Abraxas has been enjoined and his group is closed Edited

[Lionhawk]

For the sake of this post, I am going to do a channeling here for you today. The one I channel is called HIDDENFOOT.




ooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmm thump thump thump


Greetings everyone, and you too MP2,

Talk about taking a place at a table. Council of Thuban. Here's some Chinese English for ya;

Myplanet2
Eleni
Spregovori
Uncle John
TheExchanger
Hippihillbobbi
Anchor
Bigmo
Sabrina
Truthseeker
Jonah
Ross

And I swear I saw Jonah and Ross also in this list last night. That is 4 MODS plus an X-MOD with a total of 5 in MODNESS. How come SteveX isn't on the list? Does he play Igore in this group? And here is Richard taking the blunt of it as if there are no other Mods available. That's not hard to figure out is it? You don't need Universal math on that ine because a lot of these MOds are right here. Duh!

And all one has to do is track the behavioral changes. Has anyone notice the 180's with some of these members? I have. I also don't think this group as it is called, is closed for business.

Who was it that said there were lies on every level? Talk about two face manure going down here at this forum and what do I see here?

You folks up here in this list really think you have it down, don't you? For instance someone being used as a victim on top of being a victim just to hide your own victimhood. Talk about an exchanger of such energies, you are certainly a Pro at it Susan. This is all bringing back memories of the old Batman series. You know where you got the Joker, Penguin, and the Riddler. Except in this version we have the Exchanger. Not to defend Celine here, but when are you going to put your laundry on the table for everyone to see? At least Celine has been honest about it. But you on the Hiddenhand can only deflect your pain onto someone else with your rhetoric. It isn't even your rhetoric. It is from someone else. I have only one question. Where is the real Susan, because this version is a hijacked version. This isn't the Susan everyone use to know.

Same thing could be said of Anchor. You know the guy that when he emailed you or posted something behind your posts, he would always leave you with that RAM IT HOME feeling. Everyone following so far? Where did that Anchor go? Here comes this ABrax and the next thing you know, Anchor is no longer a MOd.

Spreg I thought was pretty cool and I always listened to what he had to say because he spoke form a heart. Where did he go? Where did his heart go? He went ranting down the street because he wasn't being acknowledged.

I can't say much about Bigmo. He just doesn't like it when a car pulls up and blocks his view. Ask Mntrutherseeker about that. If you wanted directions, he wouldn't give you any.He just doesn't know.

Holy Bat Droppings is all I can say. How many pieces do you have? Are they importing more from Alpha Draconis?

And the star of the show is really a none factor. With a name like MAnic Man all you will experience from him is just a bunch of steaming rantings of why you shouldn't pray for him.

But in all seriousness, these people have been compromised but they just don't know it. They are just here to trample over your Free agency by abusing theirs. They are the new gatekeepers to the door that was opened here. They have no authority whatsoever over this Planet. And that is why some have been targeted. If you remove the authority that says you are not allowed to come here under any circumstance so that you can have your way with this world, then they can then come in and take over. Simple laws of possession apply here in whatever form. And they damn sure don't want you to know about that. If you look at the root currents of what makes these Reptilians tick it is always about what they can dominate. You can track it even through the history of our world here, online.

Why do you think Manic Man hates my take on things? It isn't my take to begin with and I am only reporting from my field work and they don't want you to know what is going on in the field. Because that would reveal their agenda in these latter days. That agenda only leads to domination. Domination over this Planet. I know for a fact, that if we do not allow them dominion over this world, they are willing to destroy it all costs. Wrap your head around that. As I have said I have been searching for a peaceful solution, but that is not what they want simply because we the human race are considered cattle to them. We are a sub race that in their minds is to serve them. And what they fear is that we are waking up and self realizing our sovereignty and they know we are more powerful than them. They fear losing the control over us. I am not saying anything new here. It is something that you can track and verify. Now if you take all of Manic Man's postings as to how I shouldn't say this or that and then only accept his reality of being a mouse because that is the easiest way to hide as the coward, maybe that will cause you to take note. I am not here for some popularity contest. But if you can also see the anger of that coming through as to why I shouldn't say this or that, then he is certainly hiding something from all of us. He isn't what he appears to be. Watch him dance and you will see for yourself. But whatever I am saying is sure wizzing him off and I don't recall directing it towards him in the past. It is only when you see it for yourself then things start to make better sense as to how far the rabbit hole goes down. All I can do is bring it to your awareness. At the same time I don't want you to believe. But just know the possibility of whatever, does exist. If it can be thought of, it exist somewhere. It is your job to prove to your self.

