How Do You Feel About This Forum? (Avalon) - Page 2

Waterman · 11-02-2008, 08:54 PM

There are some statements that I disagree with that have been posted about this topic.

I believe there is a gap in realizing the relevance about politics by those that are not from the states. Although, political processes in the states are stolen, we are still passionately connected to the political process. For example to not speak of politics means to not talk about Gary McKinnon.

The united states waited till the extradition law existed before they started to bring him here. That is call "Ex Post Facto" a prohibition by our Constitution. In America, politics has historically been participatory. It is politics that is hiding the UFOs. It is politics that is hiding free energy. It is politics that is taking the worlds freedoms away. It is politics that is trying take the internet down. It is through politics that the robber barons steal from us all. It is unfortunately politics ad nauseum in an election year.

We then must remember this forum started very near the election process peaking in the states. The political statements of those in this forum are a natural manifestation of what is transpiring in the lives of Americans at this moment. AND the repercussions are going to be felt over the entire world. Whether "Americans" really do make the difference via voting is not what I'm talking about. The point is that it is a presidential election this year and the forum was started right before elections and that is on the minds of the people in the states, and the world for that matter.

In the meantime there are many different approaches to problems and everyone thinks their approach is worth voicing. New age thinkers say the answer to the problem is manifesting ones destiny. Others say we must not speak of evil that is fearmongering. A political activist is going to say the answer is changing the policies . An activist is going to say it is full disclosure.

All these type of people are on this forum persuading others to believe them. Yet it is important we realize that all these type of people exist and it is what it is. There will eventually be groupings in the forum and they will manifest what they want to do regardless of what the other groups want.

The bottom line will be how Bill and Kerry massage the forum to fit the goals they want to accomplish.

One of the massage techniques may be to make it subscriber based. That will IMHO remove those that see it as an adjunct activity. In the meantime nformation is being posted in Camelot freely.

Certainly the main goal, meeting up with like minded and preparing, is going to at least cost folks some gas money. And if there isn't enough interest they just won't spend that money. If they were to go subscription based, the tone of the forum would actually become more focussed. It is my opinion that charging is one way of putting the responsibility of "connecting with other like minded" in the hands of those willing to pay for it.

Thanks for asking.

2infinityandbeyond · 11-02-2008, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elephant Man

Agreed. This saves me a lot of writing

but will add that I personally cannot see why all the political threads are here. this was never meant to be a political forum, but it seems as though "free speech" means anything can be posted and accepted. I am generally against censorship, but really dont feel that politics belong here, we might as well start discussing sport. Now I am aware that people will say that politics affects the world situation etc... but what was the true purpose of Avalon? To unite in finding our way forward or something along those lines. Obama/mccain bashing does not fit in here and the continual negative political threads ar nothing but intentional trouble making. You wanna plug a politician or bash a politician? go elsewhere!

other than that little beef, rock on

Peace

Exactly!

We all know what religious and political discussions do, the divide us right down the middle. And its not just that, i see a lot of bashing going on. It happens on different levels, and sometimes it doesnt seem that conspicious at first but the end results can be very destructive.

To the guy who asked me wheres my evidence, im only giving you my observation of the forum. The evidence is everywhere if you look, and besides i dont wish to start naming names or singling out threads because that would just cause trouble.

Dadrious · 11-02-2008, 09:05 PM

"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." - Gandhi

Antaletriangle · 11-02-2008, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2infinityandbeyond

Exactly!

We all know what religious and political discussions do, the divide us right down the middle. And its not just that, i see a lot of bashing going on. It happens on different levels, and sometimes it doesnt seem that conspicious at first but the end results can be very destructive.

To the guy who asked me wheres my evidence, im only giving you my observation of the forum. The evidence is everywhere if you look, and besides i dont wish to start naming names or singling out threads because that would just cause trouble.

