New Zealand Ground Crew - Page 2

HaveBlue · 10-31-2008, 11:56 AM

Hi people, Optix I just hope you are good friends with the Maori up there as that is Ngapuhi country-in other words they are the ones that ate white people, longpork they called us! But they ate each other too! That was a 100 yeras ago to be sure but if things got bad enough they would be quite happy to revert to it I'm sure!
Down here in the SAouth Island there is only 1 million people compared to 3 million for the north island.
There is no methamphetimine freaks here either. A local cop told me that in Dunedin and Invergargill there is no problem with that but in Christchurch there is. I lived in Hamilton for 25 years and have been here 10 yeras. it was the best thing I've ever done,moving here that is. The people are nicer and more intelligent per capita too.
Feel free to look me up (anyone that reads this) if you ever visit or move down this way. And it's not as cold as people think! That's a disinfo thing to keep the idiots away!
Regard,Stephen

Optix · 11-02-2008, 07:53 PM

Hahaha HaveBlue, im well aware that theres a lot of ngapuhi country up here but generally you can talk to them now since they know english so im hoping it doesnt get so bad that i get eaten.....

but then for that to happen they'd have to catch me, and im verry verrry sneaky.
Plus from what i make of this country i think im lookin to move to the south island in the next year or two anyway, i id feel safer in the mountains being higher up. a lot of northland is low lying and would get flooded from any serious storm.

utopiandreamer · 11-03-2008, 02:25 AM

Hi KIwis , Kia Ora . w.r.t. chemtrails there are much less chemtrails here than in Europe , so that's great . Probably due to our blue skies they spray at night so you can not see them . If you want to watch the end result look at the sun on a blue sky like now for example on the north shore , you will notice that around the sun the color is a pale whitish blue . Do not fear the chemtrails as for now but fear the coming CODEX ALIMENTARIUS implementation , and the future banning of alternative medicines . the magazine " Uncensored " last issue has a very nice article on the subject , it is imperative to read it to learn how to react and concentrate our efforts .

Barron · 12-04-2008, 08:20 PM

Hi Fellow Kiwis.

Delighted to have recently found this web community and this is my first post to say "hi".

I'm a 40 year old male living on the outskirts of Auckland in a beautiful patch of Kauris and Rimus etc and have been on a search for knowledge and truth my whole life - you never stop learning!

For those interested I am active on another great site that is "gathering the ground crew" and it is www.ashtarcommand.net

Blessings to All.
Barron

Dakini7 · 12-06-2008, 11:28 PM

I've thought carefully about posting this - and have now decided it is the right move. Sorry for the re-post, I also posted this in the other NZ thread.

I thought I should share with all of you that I contacted Maximise on here, regarding NZ ground crew plans. He was friendly at first, then upon viewing my website which outlines my artist/musician profile of a more spiritual nature - he outright judged me and said he wasn't interested in the kind of work I do, and that I basically wasn't welcome.

He then signed the email he sent me, LEADER, of some Aotearoa group.

I feel it is important that there is transparency, in these early formative stages...and we all need to be careful about who we associate ourselves with to co-create these ground crews & bases.

Personally, anyone calling themselves a leader, who judges others without even finding out about them directly - I would be concerned about their assumed role of "leader".

I am not interested in further fueling this conflict, nor having a public war with anyone. We have enough disharmony already on this planet. I approach people on here, for support, collaboration & co-creation. I don't believe it is acceptable for anyone to judge, exclude, or label THEMSELVES or anyone else. That's just continuing with old dysfunctional behaviours of segregation and EGO.

As I wrote to Maximise : "A united community presents an inpenetrable front against corruption."

I wish you all the best in finding the right leaders, and collaborators to work with - conscious, open, loving, passionate individuals all about working TOGETHER for a better world.

Blessings.

Peter · 12-08-2008, 03:46 AM

Thankx Dakini7, like you I believe we should be open and truthfull on this forum.
I contacted Maximise myself after reading his 1st post but when I saw he signed himself leader the warning lights started flashing, I personally have no desire to be in anyones flock.
Like you my wife Rosie and I are both Artists/musicians and we are also very spiritually inclined, so he won't be wanting us amongst his followers, Baa.
I doubt very much that you, Maximise will find many people here ready to take you on as their leader. The majority here are Free souls thats why they are here, the ones looking for leaders are sitting in front of their televisions or tugging on the priests cassock.
The EGO desires recognition, control and power over others we have to leave our ego's behind and accept to share the responsibility of decision making.
Arguably some people need and want to be guided, like the weak willed the mentally handicapped and of course young children and we all have a responsibility to help those individuals who ask for help. I never imagined that any of the ground crew members would want to follow a leader it seems so strange to me, isn't that where humanity up till now has gone wrong.
Thankx again Dakini7 I hope we meet one day,
Bye for now, Peter.

