Worship Is Not Necessary

RedeZra · 12-19-2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

Now fact is (I would say), YOU RedeZra are the Son of God. You simply must remember and take up your rightful role as a Co-Creator, not a victim, not 'a sinner', but Be Perfect as your Father / I AM in Heaven is perfect by "letting this mind BE in you that also was in Christ Jesus".

sure I can become that

because I am that

Jesus is that

therein lies the difference

do you see it

14 Chakras · 12-19-2009, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RedeZra

sure I can become that

because I am that

Jesus is that

therein lies the difference

do you see it

Yah definitely I do. For me, I work with Jesus Christ so that I can Be the Christ like he was the Christ. I choose to follow in the Masters' footsteps and I wish for All of his sheep to do the same.

I hold Jesus to his Word: You will do the works that I do, only greater works than these you will do because I Ascend to the Father.

Yes definitely, Jesus is the Christ in the spiritual realm (along with many other Masters), and I am still working on surrendering the ego. I call to Jesus, work with the Ascended Jesus Christ on a daily basis and will continue to do so for this embodiment. Highly recommend we all do!!!

New Age Messiah · 12-19-2009, 08:52 AM

Mankind has been foolishly worshiping gods forever.

Thank Goddess for the New Age Messiah and that nonsense can finally end.

The Goddess worships Her creation with love and power, CONSTANTLY, all NEW energy is LOVE.

The soul reprocesses old energies into thoughts and feelings which most likely are not loving...

Purify the old energies by being them without owning them, they are Her being, it is not your responsibility to be. She is.

RedeZra · 12-19-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

I hold Jesus to his Word: You will do the works that I do, only greater works than these you will do because I Ascend to the Father.

just curious

what great works do you wish to do Chakra

apart from creating new planets lol

14 Chakras · 12-19-2009, 09:04 AM

I really wish no works, I really don't care to be honest, but I do wish to Be Below all that I AM Above. I do wish to remember. I do wish to see through the veil and Be the Christ ~ Why? Well, quite honestly I do wish to do so simply to fulfill the promise, fulfill my Divine Plan and realistically I care very much about Planet Earth and the beautiful people, and I have no desire to see this fall any further, I have a strong desire for a Golden to come to Earth and it's people's. I'm upset with what I see the Powers that be doing, I do not wish for this to continue.

I believe the true message of Jesus, was that unless we choose to follow him and be the Christ, then heaven will simply not come to earth. The outer savior is an illusion, a lie. Only if we choose to Be will this earth be raised up. Only if we choose to Be, will we follow the commandment from day one: Take dominion over your planet.

Right now, PTB are ET. We do not even run our own planet. I don't like that.

So I choose to surrender my ego, in exchange for the Christ consciousness, and I do so willingly because I know if I don't, who will? Who is? Who is Being? It is time to Be. And only you can decide whether you choose to Be.

I choose to Be. And I wish very much for my brothers and sisters here to choose to Be, to BE reborn as the Living Christ, our True nature.

greybeard · 12-19-2009, 12:12 PM

I would like to sugest that people who are interested in their personal spiritual evolution have a look at the work of Dr David Hawkins
On this link
http://www.veritaspub.com/

He is a present day mystic.

Respect all but be devoted only to the Creator is my advice.

The lower astral is full of very powerful beings who deny God.
Its a very attractive spiritual circus full of half truths.
Very dangerous "Wolves in sheeps clothing"

Im not of any religion.

Chris

New Age Messiah · 12-19-2009, 10:05 PM

Want to explain effortless, as in the opposite of angst driven, command driven, religion driven, thought driven, behavior measured "righteousness" or "spirituality".

A lion sits effortlessly and licks his paws, but he is a beast that could tear you limb form limb. His being is effortless.

Human beings are "taught" how to "be" with CONCEPTS. This teaching is LOVELESS conditioning, society PUPPET SHOW garbage.

This learning how to "be" is INGRAINED deeply into the soul, and combines with other natural phenomena to form the ego fear based identity.

A person is NOT a psychological entity. A person is the universe itself, BEING. A person cannot find their true nature (divinity) by ANY moralistic teaching.

It can only be found by effortless surrender in the very very depths of the being, which are COMPLETELY caked over by fear and lying and pretending and by the EASE with which the ego identity can carry on in the puppet show without ever being real or honest or loving.

