Excuse Me!!!!

Carmen · 03-13-2010, 10:28 PM

Well excuse me again!!! Seeing as I started this thread I am going to give you my take on this forum and of the ethics, character and honour of a spiritual being/lightworker.

It was George Green's interview initially and the aquiring and reading of the books he produced that prompted me to join. Met lots of lovely people, made friends and listened to the many and varied opinions, learnings, of other members. Some people I avoided as I did not agree or resonate with their ideas and beliefs, but I had no problem with that. We are all unique and different and therein lies the richness and strength of a community of people _ tolerance, kindness, ability to listen, differences noted and accepted - I could go on and on, but you get the picture.

Interestingly, this idea of service to others and service to self needs looked at closely or looked at again, cos its a bit of a trap in itself. I talked about this last night with Gio and have thought about it since.

I actually dont agree with service to others, not initially anyway!!! One has to put on ones own seatbelt first. ( Hmm this statement may get me sent to Coventry or in to the bloody mists too

Well, if so, so be it.

We cannot give to others what we do not possess ourselves first. We have to fill up ourselves to overflowing and then extend to others our love, our power to empower. We have to be the example of what we wish to see in the world. When we give and give and give without having secured/filled ourselves first we end up an empty shell, sucked of life-force/God-force.

People think, before they are awake, that their thoughts are not known or do not have an effect. This is incorrect. Whatever a person puts out in thought, word and deed, is known, and is unerringly returned to them, often fourfold/squared!!! So, this brings us to self-responsibilty. We have a choice to be part of the solution, or part of the problem. Do we need to be right, or do we want peace. Remember, what ever we 'see' in others is our own attitudes being reflected back. We would never even notice these attitudes if they were not reflections of ourselves.

One has to carefully inquire of self constantly to discern between the consciousness of spirit and that of our altered-ego. One clue is that spirit does not become emotionally upset and is not addicted to drama to make them feel alive. It is about self responsiblity, of honourable men and women setting a standard of truth, openness, honesty, tolerance and Love. And not an airy-fairy, touchy-feely Love either, that comes and goes. Love that is constant, strong and is the basis of all decsisions.

Carmen

giovonni · 03-14-2010, 12:45 AM

As always Carmen, you have wonderfully focused and articulated your words into a very important and pointed thoughtout message

One cannot be of service to others, till one learns to serve (fix) oneself first.

Steven · 03-15-2010, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmen

...We cannot give to others what we do not possess ourselves first... Remember, what ever we 'see' in others is our own attitudes being reflected back. We would never even notice these attitudes if they were not reflections of ourselves... It is about self responsiblity...

I could have quote your whole post, it is full of wisdom...

Namaste, Steven

03-13-2010, 10:28 PM	#1
Carmen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 992	Re: Excuse Me!!!! Well excuse me again!!! Seeing as I started this thread I am going to give you my take on this forum and of the ethics, character and honour of a spiritual being/lightworker. It was George Green's interview initially and the aquiring and reading of the books he produced that prompted me to join. Met lots of lovely people, made friends and listened to the many and varied opinions, learnings, of other members. Some people I avoided as I did not agree or resonate with their ideas and beliefs, but I had no problem with that. We are all unique and different and therein lies the richness and strength of a community of people _ tolerance, kindness, ability to listen, differences noted and accepted - I could go on and on, but you get the picture. Interestingly, this idea of service to others and service to self needs looked at closely or looked at again, cos its a bit of a trap in itself. I talked about this last night with Gio and have thought about it since. I actually dont agree with service to others, not initially anyway!!! One has to put on ones own seatbelt first. ( Hmm this statement may get me sent to Coventry or in to the bloody mists tooWell, if so, so be it. We cannot give to others what we do not possess ourselves first. We have to fill up ourselves to overflowing and then extend to others our love, our power to empower. We have to be the example of what we wish to see in the world. When we give and give and give without having secured/filled ourselves first we end up an empty shell, sucked of life-force/God-force. People think, before they are awake, that their thoughts are not known or do not have an effect. This is incorrect. Whatever a person puts out in thought, word and deed, is known, and is unerringly returned to them, often fourfold/squared!!! So, this brings us to self-responsibilty. We have a choice to be part of the solution, or part of the problem. Do we need to be right, or do we want peace. Remember, what ever we 'see' in others is our own attitudes being reflected back. We would never even notice these attitudes if they were not reflections of ourselves. One has to carefully inquire of self constantly to discern between the consciousness of spirit and that of our altered-ego. One clue is that spirit does not become emotionally upset and is not addicted to drama to make them feel alive. It is about self responsiblity, of honourable men and women setting a standard of truth, openness, honesty, tolerance and Love. And not an airy-fairy, touchy-feely Love either, that comes and goes. Love that is constant, strong and is the basis of all decsisions. Carmen

03-14-2010, 12:45 AM	#2
giovonni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: within my heart Posts: 1,209	Re: Excuse Me!!!! As always Carmen, you have wonderfully focused and articulated your words into a very important and pointed thoughtout message One cannot be of service to others, till one learns to serve (fix) oneself first.