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Old 12-15-2009, 11:24 PM   #1
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Bill: Thanks again for all the info. I sent you a small message as you requested.

Yes the contact was physical (between this person and the Anu*) and I believe 100% was/is the real deal.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:15 AM   #2
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Have you ever considered doing an interview with Anna Hayes? If you ever did, that would be an astonishing interview. But be warned that lady is packed full of information. She talks kind of fast. And maybe you should consider playing a leading role in the interview process. That would be an interesting twist.
Yes - Kerry wants to do this. (Nothing yet scheduled, though.)

Why do you think I should play a lead role in that? (curious...)

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Are you aware of an ET force coming in to clean up our mess and rid the planet of tyranny? If so, you can PM me. We don't want to scare the folks here. Or you can just say, yes or no. lol
No... please see my reply on p.18 (#435) here.

We have to clean up our own mess. We have to face what we have done. I doubt anyone else out there will overtly intervene in that unless (a) the ecosphere really would be destroyed and also (b) there were resources here of some kind (and I include DNA and cultural heritage as resources) which ETs would want to protect for reasons best known to themselves.

In my view, the challenge is for us to wake up, get responsible and competent, and handle the vast, backlogged accumulation of serious problems without our 'parents' having to do it all for us.

We have to bear in mind that (b) above is an important factor: [reworded] the investment the ETs might have as stakeholders in Planet Earth. There are plenty of planets out there - probably billions or more. Depending on the ETs' spiritual orientation, they may well just leave us to it as it's all part of our learning as souls.

Maybe some day (and there's an infinity of time, remember: in all of existence no-one's going anywhere... we're all here to stay) we might learn to get it right. If we lose this game, we just control-alt-delete and start again personally. And again, and again... this is what karma is.

It might possibly be the ultimate egotism: that we humans believe there's anything special about us or Planet Earth.

I say that for necessary thought-provoking perspective. A little humility might help us all realize the mess we are in.

But actually, I do believe there's something special about us here and now... hence all the interest, attention and subtle assistance (or interference) from outside.

I talk about some of this a little more in my Freedom Central interview. This is an important and interesting topic for me, hence my recent long replies

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There is much activity going on with the vortexes appearing along with many reports of ufos. Are many of these sightings coming from Earth bound Humans? What is your opinion?
I really don't know. The best argument I've seen that the Norway spiral wasn't just a malfunctioning rocket is that all sightings and photos of it were face on, whatever the perspective. And the Chinese video of the same thing, first rotating one way and then the other, really got my attention. So at the moment I'm just waiting for the next one

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Have you seen the video of the Brazilian man reporting that the Pleiadeans landed and were testing for dimensional frequency readings to make a golden path appear to a portal?
No... I really don't know much about the Pleiadians apart from what I've read, as everyone here has.

As I stated in an earlier answer, I did know someone very well about 15 years ago who I (and she) were as sure as we each could be that she was an incarnated Pleiadian, this being her second lifetime here.

She had detailed intact memories and told me that one reason she had come here was that things in the Pleiades were not going so well any more and that there were all kinds of political and other problems there, and she was disillusioned - so she came here to help out and also take a break.

We talked about this at great length and it was all pretty real for me at the time. She was tall and slim, delicate, sensitive, highly intelligent, psychic, had beautiful blue eyes, earned a living by making (under contract) exquisite fine-pen illustrations of archeological findings... and had dark hair. If she'd been blonde, she could have stepped straight out of a UFO.

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On PA (as well as some of the other 2012-related forums I watch), some people are of the opinion we will just ascend into 4D/5D space, and thus won't have to worry too much about practical things like food and shelter. As a skeptic, it's unfortunate that most of this info is channeled/intuitive as it is not completely possible to authenticate the source.

I'm curious to hear your personal views on the endgame. Do you have any insider information on or from the people promoting 2012 as personal ascension?
Please see all my comments above and in my post yesterday, #435 here.

Probably more later today - very best to all, B
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Old 12-18-2009, 03:30 PM   #3
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This is an important and interesting topic for me, hence my recent long replies.
Thank you for that in two ways.
1. It has been a difficult thing, trying to get a very detailed picture of what you think, out of all the interviews you've done. Congratulations, because that is at it should be.