No offense to any of these members, but you sure have really done a mind screwing on many here even though some of you haven't been fully integrated yet in what you have chosen to subscribe to. Jonah and Ross, I don't get why you find yourselves here, but you are here. The listing changes according to your software that I don't have any control over. Add Raven to the list. I guess if you sign on then you mysteriously appear. Or someone on the outside has hacked into your sever and is playing games once again.If you aren't part of this council then say so. It is also the list provided by Avalon. It isn't mine. It is also the property of Avalon now. Wrap your head around that. Thump thump

This is Hiddenfoot signing off and wishing a great day to all with Blessings for everyone. Thump Thump Thump ............

[Stardustaquarion]

Lionhawk, I like the channeling of HIDDENFOOT he seems to be on the ball

Love

[Jonah]

Wow... Behavioral changes = must be possessed

ok.. for a second there i thought i was human... but since i can chalk up my willingness to change my beliefs to being possessed...

well i guess u can add some more names to your list...

[hippihillbobbi]

" Originally Posted by Lionhawk View Post
For the sake of this post, I am going to do a channeling here for you today. The one I channel is called HIDDENFOOT.

ooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmm thump thump thump

Greetings everyone, and you too MP2,

Talk about taking a place at a table. Council of Thuban. Here's some Chinese English for ya;

Myplanet2
Eleni
Spregovori
Uncle John
TheExchanger
Hippihillbobbi
Anchor
Bigmo
Sabrina
Truthseeker
Jonah
Ross

And I swear I saw Jonah and Ross also in this list last night. That is 4 MODS plus an X-MOD with a total of 5 in MODNESS. How come SteveX isn't on the list? Does he play Igore in this group? And here is Richard taking the blunt of it as if there are no other Mods available. That's not hard to figure out is it? You don't need Universal math on that ine because a lot of these MOds are right here. Duh!

And all one has to do is track the behavioral changes. Has anyone notice the 180's with some of these members? I have. I also don't think this group as it is called, is closed for business.

Who was it that said there were lies on every level? Talk about two face manure going down here at this forum and what do I see here?

You folks up here in this list really think you have it down, don't you? For instance someone being used as a victim on top of being a victim just to hide your own victimhood. Talk about an exchanger of such energies, you are certainly a Pro at it Susan. This is all bringing back memories of the old Batman series. You know where you got the Joker, Penguin, and the Riddler. Except in this version we have the Exchanger.
Not to defend Celine here, but when are you going to put your laundry on the table for everyone to see? At least Celine has been honest about it. But you on the Hiddenhand can only deflect your pain onto someone else with your rhetoric. It isn't even your rhetoric. It is from someone else. I have only one question. Where is the real Susan, because this version is a hijacked version. This isn't the Susan everyone use to know.

Same thing could be said of Anchor. You know the guy that when he emailed you or posted something behind your posts, he would always leave you with that RAM IT HOME feeling. Everyone following so far? Where did that Anchor go? Here comes this ABrax and the next thing you know, Anchor is no longer a MOd.

Spreg I thought was pretty cool and I always listened to what he had to say because he spoke form a heart. Where did he go? Where did his heart go? He went ranting down the street because he wasn't being acknowledged.

I can't say much about Bigmo. He just doesn't like it when a car pulls up and blocks his view. Ask Mntrutherseeker about that. If you wanted directions, he wouldn't give you any.He just doesn't know.

Holy Bat Droppings is all I can say. How many pieces do you have? Are they importing more from Alpha Draconis?

And the star of the show is really a none factor. With a name like MAnic Man all you will experience from him is just a bunch of steaming rantings of why you shouldn't pray for him.

But in all seriousness, these people have been compromised but they just don't know it. They are just here to trample over your Free agency by abusing theirs. They are the new gatekeepers to the door that was opened here.

They have no authority whatsoever over this Planet. And that is why some have been targeted. If you remove the authority that says you are not allowed to come here under any circumstance so that you can have your way with this world, then they can then come in and take over. Simple laws of possession apply here in whatever form. And they damn sure don't want you to know about that. If you look at the root currents of what makes these Reptilians tick it is always about what they can dominate. You can track it even through the history of our world here, online."



