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Click the top line if the arrow doesn't work. I will survive! I really hesitated to post the second video...but I think Jesus has a sense of humor...and is probably LHAO!
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![]() ![]() I appreciated the videos. I think Jesus has a tremendous sens of humor. In fact, I believe humor is extremely divine. Different types of humor are cultural, but since Jesus is a highly multidimensional being, he surely is highly multicultural and does appreciate the video too. |
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Imagine Jezus landing while everybody just took off for the Pleiades........
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Funny, while I was writing you posted your post Bagheera.
Again sprituality is mistaken for religion. Religion is a group of believers following a "leader" outside of you. Be it a guru, meytraya, jezus and he or she can be black white yellow what more colours do we have, sorry if I left your skincolour out. Jezus, the Christ said: I will come as a thief in the night. And he will. You will not discover him untill he is there. Where? He will have all forms, all colours, all sexes but no religion. Christ (kristos in Greek) wil come IN you. The light will shine in your heart and enlighten your life and it will start shining as soon as you stop looking for it. Just let it happen, stop trying to make it happen, stop forcing it. It will start to shine as soon as you stop expecting it to come from outside of you. As soon as you will let the light shine in your heart the dark, the antichrist will leave you. The dark will not put up a fight, don't be afraid. When you put on the light in your room the dark isn't struggling before it leaves, it just disappears and only returns when you put out the light. There is no fight. The new jezus will be a christian: I think not.!! (Actually: Jezus never was a christian) If I would be jezus I wouldn't want to be a christian..... or catholic, jew, muslim, hindoe, new born etc... Either you let the light of love shine in your heart and be enlightened and realise that you are the returned christ or project it outside of you so there is only darkness in your heart (antichrist) and fight for your right with all the other blind ones. As soon as enough people will have reached enlightenment the number will become critical and it will manifest itself and it will be free of religion. Not one moment to early not one moment late. And it will be spritual: It will shine on everybody, no matter what race or colour or religion. As a matter of fact I think real spirituality will be the end of religion. The good thing with this is: You can't lie about it. Either you are enlightened or you are not. When you are you will not have to say or prove you are: It's obvious and you know it. People who claim they are enlightened obviously are not and they know it too. When you have found the light inside you will need no followers anymore, you are free. So look out for people with followers and look out for those who follow for they are even more dangerous because they don't want to be free and seeing freed ones will frighten the hell out of them so they'll do everything to hang them on a cross. It's happened before and will happen again. When you have found the light inside they can take away what you have but not your light. They can take your freedom and your voice but not your light. They can hang you on the cross (and they will) but not take away your light. When you have found the light inside you don't have to believe anymore because you know and noone can take that away from you and why should they? All they have to do is find the light inside to get it themselves. Stop looking for the christ (light) outside of you. Look for the kristos inside. It's there. I know. Last edited by Peer; 11-01-2008 at 01:58 PM. |
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![]() @ dreacon13: shouting will not make anyone understand you better. |
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Hai Steven,
once awake, you can't go to sleep again. I love this little picture at the bottom of your post. It says it all. Last edited by Peer; 11-01-2008 at 02:47 PM. |
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The ancients rightly regarded spiritual truth and experience as being incapable of expression or impartation by means of words simply. A myth or an allegory could be made the better means of conveying subtly and with a certain added force, the truth veiled under a set form of dramatic presentation. The myth would enhance spiritual truth as a drama reinforces moral situations. It was all the more powerful in its message precisely because it was known not to be outwardly a true story. No one was caught by the literal falsity of the construction. Attention could therefore be given wholly to the hidden import, which was not obscured by the outward occurrence. The myth was known to be a fiction; therefore it deceived nobody, but at the same time it was most ingeniously designed to instruct in the deepest of spiritual truths. It was a literary device to embalm lofty wisdom in the amber of a tradition that could be easily remembered, in the guise of a human story. It was truth incarnated in a dramatic occurrence, which was known to be untrue. Outwardly fictitious, but inwardly the substance of a mighty truth, was the myth. And as such it was the universal dress in which ancient knowledge was clothed.
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"I am not now, nor will I be visiting the planet before the shifting of consciousness is complete."
Jesus More here: http://www.godumentary.com/sananda.htm |
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When did fantasy and fiction so easily be mistaken from real and true...? 10 min of reading this pompous mess convinced me of its fantasic fictious fabrication...! |
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Much of the channeled material from Sananda rings truer for me than the Bible does for others. Different strokes for different folks...
