Westboro Baptist Church Heckled outside Twitter HQ

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

King Lear,Blah blah blah. That's all I'm reading from you.
Any time someone uses the line "you liberals", I chuckle and think of Bill O'Reilly blowing his top whenever he disagrees with someone. [please trim long quotes]

I don't mean American liberals exclusively, I mean liberals worldwide.
They brainwash societies until they commit collective mass suicide!

And I'm certainly not an O'Reilly-ist! I totally dispise Neocons!
They ignited unjust wars in which people on both sides die for nothing.


I totally agree to your view on ORGANIZED religion and the craziness of the WBC! I just mentioned, how crazy they may be, they still have freedom of speech, that's simply holy and paramount for me!

But you also have to confess, that you and your liberal/esoteric friends like to bash Christianity foremost, and at the same time you say almost nothing about insane Jewish orthodoxy and Islam. And even Tibetan Buddhism has it's dark side: Feudalism.

The gay director Roland Emmerich cringed in front of Islam,
in his latest movie he destroyed the St. Peters cathedral but not the Kaaba in Mecca, double standard? Betcha!
And that's the point homosexuals attack and smear Christianity with relish, the society which grants them so much freedom, but the society (Islam) which executes gays every day, they don't dare to attack.

And what's really paradox, through their decandency and social engineering gay activist destroy the civilization which protects them and make place for a society which kills them.

Britain already has several Sharia courts which have the same power as regular courts. Southern France, a traditional church region, has now more mosques than churches.
And also orthodox Judaism doesn't spare homosexuality very much.

But still homosexuals, homsexual-apologists, liberals and esoterics try to destroy this society by social engineering!


And now you ask me if I don't like it "when gays kiss/hold hands in public"?
And I clearly answer you: Yes I dislike it!
As I would dislike public pedo- or necrophilia or even
heterosexual sex in the public.

We've to respect people's feelings and protect our children from such impressions!

So if some people misbehave on St. Patricks Day, i.e. have sex in public I would condemn that as much as homosexual excesses.
Not only religion is a private issue.

And in your last words you unmask your own hipocrisy:
You sense a gay pride parade as normal, but not so a white pride parade, even not an Irish pride parade.
And LA RAZA is ok. THE RACE would be evil.
Black history month is ok. White history month would be evil.
The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is ok.
But the National Association for the Advancement of White People would be evil. An ADL for Jews is ok, it doesn't matter how racistic and lobby-like they are in fact. But an ADL for white people would be evil!

Hipocrisy, hipocrisy, hipocrisy...
It's so typical of you liberals!

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by MargueriteBee

I don't understand what you mean, please explain.

Irony never makes it in the net

That was meant ironically!


Because all these totalitarian "open-minded" esoterics, who are in fact hardcore liberals and homosexual-apologists, attack everyone with a different opinion about this issue with the nice stifle-word "hater".
"does that (he) belong in this forum?" etc.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by King Lear

Irony never makes it in the net

That was meant ironically!


Because all these totalitarian "open-minded" esoterics, who are in fact hardcore liberals and homosexual-apologists, attack everyone with a different opinion about this issue with the nice stifle-word "hater".
"does that (he) belong in this forum?" etc.

Or perhaps they're just people with common sense that have gotten to a point where they no longer make such a big fuss over the things you're complaining about?

[raulduke]

Originally Posted by King Lear

Because all these totalitarian "open-minded" esoterics, who are in fact hardcore liberals and homosexual-apologists, attack everyone with a different opinion about this issue with the nice stifle-word "hater".
"does that (he) belong in this forum?" etc.

So I guess this means that your new avatar is less than genuine?

For the record I never called you a hater, asked if you belong here, or tried to stifle you in any way. On the contrary rather, I asked you to elaborate several times, though the only thing I really wanted an answer to is, did you choose to be heterosexual?

To be honest though, your logic is so foreign to me that I've lost any expectation that I may ever sympathise with your views. So it is my suggestion that we all simply agree to to disagree.

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by raulduke

So I guess this means that your new avatar is less than genuine?

For the record I never called you a hater, asked if you belong here, or tried to stifle you in any way. On the contrary rather, I asked you to elaborate several times, though the only thing I really wanted an answer to is, did you choose to be heterosexual?