Ross H · 07-05-2009, 11:56 PM

Hello fellow ground crews in NZ. I'm a kiwi living in queensland OZ, have been for 2.5 yrs now. I moved here due to easier access to self sufficiant living. I bought 46 acres, solar powered, rain water (plenty of rain in my area) 70,000 ltrs, 2x dams, generator and excellent growing conditions, all year round. Plenty of sun and good govt rebates on solar. Sadley it was to expensive to set up in NZ and the lack of sun.

I applaud all of you there in your quest to fight the PTB. I have noticed many more ppls awakening than when I left.

I read above about the no nukes ships allowed in NZ, of course this has been the case since David Longe was PM, however....nuke subs have been in NZ waters for years, Major secret spy stations in different locations, Southern Stewart Is is of major concern with big airstrip and god knows what else is there, this is world heritage area and OFF limits to the public...big black unmarked herc type aircraft fly in and out of this area and I have seen personally in southern sth Is. There is far more covert secret **** going on in NZ than most ppls realize. It has been a testing ground for all sorts for 30 yrs and more...most kiwi's go about life oblivious to whats going on right under there noses...Auckland 10yrs ago, Painted apple-moth, Akland was sprayed heavily with posion, 6 times over my old house, I bailed until it was over, OZ is the same, PTB all over the area, pine gap the most notorious...its everywhere, nowhere is immune, BUT in saying that I would rather be in the southern hemisphere than elsewhere...OZ suits me for the self sufficiant living...
Love and peace to all my fellow Kiwis...

mudra · 07-19-2009, 02:22 PM

Friends visit my thread: Radiant zones and community building...Where are we up to ?

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=15480

loving kindness
mudra

Barron · 10-23-2009, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jross

Hello fellow ground crews in NZ. I'm a kiwi living in queensland OZ, have been for 2.5 yrs now. I moved here due to easier access to self sufficiant living. I bought 46 acres, solar powered, rain water (plenty of rain in my area) 70,000 ltrs, 2x dams, generator and excellent growing conditions, all year round. Plenty of sun and good govt rebates on solar. Sadley it was to expensive to set up in NZ and the lack of sun.

I applaud all of you there in your quest to fight the PTB. I have noticed many more ppls awakening than when I left.

I read above about the no nukes ships allowed in NZ, of course this has been the case since David Longe was PM, however....nuke subs have been in NZ waters for years, Major secret spy stations in different locations, Southern Stewart Is is of major concern with big airstrip and god knows what else is there, this is world heritage area and OFF limits to the public...big black unmarked herc type aircraft fly in and out of this area and I have seen personally in southern sth Is. There is far more covert secret **** going on in NZ than most ppls realize. It has been a testing ground for all sorts for 30 yrs and more...most kiwi's go about life oblivious to whats going on right under there noses...Auckland 10yrs ago, Painted apple-moth, Akland was sprayed heavily with posion, 6 times over my old house, I bailed until it was over, OZ is the same, PTB all over the area, pine gap the most notorious...its everywhere, nowhere is immune, BUT in saying that I would rather be in the southern hemisphere than elsewhere...OZ suits me for the self sufficiant living...
Love and peace to all my fellow Kiwis...

Hi Jross

Nice post thanks. Did you say the huge airstrip is on Stewart Island? Don't suppose you can see it on Google Earth?

Apparenty over in Oz you have another Underground Base at Mt Ziel in Nthn Territories. And apparently the biggest airstrip is at Clonburry or Clonberry? Whereby Australia is also meant to have huge aircraft fly in and out too.

So, what else covert in NZ? Keen to hear.
Cheers
Barron
Auckland

Ross H · 10-23-2009, 04:02 AM

Hi Barron,

yes Oz is full of covert, secret op's and have heard a few weeks ago the NWO is making OZ its home base??? I have to research this some more!

Pine gap is supposedly a star-gate facility as well as Alien underground facilities...