On another thread here, the subject came up (often does) about the interviews all just "being there", good, bad, mostly true, mostly BS, or whatever, that B & K didn't put some kind of disclaimers or "flavoring" to them in advance. I said "Say 'Thank You', they just paid you a compliment." That you had simply put it out there, think of it what you will. (The possibility that all things are possible, always seems the most daunting, I guess.)

I confess I have yet to listen to the Freedom Central interview, but as today will be a "slower day" for me. twill happen.

2. Because of what you're doing with PA/PC you do run through all the different folk who touch on "all this" at a faster pace than most, hearing your impressions of diff folk, and subjects is still helpful, despite the silly "he said, then you said" stuff it seems to attract. Much appreciated. BTW, a filtered page of just your posts is helpful.
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I have a friend of 15 years, engineer, physicist, inventor, all around "crazy old fart, and a "former Scientologist" (if there is such a thing) and auditor. He has, to my knowledge, not attended a single "official" function of any kind in all the time I've known him. Yet not a meeting goes by, between us, where he does not point out some bit of "Ron said this", or "Ron pointed out that...". While he does this a lot, he has never once mentioned the "Church" or even hinted or tried to steer me in that way. (all the better as I would have to respond with the nightmare of helping a friend get shed of them)

My take is that he seems to have done a fairly "clean job" of separating out the man and his stuff from the organization, on his own.

I sent him the link to the Dane Tops interview last nite. Perhaps it will even get me to separate the baby from the bathwater a lil bit.
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She was tall and slim, delicate, sensitive, highly intelligent, psychic, had beautiful blue eyes, earned a living by making (under contract) exquisite fine-pen illustrations of archeological findings... and had dark hair.
I am happily married these 24 1/2 years, so if it should ever come up I will deny it, but I just have to ask...

Does she have a sister ?

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Old 12-18-2009, 04:15 PM   #4
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Mr Bill Ryan, I've been mulling whether to communicate this, you may not have any value but "something" makes me want to communicate. I had thought of sending it to the email address provided on the blog of Project Camelot, but last month I sent a picture and post I came back to the trash, plus we are writing so many that maybe when you read and had no importance, if it now has meaning.
Since it is a question not expect an answer, also understand that as they eliminated the thread leaves the post. I will use the translator to transcribe into English, though his translations are weak, so publishing in Castilian.
Yesterday morning day 17 (time in Spain) I was thinking about several issues one of them respectable work and effort carried out Project Camelot, suddenly the image of Kerry Cassidy ... (normal to think about it) its image appeared in my mind that sounded at once: "Sam - Samanta and Samanta," the last "a" was almost imperceptible.
Wanting to focus my attention on it to make its image relevant information (Bill Ryan) was filed, followed by another picture of a man is placed before (with force) to his and sounded a word.
The appearance of the man told me it was an Indian, the feeling was of a proud man (in a good way).
Then write the sound is not the word for on this occasion did not see if I heard it:
NIHE or nije
I know the English vowels are pronounced differently and read Castilian (Spanish) the sound is literally, not know the meaning.
The sound was overwhelming and with the accent typical of speech.
I was going to try to reproduce the word to send it but being a woman in my female voice would not sound the same.
Other images I've "seen" during the day and am not relate with you because some of them interpret in another world.
I repeat that you may not have any value, but since yesterday it has increased the need to communicate. Why do not intend to pester if I bothered to apologize.
Greetings to all.



