Abraxas has been enjoined and his group is closed Edited

[THE eXchanger]

so easy to point fingers, and, blame someone else
for spirit invasion/and, spirit attacks

and, yet - there is a law
- the law of attraction
and, one doesn't need to read too far into it

to discover, you are, what it is, YOU ALLOW

suit up ...
protect yourself...
& always, and, in all ways be diligent about it

there are as many timelines, as, there are people

there also is, a collective conciousness,
where everyone, is a piece of that

everything we have ever suggested to anyone,
we do it in a way, it totally protects you,
from all others, including us, by keeping things, in 100% alignment with YOU

we find it quite sad, that after, all the energy,
and, all the sharing, after 1000's of private emails,
that all these, so-called attacked people,
that many of you, do NOT choose to more closely eXamine,
the source of the root, that can block it,
thy_selves ...
yes, learn to know thy_selves

also we are aware of other things,
and, quite frankly, at this juncture,
if more of us, looked at our own roots,
and, built from there, NONE of this would happen

why is it, so many, need others, to answer their own questions ???

these answers, are your answers
~ NOT answers, others are supposed
to find for you, and, just give you the answers

we all need to get with it, and, get with ourselves

KNOW THY_SELF - or, aspects of THY SELVES

after a life, there is a review room,
during life, there should also be a review,
sometimes, when you just do NOT know,
it is time, to remove, the interference of others,
and, sit quiet, with thy_self/selves
and, discover, the 'real' answers

that is, what is called mining for your truth
and, doing it, that way,
is part of 'the responsibility' you have to deal with,
in peeling thru, all the layers of YOU

isn't it time, you all looked to the 'real' cuprit, in any equation ???

which, ironically, is always, and, will always be you,

what saddens us the most, is, that some of you,
actually were trying to hook us, up to some of these
so-called, 'the attack' senarios ~ when, in truth
we have done a lot of work, to help many people
to insure, that, they take back, their own control,
thru harnessing their own force/and, their own power
there are actually some of you,
who have been playing both sides of the table,
and, a round table, goes round, it has NO real sides
right now, my best advise, to anyone,
is this, learn to know thy_self, and, thy_selves

[SteveX]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

Artful digging. impressive.

But I can't see much of anything satisfied by reopening the thread again, read only, or open for discussion. That was never my issue. I wanted to know what grounds founded the actions taken. We still don't know, and the story seems to be taking a little migration. The original announcement mentioned complaints of Sexual harassment. The current announcement accompanying the restoration of the thread, mentions only some posting in the social group as grounds for maintaining the ban, which last I checked, was still gone from view. So we still can't review the basis upon which the witch got himself hunted down and dealt with by the villagers.

And none of which detracts from your artful digging. (can somebody help me put reigns on my eyes? they go where ever they please, with no direction from moi.)

I consider myself an evenhanded grounded player. I can see the present situation, given a little give and take, as satisfactory for both sides of the debate. Having said that I do see your point of view and frankly I’m shocked by some of the posts in this thread. However, I think we’ll just have to accept the judgment of the Mods. I have faith that they banned Abrax for infringement of the rules. He broke the rules of his own volition irrespective to anything said before or after. Yes it’s open to speculation, given the bile in here, of a set up but it’s also possible that someone was harassed. What ever it was the line was stepped over hence the ban.

As for the cotton wool brigade it’s like living in the middle ages. God against the Devil, witches, trolls, gargoyles, spooks and black masses. Complete retrograde hogwash. Not to mention this “psychic attack” malarkey…open to falls claims and totally UN-PROVABLE. Burn the witch, burn the witch he/she gave me headaches, bad dreams, panic visions, he was in my wet dream. That’s what it looks like FFS.

The light, love and harmony, expressed by some, has about as much sincerity as a McDonalds “have a nice day.” How on earth are we going to advance if we don’t take charge of our own actions? How long are we to be victims of our fears, imagined or otherwise? You’ve presented yourselves as villagers at a burning. Naive, scared, fearful, vindictive. The witch wasn’t the problem. The problem is you. The witch could have simply been ignored and by doing so made POWERLESS. Call yourselves Enlightened..........indeed I am.