NZ is interesting...some background info: The late Hon Robert Muldoon, ex prime Minister, free mason. When he was finance minister under then prime minister Keith Holyoak, he was also treasurer of the world bank. He was reconigsed as a very talented mind and was told to get NZ into debt. While finance minister NZ was in the black to the tune of some 2 million dollars, NO debt at all! When he became Prime minister he started the "THINK BIG" projects. Refinaries, Clyde dam, Smelters, military and others. This was the begining of our debt which is now in the tune of 100's of billions of which we have only ever paid back some interest. Typical "get them into debt syndrome" as seen through out the world. Roger Douglas was another follow on...NZ has been an easy target to experiment with global financial dependency and tech such as the first country to fully embrace EFTPOS, mobile ph's, cloning and other "trial' experiments, small population base, easy to convince, easy to control.

North Head...Davenport...always a suspect for underground, under water activities, areas where public are not allowed. Spy stations near Bulls. Our "anti nuke" stance is really a joke. I am convinced that usa nuke subs have been in our waters since the war. Also there have been a few 33 degree masons with outrageous power's of which my late Uncle was one of them!

NZ is as corrupt as you can imagine! Also several years ago my Father also a mason said to me when HELEN CLERK won second term that one day she will be head of the UN??? well here she is at position 3 of the UN. Hmmm you gotta start to think WTF???

However this is typical of all of the west so no biggy really tho many kiwis think we are a green clean soveriegn country tho we are under the british monarcy and dictated to as such.

peace and love to all...

reZak · 09-10-2008, 12:39 PM

Hi Anasazi and everyone. I will fly to NZ 13.september. I am interested in sustainable independent houses called earthships... so mainly Iam going there to get some practical experiences with them, helping some people and communities to build them. I wont to Join and live with waken people in community, but now I am still learning about survival, alternative energies and stuff to be able to contribute more. Iam flexible enought to go enywhere and meet anybody who wont to start community. Peter, can I have a look how are you doing on your place when i am near?

Do anybody knows about this ones?
http://directory.ic.org/21812/Earthwise_Valley
http://www.savita.co.nz/

linkes · 09-11-2008, 09:11 AM

I’ve also noticed the chem. trails here more so than when I lived in South Africa. I heard that chem. trails are silver particles placed in the atmosphere to reflect the damaging rays from the sun. It would make sense considering the hole in the ozone layer is right on top of us. I am not saying its a solution but think about it where would you implement the idea in the first place, well where the issue is the worst.

None the less I love NZ

We are in the Southern hemisphere at the ass end of the world, Bonus if nuclear war had to break out in Europe or America

We are greener than the rest of the world Bonus

We are at the end of the earth and have like very little oil BONUS

Also think about it we are a population of 4 million and the amount of farms if the world had to go bust electronically and financially we have the resource to keep plodding along.

Here’s to NZ ground crew

Peace and Blessing
Linkes

sakuna · 09-11-2008, 09:39 AM

My understanding/knowledge of chemtrails suggests they provide a medium/carrier for the transmission of sound/light waves to affect biorythmic
patterns, targeting primarily weather & human behaviour. (evidently not for our benefit)
Dumbing us down & rehearsing the global warming climate catastrophe endgame.
Best Regards

Carol · 12-10-2008, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reZak

Hi Anasazi and everyone. I will fly to NZ 13.september. I am interested in sustainable independent houses called earthships... so mainly Iam going there to get some practical experiences with them, helping some people and communities to build them. I wont to Join and live with waken people in community, but now I am still learning about survival, alternative energies and stuff to be able to contribute more. Iam flexible enought to go enywhere and meet anybody who wont to start community. Peter, can I have a look how are you doing on your place when i am near?

Do anybody knows about this ones?
http://directory.ic.org/21812/Earthwise_Valley
http://www.savita.co.nz/

Hi,

We went to live in an earthship in Taos, New Mexico and learned how to build one. Basically, the walls are made out of used tires rammed with earth and stacked like a mm.

The roof is designed to collect water which flows down into cisterns located at the ends of the structure and are underground. The structure is build 4 feet down into the ground to keep an ambient temperture in the 70s inside year round irrespective of how hot or cold it gets outside. Windows face south where the winter sun is located as the entire south end is designed to be a green house where one can grow banana trees and their own food.. it would be easy to design an aquaponic system inside on the south end.

Google earthships - Taos, New Mexico

Go to www.friendlyaquaponics.com for how to do an aquaponics system

FoxForceFive · 09-29-2008, 10:06 AM

I am in Oamaru. I suspect that any attempts at bringing together a ground crew in a small community will involve the whole town itself reconnecting and banding together - the whole 'know your neighbour' thing.

