First strike Nuclear US

[viking]

Just found this on Benjamin Fulford blog...

イルミナティの次の企み：パキスタンと北朝鮮で二つの戦争を始めること
追い詰められた欧米の闇政権が次の二つの手を見せた：北朝鮮を崩壊させる。

同時にパキスタンを分断し、新しいパイプライン国家を作る。

要するに彼らは「金をよこさないと大量虐殺をやるぞ！」と脅しているようなものだ。もしかすると欧米の貴族 　（ビルダーバーグ会議、マルタ騎士団など）数百人を殺すために、一人当たり１億ドルの賞金を出すべきかも しれない。数１００万人の罪のない民間人の命は、数１００人の白人の貴族より価値がある。

Is war with Pakistan and North Korea the illuminati solution for the “financial crisis?”


The illuminati crime cartel has revealed their next desperate move to keep in power: two new wars. The plan is to completely devastate North Korea

and split off half of Pakistan in order to create a new pipeline state.

In other words they are threatening mayhem and mass murder if they do not get their gold. It may be time to put a $100 million price tag on each member of the Knights of Malta, the Knights of the Garter, The Knights Templar, the Bilderbergers etc. The lives of a few hundred self-appointed “elite” are not worth as much as the lives of millions of innocent people.

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/b.../05/index.html
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On a lighter note we all need to think along a positive note to hopefully suppress the evil that PTB are trying to create. They are panicking big time and will try anything to take your mind off the current global problems.

We can all dampen the flames of evil with our collective energy, perhaps to pay particular attention with the next Nexus Event on saturday.

The power is with us. REMEMBER!

We will win.



viking

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by viking

We will win!

Already have! Most people just don't know it yet.

However, let's not allow ourselves attempt a snatching of defeat from the jaws of victory.

A..

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Karen

We have been subjected to tremendous levels of mind control through agencies such as the Tavistock Institute in Britain. We have been trained to think all is well, leave everything to the government and they will take care of you. All systems have been totally corrupted with mind control. The school systems are purposely set up to dumb us down - the religious systems to suppress us - the political systems to make us think we have a choice - the people in America have never been free. We are wage slaves trained work all day, come home exhausted, and to sit on the couch watching sports and other "entertainment", eating pretzels and drinking beer. And other variations of that theme.
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This is how I perceived USA... Being from "outside" we often can see thingsI that those who are "inside" can't see...It applies to any country and any nationality...
However I am glad that the people in USA see that too because the change can come from inside only...
I was always wondering how it was possible for people to live in USA thinking they are free, when I knew they weren't...But then your propaganda machine has always worked perfectly. You have been living in a bigger illusion than the rest of the world.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

fourwinds and that other site are known disinfo sites are they not.. the OP may be unaware of that fact.. i think fullford has valid points sometimes tho.. i cant see anything but a stand off here.. unless of course thyey want full bore nuclear war...

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by burgundia

This is how I perceived USA... Being from "outside" we often can see thingsI that those who are "inside" can't see...It applies to any country and any nationality...
However I am glad that the people in USA see that too because the change can come from inside only...
I was always wondering how it was possible for people to live in USA thinking they are free, when I knew they weren't...But then your propaganda machine has always worked perfectly. You have been living in a bigger illusion than the rest of the world.

If Americans are the most deluded people on Earth...which country is the model of getting it right? Who are the most free people on Earth? When America is completely neutralized...who will lead what is left of the free world?

[Dantheman62]

I don't know burgundia and Karen, I kind of disagree, and agree. I loved growing up here in America! It's a beautiful country full of beautiful people.
I've always done whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted, and wherever I wanted. No government or police or military ever stopped me from doing anything I wanted. Or made me do anything I didn't want.

If you truly love your job and enjoy going to work everyday and can do whatever,whenever, then that's freedom to me! You always have to work, whether it's to make money or build something or just gardening at home. Work is sort of a state of mind.
I agree with Karen that we've been brainwashed since day one in our schools and churches.
But guess what, I quit school when I was in high school, and I stopped going to church when I was about 8 years old, knowing that there was something seriously wrong with both!!!

America has done a lot of stupid things, but we've also helped a lot of people in a lot of countries around the world. Just think of all the food, aid, medicine, and technology we've shared with countries.
I couldn't imagine living anywhere else, and really never wanted to.

[Steve_A]

Hi orthodoxymoron,

I don't know why, but I kind of like the idea of Denmark as a good place to be. I only ever went once, to Esbjerg (I think that's how you spell it) when I was a lot younger and was priviledged to play a game of darts with an Eskimo - and I won!

Failing that, try Sealand, a very small country that fits on a postage stamp just off the British coast. There could be room for maneuver there if the local people like you. If not you will need to 'walk the plank'!

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

If Americans are the most deluded people on Earth...which country is the model of getting it right? Who are the most free people on Earth? When America is completely neutralized...who will lead what is left of the free world?

[viking]

Well I pray that this is all cocka-hoop!!!

Check this..http://turnerradionetwork.blogspot.c...-deployed.html

***** FLASH TRAFFIC **** URGENT ****

The United States has begun deploying B-2 Stealth Bombers from the mainland USA to Andersen Air Force Base in Guam. This would put the nuclear-armed bombers well within striking distance of North Korea.