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After listening to Jordan Maxwell interview, I think this thread needs another call.
Marshall Vian Summers in his book, ''Allies of Humanity book 2'' is warning us about it. Quote: ''... A Second Coming, then is being prepared by your visitors. The evidence of this, we understand, is already in the world..." End of the quote. Pass the word around... It seems the wolf, again, is coming under the shape of the sheep. And I'm not talking about the real Jesus here. Namaste, Steven Last edited by Steven; 10-13-2009 at 06:53 PM. |
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Remember the spear that pierced Jesus? Remember the roman breast plate of the one that pierced him? Was there not a lot of blood falling to the ground?
Could it be that some of those relics have survived? hmmm.... Cloning anyone? |
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Its still hard for me to take Jesus out of my life........but I find that I can read all of this and not feel hatred for those that say such things.
I believe that there was a man but I put him up there as a "radical" trying to tell us the truth and he was hung on the cross as reported. No I do not believe in christmas, easter and all that other bs. I seen the video that ortho put out here for all of us to view and I actually watched it all and some of that was reported came across as " already known" in my views from my searches. Now, it shows that when they buried pope john they gave him a very illuminati burial which they want to resurrect in Israel as the second coming. Who really knows what they planned on doing anymore. project blue beam will not work in this day and age. |
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Personally, I do not take him out of my Life. It is quite the opposite. The soul of the man once called Jesus or Jehoshua or Jesus Ben-Pantera or else is very alive. Very true and very present still today.
Like Peer said, there is a distintive difference between religion and spirituality. But that being said, we got to remember the technique used by the manipulators. They provide the books. They re-wrote them. Creating passages describing the second coming of the messiah just the way they plan to make it appear in a near future. And the mass will see their messiah in this false god. Be it Anu like it appears to be according to Jordan Maxwell and Zecharia Sitchin. It is really not the living soul of Jesus nonetheless. Namaste, Steven |
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[QUOTE=Steven;177423]Personally, I do not take him out of my Life. It is quite the opposite. The soul of the man once called Jesus or Jehoshua or Jesus Ben-Pantera or else is very alive. Very true and very present still today.
Like Peer said, there is a distintive difference between religion and spirituality. But that being said, we got to remember the technique used by the manipulators. They provide the books. They re-wrote them. Creating passages describing the second coming of the messiah just the way they plan to make it appear in a near future. And the mass will see their messiah in this false god. Be it Anu like it appears to be according to Jordan Maxwell and Zecharia Sitchin. It is really not the living soul of Jesus nonetheless. Namaste, Steven[/QUOTE Yes, I really did word that wrong. I love Jesus but know in my heart that some of the information we were handed was incorrect. I believe that He was here to show us the way.........One that I know of as being the first revel so to speak I have a hard time following the bible due to the changes such as the ones you talk about. I know now that sins was also a part of all of that. I do believe we are all one and I know that is not what I was brought up to believe. |
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If Jesus shows up in the clouds I am going to steal santa's sleigh and challenge him to a jousting deathmatch, winner takes all.
Even if I lose he will never defeat my army of psychic elves. |
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Thanks for your kind words, Steven.
