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[bashi]

mntruth: There is a saying

Don't dive for pearls as long as the waves are high...

[sunflower]

I agree with Mudra, Bashi and those who have echoed similar statements. Far, far better to stay and work together devising ways of coping with what's coming down the tube. Our diverse strengths bundled together will help us more than solo efforts. Time to move on. Time to be patient and see how things work out.

We are faced with a challenge right now on our forum and how we deal with this situation (divisively or collectively) will show us whether or not we succeed with subsequent negative situations that will no doubt surface again.

[TRANCOSO]

I have started of writing some really angry & nasty posts, in the last couple of days. Than, before posting, I counted from 1 to 10, and pushed the delete button. You see, I don't need mods to tell me how to behave!

I am completely fed up & done with Avalon. To me it occurs that Avalon 2 is a semi-religious cult, ran by a Priesthood of little Hitlers who longed to be worshipped & hailed upon.

AVOLONOGY DIANETICS - no more, no less.

If Richard & his fellow Light Workers might come back to earth & Avolon 2 turns out to be a TRULY TOLERANT & ENLIGHTED community, I'd be willing to reconsider, but for now, I call it a day.

The sheer arrogance of treating people as myself - a Real Life CHIEF, meaning that I do as I please, because I can - has made me so angry, that I have decided that might I be BANNED for posting this, the AVALONOGY Priesthood can consider itself BANNNED from MY turf - Amsterdam.

Love, light, unity, peace & understanding have become hollow words on this forum, but still...

LORD TRANCOSO

[lightblue]

sad to see you leave trancoso - must you?

best wishes l


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[SteveX]

HOLD ON

Everyone's jumping the gun

Don't you guys think it only fair to see how the new forum works? Some on you are making decisions based on your own or other people’s assumptions. Calm down everyone....gawd sake.

[TRANCOSO]

HOLD ON


Everyone's jumping the gun

Don't you guys think it only fair to see how the new forum works? Some on you are making decisions based on your own or other people’s assumptions. Calm down everyone....gawd sake.

I am making a decision based on the assumption that a moderator, who's name I'd never saw before, wrote the below quote(s), that started off the 'AVALON 2' thread.
They made me sick & puke.

- Now, As Avalon Launches a NEW WEBSITE....many new changes have been made and it will be a priviledge to participate....
Blessings In love & Light to this wondrous community !!!

- Blessings joe2288.......

The original ProjectAvalon will become archived and turned into a "read only"

There are so many beautiful posts and so much information.......it is never our intention to lose that!!!

We are, however, strongly focusing on Positive change & growth for our Global and Universal communities!!! And with that....Avalon 2 will be ready!!

[swordsmith]

will the archived Avalon be ... ahem ... tidied up after no one can say what went down?
think I might just archive it myself.

[777 The Great Work]

There are no answers, in an infinite ocean of consciousness.Answers cut us off from source, the femi9 Zero. Points wear fast in a car, caused they are constantly being fired .
This game is over

[mudra]

Whatever the outcome I believe the opportunity for us at this point of time is to stay true to ourselves and move where ever we think we will serve best be it outside of forums or within forums .
Entertaining the battle is just nourrishing the standing waves that have build up around us.
Everyone needs to move on .
We always had a path to walk onto and this until we are free of all games has'nt changed.
Remember where ever you go you are .
Follow your heart it will take you exactly where you need to be .

Love Always
mudra

[Anchor]

Out of the mists at last. Please dont ask me why that happened because I still dont know and probably never will.

AJ..

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by Anchor

Out of the mists at last. Please dont ask me why that happened because I still dont know and probably never will.

AJ..

Well hello Anchor glad to see you are back from the time warp!

[lightblue]

Out of the mists at last. Please dont ask me why that happened because I still dont know and probably never will.

AJ.

it's best not to think about it, you are back which matters - you've been missed!

best l

[joe2288]

Originally Posted by Anchor

Out of the mists at last. Please dont ask me why that happened because I still dont know and probably never will.

AJ..

I was so freaking mad when I saw Anchor in the mists on your avatar glad to

see you back.

.

[mudra]

Originally Posted by Anchor

Out of the mists at last. Please dont ask me why that happened because I still dont know and probably never will.

