Tree of Life

[Edward Alexander]

No. Moses wrote the Ten Commandments, not God.

As I mentioned, God do not chose random people to be Prophets to spread a message, with his power he could snap his fingers and automatically make all people know the message in an instant. Those who delivers such messages are most likely lower level entities, usually of the negative sort, whom try to gain some power and control over people.

At ocassions one can get in contact with better types of entities though, such as those called angels, ascended masters, and etc - but beware even there, there are many deceivers out there whom might pretend to be something they are not.

Specially if they claim to be God you can be rather certain it is not God.

I would suggest you to try base your beliefs on actualy personal experiences instead of something written by someone you have no possible way to know who were or why they wrote what they did thousands of years ago.

It is a most odd statement for me when you say "the 10 commandments were written by God" and yet agree that the rest of the Bible texts are perverted and distorted, what exactly do you base this idea on? How on Earth can you say that the 10 commandments were written by God and not just by Moses himself, or someone else for that matter, or that Moses did not get this message from some other entity of the astral realms / spirit world?

Best wishes, good luck and may the true inner guide be with you
-EA

[Edward Alexander]

Regarding the drugs discussion in here, I agree that it is possible to have spiritual experiences and revelations from certain types of drugs. I do believe that certain plants out there have been created to assist us and help us - we have plants for everything, from pain to sleep problems, to get energized and alert, to improve focus and to relax. And we have plants that can help realize more about ourselves, nature and existence.

But, remember there is also poisonous plants out there, and that goes for the "spiritual" ones too, some things ARE just illusions.

A personal example on this is actually marihuana as being discussed here, around 10 years ago I really felt it helped me spiritually, and that it gave me something, new insights - now 10 years later I realize that it was just illusions and that it really gave me nothing except some wasted time feeling enlightened

At the core we do not need any drugs for anything, though for some people certain plants, psychedelics in this case, can help as a kickstart into the spiritual world, or as a key to open the door and let you have a peek inside so to speak.

But drugs should never replace true experiences, and ones real self, using it frequently will mostly keep you stuck at the same level - or at best a level of self-illusion, as joyful as that may be.

Good luck, and may the inner guide be with you all
-EA

[ctophil]

Originally Posted by Edward Alexander

No. Moses wrote the Ten Commandments, not God.

As I mentioned, God do not chose random people to be Prophets to spread a message, with his power he could snap his fingers and automatically make all people know the message in an instant. Those who delivers such messages are most likely lower level entities, usually of the negative sort, whom try to gain some power and control over people.

At ocassions one can get in contact with better types of entities though, such as those called angels, ascended masters, and etc - but beware even there, there are many deceivers out there whom might pretend to be something they are not.

Specially if they claim to be God you can be rather certain it is not God.

I would suggest you to try base your beliefs on actualy personal experiences instead of something written by someone you have no possible way to know who were or why they wrote what they did thousands of years ago.

It is a most odd statement for me when you say "the 10 commandments were written by God" and yet agree that the rest of the Bible texts are perverted and distorted, what exactly do you base this idea on? How on Earth can you say that the 10 commandments were written by God and not just by Moses himself, or someone else for that matter, or that Moses did not get this message from some other entity of the astral realms / spirit world?

Best wishes, good luck and may the true inner guide be with you
-EA

Exodus 31:18 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

18 "And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God."

And what do you mean by "Ascended Masters?" Only one person has ever ascended so far, Yahushua Messiah. He is also the ONLY Master of Heaven and Earth. If you're talking about the Masons, well, I don't have to go into much detail about those guys.

-Phillip

[arcora]

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[Edward Alexander]

ctophil: Quoting a book you yourself agreed to is distorted and perverted is not a good source, I can't take that quote serious at all. I could have written the same thing, does that make me a messenger of God?

arcora: God never forbade it, he does not speak to people. But various religious leaders forbade it, as such knowledge would make them have no need for their religious leaders, church, and their need for power and control.

For the rest I agree, there is a lot of liers out there, and I keep warning people about that, this includes anyone claiming they are in contact with God and messengers of God - actually it is even more valid for those people, including everyone in the Bible whom ever claimed such things.

As with anything, you got to be careful who you believe, its not much different talking to spirits and entities from other realms than speaking with people - some are liers, some tell truth, and in most cases it is easy to distinguish the liers from the truthtellers. The only danger is to fall for your own ignorance and believe what you have been told, trust yourself above anyone else and you'll be fine.

Regarding the Earth-bound, yes that is the same reason the Church, Bible, Religion do not want you to know about ascension - they wanna keep you down here as their ignorant little slaves in a world of illusions and deceit.

Best wishes and may your inner guide be with you,
-EA

[arcora]

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[Phtha]

I find kabbalah to be a much more computer like approach to the ancient mystery teachings.
It seems to me, at its core it comes from the same source as many other esoteric doctrines.

If you guys are interested in learning a little more about the kaballah check out this series: "The Kabbalah Revealed".


