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Sorry for these terrible experiences. I totally agree with you that mind control is more of a 'procedure' that breaks the individual's mind into compliance. I agree too that this can be done successfully on every individual independently of their genetic heritage... Quote:
This is why you see many world leaders having the same blood ancestors. Regarding my post, i was reporting what i understood of Swerdlow's work. And by the way, he could help you A LOT if you are in need. I am quite sure at one point he told that people with dark complexion are 'harder' to manipulate for some reasons. If we take a look at 'native' tribes all around the world, a lot of them have a 'darker' complexion. These tribes are well connnected with the Earth energies, and know how to work with them in wisdom. That could be a good reason why they were exterminated 'en masse' by the PTBs over the ages. take care Last edited by BeaTnik-BandiT; 10-18-2008 at 04:03 PM. |
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Unless he means that by the "blond/redhead-breed" accepting the 'job' of oppressor, that means naturally they 'must' be under mind control... because it's unthinkable that anyone would choose such a path of their own free will... At least... THAT is what I see...'between the lines'
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Forgive me if I'm being too scientific but the world centres of conspiracy theory are California and Nevada so lot's of blondes and aeroplane blondes.
There are also many more blondes now that when I was a lad. Is is Aryanism? Fascism? (tremble) The Nazis? No it's hair dye which is great for covering up grey hair. I have brown hair and blue eyes being of irish and scottish descent and I've no plans to take over the world nor do I feel that my mind is controlled. |
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If clark's observation is correct, this thread raises a valid research question for all of us interested in the subjects of ufology, illuminati, and mind control. I am not experienced in these subjects. I was wondering if someone with in-depth knowledge could re-count the number of blond/redhead ppl from widely-known contactee/abductees? If there are indeed dispropotionally more blond/redhead in this group, it maybe a very important lead to disclose the alien and/or illuminati agenda. I am Chinese and I have yet to see some Asian abductees or contactees interviewed for their experiences. How about some Indians and Japanese, too? I mean we have quite big populations out there. Why not some of us?? At least give me some Asian American contactees, if the off-world beings prefer to abduct ppl in USA. ![]() Peace. |
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Clark Kent made a good question. It's very strange that the people involved with these kind of topics are blondes talking about alien blondes or bloodline obssessed conspirators. Come on, now everybody is descendent of some frigging royalty! And there's Alex Collier and the likes who insist on this "bloodline" royalty nonsense.
It's rather strange this insistence in certain characteristics, not only about the contactees/abductees themselves, but also from the supposed "aliens". |
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Very interesting topic.
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This IS a very interesting topic. I think it boils down to blood type personally. The rh negative blood type appears to have some interest for the reptilian/Illuminati types. According to David Icke, it's the blood that enables the reptilians to hold human form. Arizona Wilder says in her interview with Icke that certain people are able to control the reptiles that come through in the Satanic rituals she was forced (through mind control) to perform.
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While Clark poses a intresting question I would respectfully disagree. Why ?
Survival, inclusion, economic opportunities, many other things which has little to do with ideologies is the reason why these people join these groups. It has nothing to do with race. The old saying applies here is not what you know is who you know. If my friend is a Free Mason and his economic status is better than mine then you join by association. Puerto Ricans are not consider "whites" the town I live in was founded by a Free Mason. Juncos named after Manuel Fernandez Juncos. Brainwashing, mind control is not 100% effective. Why ? I give you the examples of veterans many are against the war. Indoctrination and braiwashing is part of training a soldier to loose his or her fear in order to pull the trigger and kill another person. The effects are not permanent , I rather solve an argument trough peaceful means. Self Defense is automatic, I just learn a new type of self defense less destructive. |
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"going to fast" why are you getting so offended? your really not reading my posts, your skimming them and having a knee jerk reaction. please READ my posts...i dont know how you could interpret it as me slandering blondes or saying everyone of them is mind controlled. i shouldnt have to re iterate this but clearly my intention is being wrongly received again ill copy and paste what ive already stated " well my intent with this thread was to try and figure out (if any) reasons there could be to the preponderance of blondes on both sides of the fringe circles ufology/new age vs illuminati/nazi and what if anything links them together somehow." is that understood? im not saying EVERY mind contolled victim is blonde or redheaded, nor am i saying EVERY contactee or EVERY spiritual leader is blonde blue eyed. clearly that is not that case (and i never implied such) credo mutwa and david icke are great but dont have anything to do with my observation. let me also state that our elected officials ARENT all blonde and blue eyed, nor was hitler or mengele. for everyone who is confused about what is written "between the lines" or the intent of my post, just read the first one again, i dont know how much more clear i can be. as far as my race/nationality/ethnicity-its all on my profile page as is my full name and age. do some digging eh? |
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I didnt know Marilyn was a montauk victim!! I figured she was an illuminati pawn cos of her connections to the U.S government but I have never stumbled across that. It m akes complete sense!! Ive done a google search and cant really find any info on it! has anyone got any links on this please?