[Céline]

Originally Posted by SteveX

Burn the witch, burn the witch

Ya i feel the flames...too

Go ahead say it..i asked for it.. i deserve it blah blah blah i really dont care..

i am what i am ...i cant change that

sigh...

Sides..sides sides sides..

Assez...

Like exchanger said.. Pa/Pc is what is important..

[SteveX]

Originally Posted by Céline

i am what i am ...i cant change that

There is nothing to fear... err.... apart from physical things like detranged axe men. eXchager has it pegged

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...&postcount=551

[Céline]

Originally Posted by SteveX

There is nothing to fear... err.... apart from physical things like detranged axe men. eXchager has it pegged

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...&postcount=551

deranged axe men? been there done that..no worries ...i carry a big stick.

and i dont believe i said i was affraid

[SteveX]

Originally Posted by Céline

deranged axe men? been there done that..no worries ...i carry a big stick.

and i dont believe i said i was affraid

You quoted me saying "burn the witch burn the witch" A quote refering to FEAR. Fear within the Village idiots at the burning.

Now... I don't play drama drama. By saying "go ahead call me a witching burning idiot" you got the correct answer. Face your fear because it's within you.

[Stardustaquarion]

Hi Beren

I agree with you, we have the right and the duty to defend ourselves from the attack of others, that is what any honourable soul will do no matter what they believe. Attack is not permited, defense is a right

Free will does not mean free for all, free will does not mean that someone else will come to my house and take what I possess, that is a breach, a violation of my space

Same happens when someone is trying to force an oppinion when it has been told one disagrees repeatedly

Calling names, belliteling people, making a mokery of a person just to get the populace distracted from the errors they are showing in their discourse, speaking gibberish under the pretence of "intelligent discourse" to shut up those that are not "in the know" etc is not free speach is bulliying

Attacking people in other planes does not come under moderator ruling so we are on our own on that one

Healthy boundaries create healthy and healing relationships

Love to all

[bigmo]

Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz

well Bigmo, I understand where he is coming from better than most.

I can tell you this, if I went in to cleanse Abraxa/demon...

he is the one I would want standing beside me for protection, because he understands exactly what I would be dealing with.

there is tons of money following this forum so put the money up and bring us together in a central location.

Give us the recording equipment and I guarantee you would be able to hear the possessor of this man as we rip it out of him.

It is not audible to normal human perceptions but recording equipment will pick it up.

you all want to get freaked out...

what you will all hear is something that makes the scariest movies ever made seem like a nursery rhyme...

Rocky I am pragmatic. I don't believe or disbelieve. But if you tell me there are demons coming to take my soul then I've been put on notice and thank you. But it is going to take a little more than a 'preachers sermon' to move this soul off his consciousness... whatever you perceive it to be.

Some people here talk as if all the participants are children... waiting to be taught; incapable of understanding the 'real world'. It is arrogance.

You and Beren may very well be 'light workers' and if you are my hats off to you. But don't expect me to bow to veiled threats of a boogieman either real or imagined.

Peace

[mntruthseeker]

totally agree Rocky

Beren is deffinately who I would want by my side also


Ellie, you are a special person and I for one am glad you have never been attacked.


Susan says it has happened before on this forum and I have to admit that once I seen someone actually show his marks from an attack with a picture. Amazing that left a clear message because the person didn't deny when he accused her of attacking him.

[tacodog]

You know, I did not read the Thuban thread, I glanced at it, left it, and have just read more or less the reviews on it. Don’t ask me why, the thread just never caught my attention. I am just a person trying to find truth as best I can. I try to live a clean and good life and be of service to people where and when I can. I dream of a world where there is much love for all, where there is no war, bickering, starvation, death; a world where life does not exist by consuming and destroying another.

