Excuse Me!!!!

[ellie]

Originally Posted by Samarkis

In regards to "In the Mists".........

That is our calling it a "cool down" period.........

There has been some issues of late that have caused quite a few mods to
be caught up in those issues and their responses were not helpful in keeping the peaceful atmosphere that is expected of Avalon Moderators.

For those that have issues with it.......that is yr opinion & somewhat yr right at this "old" Avalon.

HOWEVER, the New Avalon will be having higher ethics and standards of interacting with others.......Many may not be asked to join......Avalon2 will be for lightworkers and those that invision positive,tolerant community building and are willing to give of their time & wisdom in a team effort to help their communities in Realtime projects.........of every scale........thru-out the globe.

It is our hope this starts to clarify some of the changes that Avalon will be embracing......

In Light!
Samarkis
Moderator

Your joking right, this has to be a joke.

Oooh God, I am being surrounded by clouds. Run for the hills.

[no caste]

Originally Posted by Samarkis

In regards to "In the Mists".........

That is our calling it a "cool down" period.........

There has been some issues of late that have caused quite a few mods to
be caught up in those issues and their responses were not helpful in keeping the peaceful atmosphere that is expected of Avalon Moderators.

For those that have issues with it.......that is yr opinion & somewhat yr right at this "old" Avalon.

HOWEVER, the New Avalon will be having higher ethics and standards of interacting with others.......

So it never was about truth. I'm glad ["2"] is invite only. That will solve the ongoing problems, won't it? No interlopers, nice and organized. No riff raff, like the government or sweet hits.

I'm glad that you agree that people who built that which is now worth having may have a piece to say. It HAD been about sharing information, not giving it from .... that place.

Higher ethics, and so many questions now.

[Samarkis]

So Glad that many of you understand self responsability.....

And civic duty..................

: )

Much Light!!

[777 The Great Work]

There's nothing new under the sun.Like trying to find new water in a infinite ocean.

TIC TOC

[Linda]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

Yeah run away while you can Carmen! It's a sinking ship!
The good old Avalon days are gone!

Yep, the NEW Avalon is here.

Originally Posted by Samarkis

In regards to "In the Mists".........

For those that have issues with it.......that is yr opinion & somewhat yr right at this "old" Avalon.

HOWEVER, the New Avalon will be having higher ethics and standards of interacting with others.......Many may not be asked to join......

Higher ethics?

Valued members may not be asked to join?
Interesting.......

[Samarkis]

Yep, the NEW Avalon is here.



Higher ethics?

Valued members may not be asked to join?
Interesting.......

Dear Linda.....If you quote someone....pls do not change emphasis in the quote.....(as in my words, pls)

Those that are asked to join in Avalon 2 will be asked to participate beyond just the internet.....Your choice in putting the words "valued members" in- is yr opinion.....Not mine or Avalon.

Yes, Avalon 2 will be asking people to participate more than just internet....what a concept, huh??? AND, Actually make some positive change!!

Much Light to all!!
Samarkis
Moderator

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by Samarkis

HOWEVER, the New Avalon will be having higher ethics and standards of interacting with others.......Many may not be asked to join......Avalon2 will be for lightworkers and those that invision positive,tolerant community building and are willing to give of their time & wisdom in a team effort to help their communities in Realtime projects.........of every scale........thru-out the globe.

It is our hope this starts to clarify some of the changes that Avalon will be embracing......

In Light!
Samarkis
Moderator

you mean pretty much as it was when it was a paid subscription and pretty much what the original intent was for Avalon?

LL&P

Z

[Samarkis]

Zeddo.....

Avalon 2 will be free subscription, however the feel will be like when we were paid subscription in that serious minded & responsable people will be interacting and helping with real time community projects of every scale,each according to their talents and resources....and most definitely with the original intent!!!

Much Light & Love!!!

Samarkis
Moderator

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by Samarkis

Zeddo.....

Avalon 2 will be free subscription, however the feel will be like when we were paid subscription in that serious minded & responsable people will be interacting and helping with real time community projects of every scale,each according to their talents and resources....and most definitely with the original intent!!!

Much Light & Love!!!