The problem is, most of us these days learn about teamwork through such esteemed reality tv shows as 'Celebrity Treasure Island' and 'Castaway'. I am positive that a place like ours would remain relatively self-sustainable when it comes to growing our own food off the grid, as it were.

Gareth · 09-30-2008, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxForceFive

I am in Oamaru. I suspect that any attempts at bringing together a ground crew in a small community will involve the whole town itself reconnecting and banding together - the whole 'know your neighbour' thing.

The problem is, most of us these days learn about teamwork through such esteemed reality tv shows as 'Celebrity Treasure Island' and 'Castaway'. I am positive that a place like ours would remain relatively self-sustainable when it comes to growing our own food off the grid, as it were.

I tend to agree with that. We only need to "take back" the oil being extracted in the deep south and keep it for ourselves instead of sending it overseas and we should be okay.

11-24-2008, 06:51 AM

Hi

I have a network of people and I am putting things into place, our website will be on line in a few weeks, we will be takeing the offensive and also will be acting on developed plans if the worst care senario occurs.

Feel free to e-mail me if you want to know more.

Robert

11-30-2008, 04:48 AM

Hi

Just a clarification, I am here for people who want to network, communicate and educate other people, also to find solutions for the young people regarding their short and long term survival, as they are the future.

Robert Shariff

Leader O Aotearoa Waka

PS: in the future gold and silver will be meaningless, water and land brings life.

Sol Invictus · 12-02-2008, 02:04 AM

My wife and I went to the high commission, and asked about living in NZ. They were really helpful until it got to education of our little kiddie and immunisations.

Cannot educate at home 'unless you can satisfy the education secetary that she will be as well educated and as regulated as she would be at school'.

So in short, we said thanks, and **** you. brain washing? no way - we teach at home because we know how the state wants robots and docile sheep. they were very taken aback, but it made us realise we are in a good place. Oh and about child hood mandatory vaccines.... NZ just got scrubbed from the 'to do' list.

Waterman · 02-06-2010, 12:46 AM

Hi New Zealand Ground Crew,

It has been a long time since I have been on the forum but there is some interest in finding communities in New Zealand from some folks that listen to my radio broadcast, The Waterman Files on Argusoogradio.org

Please feel free to contact our community coordinator at community@mailvault.com and visit us at the new site
http://thejohnchronicles.wordpress.com

Hope to hear from you.

John Waterman

02-11-2010, 02:07 AM

I'm planning on GETTING OUT of NZ as I believe almost all the country will sink during a pole-shift. The country is very flat and cannot survive tidal waves - I discovered the highest South Island town is Arthurs pass (its tiny with a few dozen people who live there year round). The most worrying thing is the North Island is full of VOLCANOS (Auckland city has around 10). There's a massive earthquake fault running through Wellington & the South Island - see image below (sorry the faultline through Wellington is NOT shown here).

The North Island has huge volcanoes running down its middle (one erupted in the 1990s & another erupted in the 19th Century destroying the "Pink & White terraces" - the 8th wonder of the world). Here's a picture of the Kermadec Trench just to the right of the North Island & you can see "train tracks" to the North of the North Island - the huge volcanoes run in the middle of these train-tracks down the North Is - see picture:

You'll need to research some of my above points yourself as I can't explain everything in detail in one post.

Peter · 02-11-2010, 06:00 AM

So Caspyan, where are you going to run to ???...
Did you know that Arnold Schwartzeneger is having a $9 million house built at Queenstown.
I'd imagine someone like him would be in the "know" if there was going to be any trouble here, even if he's as thick as a donkey's fore skin. Also lots of Illuminati are moving to NZ and Aus, there are already over 10,000 retired American military officers living around Pine Gap in western Australia where there's supposed to be an alien base.
I'm not at all worried about the pole shift my intuition sayz we're safe here, remember we create our own reality so if you think you're gonna get caught up in a natural disaster it will follow you where ever you are.
Why don't you start building an Ark or buy an old life boat from the coast guard and plonk it on top of a mountain somewhere and just wait.......
Good luck, Luv an stuf, Peter.

02-11-2010, 10:37 PM

Peter, there's no need to be sarcastic and tell me "to build an ark" - I'm only presenting facts, and sharing my conclusions from them. You asked where I'm going to run to - this is difficult because I saw a world map with safe zones on Avalon - one safe zone is a circle through Mongolia & Russia (- impossible to move there because of bureaucracy), and the other circle was through South America (- land prices here have gone from almost zero to thousands of dollars an acre, so I cannot afford it even though countries like Paraguay & Guatemala has easy citizenship programmes).