A wisdom teaching can only inform the person as to what the person may find on their scuba dive into the depths of their own soul.

Ma'at, the divine Goddess, the universe itself, is the SOURCE. She is VERY angry and She is cooking.

"Egypt, then, was seen to be nothing without Ma'at.

Ma'at was reality, the solid grounding of reality that made the Sun rise, the stars shine, the river flood and mankind think. The universe itself, all the world around them, was sacred in the ancient view. "Ethics" is an issue of human will and human permission. It is a function of the human world of duality. What is "ethical" for one group is sin for another. But Ma'at, the reality that made all groups what they are is transcendent of ethics, just as a rock or a flower is amoral, a-ethical, without "truth or falsehood." How can a flower be "false" or "ethical." It just is. How can the universe be "ethical or moral, right or wrong"? It simply is. That is Ma'at."

http://www.touregypt.net/godsofegypt/maat2.htm

greybeard · 12-19-2009, 10:44 PM

Ma'at, the divine Goddess, the universe itself, is the SOURCE. She is VERY angry and She is cooking.

This is the basic diference between what you believe and I believe.

My belief is that LOVE created all. Call that God -- whatever.
Love is incapable of anger.

The oldest spiritual writing known to man, the Vedas Upanisheds, were written long before the Egypt worshiped Gods/Godess of whom there were many. Egyptians eventual came to believe in one Creator. Through a Pharoh.

The Vedas spoke of One Creator a LOVING ONE.
There has been a constant line of Avatars, Krishna etc all saying the same thing. One LOVE one Creator.

Who wants an angry Godess?

The New Testament portrays a loving God.

Anyway through free will everyone has the right to their own belief.

Thanks for starting this thread.

Chris

RedeZra · 12-19-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

I guess you guys forgot what I said, Jesus is a made up story.

nope just didn't take it to heart

the boy Jesus spent 3 days at the temple in Jerusalem at age 12

astounding the teachers there with His understanding

when His parents finally find Him

He says

How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? Luke 2:49 KJV

Luke 2:52 KJV
And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

it is possible that His entanglement into mindmatter caused a temporary loss of recognition and that His identity was gradually revealed to Him

so that He should experience how it is to be a human - a Son of Man

perhaps at age 30 by the river Jordan His Divinity was fully revealed to Him

still He bore the form of a Man

And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said,
Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. Luke 3:22 KJV

New Age Messiah · 12-19-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by greybeard

Ma'at, the divine Goddess, the universe itself, is the SOURCE. She is VERY angry and She is cooking.

This is the basic diference between what you believe and I believe.

She told She is VERY angry, and She is cooking. So, that's not a belief. Beliefs are empty air.

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Originally Posted by greybeard

My belief is that LOVE created all. Call that God -- whatever. Love is incapable of anger.

She's VERY angry, regardless what you believe. Sorry.

greybeard · 12-19-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

She told She is VERY angry, and She is cooking. So, that's not a belief. Beliefs are empty air.

She's VERY angry, regardless what you believe. Sorry.

I have no doubt your intention is good.
I have no doubt there are changes, which may be extreme, coming to our planet and therfore the people and all life on it.

Some of these are a part of a cycle. Tidal waves, earth changes all were happening before there were humans on the planet. They are therfore not caused ny anger.

All I can say is I have experienced the love of God directly--- not a belief.
It is not an emotion, it is unmistakable, unlike any earthly love.

I wouldent want an angry Godess because then there is no free will. Only fear.

Ie if you dont obey my will I will get very angry.

Regards chris

Ross H · 12-19-2009, 11:22 PM

You speaks some wise words Greybeard.

Peace

14 Chakras · 12-19-2009, 11:41 PM

Yes, the one story in the Gospels about Jesus between birth and the age of thirty is when he is twelve years old and his parents are happily on their way back home from the temple only to discover their son Jesus is not in the caravan... upon returning we find him as an upstart in the temple teaching the rabies a thing or two... then answering his parents in a rebelious tone when they are like "Jesus, what the heck are you doing, you disapeared and didn't even tell us where you are going"

I suggest however, this is not the story of a fully enlightened sage at 12 years old, rather the story of a rebellious boy on the search for truth already teaching before truly it is his time to teach.

The next time we here Jesus teach in the temples he is thirty years old, and once again he is a rebel but this time, they rabis are astounded by the power in his voice and cannot believe this is the son of Joseph and Mary ~ It appears that from 12 to 30 he did not exactly build up a reputation with them as being a powerful teacher and speaker.