LionHawk/HiddenFoot--

PLEASE ... you CAN'T BE SERIOUS?!?!??? Are you honestly and truly accusing all of us not merely of being "stupid dupes" ..... but also of actually being possessed by darkness/evil/thuban-draconian/Abraxas????

I truly don't know whether to laugh or cry .... i'm simply STUNNED that you have actually made such an accusation against so many people here!

Please don't forget ..... in the beginning there was Light, and the Light overcame the darkness. John 1

your sister in the love of Jesus Christ our Lord,
(whose name & sovereignty no demon can proclaim!)
hippihillbobbi

[Nebula9D]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

I want to thank you Anchor for posting this

You made me look at Fear. I had written something down a few years back and I had to go dig it back up after reading all that you put.

Here it is

“If you allow yourself to release fear and judgment of all things
(which is truly only an expression of fear)
You eliminate the illusion of separation.
All things are one.
To separate any one thing from another
Is to place a judgment upon it.

Judgments = resistance
Resistance = fear
Fear = limitation and separation “

Lauren Zimmerman


Even though I got over any fear I might of felt, I still felt that I was better leaving the thuban personally.

I do not have the right to judge Abrax nor do I want to. In a way I felt I was defending my own right to have the feelings I had against those that didnt.

Everyone is judging the next person when none of us are right.

I'm really sorry for offending anyone. Abrax has every right to his own belief
same as the rest of us. I never wanted to see his thread closed.

I never like to see anyone banned. If we ban one for speaking out then the next one and the next one.......soon no one can speak

[mudra]

Good and Evil
written by Khalil Gibran

And one of the elders of the city said, "Speak to us of Good and Evil."
And he answered:
Of the good in you I can speak, but not of the evil.
For what is evil but good tortured by its own hunger and thirst?
Verily when good is hungry it seeks food even in dark caves, and when it thirsts, it drinks even of dead waters.
You are good when you are one with yourself.
Yet when you are not one with yourself you are not evil.
For a divided house is not a den of thieves; it is only a divided house.
And a ship without rudder may wander aimlessly among perilous isles yet sink not to the bottom.
You are good when you strive to give of yourself.
Yet you are not evil when you seek gain for yourself.
For when you strive for gain you are but a root that clings to the earth and sucks at her breast.
Surely the fruit cannot say to the root, "Be like me, ripe and full and ever giving of your abundance."
For to the fruit giving is a need, as receiving is a need to the root.
You are good when you are fully awake in your speech,
Yet you are not evil when you sleep while your tongue staggers without purpose.
And even stumbling speech may strengthen a weak tongue.
You are good when you walk to your goal firmly and with bold steps.
Yet you are not evil when you go thither limping.
Even those who limp go not backward.
But you who are strong and swift, see that you do not limp before the lame, deeming it kindness.
You are good in countless ways, and you are not evil when you are not good,
You are only loitering and sluggard.
Pity that the stags cannot teach swiftness to the turtles.
In your longing for your giant self lies your goodness: and that longing is in all of you.
But in some of you that longing is a torrent rushing with might to the sea, carrying the secrets of the hillsides and the songs of the forest.
And in others it is a flat stream that loses itself in angles and bends and lingers before it reaches the shore.
But let not him who longs much say to him who longs little, "Wherefore are you slow and halting?"
For the truly good ask not the naked, "Where is your garment?" nor the houseless, "What has befallen your house?"


When we look at our brothers as evil how can we then find the good in ourselves ?

Love Always
mudra

[Céline]

Thank you mudra, your words always bring balance.


i do not see evil..anywhere here.

[Fredkc]

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Fredkc

Haha, thanks for that Fred...

Really hilarious!

I'm just not understanding how this whole topic of someone getting banned has evolved into a debate about Jesus Christ, possession, demons, etc...
Everyone needs to take a chill pill IMHO

[Fredkc]

Originally Posted by Majorion

Haha, thanks for that Fred...
I'm just not understanding how this whole topic of someone getting banned has evolved into a debate about Jesus Christ, possession, demons, etc...
Everyone needs to take a chill pill IMHO

And frankly IMHO, it's brain-dead cr@p threads like this one, staying atop the "New Posts"
list for a week at a time that probably get people to stay away in droves.