The photo below was taken today at Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri, home to the B-2 fleet as two B-2's taxi to the main runway for takeoff.
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again I mention this...We can all dampen the flames of evil with our collective energy, perhaps to pay particular attention with the next Nexus Event on saturday.

viking

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

America has done a lot of stupid things, but we've also helped a lot of people in a lot of countries around the world. Just think of all the food, aid, medicine, and technology we've shared with countries.
I couldn't imagine living anywhere else, and really never wanted to.

I am afraid that all that sharing wasn't very altruistic in nature. there were always interests behind. Besides The USA dictates other countries what they can or cannot do, like for example who can sell weapons to what country ( of course THE US can sell whomever they want to). It's like first destroy Iraq, then help rebuild it making profit, establish businesses there, take over whatever you can. use depleted uranium bullets and then send medicine ( I am being a bit sarcastic here, I know). When it comes to technology, scientists from all over the world have worked on various inventions. Just check how many foreigners among them. And if part of the technology comes from ETs then it belongs to everybody.
You have always been told that you live in the best place on earth ( and for many people it could be true), but in schools ,in social studies for example, they teach only about the US ( no surprise that so many Americans do not know which countries USA borders on..). When The Olympic games are broadcast you only know what medal or which place American sportsmen come in....even if an American is 5th or 6th this is what they tell you, not even who won. When you watch TV there, you think that THE WORLD is THE USA only...

When it comes to stupid things..what do you have in mind? because when you think about the wars and conflicts started by USA, then we may say that Hitler and Stalin did stupid things too....

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

If Americans are the most deluded people on Earth...which country is the model of getting it right? Who are the most free people on Earth? When America is completely neutralized...who will lead what is left of the free world?

Perhaps there is no perfect model, perhaps it still must be made.....I know what America is like, good and bad sides, but To me it is not a model to follow. I don't think there is one country which could serve as a model...

[Dantheman62]

Originally Posted by burgundia

I am afraid that all that sharing wasn't very altruistic in nature. there were always interests behind. Besides The USA dictates other countries what they can or cannot do, like for example who can sell weapons to what country ( of course THE US can sell whomever they want to). It's like first destroy Iraq, then help rebuild it making profit, establish businesses there, take over whatever you can. use depleted uranium bullets and then send medicine ( I am being a bit sarcastic here, I know). When it comes to technology, scientists from all over the world have worked on various inventions. Just check how many foreigners among them. And if part of the technology comes from ETs then it belongs to everybody.
You have always been told that you live in the best place on earth ( and for many people it could be true), but in schools ,in social studies for example, they teach only about the US ( no surprise that so many Americans do not know which countries USA borders on..). When The Olympic games are broadcast you only know what medal or which place American sportsmen come in....even if an American is 5th or 6th this is what they tell you, not even who won. When you watch TV there, you think that THE WORLD is THE USA only...

When it comes to stupid things..what do you have in mind? because when you think about the wars and conflicts started by USA, then we may say that Hitler and Stalin did stupid things too....

I do agree with a lot of that, we should stop playing the game of telling people what to do! Bush was very good at telling people what to do around the world. Being a bully country will definitely get us nowhere.
I disagree with some of what you say about our schools though. I grew up in Minnesota, which at the time was 4th in the nation as far as quality of education. I never paid attention and still learned a lot.
We did study about other countries and geography was one of my favorite subjects.
As far as Olympic games, don't most people try and watch their own countrymen, and hope they do well?
I think you're generalizing us too much, I think we're a lot more worldly than you give us credit for.

[Avid]

Oh dear - after the initial 'panic' reading Vikings post, hmmm, why am I worried?
Am I meant to be worried?
I read all points of view, and really - if the stupid PTB want to 'take out' NK, it is highly unlikely Russia and China (and anyone nearby) would say OK!
Too much to lose.
To be honest, I cannot imagine in this technological age that an 'EMP' wouldn't take down any threats via the scalar technology most large powers have now.
It's all posturing as usual by the controlled MSM.
If anything happens, it's deliberate and planned by the PTB (as in - oops - 'they' fired first). Utter nonsense to think that NK has anything like the technology that is now in the hands of the global PTB (no advanced nation exempt).
I'm so sick of their 'fake wars', PTB - rot in your hell, and no doubt you'll enjoy it without us. BTW you go - we stay!

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

I do agree with a lot of that, we should stop playing the game of telling people what to do! Bush was very good at telling people what to do around the world. Being a bully country will definitely get us nowhere.
I disagree with some of what you say about our schools though. I grew up in Minnesota, which at the time was 4th in the nation as far as quality of education. I never paid attention and still learned a lot.
We did study about other countries and geography was one of my favorite subjects.
As far as Olympic games, don't most people try and watch their own countrymen, and hope they do well?
I think you're generalizing us too much, I think we're a lot more worldly than you give us credit for.

When you studied geography maybe it was different. I bet a lot has changed since then.I worked in new York school system for a few years.....But that dumbing down is going on not only in USA, in other countries too, Poland included. It's just hard to say where it is worst.
As far as watching their countrymen...of course this is what is important. I just rmember watching Olympics in 1996(in USA) not knowing anything about any winners from other countries. In Poland we always know about how well our sportsmen do, but we also know who the best guys are and we show events even without anybody from Poland participating.
I do not want to sound too critical and I do not write about people here, it's more about the system. And if I were to generalize I think that in general Americans are nice folks.