To be honest though, your logic is so foreign to me that I've lost any expectation that I may ever sympathise with your views. So it is my suggestion that we all simply agree to to disagree.

It's genuine, as far as the Mods seem to understand me.
They seem to understand that I'm not just a "hater" but deeply concerned about the state of our culture and civilization. And that everyone has freedom of speech.


And perhaps you personally didn't call me a "hater", but it's what "open-minded" liberal-esoterics think when they have to listen to the issue from another perspective! I never meant you personally.
And I certainly can live with the fact that you disagree with me. That's your right! At least you're honest.


You want to say, that homosexuals didn't choose the way they are, they were just created like that? By asking me this rethorical question you want to hear if I as an heterosexaul choosed to be heterosexual? Ok. Fair enough

But, I could ask you the same:
Did pedophiles and necrophiles choose what they are?
Weren't they created like that too?

But have we as a society to accept their ways then???


And before you cry out: "Don't compare homosexuals to peds and necros!"
It's just a rhetorical question, a technical question, like yours my friend.

[rustanddust]

where are we ?

[Anchor]

I am an advocate of King Lear being allowed to speak his mind - in a moderate and forum guideline compliant manner

Discussion of the vaious 'isms - racism, sexism, nationalism, etc ALWAYS will draw fire from polarized views and are forum dynamite usually. Dynamite needs careful and sensitive handling.

Just remember that these things can always be discussed but that there is an over-riding need to do this with respect and sensitivity for the views of all. If you cant abide by that constraint, then you can't be allowed to continue on this forum.

With no reference to this thread - but to illustrate the degree of maturity it would be nice to see on this forum... One day I look forward to a no-holds barred disucssion of any form sexual perversion/dysfunction/etiquette - the whole works - that does not require a single post to be reported to the moderators !

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[ontario's northland]

I have read this entire thread so far, and must say, I agree with King Lear in most if not all of his concerns. I see many organizations who hold gatherings and special "marches" or "walks" and have NEVER EVER seen them wearing little or (next to nothing) clothing on! Why on God's green earth do homosexuals who march, and I agree with them marching...BUT why do they have to march naked or as close to it as they can??? I mean really???? what's that all about???? I mean can they not get their point across with clothes on?? Others organizations do. That to me is a legit concern!

[morguana]

wow, i am compleatly astounded at the way this has gone........
my kids know about sex, and they are 4 and 7, they know about transexuals, homosexuality, and the fact that their bodies are their own, good grief, is there any hope for humanity with these attitudes i have just been reading?
where is your compassion?
love?
nonjudgement?
for heavens sake......do you want to assend or not?
m x
ps......homosexual relationships happens in most species, go look it up

golly they even know what a chromosone is

[Jonah]

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all children of god....

[morguana]

Originally Posted by Jonah

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all children of god....

jonah that was truely beautifull, thank you sooooo much
love
m x

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by morguana

wow, i am compleatly astounded at the way this has gone........
my kids know about sex, and they are 4 and 7, they know about transexuals, homosexuality, and the fact that their bodies are their own, good grief, is there any hope for humanity with these attitudes i have just been reading?
where is your compassion?
love?
nonjudgement?
for heavens sake......do you want to assend or not?
m x
ps......homosexual relationships happens in most species, go look it up

golly they even know what a chromosone is

Perhaps it happens in most species, but only in a part of thousandth, i.e. it isn't the norm, otherwise the species would be extinct!

And what astounds me is, that your 4 and 7 year-olds know of homosexuality and transsexuality. Woman have you no decency?
How can you burden children's minds with something like that?!?

All these homosexual-apologists!
What is next?
In 10 years pedophiles say that it is normal and part of the "diverse" human sexuality to be a pedophile. And then they come and make pressure on politics to be emancipated.

And what will you homosexual-apologists say then?
"That's disgusting!"???
Betcha
But then the pedos will say "Oh you're just a hater" "You discriminate us!" "It is fact that our bodies our own!" "Where is your compassion?"

And before some of you homosexuals and homosexual-apologists scream out after this analogy:
"Hey that's not fair! You compare us to pedophiles!"

think twice, because in this analogy the pedos would say the same:

"Hey that's not fair! You compare us to necrophiles!"