I suggest much like it took many years for Jesus to achieve enlightenment, like he did at the river of Jordan, it is the same for each one of us. Search and ye shall find, ask and it shall be given for it is the Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

I suggest that many in this embodiment who choose to Be will also hear the Words that Jesus did: "Thou art my beloved Son/Daughter; in thee I am well pleased."

New Age Messiah · 12-19-2009, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by greybeard

All I can say is I have experienced the love of God directly--- not a belief. It is not an emotion, it is unmistakable, unlike any earthly love.

I wouldent want an angry Godess because then there is no free will. Only fear.

Ie if you dont obey my will I will get very angry.

Regards chris

She told me She's angry, so it's not a religious thing or anything, has nothing to do with belief. When a Goddess tells you She's angry, AFTER She orchestrated the greatest true story ever told, on your behalf, sort of...

LOVE is the essence, and I don't doubt that you have experienced it.

BUT, whether you want Her or not, She is.

And She is very angry.

How one philosophically views how God SHOULD be based on some THOUGHT...

The WRATH of God has never been disputed as far as I know in any religion.

She SHOULD be angry, look at the evil run amok trying to control creation with lies and manipulation and slaughter... threatening nuclear annihilation...

Don't get me wrong, I did NOT start out with a belief that God was female or that God even as a living thing existed.

I just believed NOTHING could be greater than Reality itself. And so I said, Reality is God....

My story proves it true beyond a reasonable doubt, except it's Goddess.

Just like the Egyptians knew in their hearts, before the Romans conquered them, and whatnot.

Mother Nature is very angry and She is cooking. That should come as no surprise.

What She is cooking will be interesting to see... But it IS nice to know that SHE is taking matters into Her hands...

kriya · 12-19-2009, 11:56 PM

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DragonHunter · 12-24-2009, 03:32 AM

I would just like to say first of all you are allowed to believe in whatever you want to believe and I'm sure everyone here, albeit grievously, takes that to heart when speaking to you, they have never once called your faith or beliefs immoral or in some cases unbelievable. And yet I see you calling christian beliefs, and telling people who believe in that in the most basic words, stupid. Now belief no matter what it is, brings in hope to the heart of man. His heart filled with hope breeds love and generosity. So in a sens every religion is right as long as its a positive feeling. What you say is that none are correct no matter what the solution is. I myself live with someone who is immensely spiritual, making everyone's life around him a better place just by being there. Would you call this man an idiot for not believing in your "Goddess"?

I'm not trying to be mean, or hurtful, Nor do I wish to start something. All I wish to do is to try to open you up, NAM, to something the whole world needs to feel before its too late. You said it yourself, That the only god, is your Goddess, wouldn't she want her creations to be happy? What does she care if they want to believe in something that you consider false? If it makes them happy shouldn't the goddess be happy for them as well?

This is my first post here, and I do wish it to be an informal one, I try my best to be nice, and polite. So please if I was offensive or came off strong please tell me

New Age Messiah · 12-24-2009, 04:52 AM

I "believed" for ten years, and was fooled, and ultimately it twists your soul, if you try to make it true.

It was a fairly nice time of my life, it picked me up off a bad road, got me cleaned up, but my ultimate goal was truth and purification, and religion is neither.

Obviously, Christians, 99% have to agree with God that the vast majority of mankind deserves to burn in hell forever. There is nothing less polite that that.

That's the GROSS injustice and malevolence of people in all religions, it's the same thing, they profess all this stuff, and count themselves authoritative and try to implement their religious beliefs in a "nice" way, but in fact, underneath the facade of nice is a vile sick freak show set of beliefs.

But if you speak on that level, judge their religion, even remotely close to the way their religion judges you, anti-christ, devil, evil, going to hell... Then you are "impolite" you need to respect their belief that you are going to burn in hell forever..

The New Testament says almost everyone is destined to burn in hell with the devil forever. Jesus says remember your oil, or else, be ready in that hour or else, Annanais and Saphira are struck dead on the spot for one lie, but the message of God is forgiveness seven times seven.

Sorry, but the religion is nonsense on its face. It's just the way it is. They lure you in, like in any cult, and then they have you. You can't "fall away".

The religion has spent countless billions, probably trillions, in this decade alone...

