Anti-Doom Thread --

[Zarathustra]

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No one knows the scenario that will play out, the "wise" people (men and women included) will be prepared for them all.[/QUOTE]

well said

[FrostyMcunicron]

i agree its weak when forums start asking for money. i know a certain RU safety awareness site comes to mind and if they were to ask for money for the time donated to maintaining it & organization and mod help many deaths wouldn't be prevented years cause some greedy ego's dick trip, glad to see this site doesnt ask for $ either. Cash(especially the usa $!) is soo worthless.

I suppose the thought power going to the doom factor is strong at this time but i also believe somethings need to spill over before they can get better.

[Magii]

Here is great example of what im reffering to ..

with all the so called DOOM Threads on here ..


Look at this post
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4078


The poster - posts up SUPER DOOM .. aka "Death of 3 Billion"

all based from what a speaker says in some video ..

IF you were to research the speaker

YOu will find .. the Speaker runs a really nice website .. and a really nice Store ... that sells .. Everything that you will need due to the incoming "Doom"

---

This reminds of me "George Green"
Talks doom, sells books / gets gigs for speaking

Sadly to say .. this forum was created on his Doom

But there are always wise words that counter or provide wise solutions. I say let both flourish, and let us decide what is worth giving a second read.

[sunnyrap]

Some here bristling about asking for donations (that are probably too sparse to pay for the site) are forgetting Bill and Kerry did a HUGE amount of work and put all their findings online for free, because it was such important information. Few if any of us would be here on this nicely designed site trying to compare notes and discern best choices of actions to take on this information if they hadn't.

A totally negative response to all of this is as valid a response as any, and it allows others to test the strength of their own concepts against it. But it bemuses me why anyone judging all this info to be negative, doom and gloom leading to nothing good, would hang around on it negating the other views, which by your stated philosophy, gives it more energy even than agreeing with it. If you genuinely believe giving all this 'doom' information attention is injurious, then the obvious response is to leave the site and don't come back, don't tell anyone about it.

[Sanat]

As long as you fear physical death life is bound to be dominated by doom/gloom (allthough it is repressed in most cases and express itself as a general anxeity for anything real) because doom/gloom seems inevitable from that perspective. It does not matter what happens outside as all it can do is to bring up fear of physical death (which seems like doom/gloom to the ego). Transcending fear (of death) is primary to transcending doom/gloom in any form it may take. It is impossible to survive life, but it is possible to realize you are immortal.

[Magii]

New Audio from B. D. -

More Fearmongering
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This is the Anti Doom Thread --

Let me be the first -- none of that will happen!

Nothing bad is gonna happen on Tuesday 7th

[Hypnotize]

Originally Posted by Magii

New Audio from Bill Deagle -

More Fearmongering
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This is the Anti Doom Thread --

Let me be the first -- none of that will happen!

Nothing bad is gonna happen on Tuesday 7th

yeah, bill deagle may be telling the truth but I was still kinda disapointed when heard that message. I'm frankly sick of all the doom and gloom talk/threads, it those kind of things that will make these doom and gloom scenarios reality if there not already.

[Magii]

Originally Posted by Hypnotize

yeah, bill deagle may be telling the truth but I was still kinda disapointed when heard that message. I'm frankly sick of all the doom and gloom talk/threads, it those kind of things that will make these doom and gloom scenarios reality if there not already.

Do me a favor -- go to that guys website and tell me ..

What does he sell ?

And if that doesnt make you wonder .. I dunno what else to tell ya ..

[Magii]