Samarkis
Moderator

Dear Samarkis
I can see the point of that, my only concern is that it sounds a little elitist.
I and many others have tried to lift the vision of some who seemed stuck in victim consciousness with out even realizing they were in it, and I know that sounds judgmental, but I spent great deal of my life there myself and without the help of others I would still be stuck in it.
It would be very easy to form a lovy forum and yes thats the true world but we aren't there yet, people need example and im not saying Im one, to be lifted out of negativity.
Regards
Chris

[Samarkis]

Chris! Blessings!!

I know of the concern some may have ....however, I believe that once
the New Avalon has opened.....many of those concerns will fall away.....

There is also plans for an outreach program to educate & enlighten
others with a panel of spiritual teachers......( of course still honoring free will choices )

I send all much love & regards.....

Samarkis
Moderator

[Samarkis]

Also..........

What has been a positive and great success here, will most assuredly continue at Avalon 2..........(Key word...positive!!! ) : )

In Light!

[greybeard]

Chris! Blessings!!

I know of the concern some may have ....however, I believe that once the New Avalon has opened.....many of those concerns will fall away.....

There is also plans for an outreach program to educate & enlighten others with a panel of spiritual teachers......

I send all much love & regards.....

Samarkis
Moderator

Thanks for your reply Samarkis

I can see the sense of it.
Namaste

[Floyd]

The idea of a panel of spiritual consultants is an interesting one. Simlar in ways to the elitist philosopher kings in Plato's ideal state. I wonder what qualifications or qualities one needs to be such a guide and who decides that such qualities in a person are sufficient.
At university I studied cults and new religious movements and it is always interesting to see the trends in place before such a movement is born.
Avalon 2 may be practically focussed which is a good intent and may work..Then again it may not.

[Harper]

Very few will I suppose but anyway

Are you listening to this folks? A panel of spiritual teachers
What will the teachers tell us? i wonder whay will we be able to follow, will there be twists and turns and omg moments? But we will have Love and Light, we'll be fine, everythings fine

Nothing to see here-- move along

[justpeter]

Originally Posted by Harper

Very few will I suppose but anyway

Are you listening to this folks? A panel of spiritual teachers
What will the teachers tell us? i wonder whay will we be able to follow, will there be twists and turns and omg moments? But we will have Love and Light, we'll be fine, everythings fine

Nothing to see here-- move along

Oh, oh Harper. I think you may be going "In The Mists" for that

[pilgrim]

Originally Posted by Harper

Very few will I suppose but anyway

Are you listening to this folks? A panel of spiritual teachers
What will the teachers tell us? i wonder whay will we be able to follow, will there be twists and turns and omg moments? But we will have Love and Light, we'll be fine, everythings fine

Nothing to see here-- move along

Interesting that you should say that, Harper.
It would appear that if you question or have a different perspective, then you will not be asked to follow the shepherd to the next meadow.

[Floyd]

I find the ethos of Avalon 2 very disturbing and ethically flawed. The notion that a few chosen gurus will be guiding a limited selection of people for exclusive communites demonstrates a profound lack of spiritual understanding. It nurtures a thought form of superiority, separateness and is discriminatory by nature. The need for action should be applauded but not in this blinkered manner. Personally I have my own plans and I will not be taking part in any such community run by these comedians. Shame on you. I once thought Project Camelot was a marvelous site. Sadly it has descended to an odious farce. Thats me off to the mists then? If we are to follow Hegel's notion of limited free speech that is.

[artvision]

Originally Posted by Floyd

I find the ethos of Avalon 2 very disturbing and ethically flawed. The notion that a few chosen gurus will be guiding a limited selection of people for exclusive communites demonstrates a profound lack of spiritual understanding.

The evolution of the Avalon community, from ROUND TABLE, as an old stories chivalry form, where the ordinary knights have the same right to speak as the King has, we are going to evolve to a pyramidal structure of Enlightened Lightworkers, at the middle, a mass of un-lightened sheeple on the basis and who knows who on the top, which projects its views and agenda downwards.

Maybe this is the issue that are bothering the people that are intentional to leave the forum, or maybe their suffering will be spared, by the decision of the moderators , into not inviting in the new forum?