(Señor Bill Ryan, he estado meditando si comunicarle esto, tal vez no tenga ningún valor pero “algo” me incita a comunicárselo. Había pensado mandárselo a la dirección de correo que se proporciona en el blog de Proyecto Camelot ,pero el mes pasado le mandé unas imágenes y el correo me llegó de vuelta a la papelera, además seremos tantos los que les escribimos que quizás cuando lo leyese ya no tuviese importancia; si es que ahora tiene significado.
Como no es una pregunta no espero respuesta, también entendería que como se sale del hilo eliminasen el post. Utilizaré el traductor para transcribirlo al inglés, aunque su traducciones son deficientes, también lo publicaré en castellano.
Ayer día 17 por la mañana (horario en España) me encontraba reflexionando sobre varios temas uno de ellos la respetable labor y esfuerzo que realizaba Proyecto Camelot, de repente la imagen de Kerry Cassidy…( algo normal al pensar en el tema) su imagen apareció en mi mente a la vez que sonaba :”Sam - Samant o Samanta” ,la ultima “a” fue casi imperceptible.
Queriendo centrar mi atención en ello para lograr información de interés su imagen (Bill Ryan) se interpuso, de seguido otra imagen de un hombre se antepuso (con fuerza) a la suya y sonó una palabra.
La apariencia del hombre me indicó que se trataba de un indio, la sensación era de un hombre orgulloso (en el buen sentido).
A continuación escribo el sonido no la palabra pues en esta ocasión no la vi si no que la oí:
NIHE o NIJÈ
Sé que las vocales en inglés se pronuncian y leen diferente al castellano (español) el sonido es literal; no sé el significado.
El sonido era contundente y con el acento típico del habla.
Iba a intentar reproducir el vocablo para enviárselo pero al ser mujer en mi voz femenina no sonaría igual.
Las demás imágenes que he “visto” a lo largo del día y madrugada no las relaciono con usted, ya que algunas de ellas las interpreto de otro mundo.
Le repito que puede que no tenga ningún valor pero desde ayer se ha acrecentado la necesidad de comunicarlo. No pretendo incordiar por eso si he molestado pido disculpas.
Saludos a todos.)
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:03 PM   #5
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There's a huge amount of rebuilding to do. Has anyone here ever spent time in Africa or India?

I've traveled in Africa a lot. (I spent much of the first 8 years of my life there, and have returned frequently.) Tell those guys that they're going to ascend out of their poverty and disease and hunger. We need to take responsibility for the mess we have all created in this world.

There's a VAST clean-up to do that may take a generation or more. This is where the real learning and growth will take place. We all need to face what we have done.

So: I suspect we've all got our own work cut out for quite a while yet. The Indigos are still coming into the world - they chose their timing perfectly, and won't have missed any party.
Uncle John here: Bill, I was very impressed with your Freedom Central interview. I'm very appreciative of your responding to questions and pray you continue this.

For the present, I don't have any direct questions for you, but I do have several points I would appreciate your response to.

Do humans have the freedom or power or chance to change our world for the better? It seems that from your responses, your answer is yes. Currently, my opinion is no.

I believe that offworlders run the show on the earth. My perspective is that the offworlders accomplish this by use of mind control of every human living.

I've posted many times that it is my firm belief backed up with mountain of evidence that a human's memory and consciousness is not located inside their body. The memory and consciousness is actualized by some unknown and unlocated mechanism. It appears that some collection of offworlders has access privileges in this mechanism.

For ten years, I've pointed out chemtrails to over one thousand random people I've encountered. To my great surprise, less than one percent of those were able to conceptualize what I was pointing out. It was exactly like some one has inserted a line of code in their consciousness mechanism such as this: "If chemtrails are brought to consciousness, ignore it."

If humans don't have to freedom to consider a particular thought, then what freedom do we really have?

How can the majority of every policeman and fireman in New York City know that 9/11 was an inside job and yet not one of them takes any action?

Bill, if you or a loved one got cancer, would you recommend following a MD's advice or would you recommend one of the many proven methods to cure cancer that don't involve cutting, burning or poisoning?

I dream every night and I am convinced that my dreams are not choreographed by my mind. Who has the power to insert these dreams into my mind? How is this accomplished? For what purpose if not for controlling me?
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:20 PM   #6
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As UncleJohn and I appear to sit on "opposite sides" of the answer, to this (I asked similar stuff here), I am very curious, too.

I think you've stated that "the answer is still within us" fairly well, just the same...

The notion of a "closed loop" scenario dislikes me. To know that to be the case, well... perhaps we could all benefit more from simply taking up Golf, and putting in our time.

Then comes,
"Ah, that's what you're meant to think... that there is hope. That is the carrot and stick to keep you moving peacefully along."
But then you're back to a circular thing with no real resolution. This then becomes another valid argument for Golf.

Perhaps I should re-examine my feelings about the game, but it just doesn't seem that interesting, to me.