I am so glad I am not a mod here. Like I tried to say politely on

• page 6 (i believe) it's pointless,
• page 15 that it should have been thrown in the crapper on page 2,
• and again here on page twenty-whatever it is.

Mostly what I am getting from it is a growing decision not to bring anything serious here,
considering what this thread reveals about so many, and what topics have legs.


PS: Morguana;
I just gave it a thought. Dump this turkey in the crapper and flush.

[hippihillbobbi]

Mother Mudra--

I was just about to log-out (after my last post) but only got so far before i realized i was heavy and aching in my spirit. So, i deliberately came back on this thread to ask you to send some more words of Truth, Light, and Love this way ..... I NEED them! ..... and then, before i could even ask, there you were with your magic of the Unified Love.

Thank you SO MUCH, sweet sister. I receive the balm for my soul that you so graciously offer us, and i extend you my deep gratitude

much love to you Mudra, Celine, Anchor, LionHeart, et al,

you sister in the eternal love of the One who Makes Us One,
hippihillbobbi

[Nebula9D]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

so easy to point fingers, and, blame someone else
for spirit invasion/and, spirit attacks

and, yet - there is a law
- the law of attraction
and, one doesn't need to read too far into it

to discover, you are, what it is, YOU ALLOW

suit up ...
protect yourself...
& always, and, in all ways be diligent about it

there are as many timelines, as, there are people

there also is, a collective conciousness,
where everyone, is a piece of that

everything we have ever suggested to anyone,
we do it in a way, it totally protects you,
from all others, including us, by keeping things, in 100% alignment with YOU

we find it quite sad, that after, all the energy,
and, all the sharing, after 1000's of private emails,
that all these, so-called attacked people,
that many of you, do NOT choose to more closely eXamine,
the source of the root, that can block it,
thy_selves ...
yes, learn to know thy_selves

also we are aware of other things,
and, quite frankly, at this juncture,
if more of us, looked at our own roots,
and, built from there, NONE of this would happen

why is it, so many, need others, to answer their own questions ???

these answers, are your answers
~ NOT answers, others are supposed
to find for you, and, just give you the answers

we all need to get with it, and, get with ourselves

KNOW THY_SELF - or, aspects of THY SELVES

after a life, there is a review room,
during life, there should also be a review,
sometimes, when you just do NOT know,
it is time, to remove, the interference of others,
and, sit quiet, with thy_self/selves
and, discover, the 'real' answers

that is, what is called mining for your truth
and, doing it, that way,
is part of 'the responsibility' you have to deal with,
in peeling thru, all the layers of YOU

isn't it time, you all looked to the 'real' cuprit, in any equation ???

which, ironically, is always, and, will always be you,

what saddens us the most, is, that some of you,
actually were trying to hook us, up to some of these
so-called, 'the attack' senarios ~ when, in truth
we have done a lot of work, to help many people
to insure, that, they take back, their own control,
thru harnessing their own force/and, their own power
there are actually some of you,
who have been playing both sides of the table,
and, a round table, goes round, it has NO real sides
right now, my best advise, to anyone,
is this, learn to know thy_self, and, thy_selves

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

I have to agree with the idea that anonymous accusation is insane. I can't think of a more insidious way of attacking with impunity than through anonymous accusation. Anything can be done under that blanket umbrella.

People have a right to know "was an action just, or not".

well said eXchanger and MP2.

So, where is the proof of the said accusations. I have no problem with the accusers/so-called victims staying anonymous, thats fine and well and i wish them much compasion and healing. But , to get to the truth of the matter, where is the proof? can you show it to us? Simply, redact the victim indentifying info out of the proof and show it to us, is this too much to ask?

[Linda]

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

For the sake of this post, I am going to do a channeling here for you today. The one I channel is called HIDDENFOOT.

ooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmm thump thump thump

Greetings everyone, and you too MP2,

Talk about taking a place at a table. Council of Thuban. Here's some Chinese English for ya;

Myplanet2
Eleni
Spregovori
Uncle John
TheExchanger
Hippihillbobbi
Anchor
Bigmo
Sabrina
Truthseeker
Jonah
Ross

And I swear I saw Jonah and Ross also in this list last night. That is 4 MODS plus an X-MOD with a total of 5 in MODNESS. How come SteveX isn't on the list? Does he play Igore in this group? And here is Richard taking the blunt of it as if there are no other Mods available. That's not hard to figure out is it? You don't need Universal math on that ine because a lot of these MOds are right here. Duh!