It's only a step further... and further... and further...

Everything made to destroy our traditions, families and our society.

[no caste]

Originally Posted by King Lear

Perhaps it happens in most species, but only in a part of thousandth, i.e. it isn't the norm, otherwise the species would be extinct!
And what astounds me is, that your 4 and 7 year-olds know of homosexuality and transsexuality. Woman have you no decency?
How can you burden children's minds with something like that?!?

On account of that, I just pushed the Report button. You should wash your mouth with rose water, buster. (It tastes like soap.)

It's offensive. Like Morguana said, check genetics etc. Bye. Wait, your pedophile facts are incorrect, too, male sexual violence is usually 'heterosexual.'

[morguana]

Originally Posted by King Lear

Perhaps it happens in most species, but only in a part of thousandth, i.e. it isn't the norm, otherwise the species would be extinct!
And what astounds me is, that your 4 and 7 year-olds know of homosexuality and transsexuality. Woman have you no decency?
How can you burden children's minds with something like that?!?

All these homosexual-apologists!
What is next?
In 10 years pedophiles say that it is normal and part of the "diverse" human sexuality to be a pedophile. And then they come and make pressure on politics to be emancipated.

And what will you homosexual-apologists say then?
"That's disgusting!"???
Betcha
But then the pedos will say "Oh you're just a hater" "You discriminate us!" "It is fact that our bodies our own!" "Where is your compassion?"

And before some of you homosexuals and homosexual-apologists scream out after this analogy:
"Hey that's not fair! You compare us to pedophiles!"
think twice, because in this analogy the pedos would say the same:
"Hey that's not fair! You compare us to necrophiles!"

It's only a step further... and further... and further...
Everything made to destroy our traditions, families and our society.

king lear we live in a multi cultral society, and that means that we mix with all sorts, i do not judge a person by their differences, if none is harmed and all involved are concenting adults then what is the problem? i think a course in learning humility and love would be of benifit.

this post just says it all in my eyes, *sadly shakes head* i would like it left for all to see,

m

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by morguana

king lear we live in a multi cultral society, and that means that we mix with all sorts, i do not judge a person by their differences, if none is harmed and all involved are concenting adults then what is the problem? i think a course in learning humility and love would be of benifit.
this post just says it all in my eyes, *sadly shakes head* i would like it left for all to see,
m

What has "the multi cultural society" to do with the promotion of the aggressive homosexual ideology, especially on kids?
Blacks and Mexicans disapprove this agenda even more than Whites!

Originally Posted by morguana

i think a course in learning humility and love would be of benifit.
this post just says it all in my eyes, *sadly shakes head* i would like it left for all to see,
m

I could say the same to you orthodox Liberal!

You're such hypocrites! "Open-minded" my foot!
Everyone who isn't in line you ban!

And you always think that you are the better person.
Not sensing how self-righteous you're in fact!

For everyone who doesn't believe that people in the Project Avalon Forum
are so narrow-minded and behave like TPTB, which they alledgedly try to expose, will soon be disabused by my ban!

[raulduke]

Originally Posted by King Lear

Perhaps it happens in most species, but only in a part of thousandth, i.e. it isn't the norm, otherwise the species would be extinct!

And what astounds me is, that your 4 and 7 year-olds know of homosexuality and transsexuality. Woman have you no decency?
How can you burden children's minds with something like that?!?

All these homosexual-apologists!
What is next?
In 10 years pedophiles say that it is normal and part of the "diverse" human sexuality to be a pedophile. And then they come and make pressure on politics to be emancipated.

And what will you homosexual-apologists say then?
"That's disgusting!"???
Betcha
But then the pedos will say "Oh you're just a hater" "You discriminate us!" "It is fact that our bodies our own!" "Where is your compassion?"

And before some of you homosexuals and homosexual-apologists scream out after this analogy:
"Hey that's not fair! You compare us to pedophiles!"

think twice, because in this analogy the pedos would say the same:

"Hey that's not fair! You compare us to necrophiles!"

It's only a step further... and further... and further...

Everything made to destroy our traditions, families and our society.

Wow, your logic seems to be malfunctioning. I don't think I can continue to converse, so I'll leave you with a song. Peace.