If we are meant to be that controlled, and have somehow "slipped our bonds" then it occurs to me that a species that dispassionate, and powerful would simply re-cycle our species, salvaging what biological material needed. We wouldn't even know it happened. Again, circular.

Anyway, I guess this is another vote to hear your thought on this,

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Old 12-22-2009, 10:35 PM   #7
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I confess I have yet to listen to the Freedom Central interview, but as today will be a "slower day" for me. twill happen. Fred
Well, I can vouch for that one. If you want insight into how a man thinks... just listen to him for 2:20 minutes, or so. If it's so easy to criticize someone in the public eye then he should probably be accused of being a gentleman, also.

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Old 12-22-2009, 11:06 PM   #8
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Bill,

Is there anyway that you can archive the audio blogs that you have done on your sight. I have heard the 15 min one, but I was under the impression that there was a longer one done not too long ago, It was yesterday or two days ago.


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Meester Zen !

Good ta seeya, sir!
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Old 12-23-2009, 12:05 AM   #10
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Hi Bill

you said on more tthan one occasion that the guardian/positive ETs, can't/wont help the situation we're in.
at thw same time, and it is apparent, that these guys are wholeheartedly watching over camelot and your good selves..which is great..
but in your mind, could the mentorship, that is assistance be partial? thanks.
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Hi Bill

you said on more tthan one occasion that the guardian/positive ETs, can't/wont help the situation we're in.
at thw same time, and it is apparent, that these guys are wholeheartedly watching over camelot and your good selves..which is great..
but in your mind, could the mentorship, that is assistance be partial? thanks.
I don't understand why they won't help. Surely it doesn't take their advanced inteligence to clearly see that the majority of this planet is being controlled and manipulated by a few nasty, greedy, selfish cretins who have done it in such a way that we have no way of finding out who they really are. How can they not help us? they can see we have been tricked and taken advantage of.
This is something that just does NOT make sense to me, why would good ET's only meet with and do business with the the people who claim to lead and govern the countries, when they know that even if they are not directly the bad guys, they are controlled by them?
If they were really good Aliens why would they want to keep themselves secret and only deal with the people who manipulate us?
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I don't understand why they won't help. Surely it doesn't take their advanced inteligence to clearly see that the majority of this planet is being controlled and manipulated by a few nasty, greedy, selfish cretins who have done it in such a way that we have no way of finding out who they really are. How can they not help us? they can see we have been tricked and taken advantage of.
This is something that just does NOT make sense to me, why would good ET's only meet with and do business with the the people who claim to lead and govern the countries, when they know that even if they are not directly the bad guys, they are controlled by them?
If they were really good Aliens why would they want to keep themselves secret and only deal with the people who manipulate us?

I agree completely. I am not saying that we do not need to do the work to clean up and get us out of the situation we are in, but for that to happen we, Terrans, need to be on the same page. This is where the "good aliens" can help. They could help most get to the same page. I posted about this a little earlier but I felt un easy about posting it for some reason.


I do not understand the reason for the "good aliens" not helping out because it is our problem, when other aliens have been interfering all along, maybe even from the very beginning. There has already been intervention. Just only from the bad ones. They say that a majority have to want to have help from the good aliens. That is a catch 22. In order to want help they have to know help is there. Furthermore, they have to know that we need help. Some have an inclining with trash problems and poverty, but not the true scope of things, I don't think anyone does. Maybe it is about time that we get some good intervention.

Sorry if any of that came off as aggressive. Just frustrated and have had these thoughts for a while. It just seems like a good excuse to not help humanity. All we need from them is vision to see clearly. We can handle the situation from there. But the playing field needs to be leveled.

Bill what are your thoughts?
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Old 12-23-2009, 02:14 AM   #13
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"Pied Piper of Heaven", an explanation of the current local exopolitics with a long runway of explanation. Just skip the first section to get to the "good stuff" if you wish.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2498145/L-...Calls-The-Tune

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We will not ever know where to start until we are taught, shown to our satisfactions, the truth of our origins... and, as you can imagine, there is quantified resistance to that happening.

Subject of Free Will needs definition, clarification...as I am SURE that most of us are not under standing what it is this "Free Will" IS, of which so many speak of so readily, cavalierly, but I suspect holds more depth..
I am just sure there is much more to this subject of "free will".
that's all folks!

