T1v83: Could Hillary ever become President? - Page 2

noelnewell · 09-24-2008, 09:07 PM

I was just thinking that if I had looked through the looking glass Dan Burisch was talking about, and saw some of the future

AND if, as Bill said, that time is like a river that has a dominent direction, though it could change course, AND then enough of the course changed so that Hillary is most likely not to become president (nor VP, which is just as well as Obama would be fighting to keep his power while she would try to take over)

THEN maybe I would find someone like Palin, who is energetically similiar to Hillary, to get that timeline back on the course I wanted! Now the choice is logical. Just speculating

QUESTINY · 09-24-2008, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noelnewell

THEN maybe I would find someone like Palin, who is energetically similiar to Hillary, to get that timeline back on the course I wanted! Now the choice is logical. Just speculating

Very good point. Could it be that a particular faction it trying to correct a course that they want to see to fruition? Nudging the future through manipulation of energy?

THE eXchanger · 09-09-2008, 01:55 PM

i think the VP is more powerful than the president

and, it's more the so called protection
organisations

(i do NOT need to name them all)

that were created--as, solutions we think
are there to protect us
which are the problem

GUN CONTROL (is NOT a good thing)

i believe, we have the right to bear arms

when "the people" give up their guns
i believe, they also give up their right to protect themselves

i grew up in a family,
where we were taught a healthy respect for a gun,
and, we acquired a talent of eye-hand co-ordination,
very young

i am glad we are in canada,
since, here that is NOT the case

there is a lot of talk of the USA elections
being manipulated,
and, i wonder what year,
the last honest election occurred ?
maybe 1960 ?

i'd love to hear others comments on that !!!

GregorArturo · 09-18-2008, 07:26 PM

Man everytime I see this thread, I'm always like wtf are people posting about a god damn graphing calculator. Then I see the I is a one, and Hillary, and I'm like eh, I'd rather read about the calculator

Trishsgate · 09-18-2008, 09:39 PM

I am not sure how this looking glass material works. One question that sticks in my mind was whether that female could have been Ms. Palin. I am not a supporter of either candidate and would have preferred a more independent candidate myself that will not happen until the people wish to embrace and start "thinking" not along party lines but who the individual is as a person, doing individual research into their background and choosing your person based on what closely aligns with your own and not just allegiance to a political party. My personal beliefs on this whole political arena is one of most if not all of them are just window dressing, nothing more. I do have to agree with Mr. St. Clair in that Ms. Palin has been getting a lot of attacks and have to question why that is, she definitely was not their pick that she came out of the blue so to say. Lots of questions in the back of my mind. I can only hope one day we have someone that represents the very best of America and also can restore a positive image to the world, to date we have none of this type in the arena. I am still waiting for one that can not just talk but actually do what they say, actions speak louder than words.

sunnyrap · 09-24-2008, 10:47 PM

St.Clair mentioned www.neptunecafe.com as one of his resources. When I went there yesterday, someone had posted Obama's 'legitimate, real, birth certificate and chart'...and an article on his prospects for the presidency. I'm wondering if Michael isn't working up his own view of that chart?

Mario Brito · 09-24-2008, 11:13 PM

Hi all

Please forgive my English, it's not my natural language.

Some questions... Dan stated that T2 was avoided and that we are currently in T1v83... ok.

But, even with the looking glass thecnology, how do they know that ?

Have they seen all the others variants ?

How many are there ?

I've read that just a few details are different between variants. How do they tell one from another ?

If we "jumped" from T2 to T1, is it possible to know the exact date ? So that we could "track" the event that made that possible ?

Thanks

THE eXchanger · 09-24-2008, 11:34 PM

What is disturbing in the USA
is that, it appears to be a 2 party platform only ???

when in fact, i do NOT think it is,
or, it certainly, should NOT be, if it is

also, the same right, is on the right,
as, what is on the left side of the equation,
so, a vote either way,
is landing in the same camp !!!

i do NOT think, any president can change the mess

in fact, i think, the best thing to do,
would be, to go back, to individual states,
as, i would bet that would change things in a hurry.

i still believe, that the VP holds more power,
than, the president

and, there are many areas, that are clearly NOT
governed, by the president,
in fact, is it NOT true he does NOT hold certain
levels of security clearance ???