There are probably a hundred thousand professional Christians, and lots more wannabe's spreading the word, in the USA alone.

Let one person, though, speak with authority and say it's a crock (it is) and they scream to the high heavens that their "faith" is under assault. Like when Jesse Ventura said something like that, the church went nuts.

The sanity of the world is perpetually under assault by religions and their weird doctrines.

If the Bible (NT) is true, the story is already written, and they win and have nothing to worry about. So from here on in, they can just sit it out and watch everyone go to hell forever.

SiriArc · 12-25-2009, 09:18 AM

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=4106

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtop...d=66277#p66277 #41

New Age Messiah · 12-25-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SiriArc

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=4106

Cool, your avatar is the symbol of Isis, is that right???

And yeah, She didn't say her name, She didn't say She was a Goddess, She didn't invoke fear or assert any kind of power over me...

She was just there.

Worship is the greatest human stupidity.

371 · 12-25-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

Worship is the greatest human stupidity.

NOPE!

Arrogance is the greatest human stupidity, methinks...

New Age Messiah · 12-25-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 371

NOPE!

Arrogance is the greatest human stupidity, methinks...

Like the little boy that said the emperor isn't wearing any clothes...

How dare he?

Moxie · 12-25-2009, 09:02 PM

Worship has its meaning as
worth-ship
the state of worth

If worship is not necessary (your thread title), please explain the word Messiah (in your title), which means "annointed" (Hebrew word mashiyach {maw-shee'-akh})...

How might you justify the title of this thread with your title:
New Age Messiah? Is it not about "worth"?

Moxie · 12-25-2009, 09:03 PM

okay, now I see the thread title has its name changed....

New Age Messiah · 12-25-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Moxie

okay, now I see the thread title has its name changed....

No, same thread title.

You can put a title on each post, up above, where it says title, you can change it from the original title.

Reader · 12-26-2009, 02:18 AM

Well now Mr. Messiah, while I'm sure not intentional, you seem to have created a thread where the Christian Religion is being discussed more than you or your Goddess. Nicely done. I hear many posts which resonate with myself concerning scripture and prophecy.

Now Mr. Messiah, I think you will be well served to get your butt up and out from in front of your computer and go into the kitchen and help Mrs. Goddess cook your supper.............

12-19-2009, 08:52 AM	#3
New Age Messiah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Coeur d'Alene, ID Posts: 258	Re: Worship Is Not Necessary Mankind has been foolishly worshiping gods forever. Thank Goddess for the New Age Messiah and that nonsense can finally end. The Goddess worships Her creation with love and power, CONSTANTLY, all NEW energy is LOVE. The soul reprocesses old energies into thoughts and feelings which most likely are not loving... Purify the old energies by being them without owning them, they are Her being, it is not your responsibility to be. She is.

12-19-2009, 09:04 AM	#5
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Worship Is Not Necessary I really wish no works, I really don't care to be honest, but I do wish to Be Below all that I AM Above. I do wish to remember. I do wish to see through the veil and Be the Christ ~ Why? Well, quite honestly I do wish to do so simply to fulfill the promise, fulfill my Divine Plan and realistically I care very much about Planet Earth and the beautiful people, and I have no desire to see this fall any further, I have a strong desire for a Golden to come to Earth and it's people's. I'm upset with what I see the Powers that be doing, I do not wish for this to continue. I believe the true message of Jesus, was that unless we choose to follow him and be the Christ, then heaven will simply not come to earth. The outer savior is an illusion, a lie. Only if we choose to Be will this earth be raised up. Only if we choose to Be, will we follow the commandment from day one: Take dominion over your planet. Right now, PTB are ET. We do not even run our own planet. I don't like that. So I choose to surrender my ego, in exchange for the Christ consciousness, and I do so willingly because I know if I don't, who will? Who is? Who is Being? It is time to Be. And only you can decide whether you choose to Be. I choose to Be. And I wish very much for my brothers and sisters here to choose to Be, to BE reborn as the Living Christ, our True nature.