I agree entirely-when posts are made sometimes i feel a sense of "is someone going to have another dig at this one now!!" type of feeling and i/we shouldn't feel like this (as we don't have to search and give info. we find-it's freely given)-members should be a little more constructive with comment rather than downright rude with nothing to back themselves up;this forum is supposed to be about enlightenment not base behaviour-i think enlightenment is mostly encouraged here but there are always the 'know alls' who don't post much but attack vehemently when someone else sticks their necks out.I've made a few comments on this when i've witnessed 'attacks' on unsuspecting posters that are just providing info. from their angle.If there are disagreements which there always will be (human nature) then i think it's better to discuss politely and intelligently; always provide encouragement to the poster whilst maintaining/providing your own opinions and researches on the matter at hand-dead easy but too difficult for some it appears.Anyhow my rant for the day!LOL.
Keep posting everyone and be beautiful.

Antaletriangle · 11-02-2008, 09:16 PM

I like your angles Brinty!!Lol !!comparing it to a sex session that develops into a loving relationship.I'd like to have a beer with you sometime jack!lol.

Humble Janitor · 11-02-2008, 09:18 PM

Could be better. Not enough balance in certain areas. Too much negativity in Off-Topic.

Allie · 11-02-2008, 09:22 PM

I'm a girl, 2infintiy.

Where is the evidence? I say this in a tone of respectfulness.

Is it a view you have of the characteristics of a dis-info 'agent'? I may be wrong, but I'm honestly not sure this is reliable.

It just didn't gel with me that the evidence you appeared to cite was 'being friendly' , 'popular', 'freedom of speech', 'infestation'. Sure, I'd agree those can be 'tactics' - but they might equally mean a genuinely friendly, popular person who supports freedom of speech.

pineal-pilot-in merkabah · 11-02-2008, 09:27 PM

this forum is meant to be about how to form groups and help each other. i think there could be less cross posting. i think there is too much BS on here. this is meant to be about preparing physically and spiritually. i think we could cut down on the multiple threads of then same stuff, tighten it up a bit.. especially the ground crew forum .. it should be here to inform people of events that may or may not lead to futhter happenings. warnings,politics is not needed. ie zeitgeist pie in the sky horse ****

Humble Janitor · 11-02-2008, 09:30 PM

A lot of off-topic threads are moved to Project Camelot and as a result, this place doesn't seem to be TOO crowded with such stuff.

777 The Great Work · 11-02-2008, 09:34 PM

This forum is perfect, whole and complete
Everything flows, out and in; everything has its tides; all things rise and fall; the pendulum-swing manifests in everything; the measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left; rhythm compensates

Everything is Dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled.
By Correspondence

All natural effects are from spiritual causes. All is spirit

371 · 11-02-2008, 10:05 PM

Just an observation:
I think some people might be crying 'disinfo' when someone just doesn't agree with some of our 'common' beliefs.

Like someone who say... has no problem with a one world government? Then they post links and give reasons why they think it's not so bad. That's not disinfo, its a differing opinion. There's nothing wrong with that, I can't say I agree on that specific issue but I'm just using it as an example.

It's like the saying goes: "If two guys agree on everything, you can know that one of them is doing the thinking".

Pomguymguy · 11-03-2008, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 777 The Great Work

This forum is perfect, whole and complete
Everything flows, out and in; everything has its tides; all things rise and fall; the pendulum-swing manifests in everything; the measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left; rhythm compensates

Everything is Dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled.
By Correspondence

All natural effects are from spiritual causes. All is spirit

To be here is a privilege for me, on Bill and Kerry's 5* Forums. I got here from doing extensive research into health issues. My wife of 36 years has been dealing with a life threataning illness - so I wanted to know why there was not a 'cure' - I found answers, lots of alternative treatments that have been available for years and years- this lead me onto other cover-ups - and here we all are - all looking for the truth ? ( some maybe not so!)

We have so many people with expert knowlege in specialised area's that others are (were) totally clueless about. Many diffrent levels of being 'awake'
at many, many diffrent levels of 'Knowing"- I have not yet been able to upgrade my 'Knowing' to be able to have an OBE - many have. We all have that potential, so much work needs to be done.

There has been much Tit -for -Tat Ego Bashing going on - that is because we still have lots more to learn to get anywhere near the level we should already be at.
Don't forget we have been kept in a dumbed down state in so many area's of our lives. Lots of catching up to do, to be able to see the BIG PICTURE.
I have personally found so much very informative information here that I am sure you would not find in any other place on the net.
Maybe it would be a good idea to take a couple of days to reflect at where you are now, compared to when you first got to know about Bill and Kerry.