And all one has to do is track the behavioral changes. Has anyone notice the 180's with some of these members? I have. I also don't think this group as it is called, is closed for business.

Who was it that said there were lies on every level? Talk about two face manure going down here at this forum and what do I see here?

You folks up here in this list really think you have it down, don't you? For instance someone being used as a victim on top of being a victim just to hide your own victimhood. Talk about an exchanger of such energies, you are certainly a Pro at it Susan. This is all bringing back memories of the old Batman series. You know where you got the Joker, Penguin, and the Riddler. Except in this version we have the Exchanger.
Not to defend Celine here, but when are you going to put your laundry on the table for everyone to see? At least Celine has been honest about it. But you on the Hiddenhand can only deflect your pain onto someone else with your rhetoric. It isn't even your rhetoric. It is from someone else. I have only one question. Where is the real Susan, because this version is a hijacked version. This isn't the Susan everyone use to know.

Same thing could be said of Anchor. You know the guy that when he emailed you or posted something behind your posts, he would always leave you with that RAM IT HOME feeling. Everyone following so far? Where did that Anchor go? Here comes this ABrax and the next thing you know, Anchor is no longer a MOd.

Spreg I thought was pretty cool and I always listened to what he had to say because he spoke form a heart. Where did he go? Where did his heart go? He went ranting down the street because he wasn't being acknowledged.

I can't say much about Bigmo. He just doesn't like it when a car pulls up and blocks his view. Ask Mntrutherseeker about that. If you wanted directions, he wouldn't give you any.He just doesn't know.

Holy Bat Droppings is all I can say. How many pieces do you have? Are they importing more from Alpha Draconis?

And the star of the show is really a none factor. With a name like MAnic Man all you will experience from him is just a bunch of steaming rantings of why you shouldn't pray for him.

But in all seriousness, these people have been compromised but they just don't know it. They are just here to trample over your Free agency by abusing theirs. They are the new gatekeepers to the door that was opened here.

They have no authority whatsoever over this Planet. And that is why some have been targeted. If you remove the authority that says you are not allowed to come here under any circumstance so that you can have your way with this world, then they can then come in and take over. Simple laws of possession apply here in whatever form. And they damn sure don't want you to know about that. If you look at the root currents of what makes these Reptilians tick it is always about what they can dominate. You can track it even through the history of our world here, online.

Why do you think Manic Man hates my take on things? It isn't my take to begin with and I am only reporting from my field work and they don't want you to know what is going on in the field. Because that would reveal their agenda in these latter days. That agenda only leads to domination. Domination over this Planet. I know for a fact, that if we do not allow them dominion over this world, they are willing to destroy it all costs. Wrap your head around that.

As I have said I have been searching for a peaceful solution, but that is not what they want simply because we the human race are considered cattle to them. We are a sub race that in their minds is to serve them. And what they fear is that we are waking up and self realizing our sovereignty and they know we are more powerful than them.

They fear losing the control over us. I am not saying anything new here. It is something that you can track and verify.

Now if you take all of Manic Man's postings as to how I shouldn't say this or that and then only accept his reality of being a mouse because that is the easiest way to hide as the coward, maybe that will cause you to take note. I am not here for some popularity contest. But if you can also see the anger of that coming through as to why I shouldn't say this or that, then he is certainly hiding something from all of us. He isn't what he appears to be. Watch him dance and you will see for yourself. But whatever I am saying is sure wizzing him off and I don't recall directing it towards him in the past.

It is only when you see it for yourself then things start to make better sense as to how far the rabbit hole goes down. All I can do is bring it to your awareness. At the same time I don't want you to believe. But just know the possibility of whatever, does exist. If it can be thought of, it exist somewhere. It is your job to prove to your self.

This is Hiddenfoot signing off and wishing a great day to all with Blessings for everyone. Thump Thump Thump ............

EXCELLENT!

[Jonah]

yes wow.. excellence...