Maybe this forum was just an intermediary stage, just to filter in, just the docile and easy going people, the most needed yes-man, as for a maneuver mass, while those investigative, inquisitive and not easy letting go personalities, are to be excluded, as seem to be too much trouble making and hard to be controlled.

Maybe beginning of the end, has been planned to start, when I raised myself the alarm signal, on 15-Dec-2009 in the thread of:

Controlled auto-implosion of Avalon Forum?

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...t=18079&page=2

Originally Posted by artvision

I'm just wondering if this late "liberalization" of forum, wasn't just an insidious maneuver to auto-implode the AVALON FORUM, ordered by TPTB?

and I got so many negative and vindictive replays?

and afterwards I made something like a bitter prophecy, after my thread has been shutdown in no time, without reason, in:

Why you closed my thread Anchor? Demand Explanation, reactivation and apologies!
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...47&postcount=4
I said:
Thank you for support, Burgundia, now I'm 100% sure, this "liberalisation" is an stealth action to shudown the forum, by bringing cyber-thugs and "operatives" to take on honest folks on the forum.

Maybe the forum is too uncomfortable for them, or is a annoyance for the owners anyway. Judging by their many apparition on this forum, I'm pretty convinced, this is the case.

These are the last days of a free and enjoying forum as we experienced anyway. Sadly but truth!

Maybe many truth searching souls felt that already and the vibration they seek, is not the vibration that is lately offered.

Maybe we asked too much from others, while we offer less?

Maybe this last issue, could wake up some truthseekers, as all three from the clip, seems to suffer of arthritis or rheumatism:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20930

Maybe is just the pledge of the satanist Illuminati that are running things, that they are forced to tell the truth, before they are doing something to us, but even so, the truth told and shown in the face of the sheeple, the sheeple will not see, or even worst, WILL REFUSE TO SEE?

Maybe, in the line of up-mentioned pledge PC and PA, was Illuminati mouthpiece, for telling us what's going on, their style, 10% Truth and 90% dysinfo, from the very beginning, known been the fact they are seeking to control and guide the opposition? Something like AJ?

Maybe whistleblower with declaration that are "matching" one with another, then, after a while, not, to cause havoc and controversy and to complete move us from a deep down healthy thinking and analysis? Besides Jordan maxwell, I see no truthful whistleblower there (even him I'm not 100% sure!)

Lots of maybe, we will never know. But who will stop us to think and judge by the things happening, but always keep the mind open.

I'm truly hurt by the leave of such kind, beautiful souls as Mudra and other, it was a pleasure to meet and try to understand your thoughts and feelings. Thank you for all you offered us! Sorry if most of the time I've been perceived as a negativist. Maybe because I'm too lucid and very difficult to be enthusiastic with nonsensical things.

The tool that is becoming our community, I do not know who will serve, most than sure, not us!

[swordsmith]

very good post artvision.
It's not at all negative to discuss what the problems are, show the lie and the level of. In fact, the Illuminazis want you to know their machinations and for you to back away , then you give permission by omission, lots of that much in evidence in rigid clinging to new age positivity. The CiA invented the bloomin new age, and know a few things about breaking down the ego, they have a LOT of experience and people love to self herd, so it works really well.

In fact it is using LIGHT of the highest order to shine awareness into the corners of darkness. This is actually the only thing TPTB are afraid of, exposure. Sometimes in the least expected places you encounter supression of the power this knowledge brings and most heirarchical players categorically do NOT want you to have freedom of discernment , we are seeing it all played out right here. They laugh in the face of the self castrating "turn the other cheek " and the "don't speak of the darkside" lite junky.
Be very afraid of any group clinging to one side of the polarity, it's just plain madness if not actually the makings of a cult , sadly the people who follow are manipulated by their deepest fears, which is really only their shadow, and the whole thing escalate/perpetuates. Which is EXACTLY what they want. It's like filing down the teeth of a healthy animal.

[greybeard]

I think it is best to give the new forum a chance.
Things have a life of their own.

Strangely enough Im not that fond of the idea of spiritual teachers. Enlightened ones yes but there are very few genuine ones.
If I quote a teacher on a thread, out of respect I will name the teacher, so I am pointing to something, a teaching or teacher, that I have personally found to work for me. I am not teaching I am sharing.