So I'm continuing to learn and I hope after 21/12/2012 when nothing happens land prices will drop down in South America, so its possible to move there.

By the way the elite are building houses in all continents to have back up plans - e.g. the Queen owns land in every continent - including Denver airport where there's a big underground base - see "Conspiracy Theory 2012" by Jesse Ventura on youtube - VERY INTERESTING.

Ross H · 02-11-2010, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caspyan

I'm planning on GETTING OUT of NZ as I believe almost all the country will sink during a pole-shift. The country is very flat and cannot survive tidal waves - I discovered the highest South Island town is Arthurs pass (its tiny with a few dozen people who live there year round). The most worrying thing is the North Island is full of VOLCANOS (Auckland city has around 10). There's a massive earthquake fault running through Wellington & the South Island - see image below (sorry the faultline through Wellington is NOT shown here).

The North Island has huge volcanoes running down its middle (one erupted in the 1990s & another erupted in the 19th Century destroying the "Pink & White terraces" - the 8th wonder of the world). Here's a picture of the Kermadec Trench just to the right of the North Island & you can see "train tracks" to the North of the North Island - the huge volcanoes run in the middle of these train-tracks down the North Is - see picture:

You'll need to research some of my above points yourself as I can't explain everything in detail in one post.

Hi,
Volcanoes are a conspicuous feature of the Auckland city landscape. In some cases their form is emphasised by their preservation as reserves and parks, while in others they have been quarried to meet the city’s demand for building materials. Within a radius of about 20km centred on Auckland city there are 49 discrete volcanoes; this is the area referred to as the Auckland volcanic field.

Although it is at least 600 years since the last eruption in the Auckland volcanic field, there is every reason to expect eruptions in the future.

These eruptions are likely to be on a small scale compared with some recent overseas eruptions, but because the city of Auckland is built on and around potential eruption sites their effects are likely to be serious.

I agree New Zealand could be a dangerouse place if there is serious movement along the pacific rim.

Peace

HaveBlue · 02-20-2010, 10:25 AM

Great post and graphic Ross. The only reason NZ exists is because of what you've posted. Where I am is extinct volcano area in Dunedin. I live beneath a 12,500 one.
We get little movements often, They are small though.
But I like it here. I would get out if and when I had to.

10-31-2008, 11:56 AM	#1
HaveBlue Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 57	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hi people, Optix I just hope you are good friends with the Maori up there as that is Ngapuhi country-in other words they are the ones that ate white people, longpork they called us! But they ate each other too! That was a 100 yeras ago to be sure but if things got bad enough they would be quite happy to revert to it I'm sure! Down here in the SAouth Island there is only 1 million people compared to 3 million for the north island. There is no methamphetimine freaks here either. A local cop told me that in Dunedin and Invergargill there is no problem with that but in Christchurch there is. I lived in Hamilton for 25 years and have been here 10 yeras. it was the best thing I've ever done,moving here that is. The people are nicer and more intelligent per capita too. Feel free to look me up (anyone that reads this) if you ever visit or move down this way. And it's not as cold as people think! That's a disinfo thing to keep the idiots away! Regard,Stephen

11-02-2008, 07:53 PM	#2
Optix Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northland, New Zealand Posts: 11	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hahaha HaveBlue, im well aware that theres a lot of ngapuhi country up here but generally you can talk to them now since they know english so im hoping it doesnt get so bad that i get eaten..... but then for that to happen they'd have to catch me, and im verry verrry sneaky. Plus from what i make of this country i think im lookin to move to the south island in the next year or two anyway, i id feel safer in the mountains being higher up. a lot of northland is low lying and would get flooded from any serious storm.

11-03-2008, 02:25 AM	#3
utopiandreamer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 31	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hi KIwis , Kia Ora . w.r.t. chemtrails there are much less chemtrails here than in Europe , so that's great . Probably due to our blue skies they spray at night so you can not see them . If you want to watch the end result look at the sun on a blue sky like now for example on the north shore , you will notice that around the sun the color is a pale whitish blue . Do not fear the chemtrails as for now but fear the coming CODEX ALIMENTARIUS implementation , and the future banning of alternative medicines . the magazine " Uncensored " last issue has a very nice article on the subject , it is imperative to read it to learn how to react and concentrate our efforts .