How do you protect yourself lionhawk... are you not subject to such a behavioral change...

what makes your method of protection better than mine..ahhaah if you could see my "protection" you would understand what i mean by that...

so... what makes you less inclined to possession?? since you have so irresponsibly accused..

is it your wish to carry on these nonsensical discussions...??

cause that to me sounds more like something "they" would want.... but perhaps i am wrong...

you see... it works both ways...

luv to you hidden foot... from hidden knuckle...

[Céline]

Originally Posted by Jonah

yes wow.. excellence...

How do you protect yourself lionhawk... are you not subject to such a behavioral change...

what makes your method of protection better than mine..ahhaah if you could see my "protection" you would understand what i mean by that...

so... what makes you less inclined to possession?? since you have so irresponsibly accused..

is it your wish to carry on these nonsensical discussions...??

cause that to me sounds more like something they would want.... but perhaps i am wrong...

you see... it works both ways...

luv to you hidden foot... from hidden knuckle...

MANY make nonsensical presumptions about possessions, Jonah.

[bigmo]

Go ahead Lionhawk... I'll be your whipping boy this time... hehe.... it kinda feels Good!

If you know what I mean...

Peace to you.

[Jonah]

Originally Posted by Céline

MANY make nonsensical presumptions about possessions, Jonah.

You are correct Celine...

which is why i suspect that people do not understand what it truly means...

hence my ? to lionhawk...

are we to continue our wall building or shall we agree to disagree... and then walk around the wall..to give eachother a big f'ing hug ?

[Céline]

Originally Posted by Jonah

You are correct Celine...

which is why i suspect that people do not understand what it truly means...

hence my ? to lionhawk...

are we to continue our wall building or shall we agree to disagree... and then walk around the wall..to give eachother a big f'ing hug ?

I am dying for that Jonah...

[Jonah]

Originally Posted by Céline

I am dying for that Jonah...

lets make it happen celine...

when someone accuses the other... instead of sayin woa there...

lets say hi there... heres a mirror... give it a kiss... now put down the mirror and kiss eachother...

[Céline]

i tried that..

i have been accused of being wishy washy...to much "fluff"

accused of "taking over the forum".. and many other things that you are aware of...

i sincerly tried to just love MP2 yesterday..doesnt want it.. thinks im a "little vampire"...shrug

One day maybe someone will want to know my opinion/thoughts...and One day maybe my heart will reach the Others...

for now..i fear hugging , here.

[Jonah]

Originally Posted by Céline

i tried that..

i have been accused of being wishy washy...to much "fluff"

accused of "taking over the forum".. and many other things that you are aware of...

i sincerly tried to just love MP2 yesterday..doesnt want it.. thinks im a "little vampire"...shrug

One day maybe someone will want to know my opinion/thoughts...and One day maybe my heart will reach the Others...

for now..i fear hugging , here.

Yes i have seen what you mean Celine....

But your thoughts are our thoughts Celine... that is the point...

Deep down MP2 knows you love him... He just saying he doesn't need a reminder...

by getting upset with you Celine... he has expressed his frustration with the fact that so many who say they have love for all...

but their love falls short of darkness....for misunderstandings are all too common in verbal communication... think about it... Do animals talk...

if they did... do you think they would talk about how they sometimes like to lick themselves.. or do any of the other ridiculous things my dog does..

But when a dog meets a dog... even if they look different.. they still acknowledge one another as.. being in the same boat...so to speak

[beren]

Originally Posted by Jonah

You are correct Celine...

which is why i suspect that people do not understand what it truly means...

hence my ? to lionhawk...

are we to continue our wall building or shall we agree to disagree... and then walk around the wall..to give eachother a big f'ing hug ?

Answer for you and Agape is next;
As things look so far, NO.

Why?

First of all, let me tell you a little something.

In all his wisdom Creator has created. We for sure do not know what and when. We see just particles of creation.
But when a race of beings come with a desire to rule over human kind, how do you call that?

Invasion.

They came who knows when in the past ,with will to dominate all life forms here. Some were eating us some were satisfying with us being mere slaves.
But the real enemy is not some creature of reptilian background.
It is the ones who stands behind them.
Very beings that are here from the dawn of time.

Beings that once were of light and love.
They chose to think that they are smarter than Creator. They openly rebelled and declared that THEY are in knowing what is good and what is bad.