Some of the postings still seem rather silly, e.g. When someone makes comment about the 'Government' - So what 'Government' would that be then?
Do you mean the 'puppets' we see in the mainstream media ? - or do you mean the 'controlling forces' that prod the puppets with sharp sticks when they want them to jump ?

All the diffrence's of opinion just show how many of us are at various stages of learning who -what and why.

I just say to Bill and Kerry I am honoured and humbled by being able to be here in this moment and know that there are a few like minded souls (and not so like minded souls) bothering to pass on their knowlege, so we can all put into practice the real reason we ever came here on planet Earth at this time, and past times too.

If you are not sure what that is - then you too do not know 'everything' and need to do a bit more homework...

I am going back through some of the information I have "pulled off the Camelot/Avalon forums and it just blows me away !

But my overall perspective to life on Earth, and beyond, is very diffrent to how it was just a few short months ago.
I appologise to the one's higher up the ladder of learning, but us 'lower ranks' will all get there in the end, with each others help - thanks a bunch - ALL of you

Paul R time for a

Gnosis5 · 11-04-2008, 10:17 PM

The Great Work for myself and Hubbie is, in Phase 1, to discreate compulsions to be at one end of the pole or the other. Discreate "Karma".

Gnosis

Quote:

Originally Posted by 777 The Great Work

This forum is perfect, whole and complete
Everything flows, out and in; everything has its tides; all things rise and fall; the pendulum-swing manifests in everything; the measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left; rhythm compensates

Everything is Dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled.
By Correspondence

All natural effects are from spiritual causes. All is spirit

2infinityandbeyond · 11-02-2008, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allie

I'm a girl, 2infintiy.

Where is the evidence? I say this in a tone of respectfulness.

Is it a view you have of the characteristics of a dis-info 'agent'? I may be wrong, but I'm honestly not sure this is reliable.

It just didn't gel with me that the evidence you appeared to cite was 'being friendly' , 'popular', 'freedom of speech', 'infestation'. Sure, I'd agree those can be 'tactics' - but they might equally mean a genuinely friendly, popular person who supports freedom of speech.

Hey allie, hows bein a girl goin for ya? always wanted to be one for a day.

Well allie, i was making an observation. It wasnt a call to get everyone all paranoid, just stating that ive noticed quite a few people here who on the surface seem very cool people but over time, viewing their posts ive noticed a pattern of behaviour towords certain subjects that makes me feel somewhat suspicious.

I dont want to provide evidence of any kind, that would cause trouble because i could be wrong about certain observations. I was asked how i felt about the forum and thought id explain why i felt this way. Those traits i explained were just some of the things that aroused my supicion, i dont normally make my opinions so lightly.

Humble Janitor · 11-02-2008, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elephant Man

Agreed. This saves me a lot of writing

but will add that I personally cannot see why all the political threads are here. this was never meant to be a political forum, but it seems as though "free speech" means anything can be posted and accepted. I am generally against censorship, but really dont feel that politics belong here, we might as well start discussing sport. Now I am aware that people will say that politics affects the world situation etc... but what was the true purpose of Avalon? To unite in finding our way forward or something along those lines. Obama/mccain bashing does not fit in here and the continual negative political threads ar nothing but intentional trouble making. You wanna plug a politician or bash a politician? go elsewhere!

other than that little beef, rock on

Peace

Agree with you on the political threads. There are too many of them here and certain users do nothing but post them without contributing much else.

11-02-2008, 10:06 PM

Kevin,
It is my understanding, correct me , please, if I am wrong, that Project Avalon was created only to find safe places for people to live and resources and sites to be offered towards building safe communities. All other topics were to be left in Project Camelot forum. Perhaps, and this is only a suggestion, if all other categories were placed back in Camelot this would help.

Alexandra

khristmaskathy · 11-02-2008, 10:07 PM

I am one who really loves Project Avalon. I have visited other sites, but this is by far the best one! Most everybody is kind and one gets the feeling of belonging, so to speak. I enjoy hearing a variety of opinions , even if I don't agree, I still care what others think. The political threads do not bother me at all; we are about to experience an election for goodness sake. It's on the minds of everyone so it should be okay to express feelings about what is going on! Keep up the great work, Project Avalon, and thanks to everyone who posts! I have been a member since October 5th but it seems longer, because I am really comfortable on this forum.