“Kabbalah Revealed” Episode 1 – A Basic Overview - 25 min - Dec 13, 2006

“Kabbalah Revealed” Episode 2 – Perception of Reality - 25 min

“Kabbalah Revealed” Episode 3 – The Path of Pain & the Path of Torah and Mitzvot - 25 min

“Kabbalah Revealed” Episode 4 – The Force of Development and the Meaning of Suffering - 25 min

“Kabbalah Revealed” Episode 5 – Introduction to the Four Phases of Direct Light - 25 min

“Kabbalah Revealed” Episode 6 – The Screen - 25 min

“Kabbalah Revealed” Episode 7 – Equivalence of Form - 25 min

“Kabbalah Revealed” Episode 8 – There’s None Else Beside Him, Part 1 - 25 min

“Kabbalah Revealed” Episode 9 – There’s None Else Beside Him, Part 2 - 25 min

“Kabbalah Revealed” Episode 10 – Free Will, Part 1 - 25 min

“Kabbalah Revealed” Episode 11 – Free Will, Part 2 “The Four Factors” - 25 min

“Kabbalah Revealed” Episode 12 – The Difference Between Kabbalah and Religion - 25 min

“Kabbalah Revealed” Episode 13 – Defining the Goal - 25 min

“Kabbalah Revealed” Episode 14 – Revelation and Concealment - 25 min

“Kabbalah Revealed” Episode 15 – Inanimate Vegetative Animate Human - 25 min

Homepage: http://www.kabbalah.info/

[Edward Alexander]

arcora: Why would he "send" someone to speak for him? He is the Lord of the Universe, he could simply tell us himself so there would be no misunderstanding. How to know if it is a "true angel of God" or a "false" one? Simply because there is no such, God does not speak through other entities to deliver messages, even the thought is absurd. That is saying God do not have Control over his own Creation, that he is too weak to even make us hear him. You are putting angelic beings above God with your assumption, which means then that the Angelic Beings must be more powerful than God, which again is absurd.

God do not interfere, there are other Creators and gods, and angelic beings, as well as demons and devils and what not that do though.

-EA

[arcora]

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[Orion11]

[Edward Alexander]

arcora: Sorry but you completely ignored my questions and comments. If "He" wanted us to do anything he could tell us, just like in your own example about parents, they told us themselves did they not? They did not go and tell some stranger to come and tell us did they? No, and I don't think God would do that either if he actually was taking part of anything happening here or wanted to tell us - He could do so directly and clearly without any sort of misunderstanding. And he does not so clearly , to me, he do not interfere with us here at all. He, whatever "he" is, has already created a system in which where we do not need to be told what to do or not, we'll figure it out ourselves eventually.

I agree there are rules, or rather laws, laws of the universe if you want, just as laws of physics etc. And living in accordance with them will be of benefit, but they are laws that are in place and it is not a god sitting there waiting to punish or rewards you from doing wrong or right, you are doing that yourself by either living in harmony with the rules or not.

With that said, there ARE , as I already stated, "angels" etc that are out there to help us and assist us, doing good work. However, from my experience, they have chosen this themselves and are not representations of God, they are representations of Goodness.

Remember that God after all created both Good and Evil so he has to be both himself. Personally I think Good / Evil is something we experience as a reality here in lower planes, and that further up in our development things are more neutral. There seem to be vast amounts of levels, or planes, whatever you'd like to call it, between "us" and "God" - and many of these have their own Creators & Gods dictating their own rules and laws within their domains.

Here is a good example describing demiurges, the creator deities:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creator_deity

And we are also Creators, or Gods if you like, as we have the same abilities to create our own worlds and entities inhabiting them - as well as affect our external reality.

From decades of research, experiences and practice with everything related to the occult, spiritual, esoteric, psychic / psi / esp, religions etc and other paranormal events and abilities I've discovered that there does indeed seem to be an Ultimate Source , or God, which everything else exists within, and numerous other lesser gods/sources exists at different planes of existence within this True and Ultimate Source. We ourselves are living examples and evidence of this.

Best wishes and may your inner guide be with you,
-EA

[ctophil]

Originally Posted by Edward Alexander

arcora: Sorry but you completely ignored my questions and comments. If "He" wanted us to do anything he could tell us, just like in your own example about parents, they told us themselves did they not? They did not go and tell some stranger to come and tell us did they? No, and I don't think God would do that either if he actually was taking part of anything happening here or wanted to tell us - He could do so directly and clearly without any sort of misunderstanding. And he does not so clearly , to me, he do not interfere with us here at all. He, whatever "he" is, has already created a system in which where we do not need to be told what to do or not, we'll figure it out ourselves eventually.

I agree there are rules, or rather laws, laws of the universe if you want, just as laws of physics etc. And living in accordance with them will be of benefit, but they are laws that are in place and it is not a god sitting there waiting to punish or rewards you from doing wrong or right, you are doing that yourself by either living in harmony with the rules or not.

With that said, there ARE , as I already stated, "angels" etc that are out there to help us and assist us, doing good work. However, from my experience, they have chosen this themselves and are not representations of God, they are representations of Goodness.