AJ..

It's a mystery Anchor or a spell .. but I am glad someone removed the cloak .
Seeing you out there without any " good " reason helped me make the final decision of where I really want to be .

Love from me
mudra

[lightblue]

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[SteveX]

Originally Posted by bashi

SNIPPED


Let me try to give my personal answers:

B&K: I noticed that they are at loggerheads long before the storm broke


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That’s about the bottom line of it. The collateral damage of their falling out with the follow up (bans, mists, deletions) is nothing other than paranoid mismanagement. The Thuban Crisis is little more than a scapegoat.

Long live the conspiracy

[Floyd]

I think that the infiltration/disruption platform is being used as an excuse to consolidate control and turn an open forum into a closed one. A kind of club med for spiritual elitists. This I think, was not one of Avalons original intentions. Thousands of people all over the world come to this site for information posted by its learned members and by playing the 'oh shoot we've been infiltrated card' the Avalon powers that be are cutting of a lifeline that may change lives. Screw the illuminati. You are running away at a time when you should be accepting a challenge. People are not stupid. They have the ability to discern and do NOT need their minds made up for them.
I can see why people are leaving but this is a time to stick together and fight for what they believe in. Free speech, equality, respect and freedom.
Thanks for your answer but I think you are wrong.

[no caste]

I concur, Floyd. The "mission" is flawed - and probably not even safe.

[Rocky_Shorz]

When Rambo shows up at church packing guns wouldn't it be smartest to point to the battle raging down the street and give him your blessings as he runs out the door?

Of course he is always welcome if he starts peeling off the weapons and dropping his ammo to take a seat and join in the gathering...

sometimes the war can wait...

[burgundia]

If this is true that on Avalon 2 there will be some spiritual teachers...so this is a CULT...

[seeingterra]

Originally Posted by burgundia

If this is true that on Avalon 2 there will be some spiritual teachers...so this is a CULT...

That is my fear... A Scientology spin-off would be horrible..

[swordsmith]

well is bill or is he not a scientologist? buyer beware .Be very careful tommy .

[seeingterra]

Originally Posted by swordsmith

well is bill or is he not a scientologist? buyer beware .Be very careful tommy .

Yes, hence the why I used that specific phrase. I think I know almost exactly what you are thinking, and I fear the same..

[Reunite]

Originally Posted by swordsmith

well is bill or is he not a scientologist? buyer beware .Be very careful tommy .

Bill Ryan is a member of the 'Ron's org', "an offshoot of the original Church of Scientology" Even more hardcore than the church itself.

Kerry Cassidy is not connected to any specific spiritual group. Bill Ryan is a Free Zone (Ron's Org) Scientologist, fully against and publicly opposed to the goals and modus operandi of the Church of Scientology (and, he is proud to say, named on the Church of Scientology's official Enemies List).

http://www.projectcamelot.org/questions.html

Bill Ryan idolizes the founder of Ron's org who happens to be Bill Robertson - The mighty Captain Bill

Here is an article Bill Ryan wrote about Bill Robertson back in 2006

http://scientology.wikia.com/wiki/Rons_Org


So who is this Captain Bill?

Captain" Bill Robertson is probably the person most responsible for the whole "Sci-fi Space Alien" label slapped on Scientology. After spreading rumors that the church had been infiltrated with spies he tried to start "The New Church of Scientology" with Church monies. he failed.

He claimed to be an "ethical OT" but did not act that way. Bill had a preference for dressing up in women's clothing and at least two of Bill's wives complained of his peculiar taste of wanting to play "lesbian" games as he used to dress up in ladies clothes and a wig and perform sexually perverted activities in front of a mirror. While those may be very odd, but maybe not damaging... he also stole another man's wife. Not the way an "ethical OT" should be acting.

He claimed to be second in command to L. Ron Hubbard and for a two month period in 1972 he indeed held a very high rank in the Sea Org. Over the next 10 years his behavior became very erratic. He became obsessed with remembering the words to a galactic marching song and felt the church had been infiltrated with spies.

Then, in 1982 he announced that hew was not just Bill Robertson, a normal earthling, but was in fact called Astar Paramejgian, one of three beings who were in reality controlling the lives of trillions of inhabitants of "Sector 9", a collection of thousands of stars and planets in this sector of the galaxy.