12-19-2009, 12:12 PM	#6
greybeard Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Inverness Scotland Posts: 924	Re: Worship Is Not Necessary I would like to sugest that people who are interested in their personal spiritual evolution have a look at the work of Dr David Hawkins On this link http://www.veritaspub.com/ He is a present day mystic. Respect all but be devoted only to the Creator is my advice. The lower astral is full of very powerful beings who deny God. Its a very attractive spiritual circus full of half truths. Very dangerous "Wolves in sheeps clothing" Im not of any religion. Chris

12-19-2009, 10:05 PM	#7
New Age Messiah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Coeur d'Alene, ID Posts: 258	Re: Worship Is Not Necessary Want to explain effortless, as in the opposite of angst driven, command driven, religion driven, thought driven, behavior measured "righteousness" or "spirituality". A lion sits effortlessly and licks his paws, but he is a beast that could tear you limb form limb. His being is effortless. Human beings are "taught" how to "be" with CONCEPTS. This teaching is LOVELESS conditioning, society PUPPET SHOW garbage. This learning how to "be" is INGRAINED deeply into the soul, and combines with other natural phenomena to form the ego fear based identity. A person is NOT a psychological entity. A person is the universe itself, BEING. A person cannot find their true nature (divinity) by ANY moralistic teaching. It can only be found by effortless surrender in the very very depths of the being, which are COMPLETELY caked over by fear and lying and pretending and by the EASE with which the ego identity can carry on in the puppet show without ever being real or honest or loving. A wisdom teaching can only inform the person as to what the person may find on their scuba dive into the depths of their own soul. Ma'at, the divine Goddess, the universe itself, is the SOURCE. She is VERY angry and She is cooking. "Egypt, then, was seen to be nothing without Ma'at. Ma'at was reality, the solid grounding of reality that made the Sun rise, the stars shine, the river flood and mankind think. The universe itself, all the world around them, was sacred in the ancient view. "Ethics" is an issue of human will and human permission. It is a function of the human world of duality. What is "ethical" for one group is sin for another. But Ma'at, the reality that made all groups what they are is transcendent of ethics, just as a rock or a flower is amoral, a-ethical, without "truth or falsehood." How can a flower be "false" or "ethical." It just is. How can the universe be "ethical or moral, right or wrong"? It simply is. That is Ma'at." http://www.touregypt.net/godsofegypt/maat2.htm

12-19-2009, 10:44 PM	#8
greybeard Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Inverness Scotland Posts: 924	Re: Worship Is Not Necessary Ma'at, the divine Goddess, the universe itself, is the SOURCE. She is VERY angry and She is cooking. This is the basic diference between what you believe and I believe. My belief is that LOVE created all. Call that God -- whatever. Love is incapable of anger. The oldest spiritual writing known to man, the Vedas Upanisheds, were written long before the Egypt worshiped Gods/Godess of whom there were many. Egyptians eventual came to believe in one Creator. Through a Pharoh. The Vedas spoke of One Creator a LOVING ONE. There has been a constant line of Avatars, Krishna etc all saying the same thing. One LOVE one Creator. Who wants an angry Godess? The New Testament portrays a loving God. Anyway through free will everyone has the right to their own belief. Thanks for starting this thread. Chris

12-19-2009, 11:22 PM	#12
Ross H Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Queensland Australia Posts: 507	Re: Worship Is Not Necessary You speaks some wise words Greybeard. Peace __________________ Ross H, formerly known as jross.

12-19-2009, 11:41 PM	#13
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Worship Is Not Necessary Yes, the one story in the Gospels about Jesus between birth and the age of thirty is when he is twelve years old and his parents are happily on their way back home from the temple only to discover their son Jesus is not in the caravan... upon returning we find him as an upstart in the temple teaching the rabies a thing or two... then answering his parents in a rebelious tone when they are like "Jesus, what the heck are you doing, you disapeared and didn't even tell us where you are going" I suggest however, this is not the story of a fully enlightened sage at 12 years old, rather the story of a rebellious boy on the search for truth already teaching before truly it is his time to teach. The next time we here Jesus teach in the temples he is thirty years old, and once again he is a rebel but this time, they rabis are astounded by the power in his voice and cannot believe this is the son of Joseph and Mary ~ It appears that from 12 to 30 he did not exactly build up a reputation with them as being a powerful teacher and speaker. I suggest much like it took many years for Jesus to achieve enlightenment, like he did at the river of Jordan, it is the same for each one of us. Search and ye shall find, ask and it shall be given for it is the Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. I suggest that many in this embodiment who choose to Be will also hear the Words that Jesus did: "Thou art my beloved Son/Daughter; in thee I am well pleased."