12-04-2008, 08:20 PM	#4
Barron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 358	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hi Fellow Kiwis. Delighted to have recently found this web community and this is my first post to say "hi". I'm a 40 year old male living on the outskirts of Auckland in a beautiful patch of Kauris and Rimus etc and have been on a search for knowledge and truth my whole life - you never stop learning! For those interested I am active on another great site that is "gathering the ground crew" and it is www.ashtarcommand.net Blessings to All. Barron

12-06-2008, 11:28 PM	#5
Dakini7 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 13	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew I've thought carefully about posting this - and have now decided it is the right move. Sorry for the re-post, I also posted this in the other NZ thread. I thought I should share with all of you that I contacted Maximise on here, regarding NZ ground crew plans. He was friendly at first, then upon viewing my website which outlines my artist/musician profile of a more spiritual nature - he outright judged me and said he wasn't interested in the kind of work I do, and that I basically wasn't welcome. He then signed the email he sent me, LEADER, of some Aotearoa group. I feel it is important that there is transparency, in these early formative stages...and we all need to be careful about who we associate ourselves with to co-create these ground crews & bases. Personally, anyone calling themselves a leader, who judges others without even finding out about them directly - I would be concerned about their assumed role of "leader". I am not interested in further fueling this conflict, nor having a public war with anyone. We have enough disharmony already on this planet. I approach people on here, for support, collaboration & co-creation. I don't believe it is acceptable for anyone to judge, exclude, or label THEMSELVES or anyone else. That's just continuing with old dysfunctional behaviours of segregation and EGO. As I wrote to Maximise : "A united community presents an inpenetrable front against corruption." I wish you all the best in finding the right leaders, and collaborators to work with - conscious, open, loving, passionate individuals all about working TOGETHER for a better world. Blessings.

12-08-2008, 03:46 AM	#6
Peter Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 41	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Thankx Dakini7, like you I believe we should be open and truthfull on this forum. I contacted Maximise myself after reading his 1st post but when I saw he signed himself leader the warning lights started flashing, I personally have no desire to be in anyones flock. Like you my wife Rosie and I are both Artists/musicians and we are also very spiritually inclined, so he won't be wanting us amongst his followers, Baa. I doubt very much that you, Maximise will find many people here ready to take you on as their leader. The majority here are Free souls thats why they are here, the ones looking for leaders are sitting in front of their televisions or tugging on the priests cassock. The EGO desires recognition, control and power over others we have to leave our ego's behind and accept to share the responsibility of decision making. Arguably some people need and want to be guided, like the weak willed the mentally handicapped and of course young children and we all have a responsibility to help those individuals who ask for help. I never imagined that any of the ground crew members would want to follow a leader it seems so strange to me, isn't that where humanity up till now has gone wrong. Thankx again Dakini7 I hope we meet one day, Bye for now, Peter.

07-05-2009, 11:56 PM	#7
Ross H Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Queensland Australia Posts: 507	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hello fellow ground crews in NZ. I'm a kiwi living in queensland OZ, have been for 2.5 yrs now. I moved here due to easier access to self sufficiant living. I bought 46 acres, solar powered, rain water (plenty of rain in my area) 70,000 ltrs, 2x dams, generator and excellent growing conditions, all year round. Plenty of sun and good govt rebates on solar. Sadley it was to expensive to set up in NZ and the lack of sun. I applaud all of you there in your quest to fight the PTB. I have noticed many more ppls awakening than when I left. I read above about the no nukes ships allowed in NZ, of course this has been the case since David Longe was PM, however....nuke subs have been in NZ waters for years, Major secret spy stations in different locations, Southern Stewart Is is of major concern with big airstrip and god knows what else is there, this is world heritage area and OFF limits to the public...big black unmarked herc type aircraft fly in and out of this area and I have seen personally in southern sth Is. There is far more covert secret **** going on in NZ than most ppls realize. It has been a testing ground for all sorts for 30 yrs and more...most kiwi's go about life oblivious to whats going on right under there noses...Auckland 10yrs ago, Painted apple-moth, Akland was sprayed heavily with posion, 6 times over my old house, I bailed until it was over, OZ is the same, PTB all over the area, pine gap the most notorious...its everywhere, nowhere is immune, BUT in saying that I would rather be in the southern hemisphere than elsewhere...OZ suits me for the self sufficiant living... Love and peace to all my fellow Kiwis...