Creator allowed their claim to be put on test.

They failed.

But their pride became huge as some galaxies are huge.
Their light became darkness and their love -hatred.
Since they are spirits they moved from original place and sprang all over universe with terrible desire to rule,govern,impose things.
They devoured many places in universe that we are not even aware of.

Since they are not physical they were and still are wreaking havoc across the vastness of the universe. They can enter in physical body and control it. Poor creature would not know what is happening.

As time was passing by and they being away of light of Creator their minds grew evil completely. Many chose forms of serpent kind and remained still in that form. Having vast power they arranged various experiments and now you have Dragons and others intelligent beings fully led by evil spirits.

Who knows what they did to that poor old reptilian kind in the begging of their rants.Why they chose reptilians ,I do not know. But the fact is that in that form they were hurting us the most.

I know whom they are and some here know too.
Many do not know but think they know.

Their favorite tactic is to veil you so that your pride and ego stops you thinking more than they would like you to.
If you overcome that level, the they use fear.
Next level are physical attacks on various kind,
they cleverly choose how to present themselves to each one is is being under attack.

Mind you ,they are very old,they know a lot of tricks. They developed a lot of technology that you are not aware of.

But key thing that they miss is love. Love is THE force of Creator.
Since they denounced Creator ,they self consciously, stepped away from grace.

Now Creator always gives hand and wish to forgive and bless, but it is up to each person to do their part of humbleness and asking for forgiveness.

Those spirits are consumed by their pride.
If they continue in that ,there are no future for them.

But now, here lies the trick.

This is not about them, it is about us,since they made their choices.

1.What are our choices?

2.Do you wish to become a dragon kind or do you wish to grow as human-an image of Creator?

Choose wisely.

[Jonah]

Originally Posted by beren

1.What are our choices?

2.Do you wish to become a dragon kind or do you wish to grow as human-an image of Creator?

Choose wisely.
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Your view is one to be contemplated...

Did the creator not create these beings as well?

are we to suggest that the infinite one was unaware of such an outcome?

Do you believe that humans are going to evolve over night like a light being switched on?

Perhaps you are of the belief that a messiah will come to save us...

I choose human evolution my friend .... although i plan on doin it withouth hate for any being created by the creator... sorry just my take..

[Jonah]

Mp2...

I hope you are prepared to relinquish some fire before letting it spew on every post...

All members of the forum should be treated with courtesy... even if they are good at pushing buttons...

[SteveX]

Originally Posted by beren

Answer for you and Agape is next;
As things look so far, NO.

Why?

First of all, let me tell you a little something.

In all his wisdom Creator has created. We for sure do not know what and when. We see just particles of creation.
But when a race of beings come with a desire to rule over human kind, how do you call that?

Invasion.

They came who knows when in the past ,with will to dominate all life forms here. Some were eating us some were satisfying with us being mere slaves.
But the real enemy is not some creature of reptilian background.
It is the ones who stands behind them.
Very beings that are here from the dawn of time.

Beings that once were of light and love.
They chose to think that they are smarter than Creator. They openly rebelled and declared that THEY are in knowing what is good and what is bad.

Creator allowed their claim to be put on test.

They failed.

But their pride became huge as some galaxies are huge.
Their light became darkness and their love -hatred.
Since they are spirits they moved from original place and sprang all over universe with terrible desire to rule,govern,impose things.
They devoured many places in universe that we are not even aware of.

Since they are not physical they were and still are wreaking havoc across the vastness of the universe. They can enter in physical body and control it. Poor creature would not know what is happening.

As time was passing by and they being away of light of Creator their minds grew evil completely. Many chose forms of serpent kind and remained still in that form. Having vast power they arranged various experiments and now you have Dragons and others intelligent beings fully led by evil spirits.

Who knows what they did to that poor old reptilian kind in the begging of their rants.Why they chose reptilians ,I do not know. But the fact is that in that form they were hurting us the most.

I know whom they are and some here know too.
Many do not know but think they know.

Their favorite tactic is to veil you so that your pride and ego stops you thinking more than they would like you to.
If you overcome that level, the they use fear.
Next level are physical attacks on various kind,
they cleverly choose how to present themselves to each one is is being under attack.

Tap tap...err problem! This is all well and good an all that but how do YOU know all this. ?