I certainly don't profess to know how Christ will return. I do feel the Bible is a remarkable book - collection of books - and I have come to feel recently, that it is nearer to the truth than we may realise. I copied a quote from David Wilcock, and this seems like an appropriate place to include it. This is obviously coming in the middle of a discussion. Check it out on www.divinecosmos.com- "Those Pesky Time-Travelin' Dinosaurs", transcript of his radio show on Myth or Logic Radio - 24/6/09. "So this again goes back to the 2012 concept and the idea that there are very much real vortex effects happening on the Earth all the time. Enormous gaps of linear time can be traversed very quickly depending on where the cycles are. And this makes it all the more likely that the most radical prophecies that have been given in some very reputable sources about what's going to happen when we go through this shift may be true. That includes the Bible. There's quotes in the Bible that say the mortal must put on immortality, and that which is corrupt must put on incorruption. Two are walking in the field and then there shall be one; this kind of stuff. So the Bible actually spells out interplanetary climate change. It says 'There shall be signs in the sun and in the moon and in the stars. And upon the Earth distress of nations, men's hearts failing from fear of that which is to come. The sea and the waves roaring.' So they describe all the Earth changes. They describe the social upheavals we're experiencing now. And they say it leads to what we think of as physical body becoming immortal and basically that we go into this sort of exalted state." Here endeth the lesson. |
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Hello All,
I had two cents in my pocket and wanted to contribute my worth to this pot. If I may, I would like to first remind everyone that what we "believe" is not "knowing". What I have determined through self observation is that regardless the source, what is consistent in all of them is Unconditional Love. If this was achieved individually and collectively, our planet and those whom live on it would be very, very different. This is something we know oppose to being a belief. We know this through our hearts experiences and the heart never lies. I still have some evolving to do myself in this area, but I will “follow” what I "know" to be true. The Bible- Steven is correct in regards to the bible being altered. This has been studied and proven to have occurred in words, whole sentences and translation. Someone mentioned Allegories in the bible. This is a key I feel to unlocking the perceptions from reality that is riddled throughout the bible. Think about it, if you were a human in that era of time with little literacy or education, and you saw a bright light (that is not the sun) in the sky, or a being descending from a bright light in the sky. How would you describe that? There’s a lot of writings only a smidget did Jordan Maxwell touch upon where we are literally being told how our so called creator walked amongst us, but humanity has a tendency to believe in only that which is considered greater than themselves. Worship that which can do, what we believe, we cannot. The Bible is a great book, but it is an incomplete body of work. There are 7 books of writings that are not included in the Old Testament and several not in the New Testament. What that profoundly tells us is that what we know from the bible is not in its entirety. Secondly those who compiled the writings for forming The Bible, also had jurisdiction over what the masses would know and what they would not know. Let that sit with you for a moment. The Second Coming Throughout most of all our recorded history, humanity has been ruled by someone. If such a time comes to where we all do spiritually evolve, rebuke weaponry, true freedom, love and peace is across the planet… Why would we need to be ruled in such a world? For what purpose? If someone or something came down from the sky and eradicated pain and suffering, war, deceit, hate, poverty and all they wanted in return was to be acknowledged as our King, Ruler, Savior…Would you feel comfortable with that? Isn’t that similar to why we now have governments, presidents, Kings and Queens? Stop accepting and expecting servitude, and looking for someone to save and rule you. It is why we are all slaves now and paying for things that our planet provides us for free. In Closing I’ve shared this before via another thread. There are hundreds and thousands of galaxies, each with billions of Suns which means possibly millions to billions of solar systems and planets. However, our special planet is the one that the creator of all universes chose to place life in his image, but yet at the same time leave it in jeopardy of a negative being (Satan)??? It is a bit much to swallow, is it not? F A-A-A N T A S T I C !!! I say. Once we step out of the entrapmnents and controls of religion, this become clear as crystal. Once you are no longer afraid to ask hard questions regarding belief systems, "then" you can see beyond them without feeling like you are being unfaithful or disobedient to our ALL LOVING God and/or Jesus. Whom through your disobedience, are going to punish you by raising your spirit after death, and casting it/you into an eternal flame. Believe that if you wish my fellow humans, but I KNOW that is an embellishment or at worst a man made control mechanism. My heart tells me so. Our bible often describes our ALL LOVING GOD punishing us, yet it is written that man should fear??? There is much more, but consider the aforementioned. My apologies for the long posting |
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Gscraig, your two cents worth much to me. I couldn't agree more with you. It is exactly how I experiment it as well. Too bad english is not my mother tongue. I have hard time to exactly explain what i have in mind and tend to make short cuts with my ideas. I thank you for your two cents.
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I agree - Unconditional Love is the Way. The trick is discerning what that is!
Here's a post I made in another part of the forum, but relevant, so in case it gets lost in the mix over there: Jesus words: When the Christ comes back, don't look for it here or there, don't look for it in the mountains, or underground, or on the spaceships, because I won't be there! That's because: The kingdom of heaven is inside of you. It's not about the separate being that was Jesus was or is coming back to earth and fixing stuff and rewarding the good guys and punishing the bad guys, that's not the second coming of Christ. That is perpetuating the age old illusion that God does not live in you, that you don't have the power, that you need something from outside of you to fix your own problems and your own planet. The lesson we are here to collectively learn is that God does indeed reside within us, and when we realize this truly and that God resides in all things, we are reborn into our divine Being, as an individualization of the One. So imo, we should not be expecting Jesus to come back, rather we should be expecting to embody the consciousness that Jesus embodied and Be the Christ as Jesus was the Christ. It really is about remembering, seeing through the veil. God already is inside of you. Under the darkness, you are infinite light, so it's about surrendering the darkness, taking off the mask is all we have to do here... that's my take |
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