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I think that you need to investigate secret societies such as the Thule society. There is an idea called "The Great White Brotherhood" (or something similar) from another society called the Golden Dawn, which is the same as the "Aryan" (one lead by the light) idea of the Thule Society. IIRC, Hitler and Himmler (and cronies) who were initiates of Thule believed that this was a race of people and were the ancestors of the Germanic peoples. Of course they were mistaken however it did not stop them from sending exploration teams as far as Tibet to enlist the Tibetan monks who shared a similar, although in metaphor, view of theology. The quests were based on the distorted view of that definition. They believed this subterranean race might be in Central Asia. The Thule society also happily took opportunity in the money that Hitler was willing to invest in technology to win the war, just as the industrialists in Germany did too. Despite the image of evil that Hitler represents, his personal fallibility was used by these parties to serve their ends too. Hitler was used as well. The New Age is not a recent idea either. This is a symbolic reference to a metaphysical idea. The core of this knowledge can be found in the "secret" societies. There is an analogue in all religions. It's a complex idea which is represented both on the personal and trans-personal realm and has lead to many arguments as to which definition is correct, but arguments for both sides are correct because the answer is in all. A question might be: What is the Old Age? If the New Age is foreign to you it might be that are now living in the Old Age. There is a link here between the New Age and the "Great White Brotherhood" or Aryan (noble) people. Hitler made a mistake in assuming that they were the ancestors of the Germanic peoples, he was trying to revive Germanic pride, so went to great lengths to find records of Germanic achievements in history. If the Thule society had communicated with entities, as is the normal practice of such societies, then whomever they did contact would be passed through a medium or channel. However the channel presents a problem in themselves, there exists a signal to noise ratio or a disparity between the source and the translator. So there is another noisy link when trying to trace who or what the Aryan race might be, that is assuming that the idea was of an actual race, but as the occult axiom goes, "As Above, So Below"... In this article, based on the genetic research of a hair from a "Nordic" ET placed the origins of a Asian genotype with Nordic phenotype. http://www.theozfiles.com/hair.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genotype The actual paper: http://www.cufos.org/strange_evidence.pdf Phenotypes are superficial and only skin deep. The genetic variance can differ, at times, greater within "races" than between them. Perceptions can distort the reality of what is being percieved and can in fact hold greater sway than that which is true. In such a place facts are a rare commodity. This is interesting because it is consistent with the believed origins of the Aryan "race." That is, in Central Asia, the Gobi desert. Hitler was heavily influenced with "The Coming Race" by Edward Bulwer-Lytton. So in his mind, this was indeed a reality. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vril It may be that what Hitler was lead to believe, before the advent of genetics, that what the channel's saw were "Nordic" features: blonde hair and blue eyes. This in turn leading into the crude and almost ludicrous skull measuring practice in ascertaining "Aryan-ness." This was also conducted in Tibet by the Nazi's with the Tibetans. On an off note, in genetics there is no such thing as a "white" race, it's a myth perpetuated to serve a particular end like with the Neo-Nazi's. It's an insecurity which leads to wishful thinking on the part of those who think that their genetic heritage is somehow superior and thus blinds them to the atrocities inflicted upon others who according to that viewpoint are inferior and thus deserving of any ill treatment. It's a simplistic and flawed idea where karma only flows one way, the mathematics of which are one equals zero. Hitler truly believed that what he was doing was justified, history shows us that he was wrong. ----- It could be that the ET intervention is aimed at those who are to serve a purpose in their respective societies. Societies that are perhaps at a pivot point where the changes they make impact globally on the life and well being of others. So, an agenda might be to create an influence in the problematic countries, and very vocal ones. It would serve no purpose to influence a pygmie in Papua New Guinea because his life may indeed be more sympathetic to the earth and his voice would not be taken seriously in one New York minute. Of course, this is supposing that there is demographic evidence that such superficial traits are qualified. It is very possible that the medium that has constructed the dataset itself may be the reason why. |
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...from what I know superficial racial markers aren't important (hair, eyes etc). There is some weighting in favour of only children however who tend to (in loose general terms) be aware of their 'otherness' at a very early age.
