WHY 90% of People WILL take the Mark of the Beast

[Kris Riley]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

i do NOT call these people that

the powers (that think that they) be

that's what i call them



Brightest blessings
Susan
The eXchanger
(who is NOT ill)

For some reason I found myself reading your post from bottom to top. It seems like the way for me. Good wisdom in your words. I agree the more power you give to the powers that be, can make them more significant.

[Kris Riley]

Originally Posted by QUESTINY

Do you know the RFID is in the money. Here is what happens when you microwave the bills. Notice it is in the LEFT Eye of Jefferson.

What the.....I guess this is your money or a picture you found? That would be a huge undertaking. What do you think would be the point of it? I mean besides tracking it.

David Wilcox wrote:

"D: Yeah, I’m not saying it’s bad. In fact, the Gnostic Christians knew that Christianity was going to become a negative force. And that’s why, when you go into the Book of Revelation and you’re reading about the Antichrist, it doesn’t say 666 is the number. It actually says six hundred, three score thirty, and six. And before that little passage, it says, for he who hath ears, let him hear. Now, for anybody who’s a cabbalist, meaning somebody who knows the secret magical tradition, when it says that little phrase, for he who hath ears, let him hear, it means take the numerical value of each letter and add ‘em up, and the number that you get from this passage is the secret code.

So when you add up the passage that describes the Antichrist and the number of the beast as being 666, the number it adds up to is 3160. And that number, in the secret code, is Lord Jesus Christ.

So what this -- and I know it’s going to sound crazy, but you can read all this in a book by John Michell, called The Dimensions of Paradise. And when you actually go through the account of the Antichrist in the Bible, what it says is that the Antichrist would be wounded on the side and yet did live and fashioned into an idol to be worshipped by all peoples, in nations, of all tongues.

And there is nothing else we see in the world except mainstream fundamentalist Christianity that fits that. So, they knew. They knew that the original positive message of Jehoshua (which is actually the real name of Jesus, bastardized into the name Jesus) ... Jehoshua’s teachings were positive. They taught service to others. They said, love thy neighbor. They didn’t say, love thy neighbor, provided that he’s not a faggot, or that he’s not ..."

He makes an interesting observation, and certainly his interpretation can be added to the tens of thousands before him that has applied their human reason to this Mark of the Beast. However, over the years, I'm not so sure one can identify the mark using history+reason. Granted, if the Scriptures themselves are false and filled with contradictions among themselves, then logically there is no certainty as to what they can mean. The conclusion must mean there is no divine order of things, but rather caos, circumstance and chance. Indeed for the finite mind, this too requires faith to believe. Mathematics is not the litmus test in my opinion.

Therefore, when understanding the Mark of the Beast, we should look only to the source documents for which arises the text itself. If indeed the Scriptures are the source, perhaps we can learn from Christ Himself, when He writes, "Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God." (Matt.22:29) compared with "And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?" (Mk.12:24) and as to help aide those who have ears to hear, "And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself." (Lk.24:27) compared with "Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day" (Lk.24:45-46).

You see dear reader, even if one does not believe the Scriptures to be true, nor even believe them to be remotely reliable, it is still best to appeal to them to define its words. Contrary to the Papal Antichrist, the Scriptures must be interpreted by themselves. The most faithful way to define what words mean in those source documents are by the source documents only. Words and doctrine (in this case eschatology) cannot be defined by human reason, nor by history, nor by the "sacred" traditions of the church. The Scriptures must be interpreted in their "literal sense". This literal sense is not defined as that which appears at face value--but rather the literal sense is that sense which the author (God) intends--that "intended meaning" which is taken from the words themselves, whether the words are to be taken strictly or figuratively. The literal sense is that which the words are intended to mean as opposed to simply what they "appear" to mean.

Again, the "literal sense" does NOT mean what they "literally" mean, as claimed by the Evangelicals and the wicked Neocon's, but can and MUST mean what the author "intended" them to mean. Simply, whether the author is God or mere man/women, the source best qualified to define what its meant by what is said is the author themselves...this logically there can be no disagreement.

In respect to the Mark of the Beast, I don't believe the author intended for the meaning of "six hundred, three score thirty, and six" to be that as explained above by Mr. Wilcox. Although I find his taped discussion highly informative, my suggestion is to look more to the Scriptures themselves for the true definition of the Mark.

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by Kris Riley

For some reason I found myself reading your post from bottom to top. It seems like the way for me. Good wisdom in your words. I agree the more power you give to the powers that be, can make them more significant.

Thank you, for your compliment

i wish i could write in pictures...the ones, i see in my mind

YOU are not the first to tell me, they read my post from bottom to top,
some people say, they see power animals, in the margins, like wings,
and, things like that !!!

i hope, some of them, are full of usual "gems"
& "tidbits" of information that are useful...

there are a few, who do NOT like my style, and, get mad, about the margins,
once, upon a time, they used to get mad at me, for, writing things,
that made their mind think,
instead, of giving them, the answer...
right off the bat !!!

if you do NOT do the work,
to mine, the words, and, dance with them a little,
to them, i say,
you will never find the diamond, let alone need the polish, to shine it

it is a time, of a great awakening, in this world...

we are all here, to engage our lower hearts, and, our lower minds,
with our higher hearts, and, our higher minds,
from the original spark, to the essence, and, everything in between,
and, toss that out into the ethers...
there are many who sparkle, and, even a few who glow,
either way, you are, what you are,
by a choice, and, how well you can intend !!!