Originally Posted by Magii

New Audio from B. D. -

More Fearmongering
~~~~~

This is the Anti Doom Thread --

Let me be the first -- none of that will happen!

Nothing bad is gonna happen on Tuesday 7th

Oct 7 is half way thru -- and yah .. no SUPER DOOM has occured ..

For the people who were "scared" I hope this is a lesson - its very common to fear the unknown or anything you dont understand .. dont let it get the best of you !

Have a Hug .. its Free


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw-VRDr2Yh4

[peacelovinman]

I agree with the premise of this thread. Let's have some forum sections devoted to real solutions and what people are doing on a local level to implement them.

The Venus Project (www.thevenusproject.com) mentioned in the new Zeitgeist movie looks interesting.

The Ringing Cedars movement (www.ringingcedars.com) which stemmed from Vladimir Megre's books also suggests a solution.

Both offer visions of the future that give hope.

Here's more folks that are doing something positive: http://www.pathtofreedom.com/

And here: www.loveforlife.com.au.

Let's get out there and do something, there's power in action. Let's be the change we want to see in the world.

[Orion Morris]

I also agree with the premise of this thread...

I dont understand how all these doom and gloom threads are allowed to just snoball into almost full blown panic and then I made one thread about Bill Hicks and his take on spiritual awakening and it was removed because he refrences mushrooms. It was a video on youtube about the release of fear and the acceptence of oneness and love..

How the f##k is the release of fear and the message of love not acceptable on this site?

Seriously check out the video just run a search for Bill Hicks and mushrooms and it should come up... there is no video of him but kind of a slide show that is really unnecessary for the message..

I would post the link again but I do not want to get hassled again.

[Magii]

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I have Returned ...

and I can now tell ya I was RIGHT

NO DOOM had / has happened ..

Doom and Gloom can sometimes be a reaction of living in an unfair society self serving structure. It is that little voice in your head that wants justice and freedom.

There are many people that want the end of the world because they are tired of suffering. The heavier populated areas feel this tension. And 2012 opened a whole new gateway for new age people to make a living in this prison economic system.

This can be a problem, because now there is a created uprising of prophecies and predictions that may not be true. This can cause even more pain and suffering because now people are being misguided. Then you have a creation of new false religions and cults on top of the already disturbing chaotic structure of slavery.

And when these new changes occur, sooner or later, we will need to realize that we are all connected and need to work together to solve our problems. Instead of being a believer or follower, you need to become a creator.

A creator of solutions. A creator of productive heart-warming decisions that make a greater impact on your surroundings. A creator of faith. A creator of generosity. A creator of common sense.

I am temperance. Many of you may be confused with my messages thinking I am a new age hugs and kisses kind of guy. No, I am just like you. I am human. I have within myself light and dark. I choose to balance the two and look at life with compassion.

I encourage we worki together to make the world a better place.

We all have a little Doom in our lives. We all have fears that we face internally. But we still move forward into the abyss. And we will survive.
I proclaim that we must think about solutions instead of destruction. There is too much at stake to just wish everything destroyed. It takes more courage to live in Humility. And Humility will be our salvation.

[Reveling John]

There is no solution.

We are slipping further and further into a state of being confounded. Utterly disoriented. Ripped from our common structures of thought and behavior.

Prepare, prepare, prepare. We will never be prepared for what is to come. That is simply not the point.

Terrence McKenna has always made this point in such elegant ways:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-50bg...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLFSz...x=0&playnext=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_WHu...x=0&playnext=1

[Accipiter_Phi]

Its October 7th...

and its a beautiful day in Los Angeles... thats the best surprise of all.
We have decided that none shall prevail against our City of Angels.

Reality is what one makes of it... and this fine day I feel like spoutin' a few platitudes!:

Fear only leads to anger... Anger leads to hate... and hate is the path to the darkside.

This forum is like an onion.... when you peel away the layers, you cry.

I think that perhaps some people are actually turned on by false, fear based prophecies like that of Dr. Doom Deagle.

This is why I am leaving the forum... not enough useful information... just speculative fear & conjecture spreading like a SoCal wildfire during Santa Anna winds...

PS: Where the hell is the Robert Dean interview? Obviously his message was too positive and therefore deemed "Not Newsworthy." Does this beg the question as to the motives of K & B's information filtration tactics? Are they trying to paint a certain picture? And if so, why? HMMMMM... Could they be under subtle subconscious orders to turn lightworkers into wide eyed fear junkies... thus, disempowering them?
Are they being presented with an ever expanding parade of disinformation agents?
Once one has the big picture of the falacitic properties of living in the fear frequency, do the answers to the afforementioned questions even matter?

This is why I am setting sail for greener pastures.

Accipter,

Do you have any suggestion on where lightworkers and non-doom members can go? If there is a forum for lightworkers, please post some nice links in my profile or PM me.

Thanks,
Suriel

[Magii]

Originally Posted by suriel

Accipter,

Do you have any suggestion on where lightworkers and non-doom members can go? If there is a forum for lightworkers, please post some nice links in my profile or PM me.

Thanks,
Suriel

If you go to GLP -- make sure you know its Brainwashing city there

I'm starting to wonder that about this forum ... you get alot of the typical Brainwashing type of stuff on here -- being spammed ..

[dolphin]

Originally Posted by sunnyrap