07-19-2009, 02:22 PM	#8
mudra Avalon Spiritual Mother Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: belgium Posts: 4,919	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Friends visit my thread: Radiant zones and community building...Where are we up to ? http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=15480 loving kindness mudra

10-23-2009, 04:02 AM	#10
Ross H Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Queensland Australia Posts: 507	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hi Barron, yes Oz is full of covert, secret op's and have heard a few weeks ago the NWO is making OZ its home base??? I have to research this some more! Pine gap is supposedly a star-gate facility as well as Alien underground facilities... NZ is interesting...some background info: The late Hon Robert Muldoon, ex prime Minister, free mason. When he was finance minister under then prime minister Keith Holyoak, he was also treasurer of the world bank. He was reconigsed as a very talented mind and was told to get NZ into debt. While finance minister NZ was in the black to the tune of some 2 million dollars, NO debt at all! When he became Prime minister he started the "THINK BIG" projects. Refinaries, Clyde dam, Smelters, military and others. This was the begining of our debt which is now in the tune of 100's of billions of which we have only ever paid back some interest. Typical "get them into debt syndrome" as seen through out the world. Roger Douglas was another follow on...NZ has been an easy target to experiment with global financial dependency and tech such as the first country to fully embrace EFTPOS, mobile ph's, cloning and other "trial' experiments, small population base, easy to convince, easy to control. North Head...Davenport...always a suspect for underground, under water activities, areas where public are not allowed. Spy stations near Bulls. Our "anti nuke" stance is really a joke. I am convinced that usa nuke subs have been in our waters since the war. Also there have been a few 33 degree masons with outrageous power's of which my late Uncle was one of them! NZ is as corrupt as you can imagine! Also several years ago my Father also a mason said to me when HELEN CLERK won second term that one day she will be head of the UN??? well here she is at position 3 of the UN. Hmmm you gotta start to think WTF??? However this is typical of all of the west so no biggy really tho many kiwis think we are a green clean soveriegn country tho we are under the british monarcy and dictated to as such. peace and love to all...

09-10-2008, 12:39 PM	#11
reZak Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Czech rep. But traveler Posts: 15	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hi Anasazi and everyone. I will fly to NZ 13.september. I am interested in sustainable independent houses called earthships... so mainly Iam going there to get some practical experiences with them, helping some people and communities to build them. I wont to Join and live with waken people in community, but now I am still learning about survival, alternative energies and stuff to be able to contribute more. Iam flexible enought to go enywhere and meet anybody who wont to start community. Peter, can I have a look how are you doing on your place when i am near? Do anybody knows about this ones? http://directory.ic.org/21812/Earthwise_Valley http://www.savita.co.nz/

09-11-2008, 09:11 AM	#12
linkes Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wellington New Zealand Posts: 45	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew I’ve also noticed the chem. trails here more so than when I lived in South Africa. I heard that chem. trails are silver particles placed in the atmosphere to reflect the damaging rays from the sun. It would make sense considering the hole in the ozone layer is right on top of us. I am not saying its a solution but think about it where would you implement the idea in the first place, well where the issue is the worst. None the less I love NZ We are in the Southern hemisphere at the ass end of the world, Bonus if nuclear war had to break out in Europe or America We are greener than the rest of the world Bonus We are at the end of the earth and have like very little oil BONUS Also think about it we are a population of 4 million and the amount of farms if the world had to go bust electronically and financially we have the resource to keep plodding along. Here’s to NZ ground crew Peace and Blessing Linkes

09-11-2008, 09:39 AM	#13
sakuna Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NZ Posts: 11	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew My understanding/knowledge of chemtrails suggests they provide a medium/carrier for the transmission of sound/light waves to affect biorythmic patterns, targeting primarily weather & human behaviour. (evidently not for our benefit) Dumbing us down & rehearsing the global warming climate catastrophe endgame. Best Regards

09-29-2008, 10:06 AM	#15
FoxForceFive Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 13	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew I am in Oamaru. I suspect that any attempts at bringing together a ground crew in a small community will involve the whole town itself reconnecting and banding together - the whole 'know your neighbour' thing. The problem is, most of us these days learn about teamwork through such esteemed reality tv shows as 'Celebrity Treasure Island' and 'Castaway'. I am positive that a place like ours would remain relatively self-sustainable when it comes to growing our own food off the grid, as it were.

11-24-2008, 06:51 AM	#17
MAXIMISE Guest Posts: n/a	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hi I have a network of people and I am putting things into place, our website will be on line in a few weeks, we will be takeing the offensive and also will be acting on developed plans if the worst care senario occurs. Feel free to e-mail me if you want to know more. Robert

11-30-2008, 04:48 AM	#18
MAXIMISE Guest Posts: n/a	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hi Just a clarification, I am here for people who want to network, communicate and educate other people, also to find solutions for the young people regarding their short and long term survival, as they are the future. Robert Shariff Leader O Aotearoa Waka PS: in the future gold and silver will be meaningless, water and land brings life.