NOW, if we look back ...who allowed those laws
to change

(maybe a movie star president ???)

i think there are a lot of bills that get stuffed
into 4000 page documents, that almost NO one
on earth, could get at 4pm; and; have them read
by 10am, the next morning--
and, vote intelligently on them
it is NOT possible

also, what are the laws,
pertaining to a president having to have been born
in the usa ?

let's say the old bush, was NOT an amerian,
but, was elected a president,
would NOT every law, he inacted,
have to be taken out of the books ???
(if it could be proven, he was NOT born in the usa)

there's an interesting book on
the history of bush right here

http://www.the7thfire.com/bushPrefaceTC.htm

have many people read it ???

there also was a very interesting series on you tube

called

Bill & Hillary Clinton: Their Secret Life -

part 1 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0-HkVcMOSw

part 2 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls9yD...eature=related

part 3 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qetpi...eature=related

part 4 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo5yF...eature=related
part 5 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9szhm...eature=related
part 6 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G1T4...eature=related
part 7 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1r65...eature=related
part 8 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJsrU...eature=related

part 9 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6LWc...eature=related
part 10 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjwp8...eature=related
part 11 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AVjM...eature=related
part 12 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2oTg...eature=related

enjoy it

love
susan
the eXchanger

love
susan
the eXchanger

Jacqui D · 09-25-2008, 10:50 AM

Yes as you say exchanger there are more than 2 running for office and behind the scenes, i am english so there for i don't understand the whole American election system but what i can see are people elected or as i have said before picked to be in these higher places even before birth,placed in authority positions to play out the game that the real powers push forward.
This stands the same in Britain also, at the moment Gorden Brown our labour leader seems to be struggling against the tide of things.
Was he merely a puppet taking over the reins of Tony Blair i think so.
But then his ego thought he could become Tony and basically take over where he left off.
I don't feel sorry for any of these so called political men, they are sworn in to take office, they know what has to be done.
Be it there downfall or not.
I'm not sure about the timeline situation though,changing the Hillary scanario because as far as i can see feminine, male what ever gender they are they are still working for the power figures.

The problem with this earth is that we have been taken over by an alien force that thrives on power,greed and control, in a perfect world there would be no control over others but a union of such where everyone is equal.

Carrie Todd · 09-25-2008, 03:16 PM

The sad thing is this: yes, we do have more than a two party system, but unfortunately or bought and paid for media only covers the "chosen" candidates. Note the lack of mainstream coverage that Ron Paul received. Plus, has he ever been allowed in any televised debate? It is more than obvious that we are shown what they want to show us and; therefore, our choices are limited to the two that they give us (more or less).

It's like a parent who offers their little girl a choice of the blue dress or the pink one. Maybe the little girl want to wear jeans but that's not really an option. With the electoral college, even if the little girl picks the blue dress the parent can give her the pick one because, well, majority rules.

Please pardon the extreme use of analogy.

dreb13 · 09-25-2008, 03:35 PM

Could Clinton still come back? Internet buzzes with rumours Biden will be replaced by Hillary as Obama's running mate

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...ning-mate.html

Quote:

The internet is buzzing today with the rumour that Barack Obama's gaffe-prone running mate Joe Biden will drop out of the race for health reasons - to be replaced by Hillary Clinton.

John McCain's selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate has created so much interest in the Republicans that Mr Obama will have to make a radical move to regain momentum, the argument goes.

Mrs Clinton could be just the key. Mr Biden, who had surgery in 1998 to repair two brain aneurysms, would drop out after the vice presidential debates due to be held on October 2, according to the claims - leaving the way open for the former First Lady.

Today, there was a man arrested near Obamas home who was "looking for a job"

Quote:

Authorities say a man arrested near Barack Obama's Chicago home told police officers he wanted to speak with the presidential hopeful about getting a job.