I suspect that the perception of non-interference of "benevolent" or "rightness guidance" lead is our inability of self recognition of our own contribution toward the mess we are in.

I've been a participant/lurker of this site since it opened and am quite startled at the degree that others do not own their part in the mess we are in.

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Maybe the good ET's are waiting for us to be ready. I do not think it is because they do not want to help us.
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Old 12-23-2009, 12:16 PM   #16
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Maybe the good ET's are waiting for us to be ready. I do not think it is because they do not want to help us.
yes i think there is still quite a bit of work to do yet, the way people treat each other in everyday life is still mostly appalling.also on personal levels just because people are nice to each other on the surface doesnt mean the arent thinking bad things.

when we are fully ready and ego is crushed then no truth will be hidden,then we can get some help/guidance. i dont want other people fighting my battles anyway. i jsut want the tools on hand to make the fight fair.

this is probably best carried on in the spiritual forum or somehwere else more relevant..
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Two things today Bill mate, It's the next Camelot radio show tomorrow and we still haven't got last weeks on the site, although to be honest when I look at the subject I am not sure I want to hear it and I can't understand why Camelot had him on, so therefore I need to hear it to find out. Does that make sense.

Secondly Kerry is once again spreading fear and scaring the be jesus out of everybody, and a few days before Christmas too
What's with the Eliminating sections of the population? Is it just to reduce the amount of people on the planet?
First of all you could fit everyone on this planet comfortably with a bit of land each in Australia, leaving the rest of the world empty, so it is not overpopulated.
About 8 billion on the planet, you would have to eliminate at least a billion to make a difference, They could not get away with that!
How could "Sections of the population" be eliminated without someone noticing? Also what "sections" exactly? Who has made a decision that a certain Section of human beings has no right to life? Based on what? Rich? poor? colour? religion?
All sounds like complete rubish to me, like swine flu, just scare mongering, are you sure you are not being fed dissinfo and being made a fool of?

Edit:- I have been sitting here thinking about this and it occurs to me that it would be wonderful if the good aliens are meeting secretly with the PTB so that they can find out just who they are and when they have followed the trail to the top and got their list of the illuminati and all their followers and drones, guess who the section of the population to be eliminated would be? Now that would be a wonderful Christmas present, then with their guidance the right people could be put in charge to make the world as it should be.
Sorry, guess I'm just dreaming again, it's only the hope that one day that may happen that makes life worth while for me.
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Two things today Bill mate, It's the next Camelot radio show tomorrow and we still haven't got last weeks on the site, although to be honest when I look at the subject I am not sure I want to hear it and I can't understand why Camelot had him on, so therefore I need to hear it to find out. Does that make sense.

Secondly Kerry is once again spreading fear and scaring the be jesus out of everybody, and a few days before Christmas too
What's with the Eliminating sections of the population? Is it just to reduce the amount of people on the planet?
First of all you could fit everyone on this planet comfortably with a bit of land each in Australia, leaving the rest of the world empty, so it is not overpopulated.
About 8 billion on the planet, you would have to eliminate at least a billion to make a difference, They could not get away with that!
How could "Sections of the population" be eliminated without someone noticing? Also what "sections" exactly? Who has made a decision that a certain Section of human beings has no right to life? Based on what? Rich? poor? colour? religion?
All sounds like complete rubish to me, like swine flu, just scare mongering, are you sure you are not being fed dissinfo and being made a fool of?

Edit:- I have been sitting here thinking about this and it occurs to me that it would be wonderful if the good aliens are meeting secretly with the PTB so that they can find out just who they are and when they have followed the trail to the top and got their list of the illuminati and all their followers and drones, guess who the section of the population to be eliminated would be? Now that would be a wonderful Christmas present, then with their guidance the right people could be put in charge to make the world as it should be.
Sorry, guess I'm just dreaming again, it's only the hope that one day that may happen that makes life worth while for me.
I agree with everything ! As if the ETs that can travel thousands of light years need to find a small island in the pacific ocena !????
They would meet in the secret bases, underground bases etc.... And again this story of mass extermination ?! how by who /! who would they use as "conssumer" and "suppliyers" if they kill a lot (billion people) ! Let focus on good information and not just all the nonsense that there is in the net !
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First of all you could fit everyone on this planet comfortably with a bit of land each in Australia, leaving the rest of the world empty, so it is not overpopulated.
I would suggest that anybody who cares to look at Australia on Google Earth, will soon realize that without exaggeration, approximately 80 percent of the country would be considered desert. In New Zealand where there is abundant rain and good pasture,with good management, the land can carry up to 8 or 9 head per acre. In Australia, in the areas that are not desert, the ratio is measured at about 5 to 10 acres per cow.