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by raulduke

Wow, your logic seems to be malfunctioning. I don't think I can continue to converse, so I'll leave you with a song. Peace.

Of course you can't continue to converse and understand my arguments!
Because you fundamentally oppose me and you're unable to hold up a mirror to yourself.


As it is the problem for all self-righteous homosexual-apoligists and "open-minded" orthodox Liberal esoterics.
That's the way your brains are constructed, you can never understand an opposing or different opinion about that!

It's the same with theists and atheist, different brain developement.
And I don't mean that as a ranking, they're simply differently configured.

[raulduke]

Originally Posted by King Lear

Of course you can't continue to converse and understand my arguments!

Almost.

I can't continue to converse because I understand your argument.

You think gay people are icky and you're afraid because they're trying to destroy your family values.

I disagree.

I'm not calling for you to be banned btw.

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by raulduke

Almost.
I can't continue to converse because I understand your argument.
You think gay people are icky and you're afraid because they're trying to destroy your family values.
I disagree. I'm not calling for you to be banned btw.

No I don't think that gay people are icky per say!
But some are, the sexual extroverted and their political activists (as all political activists are icky) who want to force something on others which they don't want!

But I appreciate that you're not for banning a person with a different opinion!
Chapeau!

[Karen]

Originally Posted by King Lear

No I don't think that gay people are icky per say!
But some are, the sexual extroverted and their political activists (as all political activists are icky) who want to force something on others which they don't want!

But I appreciate that you're not for banning a person with a different opinion!
Chapeau!

It's not the opinion we ban for, but the attitude - are you being respectful to other members calling them coo-coo head?

[Karen]

I agree there's been a lot of social engineering going on - to destroy the family and on many fronts.

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[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Karen

I agree there's been a lot of social engineering going on - to destroy the family and on many fronts.

The nuclear family only existed for economic reasons.

I would argue that it's also social-engineering to expect women to stay home and raise the family while the man goes out and does the work.

How soon we forget that women were the brewers and workers when the men were off fighting their silly wars. Women deserve more respect than the nuclear family.

If you're going to complain about the destruction of the family, you should understand where the idea of the family comes from. It's all economic and nothing more. People get married to transfer wealth.

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

The nuclear family only existed for economic reasons.

I would argue that it's also social-engineering to expect women to stay home and raise the family while the man goes out and does the work.

How soon we forget that women were the brewers and workers when the men were off fighting their silly wars. Women deserve more respect than the nuclear family.

If you're going to complain about the destruction of the family, you should understand where the idea of the family comes from. It's all economic and nothing more. People get married to transfer wealth.

Interesting, that you "open-minded" "spiritual" esoterics coldly indicate the family as a unit which exists only to transfer wealth.
What a joke!
A family is certainly much more! And a family never was a "nuclear" family, before 1968 a family had 3-4 or more children!

And it's also not true that a woman was treated badly in being part of a family, that she "deserves something better".
These are all false delusions of the 1968-era.

Every woman who is part of a family, head of a family and has given life to children has done thousand times more than every
female attorney, female judge, female professor, female politician...

Because the mother ensures the survival of our human kind!
That's thousand times more than every bra burner could achieve!
What has the successful but childless female judge, politician, etc. at the end? Nothing, only loneliness and the certainty that with her, her branch of life will die out.


So, all this smearing about the family is false.
We've to return to the traditional family! All the social models like the "patchwork family" produce just dysfunctional pseudo families!

Let your common sense decide:
When was it better? 50 years ago with the traditional family or since 1968 with all these social models which do not work, especially homo-marriages and homo-families?

I choose the yesterday. Those were the days...*sing*



And another point about the homo-marriage, they always say that they're discriminated because they cannot do what heteros can do.
But technically that's not right!
A lesbian woman can marry a man, and a gay man can marry a woman.
So, they can do exactly the same as heteros can do!

Heteros are also not allowed to marry same sexes.
So, they're treated equally. Technically.

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by Karen

It's not the opinion we ban for, but the attitude - are you being respectful to other members calling them coo-coo head?

"coo-coo head"?!?
Is that such a dramatic profanity?

And I think I only used it in a generalized sense, not a personal.

Otherwise, you're free to delete or to defuse such "bad" words