What if NOTHING will change?

[borrasca2012]

............WE JUST HAVE TO LEARN FROM HISTORY and make it better

""next time "".....hope really THAT THERE WILL be


BIG BIG SILENCE !!!!!! in those "war-areas" soon..........

.....by the way, i read that IRAN was doing some nuclear

test....

.......I"m looking forward for WORLD-PEACE !!!!!!


........and think from me what u will, EVERYBODY has his story


FREE WILL FREE SPEAK FREE WORLD

[Jnana]

Back to the original question....

Given the rapid pace of change in the world, the idea of NOTHING changing between now and 2012 is an odd one. I assume the notion here is more along the lines of what if the world is not suddenly transformed to a new density or something like that, preceded by a healthy dose of natural and man-made disasters.

In fact, having made it through an October where I was expecting a major false-flag event and/or a period of economic collapse, I have had similar thoughts - what if 2012 is a big nothing? However, my first thought is to be very thankful that we made it through October! I think we dodged a bullet. But the game is still on.

I think it remains to be seen whether we will have a chaotic destructive transition followed by rebuilding, or a gradual transition to a peaceful world.

Climate change is still an issue. Economic problems are still an issue. An Isreal/Iran conflict leading to world war is still a possibility. Declining oil supplies are still an issue (even if Lindsay Williams is right). Suppression of knowledge about ETs is still an issue. Civil liberties are still being rapidly eroded. The chances of a peaceful transition to a sustainable system seem pretty slim to me, but I think it is still possible.

I have doubts about Dec. 21st, 2012 as a date for the same reason as I had doubts about Oct. 14, 2008. Sure, something big MIGHT happen. Then again, we could all just keep plugging away trying to make the world a better place one person at a time. We have free will. I'm inclined to think that focusing on a particular date in the future detracts from working on the problems here and now.

[Average Joe]

I don't really think that anything unusual will happen on 21st December 2012.

I think by then, people will be concentrating on other prophecies made betwen now and then.

It will be interesting to see peoples reactions on 22nd December 2012, on here.

I agree with some of the issues brought up by Jnana though.

[nivosh]

Thank you jnana for your insights...

[sylph16]

Originally Posted by nivosh

Hello dear friends.

There is a small but annoying thought that's cycling through my head lately.

What if NOTHING will happen?
What if Obama will get elected as scheduled, the economy will stay the same, no UFO will come to our rescue, 2012 will be just another day?

What if all this Forum and whistle blowers thing is just a fantasy, a dream?

This scares me most of all...
I would like very much your opinions on the matter.

love to you all...

Yes nivosh...I have been having the same thoughts lately...and while i am doing my best to PUSH those thoughts AWAY...i am feeling the creeping worm of doubt nevertheless...

I am going to attribute this to the frantic month of October...no real "surprise" to speak of, you can't really call the crash of the global economy a surprise, everyone saw that coming...yes the October 14 let-down was real...i felt it, even though i knew that the event could or could not happen...

It could be that the collective consciousness is experiencing this doubt...i am hoping that it doesn't last to long my friend...in the meantime i will continue to fight the impulse to give in to doubt...my spirit needs lifting, time to reconnect with nature, at least that's how i recharge...

peace

sylph

[dataeast]

I always thought that stasis was the scariest thing of all, the possibility that nothing would ever change. Change I welcome.

[Jacqui D]

Yes i have often wondered this myself, for me i need change this life is not what i want.
Everyday is a struggle because i can see through the whole charade.
Poverty goes on, starvation, wars, death, births peoples perceptions of life and what they want from it send a cringe running up my spine.

For me life would have to be more peaceful, people would have to be more understanding to each other and the each and everyone of us more loving and giving.

[alternative-answer]

You're the change, we cannot change anyone or make them change, to see the change we want we need to change, go within, change you innermost fears and insecurities. www.joy2meu.com/Innerchildhealing.html

[firstfruit]

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

Yes i have often wondered this myself, for me i need change this life is not what i want.
Everyday is a struggle because i can see through the whole charade.
Poverty goes on, starvation, wars, death, births peoples perceptions of life and what they want from it send a cringe running up my spine.

For me life would have to be more peaceful, people would have to be more understanding to each other and the each and everyone of us more loving and giving.

I concur totally we are two of many awakening lights


Our way of life humanities way of life humanities belief system it’s all engineered it’s been engineered for eons of time.

The charade is thinning to the existent we can now see the beast hiding within the system.

What lies cheats deceives and murders us and has done throughout history

Do you really need to think about?