Letting others, make our choices, for us
is dangerous, the most expensive ride of all,
is, those who seek a "free ride"...

in all my experience, when someone has told me,
it will NOT cost you a dime, it has cost me,
many quarters...or, if only you would lend me the money,
i promise to pay you back, to them, i would say,
i would rather give you the money,
and, see, if you have a heart, to give it back...

we are in interesting times,
the best, and, the worst, happening, at once,
which are you likely to graviate towards ???

only you, can answer that question !!!

only you, can activate the altering, and, the changing, that is going on ...
it is quite a stage of characters, start eXpressing yourself,
it is NOT easy, to do this,for when you do,
you open up your mind, and, in some cases,
it opens up, to join with much higher minds,
who have been waiting for you, to ask to join them,
i have been affected, by the full moon,
in ways, in which, guardians of it,
came to greet, and, to meet me,
at 5;13 am, this morning...what a trip that was

last night, when talking to a friend,
about a date, in October, i said,
well, come outside with me, i shall show you, i know, they are already there,
and, we actually saw, a "star_ship"...

since, i have lived here, for a very long time,
i know, it was NOT a star, and, it actually "winked" at us,
and, both of us, felt this energetic eXchange.

i took a few pictures, but, have NOT managed to get
my computer, to display it...
sometimes, i toss out very high energy,
and, everything freezes, even though i have built
a few grids of crystals around it

The "only mark",
you should be entertaining at this time,
is what type of mark, you will leave if this world,
should you happen to depart,
sooner, than you might of eXpected...

every being, is, just as important as the neXt being

everything is / and, was, always created equal

it is what you do, with what you got

that is the only thing,

that will alter/or change your equation / for better, or for worse

how it is, that you actually "sum" UP

so, be the best eXpression, you can be

brightest blessings of energy, light 'n love

susan~White Lotus Star
the eXchanger

[QUESTINY]

Originally Posted by Kris Riley

What the.....I guess this is your money or a picture you found? That would be a huge undertaking. What do you think would be the point of it? I mean besides tracking it.

Hi Kris, One reason is that they have scanners that can tell them how much money you have in your pocket. Even Euros have the RFID in them. Passports too. Tracking seems to be the most logical reason.

Some more sinister reasons may be that they can influence behavior by a broadcast signal. If it can emit it can receive. I haven't been able to find evidence to this, I only bring it up because it has been theorized.

[Zarathustra]

Originally Posted by QUESTINY

Hi Kris, One reason is that they have scanners that can tell them how much money you have in your pocket. Even Euros have the RFID in them. Passports too. Tracking seems to be the most logical reason.

Some more sinister reasons may be that they can influence behavior by a broadcast signal. If it can emit it can receive. I haven't been able to find evidence to this, I only bring it up because it has been theorized.

another thought - you can't control what you cannot track

[QUESTINY]

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

another thought - you can't control what you cannot track

Good point.

[DoctorTony]

The one thing I still don't understand is that I thought WE were co-creators!
I don't want an RFID chip or anything else that takes away my civil liberty as a sovereign human being by birth right!
People have died over this for thousands of years. NO MORE!
I refuse to give in and just simply allow the change to happen without all of this external BS (ID chips, wire-tapped phones, EMF radiation in my cell phone). My concentration is on my co-creation. I want to live in peace with ALL of you and your co-creations, how fun! We don't need anything else.
It's a BIG giant dichotomy. Order out of chaos is the man-made (or reptilian-made) agenda and it is also Order out of chaos - the natural order of things (explained by Ian Lungold in the Mayan calendar, astrological positioning, etc.)
No matter what happens - it already happened - time is cyclical and so are we. Repeat, ad nauseum. Repeat, ad nauseum.
I AM A JEDI KNIGHT and A SITH LORD!
0 point here we come.

[QUESTINY]

Originally Posted by DoctorTony

The one thing I still don't understand is that I thought WE were co-creators!
I don't want an RFID chip or anything else that takes away my civil liberty as a sovereign human being by birth right!
People have died over this for thousands of years. NO MORE!
I refuse to give in and just simply allow the change to happen without all of this external BS (ID chips, wire-tapped phones, EMF radiation in my cell phone). My concentration is on my co-creation. I want to live in peace with ALL of you and your co-creations, how fun! We don't need anything else.
It's a BIG giant dichotomy. Order out of chaos is the man-made (or reptilian-made) agenda and it is also Order out of chaos - the natural order of things (explained by Ian Lungold in the Mayan calendar, astrological positioning, etc.)
No matter what happens - it already happened - time is cyclical and so are we. Repeat, ad nauseum. Repeat, ad nauseum.
I AM A JEDI KNIGHT and A SITH LORD!
0 point here we come.