Malletzky · 11-02-2008, 10:57 PM

Should we be honest? Well then, both PC and PA forum is a wonderful place where a human (or a wanderer, or whatever

) could learn his "missing" lessons. And we have so much to learn

.

No one here have the completely picture of what is happening to us. And therefore, I'm very proud to be around, as mostly, the members here are really nice and give their wisdom and knowledge to another.
Each one participate with their own thruth, and this is how we're gonna learn the WHOLE that IS!!!

But....

...as I allready mentioned in one of my previous posts
( check that here: http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...60557#post6055 ),

I have a feeling that there a few members here, who try to divide...

Trying to look "cool" and stating the own point of view as the ultimate truth is just leading to displeasure by others.

There are so many good threads around with realy good issues, which deserve to be discussed more then ever. But there are obvious some "big guns" around here which, if they don't like the subject (could be for many reasons), they just don't participate. If they don't participate, so other "friends" also don't. Or they post their ulimate thruts out there and there you have it, the thread "dies".

The displeasure could lead to resignation and members will go away to other forums.

Sorry for my honest words...

sunflower · 11-02-2008, 11:22 PM

By the time I got around to reading this thread I found that practically everything was said and well said at that. So all I can say at this point is that I look forward to reading the threads on Avalon and if I found one I don't agree with or dislike I just leave. I really prefer to pick up pertinent info and leave discussion to others. There's nothing wrong with discussion and for those members who enjoy it go to it. Just be friendly and polite. Don't jump on someone who is genuinely offering his or her personal testimonial. Don't belittle someone else just to feel a bit more justified in your own personal beliefs. Truth is relative depending on one's point of view.

So, Kevin, yes, I do enjoy this forum and what it stands for.

PodWORLD · 11-02-2008, 11:28 PM

I like the forum and I'm glad its here.

U think we need to remember that it's only a couple of months old and still working itself out. To be honest in the 'good old days' which were literally days ago there was a lot of fighting and disagreement so that's not new.

The forum was set up for reasons that wouldnt necessarily jive with the people it would first attract - Project camelot viewers - so some fracture is completely normal.

I think it's a shame that tongues werent sheathed more in regard to the 'witnesses' who helped create the interest and funds which in turn created this forum. Can't say I agree with some of them but it would be better if they were still on here I think.

As for disinfo agents I abhor this term as much as the dreadful 'sheeple'. These terms are thrown around and usually by experienced forum users which tells the story I think. Sometimes it's too easy to misunderstand a typed message and we need to chill out I think and be more forgiving too.

Reunite · 11-02-2008, 11:25 PM

I am very grateful for this forum as it has manifested great friends for me already. I have met over 10 members in person so far and share an unseen connection.

I have a question for Kevin or another mod in regards to the forum interface.

I use a PC at work and everything appears to remain the same. At home I use my mac and the interface has changerd only twice on random occasions to a white background with green lettering and a completetly different layout all together. Are you trialing a new interface or am I going nuts?

Gareth · 11-02-2008, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reunite

I am very grateful for this forum as it has manifested great friends for me already. I have met over 10 members in person so far and share an unseen connection.

I have a question for Kevin or another mod in regards to the forum interface.

I use a PC at work and everything appears to remain the same. At home I use my mac and the interface has changerd only twice on random occasions to a white background with green lettering and a completetly different layout all together. Are you trialing a new interface or am I going nuts?

The PHP script, from which this forum is written, reacts according to your browser type and operating system.

Certain functionality may or may not be available to any particular browser and may manifest itself in, what would seem to be, unusual ways such as layout.

Reunite · 11-03-2008, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth

The PHP script, from which this forum is written, reacts according to your browser type and operating system.

Certain functionality may or may not be available to any particular browser and may manifest itself in, what would seem to be, unusual ways such as layout.