...

when police searched his car, they found a .40 caliber pistol, a bulletproof vest and ammunition. Sengstacke was charged with unlawful use of a weapon by a felon and criminal trespassing on state land.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080925/...ljv8XpNvcDW7oF

Keep that in mind and re-read Bill Ryans post:

Quote:

If there is a weird twist of fate and circumstances somehow conspire (or people conspire!) to enable Hillary to be on the ticket after all - then head for the hills, because we will be in trouble. The probailty of this, though, looks very low indeed. It's not zero - because weird things CAN happen - but may be less than 1%.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...96&postcount=8

If these pieces fall into place, "head for the hills" as Bill said.

Bill could you elaborate a little more if possible??

seeing clearly · 09-24-2008, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunnyrap

St.Clair mentioned www.neptunecafe.com as one of his resources. When I went there yesterday, someone had posted Obama's 'legitimate, real, birth certificate and chart'...and an article on his prospects for the presidency. I'm wondering if Michael isn't working up his own view of that chart?

That is a kool website BUT it is NOT a best source

obama was born in KENYA

not Hawaii.

BEST of the best ones are Astrodienst
and Lois Rodden

only verified info respected in Astrology circles

there is no PROVEN chart for bama
its becauise there were so many forgeries
as he is not legally eligible ....

!

09-24-2008, 09:07 PM	#1
noelnewell Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 21	Re: T1v83: Could Hillary ever become President? I was just thinking that if I had looked through the looking glass Dan Burisch was talking about, and saw some of the future AND if, as Bill said, that time is like a river that has a dominent direction, though it could change course, AND then enough of the course changed so that Hillary is most likely not to become president (nor VP, which is just as well as Obama would be fighting to keep his power while she would try to take over) THEN maybe I would find someone like Palin, who is energetically similiar to Hillary, to get that timeline back on the course I wanted! Now the choice is logical. Just speculating

09-09-2008, 01:55 PM	#3
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: T1v83: Could Hillary ever become President? i think the VP is more powerful than the president and, it's more the so called protection organisations (i do NOT need to name them all) that were created--as, solutions we think are there to protect us which are the problem GUN CONTROL (is NOT a good thing) i believe, we have the right to bear arms when "the people" give up their guns i believe, they also give up their right to protect themselves i grew up in a family, where we were taught a healthy respect for a gun, and, we acquired a talent of eye-hand co-ordination, very young i am glad we are in canada, since, here that is NOT the case there is a lot of talk of the USA elections being manipulated, and, i wonder what year, the last honest election occurred ? maybe 1960 ? i'd love to hear others comments on that !!!

09-18-2008, 07:26 PM	#4
GregorArturo Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 560	Re: T1v83: Could Hillary ever become President? Man everytime I see this thread, I'm always like wtf are people posting about a god damn graphing calculator. Then I see the I is a one, and Hillary, and I'm like eh, I'd rather read about the calculator

09-18-2008, 09:39 PM	#5
Trishsgate Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NC, USA Posts: 140	Re: T1v83: Could Hillary ever become President? I am not sure how this looking glass material works. One question that sticks in my mind was whether that female could have been Ms. Palin. I am not a supporter of either candidate and would have preferred a more independent candidate myself that will not happen until the people wish to embrace and start "thinking" not along party lines but who the individual is as a person, doing individual research into their background and choosing your person based on what closely aligns with your own and not just allegiance to a political party. My personal beliefs on this whole political arena is one of most if not all of them are just window dressing, nothing more. I do have to agree with Mr. St. Clair in that Ms. Palin has been getting a lot of attacks and have to question why that is, she definitely was not their pick that she came out of the blue so to say. Lots of questions in the back of my mind. I can only hope one day we have someone that represents the very best of America and also can restore a positive image to the world, to date we have none of this type in the arena. I am still waiting for one that can not just talk but actually do what they say, actions speak louder than words.

09-24-2008, 10:47 PM	#6
sunnyrap Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 147	Re: T1v83: Could Hillary ever become President? St.Clair mentioned www.neptunecafe.com as one of his resources. When I went there yesterday, someone had posted Obama's 'legitimate, real, birth certificate and chart'...and an article on his prospects for the presidency. I'm wondering if Michael isn't working up his own view of that chart?