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Looks like sb is trying to bring some discord here. I have blue eyes but dark hair? What am I? Bad or good. makes no sense.
I must admit I had a few dreams that came true and my intuition never fails me. Am I being mond-controlled? |
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I've also read the Billy Mier info.. beginning back in the early 90s and when I listened to Miriam's take on her ET experience a few things began to click for me. I don't really know if I trust the Plaidians. And I wonder if it was the Plaidians (the Nordic looking aliens who started the genetic altering). And then there is the whole issue as to their real relationship with the Reptiians and the greys. From what we've been told by a number of credible witnesses the greys and Reptilians work together. And I recently listened to a so-called Palaidian message where it does appear that they may also work with the Reptilians. So..I'm now re-evaluating this whole ET situation from several perspectives.. one as my own ET experience, two from the many reports of those who have been "taken" and three, from those who were invited and have total conscious recall like Alex Collier whom I've also personally spoken with. When discussing mind-control one has to go back to the ultimate beings/creatures/ETs who have mind-control down to a very fine art. From what I've read regarding MK ultra and the personal testimony of a friend who was being groomed to become one of the higher ups of a Satanic group (which did fracture her personality through horrific child abuse and it was her strong spiritual connection to god which got her through all of that), one type of mind control, on the grossest level is done through early childhood "abusive" conditioning. However, the ETs have methods of mind controlled just with telepathy... while the military has all types of gadgets and drugs they can use. The whole issue of mind control is exceptionally complex because where does one start? Does one begin with the ETs? Or does one begin with MK ultra? Does one expand into Religion and the role it played? Or does one focus on the cultural context? Does one look at how the media uses mind control for advertising... ? Or does one start with what Stewart Swedlow had to share from his own personal experience. I do have some very strong opinions which are newly forming about some of this and I'm of the opinion if I were to choose which ETs to be associated with I'd go with who Dr. Greer is connected up with and/or Alex Collier's ET friends. And I will share that any ET "race" that blocks memories is a group I would not trust. All of the contactees that I've known personally, or read about, who had positive experiences had total conscious recall and were invited, not taken, if they went aboard a ship. For now, mind-control is my rule of thumb regarding what I do know about ETs. If they use it on humans they're up to no good. That is why Miriam's interview was a bit disturbing to me. I felt she was telling the truth, but that she was holding back other information. I also thought it was the Plaidians whom were her contacts and she did describe not remembering info. That was a red flag for me.
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I went to Dictionary.Com for this definition:
Cau·ca·sian 1. Anthropology. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of one of the traditional racial divisions of humankind, marked by fair to dark skin, straight to tightly curled hair, and light to very dark eyes, and originally inhabiting Europe, parts of North Africa, western Asia, and India: no longer in technical use. 2. of or pertaining to the Caucasus mountain range. 3. of or related to the non-Indo-European, non-Turkic languages of the Caucasus region. –noun 4. Anthropology. a member of the peoples traditionally classified as the Caucasian race, esp. those peoples having light to fair skin: no longer in technical use. 5. a native of Caucasia. In regards to reincarnation, it is my understanding that souls that wish to "challenge themselves" to learn & grow in breadth & scope, incarnate (on this earth, for instance), under more challenging circumstances than a life of easy circumstances. Perhaps, one would be poor, blind, physically or mentally handicapped, lose a love one prematurely, or be a TARGET of abuse or mistreatment for whatever reason. Rise, rise, rise to the "challenge", with dignity & poise...& thus will you reap just rewards. Also if some people are "SO SUPERIOR" in some respects are "they" also responsible (because of their high positions of power, leadership & authority) for screwing up this planet so much? Whatever...What do I know? I'm just a tiny black dog. |
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well my intent with this thread was to try and figure out (if any) reasons there could be to the preponderance of blondes on both sides of the fringe circles
ufology/new age vs illuminati/nazi and what if anything links them together somehow. i dont imagine the blonde or redheaded women on the forums would "tar and feather" me because there is no reason to, im not saying anything offensive- im pointing out that blondes/redheads seem to be at the forefront in this field both on the "good" and "bad" sides. if anyone has links to info on why this might be then thats great, im not trying to make this a "blondes vs everyone else" thread. as far as indigenous peoples geting what they deserve karmically speaking, (them deserving rape,murder,torture, genocide etc) well to be honest no one really knows if thats exactly how "karma" works - thats not a "truth" its an opinion on how it works. would you propose explaining to dying africans "hey guys, ya blew up yer planet-sorry you have to butchered and get aids now" if thats the case why not exteriminate them completely since they were so bad in their last life, whats wrong with guantanamo torture, apparently they deserve it! did the jews blow up a planet too? howbout the native americans? how do you propose dick cheney's next life will be like? if he got a cushy existence this time around full of privilege and wealth then that means he "earned" it in his last life right? how is it that he can get an easy life this time, then have done so much evil, then in the next life he'll be punished? is that how karma works? like a yo yo of "i did good, i did bad". thats like going to 6th grade, then getting demoted to 5th for doing something stupid, then getting to 6th again through being good, then going back to 5th if you screw it up again. i have a hard time believing the universe works this way. anyhow im off topic. ps-heres my favorite blonde on the "good" side http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95AEzyWZX8I Last edited by clarkkent; 10-17-2008 at 05:30 AM. |
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As a child, I was blond (more like snow-white) with blue eyes.