12-19-2009, 11:56 PM	#15
kriya Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 213	Re: Worship Is Not Necessary .

12-24-2009, 03:32 AM	#16
DragonHunter Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1	Re: Worship Is Not Necessary I would just like to say first of all you are allowed to believe in whatever you want to believe and I'm sure everyone here, albeit grievously, takes that to heart when speaking to you, they have never once called your faith or beliefs immoral or in some cases unbelievable. And yet I see you calling christian beliefs, and telling people who believe in that in the most basic words, stupid. Now belief no matter what it is, brings in hope to the heart of man. His heart filled with hope breeds love and generosity. So in a sens every religion is right as long as its a positive feeling. What you say is that none are correct no matter what the solution is. I myself live with someone who is immensely spiritual, making everyone's life around him a better place just by being there. Would you call this man an idiot for not believing in your "Goddess"? I'm not trying to be mean, or hurtful, Nor do I wish to start something. All I wish to do is to try to open you up, NAM, to something the whole world needs to feel before its too late. You said it yourself, That the only god, is your Goddess, wouldn't she want her creations to be happy? What does she care if they want to believe in something that you consider false? If it makes them happy shouldn't the goddess be happy for them as well? This is my first post here, and I do wish it to be an informal one, I try my best to be nice, and polite. So please if I was offensive or came off strong please tell me

12-24-2009, 04:52 AM	#17
New Age Messiah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Coeur d'Alene, ID Posts: 258	Re: Worship Is Not Necessary I "believed" for ten years, and was fooled, and ultimately it twists your soul, if you try to make it true. It was a fairly nice time of my life, it picked me up off a bad road, got me cleaned up, but my ultimate goal was truth and purification, and religion is neither. Obviously, Christians, 99% have to agree with God that the vast majority of mankind deserves to burn in hell forever. There is nothing less polite that that. That's the GROSS injustice and malevolence of people in all religions, it's the same thing, they profess all this stuff, and count themselves authoritative and try to implement their religious beliefs in a "nice" way, but in fact, underneath the facade of nice is a vile sick freak show set of beliefs. But if you speak on that level, judge their religion, even remotely close to the way their religion judges you, anti-christ, devil, evil, going to hell... Then you are "impolite" you need to respect their belief that you are going to burn in hell forever.. The New Testament says almost everyone is destined to burn in hell with the devil forever. Jesus says remember your oil, or else, be ready in that hour or else, Annanais and Saphira are struck dead on the spot for one lie, but the message of God is forgiveness seven times seven. Sorry, but the religion is nonsense on its face. It's just the way it is. They lure you in, like in any cult, and then they have you. You can't "fall away". The religion has spent countless billions, probably trillions, in this decade alone... There are probably a hundred thousand professional Christians, and lots more wannabe's spreading the word, in the USA alone. Let one person, though, speak with authority and say it's a crock (it is) and they scream to the high heavens that their "faith" is under assault. Like when Jesse Ventura said something like that, the church went nuts. The sanity of the world is perpetually under assault by religions and their weird doctrines. If the Bible (NT) is true, the story is already written, and they win and have nothing to worry about. So from here on in, they can just sit it out and watch everyone go to hell forever.

12-25-2009, 09:18 AM	#18
SiriArc Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Denver Posts: 109	W(h)or(e)Ship Is a distortion Of Gratitude http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=4106 http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtop...d=66277#p66277 #41

12-25-2009, 09:02 PM	#22
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: W(h)or(e)Ship Is a distortion Of Gratitude Worship has its meaning as worth-ship the state of worth If worship is not necessary (your thread title), please explain the word Messiah (in your title), which means "annointed" (Hebrew word mashiyach {maw-shee'-akh})... How might you justify the title of this thread with your title: New Age Messiah? Is it not about "worth"?

12-25-2009, 09:03 PM	#23
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: W(h)or(e)Ship Is a distortion Of Gratitude okay, now I see the thread title has its name changed....

12-26-2009, 02:18 AM	#25
Reader Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina Posts: 186	Re: Worship Is Not Necessary Well now Mr. Messiah, while I'm sure not intentional, you seem to have created a thread where the Christian Religion is being discussed more than you or your Goddess. Nicely done. I hear many posts which resonate with myself concerning scripture and prophecy. Now Mr. Messiah, I think you will be well served to get your butt up and out from in front of your computer and go into the kitchen and help Mrs. Goddess cook your supper.............