We live not far from the east coast on 5 acres with a miniature horse and donkey and for the last three years have had to graze them on neighboring blocks of land and supplement their feed with hay.

So I for one wouldn't suggest everyone moving to Australia - might as well suggest moving to Antarctica - at least there are no bushfires there.
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Have you heard anything about Clifford Stone and Jim Sparks recently?
What is your opinion about Whitley Strieber?
We've heard nothing recently from Clifford or from Jim. Clifford is a lovely man and we are so delighted we met with him. He's fairly reclusive and is not on e-mail.

We read Whitley's site and he has some very interesting stuff there. I very much appreciate his take on parallel timelines and alternate realities. I'm as sure as I can be that that's all valid and real - and is very hard stuff to talk about and present. We've never met him personally. I suspect we'd have a lot to share with one another.

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How do you view the relevance of suppressed Free Energy technology in the mix of Project Camelot's information disclosing mission?
Free Energy (as far as a functioning device is concerned) is still dangerous. Talking about it is one thing - having a device is another. Wade Frazier confirmed to us that the PTB have some way of remotely detecting free energy devices when they're operating (wherever they are), enabling them to close in on the person immediately.

It's a little like the issue of 'proving' what we say. As I've said and written elsewhere (in the Freedom Central interview, most recently) one of the things that keeps us safe is that we don't try to prove anything won the Camelot site. We don't have definitive proof anyway (in the form of photos, documents or artifacts) - but if we did, we'd soon be in trouble.

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Maybe somehow I have missed it, but have you ever talked about your abduction experience in more detail Bill?
On the Freedom Central interview:

http://projectcamelot.org/Bill_Ryan_...om_Central.mp3

and also in our interview with Arjan Bos:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0DqS7W4UUwE

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This is news to me. I'm not familiar with Ott's list. Does he have a blog? Or is this information available to everyone?
My inaccuracy - not a list per se. It was part of a long discussion with quite a number of people cc'd. Ott quoted the Rense smear piece and wrote (addressed to Tim White)

"Did you write this? It is an excellent exposé."

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Kerry mentioned that she has a copies of a few books, Scientologie, and The Factors. Any way of getting these online assuming they are digital form?
Everything that Hubbard ever said or wrote is archived on a Russian server:

http://lrh.myftp.org

I was one of the co-ordinators of a project several years ago that converted everything that Hubbard had ever said or written to digital form so that it was out of the control of Church of Scientology copyright.

The site we had was closed down by Church of Scientology lawyers but by then the material was all released. That cat can't be put back in the bag. It was what Hubbard would have wanted - he quoted that all his written material should always be free.

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Hello Bill,
Quoting you: 3) This is very contentious here: but I personally would not believe everything that Astralwalker claims. Some of his information is valid and interesting, some less so. As any member of this forum, he of course has a right to his opinions. But that does not make them correct.

Bill, can you please give us some examples of information from Astralwalker that is "valid and interesting" as well as some that are "less so".

Second question: Do you have any info about Obama being introduced to ET stuff?

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What should an "experienced novice" like me do next?
Be skeptical, curious, and open-minded

Don't rush to judgment or conclusion too fast... reality is VERY complicated. Always be ready to be quite wrong.

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I was a really big fan of Jordan Maxwell until I saw this video http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ent=firefox-a# which completely debunks him.
I've downloaded it and will watch this. I've already noticed some items of criticism in that video which in my opinion are definitely NOT valid. I'll report back.

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Q.1 Is their anychance of PC doing an update interview with Mr Richard Hoagland and Professor Farrell (2010)?