We are not in the celestial realms so any teaching, to my mind must reflect that we have real problems to deal with, it may be true that we are in an illusory world of duality but till we experience that personally we can reach for non-duality without the naivety of nothing but hearts and roses, everything having its place and yes we need to stop and smell the flowers too.

Regards
Chris

[lindabaker]

Originally Posted by greybeard

I think it is best to give the new forum a chance.
Things have a life of their own.

Strangely enough Im not that fond of the idea of spiritual teachers. Enlightened ones yes but there are very few genuine ones.
If I quote a teacher on a thread, out of respect I will name the teacher, so I am pointing to something, a teaching or teacher, that I have personally found to work for me. I am not teaching I am sharing.

We are not in the celestial realms so any teaching, to my mind must reflect that we have real problems to deal with, it may be true that we are in an illusory world of duality but till we experience that personally we can reach for non-duality without the naivety of nothing but hearts and roses, everything having its place and yes we need to stop and smell the flowers too.

Regards
Chris

Greybeard, as usual, you have words of wisdom that I truly value. Thank you. By the way, I also wanted my friends to remember that I'm Lindabaker, and not Linda, another Avalon poster of late. Just to avoid confusion! Love to all. LB

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by lindabaker

Greybeard, as usual, you have words of wisdom that I truly value. Thank you. By the way, I also wanted my friends to remember that I'm Lindabaker, and not Linda, another Avalon poster of late. Just to avoid confusion! Love to all. LB

Thanks Lindabaker.
Just seems common sense to me.
No point in being judge and jury before the "crime" is committed
God help me for my sense of humor.

. Think we can all be a bit wary when we are loosing something that has served us well in the main and moving into uncharted waters,

Anyway LB time will tell.

Chris

[Shairia]

I remained silent long enough this topic of PA2 while attractive to some bothers me. Invitation only to lightworkers? A real lightworker would never call attention to themsellf or want to be labelled as such. The choice comes from the heart and manifest in a variety of ways through actions and intentions and a desire to complete the mission they chose to enter this matrix.

No spiritual teacher is necessary they were born with all the knowledge they required to perform their mission. It is a soul decision and cannot be taught or should not be used as a social clique to rid one of the guilt they have due to their own actions and ignorance while on this planet.

This proposal to draw up lists scares the crap out of me. I seem to remember another chap doing something similar in Germany prior to WW2.

Good luck with your little games the real lightworkers will still be out there and do what they have come here to do.

I've seen too much on this forum that disturbs me including excessive egos and paranoia. It seems to me that IN THE MYSTS is the place to be these days where honesty and truth prevail. Maybe those who reside there should start their own forum with that in mind.

[Nebula9D]

Originally Posted by Shairia

I remained silent long enough this topic of PA2 while attractive to some bothers me. Invitation only to lightworkers? A real lightworker would never call attention to themsellf or want to be labelled as such. The choice comes from the heart and manifest in a variety of ways through actions and intentions and a desire to complete the mission they chose to enter this matrix.

No spiritual teacher is necessary they were born with all the knowledge they required to perform their mission. It is a soul decision and cannot be taught or should not be used as a social clique to rid one of the guilt they have due to their own actions and ignorance while on this planet.

This proposal to draw up lists scares the crap out of me. I seem to remember another chap doing something similar in Germany prior to WW2.

Good luck with your little games the real lightworkers will still be out there and do what they have come here to do.

I've seen too much on this forum that disturbs me including excessive egos and paranoia. It seems to me that IN THE MYSTS is the place to be these days where honesty and truth prevail. Maybe those who reside there should start their own forum with that in mind.

There lots of good points everyone has made regarding all this. Shairia, I agree with you 100% on this one.

[Debby]

Originally Posted by Samarkis

Zeddo.....

Avalon 2 will be free subscription, however the feel will be like when we were paid subscription in that serious minded & responsable people will be interacting and helping with real time community projects of every scale,each according to their talents and resources....and most definitely with the original intent!!!

Much Light & Love!!!

Samarkis
Moderator

Can you tell me how you know what my talents and resouces are?
Love debbyxxx