Thanks Gareth I will throw out my medication now

TranceAm · 11-03-2008, 10:46 PM

Its a sanctuary.

clarkkent · 11-04-2008, 01:03 AM

i agree with the the truth shallsetyoufree and mr phi (as usual ,heh)

this forum is a different animal than it was during its inception.
mr phi's cartoon depicts the nature of the dichotomy here quite well.

there are some very spiritual smart savvy wise and informed people here and there are many more people who are none of those things.

the best one can hope for is to peruse the threads and look under "new posts" and hope theres some interesting info or a good discussion happening.

it IS a microcosm of what youd get in a physical groundcrew, though i do think people are a bit more respectful in person and certain info is more easily seen as false when you see whos delivering it.

i dont come here as much , except occasionaly and ive found

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/ to be just as enlightening

and the forums at
http://divinecosmos.com

to be good as well.

the one thing that bugs me a bit at camelot/avalon is that alarmist negative reports get so much attention.

st clair and wilcock both said that october wouldnt be as nutty as everyone was predicting (yes the financial turmoil is huge but not life wrecking for most of us)

look at the doom and gloomers who got all the attention
"hawkeye" who said america would be brought to its knees in early october and that there probably wouldnt even be an election, and of course dr deagle's prophet of the most high god of imminent nuclear war as well as george green. halfpast human's report got blown out of proportion as well with most people thinking total economic collapse would happen in october.---the fact is the election is tomorrow and most of us still have jobs and my coffee is still $2.oo.....and while that might not always be the case, fretting and getting worked up over "prophets" visions or "insiders" testimony of the "roths" destroying us, just plays into the fear game.

bill and kerry seem to be stuck between letting go and just letting their spirit guide them and know that this is all illusion and transition....and holing up underground like the military with hydroponics and being glad that they have money to separate them from the fates of the masses.

IMO camelot/avalon unfortunately caters to the inner survivalist/fear monger
while at the same time preaching "no fear" spirituality but the fact is apocalyptic visions and speculation gets everyones blood pumping, and calm rational discussion of "probabilites" does not.

the forum reflects all this and more.

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11-02-2008, 08:54 PM	#1
Waterman Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 345	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? There are some statements that I disagree with that have been posted about this topic. I believe there is a gap in realizing the relevance about politics by those that are not from the states. Although, political processes in the states are stolen, we are still passionately connected to the political process. For example to not speak of politics means to not talk about Gary McKinnon. The united states waited till the extradition law existed before they started to bring him here. That is call "Ex Post Facto" a prohibition by our Constitution. In America, politics has historically been participatory. It is politics that is hiding the UFOs. It is politics that is hiding free energy. It is politics that is taking the worlds freedoms away. It is politics that is trying take the internet down. It is through politics that the robber barons steal from us all. It is unfortunately politics ad nauseum in an election year. We then must remember this forum started very near the election process peaking in the states. The political statements of those in this forum are a natural manifestation of what is transpiring in the lives of Americans at this moment. AND the repercussions are going to be felt over the entire world. Whether "Americans" really do make the difference via voting is not what I'm talking about. The point is that it is a presidential election this year and the forum was started right before elections and that is on the minds of the people in the states, and the world for that matter. In the meantime there are many different approaches to problems and everyone thinks their approach is worth voicing. New age thinkers say the answer to the problem is manifesting ones destiny. Others say we must not speak of evil that is fearmongering. A political activist is going to say the answer is changing the policies . An activist is going to say it is full disclosure. All these type of people are on this forum persuading others to believe them. Yet it is important we realize that all these type of people exist and it is what it is. There will eventually be groupings in the forum and they will manifest what they want to do regardless of what the other groups want. The bottom line will be how Bill and Kerry massage the forum to fit the goals they want to accomplish. One of the massage techniques may be to make it subscriber based. That will IMHO remove those that see it as an adjunct activity. In the meantime nformation is being posted in Camelot freely. Certainly the main goal, meeting up with like minded and preparing, is going to at least cost folks some gas money. And if there isn't enough interest they just won't spend that money. If they were to go subscription based, the tone of the forum would actually become more focussed. It is my opinion that charging is one way of putting the responsibility of "connecting with other like minded" in the hands of those willing to pay for it. Thanks for asking.

11-02-2008, 09:05 PM	#3
Dadrious Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 86	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? "When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." - Gandhi

11-02-2008, 09:16 PM	#5
Antaletriangle Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.K. Posts: 3,380	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? I like your angles Brinty!!Lol !!comparing it to a sex session that develops into a loving relationship.I'd like to have a beer with you sometime jack!lol.