Q.2 Furthermore, Author Professor Michio Kaku and Author Mr Richard Phillips of "Second Ship " (2009) for 2010?

Q.3 Bill do you think ETs are abducting humans for resources or is it a coverstory for mind control operations instead by big brother ?
1) Maybe by audio sometime - video is challenging (I'd need to be there, and logistics are a problem)

2) Would love to talk to Michio Kaku sometime. I was NOT familiar with Richard Phillips, just looked him up, and am interested now

3) Abductions: there may be all kinds of agendas. Some MILABs (military abductions) do seem to be very real. Some abductions may well be nefarious (intention to control or monitor for whatever anti-human or non-human purpose). Some I believe are benevolently intended and function as hardware and/or software 'upgrades'. The subject is a minefield and is far from simple.

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Seashore....I remember this conversation on a thread and I was the one who responded. Clif never said he was a paid CIA agent. He said Deagle was a nonstarter..to say I am upset that you made the wrong claim is quite the understatement. And I am checking to find out if Clif EVER had a PI check out Deagle which I am quite sure is more false information posted here. I will report back as soon as I get an answer
Hello, Francie: I learned this from Clif myself in an e-mail dated 14 April this year.

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Bill, I know that David Wilcock did a presentation mentioning the pineal gland in the brain and how there was much symbolism of it in antiquity but have you read The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Rich Strassmen? He's one of the only researchers to experiment with DMT
I'm very wary of the use of drugs and do not endorse it.

Read The Master Game by Robert S DeRopp.

The thesis of this classic book (brief summary) is that a powerful and positive drug experience can be useful to show what is possible in terms of human mind-expansion and perception. BUT ONCE ONLY. After that, use non-drug techniques (and there are many).

The first drug experience is often always the most powerful. If one tries to repeat that endlessly, the effects usually are less and less and one gets psychologically hooked, always chasing one's own tail in a diminishing spiral of frustrating experience. It can be a trap.
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Free Energy (as far as a functioning device is concerned) is still dangerous. Talking about it is one thing - having a device is another. Wade Frazier confirmed to us that the PTB have some way of remotely detecting free energy devices when they're operating (wherever they are), enabling them to close in on the person immediately.

It's a little like the issue of 'proving' what we say. As I've said and written elsewhere (in the Freedom Central interview, most recently) one of the things that keeps us safe is that we don't try to prove anything won the Camelot site. We don't have definitive proof anyway (in the form of photos, documents or artifacts) - but if we did, we'd soon be in trouble.
So would Project Camelot feel it's too dangerous to be involved with disclosing advanced Free Energy hardware?

I'd think many people are tired of the talking heads in the FE community and ready for something of substance. If given the opportunity, would Project Camelot not help in someway to facilitate the release of practical FE hardware to the public?

It's unfortunate so many look to the gatekeepers for the solutions that will never manifest. Indeed, it is frustrating to see so many with limited paradigms regarding this subject.

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So would Project Camelot feel it's too dangerous to be involved with disclosing advanced Free Energy hardware?

I'd think many people are tired of the talking heads in the FE community and ready for something of substance. If given the opportunity, would Project Camelot not help in someway to facilitate the release of practical FE hardware to the public?

It's unfortunate so many look to the gatekeepers for the solutions that will never manifest. Indeed, it is frustrating to see so many with limited paradigms regarding this subject.

Peace.
Going by Bill's announcement on the front page of PC, it looks like they are at least going to try and do something.

One idea, if they pull it off, would be to have a demo or two along with the testimony.

I understand the reticence regarding trying to release the devices if the suppression stories are true. Too many people have died trying. I am impressed with both Bill and Kerry's drive and courage. If they don't release something it is for VERY good reasons.
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Todd, Kerry and I are discussing the idea of a major Advanced Energy Conference - a physical one - in the Washington area for the second half of next year: a kind of Advanced Energy counterpart of the May 2001 Disclosure Project Press Conference, in which Free Energy pioneers would assemble on stage to make a combined statement to the press, media and attendees about the urgent importance of accepting the reality of Advanced Energy systems to help this planet at a time when they are absolutely most needed. This is a big, bold idea and it might just work. All feedback, ideas and contributions are welcome.
After reading this I do have this contribution:
Please do it!
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