I have never experienced what many of you have. I have never seen a UFO. I do not believe these things cannot exist. I can only glean from what others have experienced/researched and from this form ideas, theories.

It is no surprise to me that other entities require energy to survive. That is how our 3d world works for life to exist here. There seems to be a variety of ways a life form can consume energy, but always one life ceases to exist here for another; perhaps on a higher level, the energy is exchanged without a “death” of a life force required.
I do not think anyone asks to be attacked, and if they are - why? A hard lesson? Or is it more fatal than that? If so, why? Is our “soul” on the line here? Would our creator allow our soul to cease to exist because we erred? Or, is all of this just a holographic game and we are all but one entity playing out a variety of roles, personalities, entities?

Why would a creator of all that is out of love require worship from its creations? Why would it require that its creations fear it? Do you, as a parent, wish your children to fear you? Do you want them to worship you? Sure you want them to learn, experience life, to grow and to love and to respect. You would protect them with your life if you had to, even if they turned away from you...would you not? Would you wait for your child to ask you for help before you helped him/her? Would you ever lose love and turn your back on your child for disobeying you and allow him/her to cease to exist? Is our creator any different?

So many questions, so much to learn, experience, explore, discern; like starting from scratch because all of this knowledge and truth has been erased from my memory....I admire those who have found a way to access these memories of knowledge and truth.

[carriblu]

from experience, i've found that most of these attackers (all of mine) have been lost, confused, and very fearful. when they're confronted and litterally reasoned with and shown the truth of what they are, instead of being damned to hell and released as deamons, they often change their ways and can be turned into possitive energy instead of negative. there is a little light inside all these lost soles and when you show it to them, they realise what they are doing is wrong and they leave kindly. in this way, i do send them love and it does seem to work, most are actually eager to leave after a little while.

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by carriblu

from experience, i've found that most of these attackers (all of mine) have been lost, confused, and very fearful. when they're confronted and litterally reasoned with and shown the truth of what they are, instead of being damned to hell and released as deamons, they often change their ways and can be turned into possitive energy instead of negative. there is a little light inside all these lost soles and when you show it to them, they realise what they are doing is wrong and they leave kindly. in this way, i do send them love and it does seem to work, most are actually eager to leave after a little while.

This is what I really want. I want the bad guys and gals...human and non-human...to become good guys and gals...in their own way...and in their own time. I was hopeful that abraxasinas was in the process of doing this...but I could have been very mistaken. Hope springs eternal. I somehow connect my first UFO sighting (Friday night) with the Thuban Crisis. Could that have been a sort of Drac-Attack?

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

[UncleJohn]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

This is what I really want. I want the bad guys and gals...human and non-human...to become good guys and gals...in their own way...and in their own time. I was hopeful that abraxasinas was in the process of doing this...but I could have been very mistaken. Hope springs eternal.

What a wonderful thought ODM. I have hopes too. Thanks

[Lionhawk]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

This is what I really want. I want the bad guys and gals...human and non-human...to become good guys and gals...in their own way...and in their own time. I was hopeful that abraxasinas was in the process of doing this...but I could have been very mistaken. Hope springs eternal. I somehow connect my first UFO sighting (Friday night) with the Thuban Crisis. Could that have been a sort of Drac-Attack?

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

They are not going to fulfill your wishes ODM. They will just laugh at you. But keep wishing as hope can be a powerful mover in terms of energy.

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

They are not going to fulfill your wishes ODM. They will just laugh at you. But keep wishing as hope can be a powerful mover in terms of energy.

So...bad guys and bad gals...human and non-human...cannot or will not become good guys and good gals? Is there no hope of any sort of redemption and reformation? So...we just fight and fight and fight and fight...in trench-warfare...until one side obliterates and/or enslaves the other? Hasn't that been the modus operandi for millions or billions of years? Has it worked? Perhaps we should try something different. I was hoping for improved relations with the Thubans. How about "Live...from the Thuban Mehta Center for the Performing Arts in Alpha Draconis...it's 'Christmas With the Thubans'...with a special appearance by 'The Groovin Thubins'! My goodness...haven't we all come a long way from the dark days of the Thuban Missile Crisis??!!" Hope springs eternal. I agree with tacodog.