11-02-2008, 09:18 PM	#6
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? Could be better. Not enough balance in certain areas. Too much negativity in Off-Topic.

11-02-2008, 09:22 PM	#7
Allie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 161	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? I'm a girl, 2infintiy. Where is the evidence? I say this in a tone of respectfulness. Is it a view you have of the characteristics of a dis-info 'agent'? I may be wrong, but I'm honestly not sure this is reliable. It just didn't gel with me that the evidence you appeared to cite was 'being friendly' , 'popular', 'freedom of speech', 'infestation'. Sure, I'd agree those can be 'tactics' - but they might equally mean a genuinely friendly, popular person who supports freedom of speech.

11-02-2008, 09:27 PM	#8
pineal-pilot-in merkabah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: england Posts: 1,153	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? this forum is meant to be about how to form groups and help each other. i think there could be less cross posting. i think there is too much BS on here. this is meant to be about preparing physically and spiritually. i think we could cut down on the multiple threads of then same stuff, tighten it up a bit.. especially the ground crew forum .. it should be here to inform people of events that may or may not lead to futhter happenings. warnings,politics is not needed. ie zeitgeist pie in the sky horse **** Last edited by pineal-pilot-in merkabah; 11-02-2008 at 09:30 PM.

11-02-2008, 09:30 PM	#9
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? A lot of off-topic threads are moved to Project Camelot and as a result, this place doesn't seem to be TOO crowded with such stuff.

11-02-2008, 09:34 PM	#10
777 The Great Work Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: At the doors of perception Posts: 2,135	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? This forum is perfect, whole and complete Everything flows, out and in; everything has its tides; all things rise and fall; the pendulum-swing manifests in everything; the measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left; rhythm compensates Everything is Dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled. By Correspondence All natural effects are from spiritual causes. All is spirit Last edited by 777 The Great Work; 11-02-2008 at 09:41 PM.

11-02-2008, 10:05 PM	#11
371 Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 503	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? Just an observation: I think some people might be crying 'disinfo' when someone just doesn't agree with some of our 'common' beliefs. Like someone who say... has no problem with a one world government? Then they post links and give reasons why they think it's not so bad. That's not disinfo, its a differing opinion. There's nothing wrong with that, I can't say I agree on that specific issue but I'm just using it as an example. It's like the saying goes: "If two guys agree on everything, you can know that one of them is doing the thinking".

11-02-2008, 10:06 PM	#16
Alexandra Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? Kevin, It is my understanding, correct me , please, if I am wrong, that Project Avalon was created only to find safe places for people to live and resources and sites to be offered towards building safe communities. All other topics were to be left in Project Camelot forum. Perhaps, and this is only a suggestion, if all other categories were placed back in Camelot this would help. Alexandra

11-02-2008, 10:07 PM	#17
khristmaskathy Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 57	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? I am one who really loves Project Avalon. I have visited other sites, but this is by far the best one! Most everybody is kind and one gets the feeling of belonging, so to speak. I enjoy hearing a variety of opinions , even if I don't agree, I still care what others think. The political threads do not bother me at all; we are about to experience an election for goodness sake. It's on the minds of everyone so it should be okay to express feelings about what is going on! Keep up the great work, Project Avalon, and thanks to everyone who posts! I have been a member since October 5th but it seems longer, because I am really comfortable on this forum.

11-02-2008, 10:57 PM	#18
Malletzky Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It doesn't matter any more Posts: 534	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? Should we be honest? Well then, both PC and PA forum is a wonderful place where a human (or a wanderer, or whatever ) could learn his "missing" lessons. And we have so much to learn . No one here have the completely picture of what is happening to us. And therefore, I'm very proud to be around, as mostly, the members here are really nice and give their wisdom and knowledge to another. Each one participate with their own thruth, and this is how we're gonna learn the WHOLE that IS!!! But.... ...as I allready mentioned in one of my previous posts ( check that here: http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...60557#post6055 ), I have a feeling that there a few members here, who try to divide... Trying to look "cool" and stating the own point of view as the ultimate truth is just leading to displeasure by others. There are so many good threads around with realy good issues, which deserve to be discussed more then ever. But there are obvious some "big guns" around here which, if they don't like the subject (could be for many reasons), they just don't participate. If they don't participate, so other "friends" also don't. Or they post their ulimate thruts out there and there you have it, the thread "dies". The displeasure could lead to resignation and members will go away to other forums. Sorry for my honest words... Last edited by Malletzky; 11-02-2008 at 11:02 PM.