09-24-2008, 11:13 PM	#7
Mario Brito Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Lisboa - Belas Posts: 27	Re: T1v83: Could Hillary ever become President? Hi all Please forgive my English, it's not my natural language. Some questions... Dan stated that T2 was avoided and that we are currently in T1v83... ok. But, even with the looking glass thecnology, how do they know that ? Have they seen all the others variants ? How many are there ? I've read that just a few details are different between variants. How do they tell one from another ? If we "jumped" from T2 to T1, is it possible to know the exact date ? So that we could "track" the event that made that possible ? Thanks

09-24-2008, 11:34 PM	#8
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: T1v83: Could Hillary ever become President? What is disturbing in the USA is that, it appears to be a 2 party platform only ??? when in fact, i do NOT think it is, or, it certainly, should NOT be, if it is also, the same right, is on the right, as, what is on the left side of the equation, so, a vote either way, is landing in the same camp !!! i do NOT think, any president can change the mess in fact, i think, the best thing to do, would be, to go back, to individual states, as, i would bet that would change things in a hurry. i still believe, that the VP holds more power, than, the president and, there are many areas, that are clearly NOT governed, by the president, in fact, is it NOT true he does NOT hold certain levels of security clearance ??? NOW, if we look back ...who allowed those laws to change (maybe a movie star president ???) i think there are a lot of bills that get stuffed into 4000 page documents, that almost NO one on earth, could get at 4pm; and; have them read by 10am, the next morning-- and, vote intelligently on them it is NOT possible also, what are the laws, pertaining to a president having to have been born in the usa ? let's say the old bush, was NOT an amerian, but, was elected a president, would NOT every law, he inacted, have to be taken out of the books ??? (if it could be proven, he was NOT born in the usa) there's an interesting book on the history of bush right here http://www.the7thfire.com/bushPrefaceTC.htm have many people read it ??? there also was a very interesting series on you tube called Bill & Hillary Clinton: Their Secret Life - part 1 of 12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0-HkVcMOSw part 2 of 12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls9yD...eature=related part 3 of 12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qetpi...eature=related part 4 of 12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo5yF...eature=related part 5 of 12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9szhm...eature=related part 6 of 12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G1T4...eature=related part 7 of 12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1r65...eature=related part 8 of 12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJsrU...eature=related part 9 of 12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6LWc...eature=related part 10 of 12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjwp8...eature=related part 11 of 12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AVjM...eature=related part 12 of 12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2oTg...eature=related enjoy it love susan the eXchanger love susan the eXchanger

09-25-2008, 10:50 AM	#9
Jacqui D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kent,England Posts: 1,267	Re: T1v83: Could Hillary ever become President? Yes as you say exchanger there are more than 2 running for office and behind the scenes, i am english so there for i don't understand the whole American election system but what i can see are people elected or as i have said before picked to be in these higher places even before birth,placed in authority positions to play out the game that the real powers push forward. This stands the same in Britain also, at the moment Gorden Brown our labour leader seems to be struggling against the tide of things. Was he merely a puppet taking over the reins of Tony Blair i think so. But then his ego thought he could become Tony and basically take over where he left off. I don't feel sorry for any of these so called political men, they are sworn in to take office, they know what has to be done. Be it there downfall or not. I'm not sure about the timeline situation though,changing the Hillary scanario because as far as i can see feminine, male what ever gender they are they are still working for the power figures. The problem with this earth is that we have been taken over by an alien force that thrives on power,greed and control, in a perfect world there would be no control over others but a union of such where everyone is equal.

09-25-2008, 03:16 PM	#10
Carrie Todd Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turney Posts: 33	Re: T1v83: Could Hillary ever become President? The sad thing is this: yes, we do have more than a two party system, but unfortunately or bought and paid for media only covers the "chosen" candidates. Note the lack of mainstream coverage that Ron Paul received. Plus, has he ever been allowed in any televised debate? It is more than obvious that we are shown what they want to show us and; therefore, our choices are limited to the two that they give us (more or less). It's like a parent who offers their little girl a choice of the blue dress or the pink one. Maybe the little girl want to wear jeans but that's not really an option. With the electoral college, even if the little girl picks the blue dress the parent can give her the pick one because, well, majority rules. Please pardon the extreme use of analogy.