The ironic thing is that I am actually Native American and identify as such. Both parents have strong characteristics of Native Americans (brown skin, black hair). I no longer have blond hair (haven't for years) and am going bald. Brother is the same way. We both have a similar skin tint as our parents that will probably darken as we get older. I started losing my hair around the same age my grandfather starting losing his (Age 22) and he had blond hair. Last edited by Humble Janitor; 10-17-2008 at 05:39 AM. |
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CREDO MUTWA - Distinguished African Shaman knows the TRUE HISTORY of AFRICA. CREDO MUTWA has dark features. He reveals not all Africans have BLACK hair. Some have RED HAIR. He explains how "outside" (alien to this planet) forces infiltrated humanity by interpopulating with races of all kinds on this earth. Thus, perhaps, the source of OUR psychic & intellectual attributes & spiritual connections.
Can anyone, intelligently, explain the reason for the different physical features of people all over the earth? In the north, for example, why are some people white-skinned w/light hair/eyes while also others in another part of the globe (in the north) are white/yellow-skinned w/dark eyes. There are plenty of non-white spiritually, psychically, intellectually gifted people on this earth. Credo Mutwa has interacted with all types of INDIGENOUS PEOPLES throughout the world. He is highly esteemed by DAVID ICKE who is GRAY-SILVER-HAIRED & BLUE-EYED. |
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You certain HAVE brought up an interesting thought/thread! I know that many have looked into this too, but no-one REALLY has come up with more than what most of us has read. I am a Red-Head, Green eyed with Aryan/Celt hereditary, so as you can see, why I find your question/thread of interest, as I too have often pondered this very thing. Are these types of humans more/or less easily controlled? I dont know, sometimes it seems they are and others it seems they arent. I think it may all boil down to how Emotional you are, as when you manipulate people's emotions many barriers can be brought down. What do you think/feel on that Clark? Cheers Opal |
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clarkkent , as you might have understood by now I´m a red-head with green eyes, and as almost all red-heads I´m hot-tempered. I might have misunderstood your intentions with this post, I hope your intentions are good. I as many other red-heads have some psychic abilities, I do not have any control over them and I have never tried to developed them and I don't think I ever Will, believe it or not but I also have ET-experiences, this I will not go into.
clarkkent, I am not here to pick a fight but I hope you can understand my point of view when someone is implying that I am a part of the "master-race" that is the oppressors of the humankind, I hope you believe me when I say that I do NOT want to be part of any master-race only the HUMAN-RACE. Peace Superman. |
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again i never implied that anyone race is a "master' one, im simply trying to figure out the common denominator between the fringe/ufology/inuitive/contactee field and why there are so many in the forefront of this field. also " "Any way what I'm trying to say is do you think I am being mind controlled?? ------no again people im not saying every blonde is mind controlled--ive said this repeatedly. as well as the "nordic blonde" "good" ET's and whatever connection to atlantis, the nazi's and MK ultra and why blondes/redheads seem to be the first choice in brainwashing (theres speculation that maddona,brittany,kylie minogue,marlyn monroe, lindsay lohan are all victims of "monarch" programming) again dont get me wrong this is an observation, clealry there are many many strong willed for lack of a better word "good guy" blondes. im kind of repeating myself. Last edited by clarkkent; 10-20-2008 at 12:28 AM. |
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(I bet that Zorgon has a ton of info on Marlyn) Last edited by GoingToFast; 10-20-2008 at 12:53 AM. |
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http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/search?q=madonna http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...n+mind+control http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com...e-minogue.html http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula12chap.shtml http://thefreemanperspective.blogspo...nkgifanna.html http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...02004150073691 -k |
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