12-02-2008, 02:04 AM	#19
Sol Invictus Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 599	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew My wife and I went to the high commission, and asked about living in NZ. They were really helpful until it got to education of our little kiddie and immunisations. Cannot educate at home 'unless you can satisfy the education secetary that she will be as well educated and as regulated as she would be at school'. So in short, we said thanks, and **** you. brain washing? no way - we teach at home because we know how the state wants robots and docile sheep. they were very taken aback, but it made us realise we are in a good place. Oh and about child hood mandatory vaccines.... NZ just got scrubbed from the 'to do' list. Last edited by Sol Invictus; 12-02-2008 at 02:35 AM.

02-06-2010, 12:46 AM	#20
Waterman Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 345	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hi New Zealand Ground Crew, It has been a long time since I have been on the forum but there is some interest in finding communities in New Zealand from some folks that listen to my radio broadcast, The Waterman Files on Argusoogradio.org Please feel free to contact our community coordinator at community@mailvault.com and visit us at the new site http://thejohnchronicles.wordpress.com Hope to hear from you. John Waterman

02-11-2010, 02:07 AM	#21
caspyan Guest Posts: n/a	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew I'm planning on GETTING OUT of NZ as I believe almost all the country will sink during a pole-shift. The country is very flat and cannot survive tidal waves - I discovered the highest South Island town is Arthurs pass (its tiny with a few dozen people who live there year round). The most worrying thing is the North Island is full of VOLCANOS (Auckland city has around 10). There's a massive earthquake fault running through Wellington & the South Island - see image below (sorry the faultline through Wellington is NOT shown here). The North Island has huge volcanoes running down its middle (one erupted in the 1990s & another erupted in the 19th Century destroying the "Pink & White terraces" - the 8th wonder of the world). Here's a picture of the Kermadec Trench just to the right of the North Island & you can see "train tracks" to the North of the North Island - the huge volcanoes run in the middle of these train-tracks down the North Is - see picture: You'll need to research some of my above points yourself as I can't explain everything in detail in one post. Last edited by caspyan; 02-11-2010 at 10:21 PM.

02-11-2010, 06:00 AM	#22
Peter Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 41	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew So Caspyan, where are you going to run to ???... Did you know that Arnold Schwartzeneger is having a $9 million house built at Queenstown. I'd imagine someone like him would be in the "know" if there was going to be any trouble here, even if he's as thick as a donkey's fore skin. Also lots of Illuminati are moving to NZ and Aus, there are already over 10,000 retired American military officers living around Pine Gap in western Australia where there's supposed to be an alien base. I'm not at all worried about the pole shift my intuition sayz we're safe here, remember we create our own reality so if you think you're gonna get caught up in a natural disaster it will follow you where ever you are. Why don't you start building an Ark or buy an old life boat from the coast guard and plonk it on top of a mountain somewhere and just wait....... Good luck, Luv an stuf, Peter. Last edited by Peter; 02-11-2010 at 06:04 AM.

02-11-2010, 10:37 PM	#23
caspyan Guest Posts: n/a	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Peter, there's no need to be sarcastic and tell me "to build an ark" - I'm only presenting facts, and sharing my conclusions from them. You asked where I'm going to run to - this is difficult because I saw a world map with safe zones on Avalon - one safe zone is a circle through Mongolia & Russia (- impossible to move there because of bureaucracy), and the other circle was through South America (- land prices here have gone from almost zero to thousands of dollars an acre, so I cannot afford it even though countries like Paraguay & Guatemala has easy citizenship programmes). So I'm continuing to learn and I hope after 21/12/2012 when nothing happens land prices will drop down in South America, so its possible to move there. By the way the elite are building houses in all continents to have back up plans - e.g. the Queen owns land in every continent - including Denver airport where there's a big underground base - see "Conspiracy Theory 2012" by Jesse Ventura on youtube - VERY INTERESTING.

02-20-2010, 10:25 AM	#25
HaveBlue Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 57	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Great post and graphic Ross. The only reason NZ exists is because of what you've posted. Where I am is extinct volcano area in Dunedin. I live beneath a 12,500 one. We get little movements often, They are small though. But I like it here. I would get out if and when I had to.