Remember that God after all created both Good and Evil so he has to be both himself. Personally I think Good / Evil is something we experience as a reality here in lower planes, and that further up in our development things are more neutral. There seem to be vast amounts of levels, or planes, whatever you'd like to call it, between "us" and "God" - and many of these have their own Creators & Gods dictating their own rules and laws within their domains.

Here is a good example describing demiurges, the creator deities:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creator_deity

And we are also Creators, or Gods if you like, as we have the same abilities to create our own worlds and entities inhabiting them - as well as affect our external reality.

From decades of research, experiences and practice with everything related to the occult, spiritual, esoteric, psychic / psi / esp, religions etc and other paranormal events and abilities I've discovered that there does indeed seem to be an Ultimate Source , or God, which everything else exists within, and numerous other lesser gods/sources exists at different planes of existence within this True and Ultimate Source. We ourselves are living examples and evidence of this.

Best wishes and may your inner guide be with you,
-EA

Hi Edward,

I just want to help Arcora a little bit by explaining my own testimony. Yahweh does communicate with you directly, believe it or not. Because throughout my life, He has talked to me through various ways (such as dreams, voice in the heart, so forth). But more recently, He has communicated with me even more directly. So as a Parent (my Father), He does teach me things and show me the results of my obedience. I have encountered an Angel before in real life, not even a dream. He was very "different" than a normal human being. He showed up as a test of faith, disappeared, and then showed up again the next day telling me that I did a good job and that Father Yahweh is with me always. Yes, he was in human form. But the way he exalted Yahweh and cared less about anything else surrounding us (we were in a public place--a lot of people walking around) at the moment told me that he was an Angel. That is yet another way Yahweh manifests and talks to me.

We are currently a "little below the Angels" as scriptures talk about. Because we must humble ourselves in order to go through the training phase for the Kingdom of Heaven, which is the current life. That's something a lot of people can't grasp. So we are not gods as you said. I know this for a fact.

-Phillip

[arcora]

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[Circlewerk]

Originally Posted by arcora

Edit:

I would like to clarify my remark about New Agers and humility. It isn't that they're not humble, good people toward their fellow man. My comment was based on the notion that declaring yourself to be a God now - is counter to humility before the Creator.

No. A.A suggests Powerlessness in the first step. The word problem is not mentioned.


As for the conditioning of powerlessness in regards to relying on an influenced idea of "God," it appears that man operates disconnected from his real self, which is vibration, liken to the source from which he came, which is powerful.

"Powerlessness" is the conditioned state man is in, on many levels.
Religion, A.A, and many other organizations are relying on the easily influenced mind of man, to keep their control.
Giving man a false sense of control, which he derives from a dependence on an outside source like religion, or separate God, which is based in hypothesis. He rarely thinks to question his alliance to this dependence due to a subconscious tendency toward powerlessness (which he thinks is good) that is coupled with layers of fear if the very thought to question ( empower ones self ) even arises in his mind.
Or if he is free of thought long enough to vibrate toward his unconditional connectedness, which contradicts his programming, he shames himself once he gets to minding again.

The moment I allow, whether consciously or unconsciously, a dividing thought between myself & my equal vibration which many call God, I am influenced by the illusion and dis-empowered.

The vibration in unconditionally knowing that I need not belong to, or believe in anything, in this moment, is exercising bliss.

[arcora]

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[undetected]

Originally Posted by ctophil

You just contradicted yourself. You say that the Kabbalah is not satanic in nature, and then you list the close connections to it via astrology, tarot, and numerology. All those things are satanic. Using the stars to figure out the future is governed by the demonic forces, not to mention it is condemned by the Bible.

-Phillip

You are so ignorant that I'm starting to feel sorry for you. I won't bother going into this, I believe people here are intelligent enough to see the truth themselves. If your idea of astrology is "using stars to figure out the future" then you obviously never studied it, or kabbalah, or anything else.

[motov]

tree of life is the DNA string with 22 branches, the eating of the fruit by EVA is the collection of insight and knowledge about technology that was not intended for the NON-"Elite" so by "eating" from the tree they were "cast" down to earth to collect the knowledge from scratch... this is a quick and simple version...

[DMAN]

check this out........... http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...uisition&hl=en

[Edward Alexander]

Arcora: Sorry if I have mistaken you, my mistake if so, but from what you've told it seemed to me like you take the Bible as the Word of God and thus as a fact. If that is not the case, my error. I'd like you to expand on how God relates to you then, and what source you base your godly beliefs on.

Regarding speaking with spirits, yes I do that, and that is why I know how careful one should be, and also why I know there are a lot of deities and beings out there whom pretend to be something they are not, such as Gods. They are not Gods more than You.

How to test them? First of all it takes a lot of studies and experience and knowledge about such contacts to be able to even comprehend what these experiences are, but shortly, never trust anyone, no matter what, take what they say with a grain of salt, and question everything - though the ones who always are filled with love, joy and goodness and never speak or do anything that can be considered negative, nor ever try to make you do something, those are usually the "good ones" - as they emit love and kindness that the deceivers and liers can not - on this level such things are more easily felt than physically, as telepathic and energetic influences are stronger and harder to hide.

With love and blessings,
-EA

[arcora]

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