He formed the Galactic Patrol, the FreeZoners and Ron's Org, all squirrel groups. The problem with these groups was that they were altering (or making up) technology. Astar Paramejgian (aka Bill Robertson) ultimately developed a malignant throat cancer which led to his death.

http://www.scientologymyths.info/squ...tic-patrol.php

Astar Paramejgian WTF!!!!!


Since Captain Bill died who is the Chairman of Ron's Org?

Max Hauri and his wife Erica
http://www.ronsorg.com/english/contactenglisch.htm

Where are they based? Switzerland. Where is Bill Ryan based? Switzerland

Now they have been cooperating with the German agency OPC

Max and Erika Hauri are leaders of the Ron's Org of Bern, Switzerland, and were instrumental in setting up the first Free Zone club in Moscow.
They claim to be Scientologists, yet per their own admission they are cooperating with the Germany agency that is investigating Scientology in Germany, the OPC.

"Maybe it makes you feel more confident, for example, if you learn that the office for safeguarding the constitution (Verfassungsschutz) of the German state of Baden-Wurttemberg has stated years ago that the Ron’s Org is not a part of the Church of Scientology and that there is no need to observe them as the Ron’s Org has no anti-constitutional goals. Indeed, there is some cooperation between members of the Ron’s Org and state authorities who observe the Church of Scientology and investigate their activities."

(Excerpted from from page How can I know that the Ron’s Org is not another camouflaged organization of the Church of Scientology? on the Ron's Org Bern (Ron's Org Schweiz) web site, April 7, 2006.)

"Indeed, members of the Free Zone have now and then worked with state organs to observe the Church of Scientology and their actions."

(Original text: "In der Tat arbeiten Mitglieder der Freien Zone verschiedentlich mit staatlichen Organen zusammen, die die Scientology-Kirche beobachten und ihre Umtriebe erforschen."
Taken from page Antworten auf (FAQ) on the Freie Zone e.V. web site, July 6, 2005.)

"In fact members of the Freezone are working with various state institutions that are conducting surveillance of the Church of Scientology to investigate its wrongdoings."

(Excerpt from the booklet FREE ZONE SWITZERLAND The Alternative Scientology Movement, by Ron’s Org Switzerland)

"The OPC recruits its 'star witnesses' against the Scientology organization from the Free Zone. Not only does the OPC recruit in the Free Zone, they also try to get their undercover men trained and cared for by Freezone members; one even went so far as to recruit star witnesses for the ominous Bavarian Study from the Free Zone."

http://www.freezonesurvivors.to/max_erica_hauri.html

Max Hauri and the OPC Project
http://www.youtube.com/v/1ZEoC8Ypr-U

William Robertson (born Aaron Pfefferberg) or Captain Bill to those who loved him was a lifetime member of the Sea Organization of Scientology and until he left in 1982, one of the most influential people in the Cult of Scientology. During his career, Captain Bill would pioneer many many fascinating religious programs for the Cult of Scientology such as whether or not Aliens were coming to take over Teegeeack (Earth) through the use of Marcabian Invader Fleets. Due to his complete and utter fascination with "standard technology" Captain Bill was hastily removed from Scientology forcing him to start his own splinter groups to worship aliens.
William Robertson was born on the 2nd of December 1936 in Georgia, into a family of ultra - orthodox Hasidic Jews.
In later years, Bill Robertson would tell only his most LOYAL of followers that he was not just a normal Earthling but he was indeed a space alien named Astar Paramejgian. After word of his identity slipped, Robertson's claims became more and more insane - once he went so far as to mention he was one of three beings charged with ruling the universe. Captain Bill "LOLDONGS" Robertson has been divorced from several wives, who would later recount that Robertson was a hard drinking sex maniac who believed he was a lesbian and had a penchant for f**king himself with a corncob in front of mirrors while they watched aghast

More on the link

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Captain_Bill_Robertson

Here's your answer

Avalon 2 = Cult

[seeingterra]

Originally Posted by Reunite

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I was not aware about all of this info. Intriguing to say the least..

wow.....