This is not life its abuse its slavery its ending can you feel it the darkness is over.

The countdown to 2012 look around you what do you see buckets of. They are cashing in everything our governments care not what you see or what you hear your hatred your anger its encouraged.

We are all witness to the death throws of the beast our evil fear based system.

“Humanity and mother earth are becoming help us to become for our highest and our best good and for all concerned”

Lak-ech

[blastawaycas]

Well if nowt happens.........all well and good.........because we don't want it too........but what we will be is a bit more educated forewarned so therefore forarmed for any other such future happening........a few red faces are better than billions of dead faces.......we can give ourselves a pat on the back for our collective positivity and preparedness it may just have turned the tide

keep your head down watch your back
only run when you have to!!

[LaRosa]

Borrasca2012, this is totally right.

I prepare for the worst but hope for the best. First I make the changes inside me, in a way to find myself in a win/win situation. Whatever happen or not, i do all that is possible to make my life interesting. Theses probable events are just that, probability.

I'm not afraid of death, I'm a active person... anything goes or not, it's fine with me. Things are changing everyday.

[ABHA]

Originally Posted by nivosh

Hello dear friends.

There is a small but annoying thought that's cycling through my head lately.

What if NOTHING will happen?
What if Obama will get elected as scheduled, the economy will stay the same, no UFO will come to our rescue, 2012 will be just another day?

What if all this Forum and whistle blowers thing is just a fantasy, a dream?

This scares me most of all...
I would like very much your opinions on the matter.

love to you all...

Hi, what is important is to be prepared, then for any kind of emergency or sunny day, you will be ready.
The fact alone you are having these thought is a strength in itself, most people really do not have a clue about the universe they exist in.
have a great day
healing and peace

[JoshG_528hz]

first off, i have a problem with people thinking that a ufo or messiah or anything is going to come to our rescue. that just breeds victim consciousness. I, for one, am not a victim. I share the responsibility of our situation with every human on the planet. Nothing is anyone's fault. It's everyone's fault. But fault is not important. Blame does not matter. I don't blame the politicians or the illuminati or the freemasons. I don't hate the people that manipulate the 'masses'. We all share the same responsibility. The search for truth, to gain all knowledge and turn it into wisdom through understanding. To elevate the consciousness of this planet. To live the life of love.
As for all of this 'being a dream or fantasy', there is no doubt in my mind that it is not. I don't know about 2012 or martial law or anything really. Belive everything while believing nothing. The fact is that a small group of people attempt to control the thoughts of the population of earth to further their own adjendas, whatever they may be. And by the way, they are pretty damn good at it.
If this was all a farce, none of this was real, it's all a fantasy, i would feel EXTREMELY good. If this was all made through the minds of "conspiracy theorists" and they were ALL wrong, I would be happy. I would be glad to find that out.
All in all, I am not scared. I do not fear the future. I do not fear the unknown. I strive to know the unknown. To gain all knowledge.

I live the life I love and I love the life I live.

[capreycorn]

something will happen.
a lot of things happen every day. a slight increase in "events" might not be alarming. . the big expected change will come. it doesn`t have to happen all at once like in the movie "the day after tomorrow".
even if we had a pole shift for example there will still be those who won`t be badly affected and not think of it as big catastrophe for their own "little cosmos". (maybe not even taking much notice of the big bummer..these could be some mountain people already living on their own steam because they don`t have the choice..they could hear some horrifiying news on their old radio and just think "now they`re really exagerating!")while for others it could be the end of the world. (those living in florida for example..when the life they had is washed away and underwater)
for some, "end of the world" is already now..(some stock market people already voiced this and it was reported in the media)..for others it isn`t the end and never will be. for some of us it will be the beginning of the life we always wanted and the change towards it might even be happening too slowly for some .....

[becky]

Hi Nivosh,

Good question. I know what you mean. We've seen many predictions come and go without a payoff so to speak. Surely, a lot of things that we read and hear about are NOT going to happen. And many of them will not happen to us personally.

BUT, everything is constantly changing. We know through quantum physics that things change simply by being observed. So this universe is constantly expanding and changing.

However, for some reason, as humans, we tend to want the immediate gratification or confirmation of something. And we rarely get that. Just like for most of us, we make changes in our life slowly. Changes in our spirit, mentality, physicality, etc. These all take time. In the same way that a tides ebb and flow smooths out a rock.

Occasionally there are events that seem to come out of the blue that are huge and startle us and impact the globe: 911, natural disasters, assasinations, etc. But for the most part, it's a little here and a little there.

