes to get people to let go of ideas that they have become comfortable with. Not human induced illuminati chaos, natural event chaos.

So...you wouldn't have a problem with the human race becoming truly Christ-like...and basing globalism on Constitutional Responsible Freedom...with Earth being governed exclusively by human beings...with no non-human interference...benevolent or malevolent? Or would this provoke natural event chaos...provoked by HAARP perhaps? Or maybe nukes detonated under the polar icecaps and major faultlines? Would we call this an 'Act of God'?

By the way...here is some more Illuminati propaganda from FOX...which couldn't possibly be true or predictive. I'm tending to think that the Illuminati are very frightened right now. I don't think they know what to do. They realize that they are in the crosshairs too. They realize that they have been deceived and double-crossed. Just speculation. Lucifer...is that you at 8:05? What did it feel like when the planes hit the towers? Did you hear the screams? Did the computer which was used to remotely control the planes...also manage the controlled-demolitions? Come-on! Talk to me Lucifer! I am not trying to be triumphalistic. I just want you to retire...and turn Earth (if not the Solar System) over to Constitutional Responsible Freedom...with no Gods whatsoever. The God-concept does not work. Spirituality? Yes. Gods? No. Do the Earth Changes orders still stand? The terrorism needs to cease...permanently. Lucifer...you can make it happen. [All of the above is highly speculative in nature...and not based upon any inside information. It seems possible...and even probable to me...at this time...based upon a wide variety of sources and the consideration of a wide variety of possibilities. Take this post seriously...but not too seriously.]

[tone3jaguar]

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

So...you wouldn't have a problem with the human race becoming truly Christ-like...and basing globalism on Constitutional Responsible Freedom...with Earth being governed exclusively by human beings...with no non-human interference...benevolent or malevolent?

Of course not, this is the paradigm of an advanced civilization.

Or would this provoke natural event chaos...provoked by HAARP perhaps? Or maybe nukes detonated under the polar icecaps and major faultlines? Would we call this an 'Act of God'?

The Earth is a super intelligent being. She wants to resonate at the highest frequency possible and in order to do this the frequency has to be evenly distributed across her surface. Destructive earth changes are sometimes the consciousness of the planet in the process of evening out the frequencies generated by the people on the surface.

And no, I am not speaking of artificially induced earth changes being part of this process. The illuminati think that they are conduits for universal Karma and that they are helping things by creating events like large scale wars to accomplish this reorganization out of chaos. What they do not realize is that they are creating massive quantities of bad karma for themselves and are in the process of living out that karma.

These Earth changes can come in many forms. They could be heat waves, super cold weather, hurricanes, tornadoes, huge hail storms like the one in New Jersey a few months back, or even a small localized severe thunderstorm. What ever it takes to slap the sheeple awake.

[eleni]

Question here: Does one think the *Illuminati* are that dumb about karma or are they controlled by lower astral entities and just don't care?
Or are the Illuminati we speak of not the real Illuminati- there are numerous reasons why I say this.

[tone3jaguar]

They are not dumb intelligence wise or else they would not have been able to accomplish what they have. However, they do actually believe that they are the conduits for the universes consciousness of distruction and chaos. Because of this the most devout of their religion actually think that the decisions they make are the will of the creator. Due to this they have no concept of the perception of Karma. They think that what ever their twisted minds and extra dimensional cohorts come up with is divine will. Therefore, they actually believe that none of it will ever come back on them.

In the same way that they have imposed their will on us and tricked us into believing false truths, the exact same thing has been done to them from these negatively polarized parallel dimensions. Many of them are waking up to the fact that they have been spiritually lied to and manipulated and tricked by the beings they aligned themselves with and are divorcing themselves from it. Some of them where born into it and never had much of a choice after they where incarnated. We may not get news reports about it, but there is a mass exodus from groups like this happening all of the world right now.

Some of them are so deep into it and actually think that because once upon a time their great great great great great grand daddy was the ruler of BFE (butt f--king egypt) that this somehow means that they are the spawn of the gods of distruction, and they may go on believing this until there is nothing left of them.

[eleni]

I can agree that some think they are the descendants of so and so - but in my experience with the so called Illume families- they are not as *knowledgeable* about interdimensional aspects as we give them credit for- as far as Illumes I speak of the Rothschild clan (French faction) and certain bloodlines of the Black Nobility.

This is why I say the real Illuminati are not who we think they are. I believe they are not the one's in control (human wise) even though their actions are evil, service to self centered etc;

That's not to say they aren't in control of media, banking, creating war, unleashing disease etc;

Agree- they have no concept of karma, not the one's I know anyhow- they are far from *Illumed*.

It's my belief to so called 13 families of the Illuminati are not the real Illuminati at all. The real one's IMO have not been revealed (human- am not speaking of reptilians and so on).

[mntruthseeker]

This has been a very interesting post. I much rather continue along believing in that there are both good and bad.

I am tired of the scare tatics and from some people that I have learn to respect very well have confirmed the same information that I seen here

I will certaintly use Archangel Michael to protect me from evil as that is his job. Ever since I was little bad and good have been around so why should this be any different?

Thats ok, what do we have to lose? I rather be happy than afraid.

Ever since I pray to Jesus every night, I have not been bothered. I know this is true.

[eleni]

There is truth to like attracts like and matches the vibration (why my children and I have been abducted by greys- I don't know but I don't believe in the Casseiopeans who state that those in STS get abducted) anyhow my belief is me must be very careful what we ask for and be specific.