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

[SteveX]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

So...bad guys and bad gals...human and non-human...cannot or will not become good guys and good gals? Is there no hope of any sort of redemption and reformation? So...we just fight and fight and fight and fight...in trench-warfare...until one side obliterates and/or enslaves the other? Hasn't that been the modus operandi for millions or billions of years? Has it worked? Perhaps we should try something different. I was hoping for improved relations with the Thubans. How about "Live...from the Thuban Mehta Center for the Performing Arts in Alpha Draconis...it's 'Christmas With the Thubans'...with a special appearance by 'The Groovin Thubins'! My goodness...haven't we all come a long way from the dark days of the Thuban Missile Crisis??!!" Hope springs eternal. I agree with tacodog.

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

For the same reason communism didn't work. Human nature. The I wants, the can't have's, the us and them, the rich the poor, the lovers, the hater, the brave, the fearful.

Don't loose the faith...It might get interesting soon.

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by Anchor

I see a lot of fear in this thread.

"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering"

I want to thank you Anchor for posting this

You made me look at Fear. I had written something down a few years back and I had to go dig it back up after reading all that you put.

Here it is

“If you allow yourself to release fear and judgment of all things
(which is truly only an expression of fear)
You eliminate the illusion of separation.
All things are one.
To separate any one thing from another
Is to place a judgment upon it.

Judgments = resistance
Resistance = fear
Fear = limitation and separation “

Lauren Zimmerman


Even though I got over any fear I might of felt, I still felt that I was better leaving the thuban personally.

I do not have the right to judge Abrax nor do I want to. In a way I felt I was defending my own right to have the feelings I had against those that didnt.

Everyone is judging the next person when none of us are right.

I'm really sorry for offending anyone. Abrax has every right to his own belief
same as the rest of us. I never wanted to see his thread closed.

I never like to see anyone banned. If we ban one for speaking out then the next one and the next one.......soon no one can speak

[THE eXchanger]

Everyone is a mirror, of one kind, or another

sometimes, you will love what you see

sometimes, you will NOT love what you see

although, since, everyone is a mirror

everyone you encounter is a lesson

the things you choose to ignore

are simply, your choice

it doesn't make the other person disappear

they are still there, it is just you, who has chosen to depart

the funniest, and, perhaps most ironic thing we've found is this:

when eXamining past lives ~ oft times, what you hate

iS eXactly the lesson you need for your neXt lifetime

and, that is actually what you get ...

so be sure, to govern,
that which you choose to hate,
and, be sure, you are doing that well,
as, anything you do NOT learn in this life,
will get presented to you, over, and, over again,
until, you accept - learn - and, process
the 'real' lesson

each, and, every time,
the lessons, will also, get harder, and, harder

all is a choice, all choices are valid,
after_all, it is totally up to you,
how it is, you choose to act,
and, how it is, you choose to make your choices

love is the answer,
however, there are a lot of component parts
that make up, the totallity of love

each, and, everyone of us ~ are a part of that

[THE eXchanger]

love is the neXt best weapon, to silence

[TRANCOSO]

Let's all pray for MP2, so he will have pleasant dreams!

[Rocky_Shorz]

well we know how tomorrow will begin...

[Moxie]

Once in a while reason speaks, in my native english language, in whole sentences even.


gawd, i can be such a butt! or should I type it b*u*t*t to bypass the machine?!

[Moxie]

chuckles.... I'm so tickled!

There's nothing like boron for chelating toxic radiation.
Lithium works sometimes for mental balance...

Love is Not a weapon or a counter intelligence tactic.
There is no justice, only Mercy!

Thank gawd.
If I sound foreign.... you spot it you got it.

I'm a component part of Love, in this case...frisky!

Just as I do w/myself, you all pi$$ me off & tickle me to no end...
carry on

[Angel in Disguise]

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[tacodog]