So, although, in my opinion, changes do seem to be speeding up a bit, the transformation and transition to a NEW AGE of love and compassion (if that is what you are referring to?) will not happen with a big bang.

But then again, as I've said in other posts, the more I learn, the less I feel I know.

Love and Haagen-Daaz,
Becky

[alternative-answer]

Originally Posted by nivosh

Hello dear friends.

There is a small but annoying thought that's cycling through my head lately.

What if NOTHING will happen?
What if Obama will get elected as scheduled, the economy will stay the same, no UFO will come to our rescue, 2012 will be just another day?

What if all this Forum and whistle blowers thing is just a fantasy, a dream?

This scares me most of all...
I would like very much your opinions on the matter.

love to you all...

It's already changed, the light has been shone on the people that have hidden in the shadows, they are now fully exposed and have no hiding place. This has been challenging for people because of the suddenness of such information coming into peoples psyche. People are naturally afraid but feel powerless to do anything feeling overwhelmed by it all. Find as much information as possible, filter out what does not sit with you, find your own truth, more importantly find out who you truly are, realise your true self, release your fears anxieties and insecurities, realise that you are the power in all of this, take back your power, take ownership of your life your experiences, your behaviours, reactions and responses, where are they coming from. Do not blame, blaming makes you a victim of your circumstancs and gives someone or something else the power to affect you. Get informed, stay informed, spread the word.....

[freekatz]

Originally Posted by nivosh

Hello dear friends.

There is a small but annoying thought that's cycling through my head lately.

What if NOTHING will happen?
What if Obama will get elected as scheduled, the economy will stay the same, no UFO will come to our rescue, 2012 will be just another day?

What if all this Forum and whistle blowers thing is just a fantasy, a dream?

This scares me most of all...
I would like very much your opinions on the matter.

love to you all...

I woke up the other morning with the EXACT same thought, I almost wrote a thread about it as I felt I'd had a great revelation then I thought "why bother, no one will be interested" ...sort of apathetic. Maybe it's some giant subliminal message that's being sent out.

[Shadowstalker]

Sooner or later folks have doubts on almost anything that comes there way, this is not uncommon

[whitecrow]

Originally Posted by nivosh

Hello dear friends.

There is a small but annoying thought that's cycling through my head lately.

What if NOTHING will happen?
What if Obama will get elected as scheduled, the economy will stay the same, no UFO will come to our rescue, 2012 will be just another day?

What if all this Forum and whistle blowers thing is just a fantasy, a dream?

This scares me most of all...
I would like very much your opinions on the matter.

love to you all...

Hello Nivosh,

You've brought up a very important point. Y2K was a bust. The aliens didn't uncloak their ship on 10-14. We haven't invaded Iran. There's hasn't been another 9/11. Holy moly, what if it's all just......gratuitous drama? How dumb would we feel?

First of all, you've changed haven't you? I know I have. So we can't say nothing's changed. What's changed is that the Internet has put people all over the world together for the first time in history - and that's a huge change all in itself. What we've learned is that people want virtue. People understand that virtue is what will change things, and they understand that virtue is pretty much totally lacking in politics, business and even religion worldwide.

What if the Forum and the whistle blowers are just a dream? Life is just a dream, my friend. That's not what scares me...what scares me is the idea of me doing nothing. I ain't letting that happen.

[Steve_A]

Hi nivosh,

If nothing happens, all well and good. For those who stocked up on Spam will eat Spam for a few weeks.

The thing we need to ask ourselves is, "What if SOMETHING will happen?".

It costs virtually nothing to take precautions and if something did happen, those who sat on their hands would look rather foolish.

And let's look at least that could happen, members of this forum had the opportunity to 'meet' people of a similar thinking and philosophy.

It's a win win situation.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by nivosh

Hello dear friends.

There is a small but annoying thought that's cycling through my head lately.

What if NOTHING will happen?
What if Obama will get elected as scheduled, the economy will stay the same, no UFO will come to our rescue, 2012 will be just another day?

What if all this Forum and whistle blowers thing is just a fantasy, a dream?

This scares me most of all...
I would like very much your opinions on the matter.

love to you all...

[samncheese]

I think the point is how will you change? We don't need a great shift in the universe to be enlightened. work out your Karma yourself, you have to do it sooner or later. This is the point the alarmist have all missed, it doesn't matter what the world does if your at one with the universe.. The phrase "at one" has a word "atonment" means to be at one. The process of forgiving and accepting the world for what it is, brings this into focus and eventualy brings us peace. It takes the sting out of death and the fear out of life.

Be at peace