11-02-2008, 11:22 PM	#19
sunflower Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 443	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? By the time I got around to reading this thread I found that practically everything was said and well said at that. So all I can say at this point is that I look forward to reading the threads on Avalon and if I found one I don't agree with or dislike I just leave. I really prefer to pick up pertinent info and leave discussion to others. There's nothing wrong with discussion and for those members who enjoy it go to it. Just be friendly and polite. Don't jump on someone who is genuinely offering his or her personal testimonial. Don't belittle someone else just to feel a bit more justified in your own personal beliefs. Truth is relative depending on one's point of view. So, Kevin, yes, I do enjoy this forum and what it stands for.

11-02-2008, 11:28 PM	#20
PodWORLD Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 171	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? I like the forum and I'm glad its here. U think we need to remember that it's only a couple of months old and still working itself out. To be honest in the 'good old days' which were literally days ago there was a lot of fighting and disagreement so that's not new. The forum was set up for reasons that wouldnt necessarily jive with the people it would first attract - Project camelot viewers - so some fracture is completely normal. I think it's a shame that tongues werent sheathed more in regard to the 'witnesses' who helped create the interest and funds which in turn created this forum. Can't say I agree with some of them but it would be better if they were still on here I think. As for disinfo agents I abhor this term as much as the dreadful 'sheeple'. These terms are thrown around and usually by experienced forum users which tells the story I think. Sometimes it's too easy to misunderstand a typed message and we need to chill out I think and be more forgiving too.

11-02-2008, 11:25 PM	#21
Reunite Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 279	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? I am very grateful for this forum as it has manifested great friends for me already. I have met over 10 members in person so far and share an unseen connection. I have a question for Kevin or another mod in regards to the forum interface. I use a PC at work and everything appears to remain the same. At home I use my mac and the interface has changerd only twice on random occasions to a white background with green lettering and a completetly different layout all together. Are you trialing a new interface or am I going nuts?

11-03-2008, 10:46 PM	#24
TranceAm Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: South Carolina USA Posts: 368	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? Its a sanctuary.

11-04-2008, 01:03 AM	#25
clarkkent Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 319	Re: How Do You Feel About This Forum? i agree with the the truth shallsetyoufree and mr phi (as usual ,heh) this forum is a different animal than it was during its inception. mr phi's cartoon depicts the nature of the dichotomy here quite well. there are some very spiritual smart savvy wise and informed people here and there are many more people who are none of those things. the best one can hope for is to peruse the threads and look under "new posts" and hope theres some interesting info or a good discussion happening. it IS a microcosm of what youd get in a physical groundcrew, though i do think people are a bit more respectful in person and certain info is more easily seen as false when you see whos delivering it. i dont come here as much , except occasionaly and ive found http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/ to be just as enlightening and the forums at http://divinecosmos.com to be good as well. the one thing that bugs me a bit at camelot/avalon is that alarmist negative reports get so much attention. st clair and wilcock both said that october wouldnt be as nutty as everyone was predicting (yes the financial turmoil is huge but not life wrecking for most of us) look at the doom and gloomers who got all the attention "hawkeye" who said america would be brought to its knees in early october and that there probably wouldnt even be an election, and of course dr deagle's prophet of the most high god of imminent nuclear war as well as george green. halfpast human's report got blown out of proportion as well with most people thinking total economic collapse would happen in october.---the fact is the election is tomorrow and most of us still have jobs and my coffee is still $2.oo.....and while that might not always be the case, fretting and getting worked up over "prophets" visions or "insiders" testimony of the "roths" destroying us, just plays into the fear game. bill and kerry seem to be stuck between letting go and just letting their spirit guide them and know that this is all illusion and transition....and holing up underground like the military with hydroponics and being glad that they have money to separate them from the fates of the masses. IMO camelot/avalon unfortunately caters to the inner survivalist/fear monger while at the same time preaching "no fear" spirituality but the fact is apocalyptic visions and speculation gets everyones blood pumping, and calm rational discussion of "probabilites" does not. the forum reflects all this and more.