Some here bristling about asking for donations (that are probably too sparse to pay for the site) are forgetting Bill and Kerry did a HUGE amount of work and put all their findings online for free, because it was such important information. Few if any of us would be here on this nicely designed site trying to compare notes and discern best choices of actions to take on this information if they hadn't.

A totally negative response to all of this is as valid a response as any, and it allows others to test the strength of their own concepts against it. But it bemuses me why anyone judging all this info to be negative, doom and gloom leading to nothing good, would hang around on it negating the other views, which by your stated philosophy, gives it more energy even than agreeing with it. If you genuinely believe giving all this 'doom' information attention is injurious, then the obvious response is to leave the site and don't come back, don't tell anyone about it.

i couldn't agree more. very well said. i've noticed there are several posters here who repeatedly respond to posts in the way you just described, and in a manner which shows their ignorance on those topics--no matter the topic. instead of leaving the post, they go onto all the threads and write a lot of pedantic, negative things w out adding value. as michael st. claire mentioned earlier, ... it just takes a few to spoil the pot.

[izz]

dolphin posted on a chemtrail thread


i'm getting tired of reading a thread and seeing .. ARE DAMAGING THIS SITE! people who have imp info are having to waste their time by answering to these goons.

can a moderator please step in!

really ...

[izz]

Originally Posted by dolphin

i couldn't agree more. very well said. i've noticed there are several posters here who repeatedly respond to posts in the way you just described, and in a manner which shows their ignorance on those topics--no matter the topic. instead of leaving the post, they go onto all the threads and write a lot of pedantic, negative things w out adding value. as michael st. claire mentioned earlier, ... it just takes a few to spoil the pot.

dolphin this is the anti doom thread and you are one of the doomers .. so why post here if you want doom .. this is antidoom remember

[Zarathustra]

Originally Posted by Magii

Here is great example of what im reffering to ..

with all the so called DOOM Threads on here ..


Look at this post
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4078


The poster - posts up SUPER DOOM .. aka "Death of 3 Billion"

all based from what a speaker says in some video ..

IF you were to research the speaker

YOu will find .. the Speaker runs a really nice website .. and a really nice Store ... that sells .. Everything that you will need due to the incoming "Doom"

---

This reminds of me "George Green"
Talks doom, sells books / gets gigs for speaking

Sadly to say .. this forum was created on his Doom

As I said before M, the message to "remain calm" is not only prudent, but valued in the times we are living in. As a caveat, make sure your facts are correct. As an example, George's books are free. He charges nothing for them, not even the shipping costs. So whether you agree with him or not, earning money is not a factor.

There are many people, speakers, sites, etc... that fall into the description you gave above, but you do a disservice to everyone to unfairly include those that don't belong - equal to the service you do when you expose that which do, not to mention the damage to your own credibility.

Those that promote a dark future from a self promoting and self enriching motivation do great harm, but it can be argued that those that deny the possibility of dark times approaching, especially when incorrect information is the source, do a greater harm.

"Prepare for the worst, and hope for the best" is an approach that has born fruit from the days when a man was attempting to light a fire at will up to today, and everyone must be careful to distinguish between that philosophy and one which sees everything, no matter how innocuous, as the "approaching tsunami".

Your approach to this forum seems to veer too far the other way, purporting that ALL warnings of danger equate to meaningless worry. You might be wise to recall the words of Martin Niemöller, a German citizen who witnessed the rise of National Socialism in Nazi Germany...

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

I assume this is not your intention, and I admit that I play the advocatus diaboli intentionally with my replies, but please be careful for your own sake, and the sake of others, to not confuse skepticism with blindness, nor bravery with obedience.

Z

Good and Great God, Z,

Your words are truth.

A powerful rebuttal indeed. It probably does not matter in the long run that I have said so, but I feel compelled to anyway.

[Magii]

Intention is clear ---

I'm Anti Doom, thus Titled Anti-Doom Thread -


~
Btw I'm not wrong in saying g.g. sells books.. go to his site .. click on bookstore.. and you will see for urself ... your right about 3 of them being free but the rest are not ..

[QUESTINY]

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

As I said before M, the message to "remain calm" is not only prudent, but valued in the times we are living in. As a caveat, make sure your facts are correct. As an example, George's books are free. He charges nothing for them, not even the shipping costs. So whether you agree with him or not, earning money is not a factor.

There are many people, speakers, sites, etc... that fall into the description you gave above, but you do a disservice to everyone to unfairly include those that don't belong - equal to the service you do when you expose that which do, not to mention the damage to your own credibility.

Those that promote a dark future from a self promoting and self enriching motivation do great harm, but it can be argued that those that deny the possibility of dark times approaching, especially when incorrect information is the source, do a greater harm.

"Prepare for the worst, and hope for the best" is an approach that has born fruit from the days when a man was attempting to light a fire at will up to today, and everyone must be careful to distinguish between that philosophy and one which sees everything, no matter how innocuous, as the "approaching tsunami".

Your approach to this forum seems to veer too far the other way, purporting that ALL warnings of danger equate to meaningless worry. You might be wise to recall the words of Martin Niemöller, a German citizen who witnessed the rise of National Socialism in Nazi Germany...

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

I assume this is not your intention, and I admit that I play the advocatus diaboli intentionally with my replies, but please be careful for your own sake, and the sake of others, to not confuse skepticism with blindness, nor bravery with obedience.

Z

Very well said.