Dr. T this post has gone far off field. Now it is just a bunch of ramblings for fun. We do create our own reality. The original thread was to illustrate how I perceived their agenda to play out. You will notice that it says 90% of the people. Those on this forum and other like minded people all over the world make up the other 10%. I believe this is enough to stop this RFID from becoming a reality in people. It is already in pets, livestock, and scientifically studied animals using bracelets but to track people, that will be stopped by people like us and others. We can create a better world. In order to do this we start with ourselves and then share with others. We are all connected on a level unseen. We are spiritually bonded and through knowledge and peace of oneself we will unite and defeat the "evil" in the world. Taking back our responsibility and not relying on them for our survival is what has them so paranoid. The financial system and all its many facets is what had us controlled. Their own greed and lust for power is what is bringing them down. They are now fighting amongst themselves for who will be on top and in the process showing the world the truth. An unfortunate byproduct from their point of view. In the end there will be more of us then them and some people are not as spiritually inclined as we are on this forum. We know Karma and the Universe will rule, the others who know nothing of spirituality will take the Elite...to the gallows.

[Zarathustra]

Originally Posted by QUESTINY

Dr. T this post has gone far off field. Now it is just a bunch of ramblings for fun. We do create our own reality. The original thread was to illustrate how I perceived their agenda to play out. You will notice that it says 90% of the people. Those on this forum and other like minded people all over the world make up the other 10%. I believe this is enough to stop this RFID from becoming a reality in people. It is already in pets, livestock, and scientifically studied animals using bracelets but to track people, that will be stopped by people like us and others. We can create a better world. In order to do this we start with ourselves and then share with others. We are all connected on a level unseen. We are spiritually bonded and through knowledge and peace of oneself we will unite and defeat the "evil" in the world. Taking back our responsibility and not relying on them for our survival is what has them so paranoid. The financial system and all its many facets is what had us controlled. Their own greed and lust for power is what is bringing them down. They are now fighting amongst themselves for who will be on top and in the process showing the world the truth. An unfortunate byproduct from their point of view. In the end there will be more of us then them and some people are not as spiritually inclined as we are on this forum. We know Karma and the Universe will rule, the others who know nothing of spirituality will take the Elite...to the gallows.

I echo that response.

[DoctorTony]

Originally Posted by QUESTINY

Dr. T this post has gone far off field. Now it is just a bunch of ramblings for fun. We do create our own reality. The original thread was to illustrate how I perceived their agenda to play out. You will notice that it says 90% of the people. Those on this forum and other like minded people all over the world make up the other 10%. I believe this is enough to stop this RFID from becoming a reality in people. It is already in pets, livestock, and scientifically studied animals using bracelets but to track people, that will be stopped by people like us and others. We can create a better world. In order to do this we start with ourselves and then share with others. We are all connected on a level unseen. We are spiritually bonded and through knowledge and peace of oneself we will unite and defeat the "evil" in the world. Taking back our responsibility and not relying on them for our survival is what has them so paranoid. The financial system and all its many facets is what had us controlled. Their own greed and lust for power is what is bringing them down. They are now fighting amongst themselves for who will be on top and in the process showing the world the truth. An unfortunate byproduct from their point of view. In the end there will be more of us then them and some people are not as spiritually inclined as we are on this forum. We know Karma and the Universe will rule, the others who know nothing of spirituality will take the Elite...to the gallows.

YES! Well said. I was just trying to focus more of the attention on our future, because I think that I am finally realizing that the more focus on the problem will strengthen the problem. I am not in any way discrediting or undermining the posts here. I just got an intuition of my path being led astray with this topic. It is necessary to debate this, but I am trying to focus more attention on matters of the heart, rather than playing their game of fear. I do not fear the coming days ahead because I know that WE will all make it out. I don't believe in all of this judgment. It isn't in my soul anymore.
By the way, Questiny, I have been very impressed with your posts thusfar. Very insightful.
Thank you.

[QUESTINY]

Your the Doctor! I'm glad you said that because I wouldn't want you to lock me up for insanity.

[DoctorTony]

Originally Posted by QUESTINY

Your the Doctor! I'm glad you said that because I wouldn't want you to lock me up for insanity.

Insanity might be a good thing. It is telling the mind that the old paradigms don't work. You already know that, so I don't think you can call your situation insanity.
I did not know that Thomas Jefferson's eye had a tracking device in it by the way. Is it in all of the bills?

[Dantheman62]

I like putting things in real simple terms, like I wish everybody could be an astronaut for a day just to see how small the earth really is maybe we would wake up and get along as one unit undivided.

[PodWORLD]

To my mind all sectors of society seem to have infighting. People don't seem to like anything and are retreating into intellectual and/or spiritual tribalism.

I believe 'we' will negotiate a better future or at least the perception of that because we must. It is inevitable.

[Dantheman62]

In most cases infighting is due to religious beliefs, religion has killed more people than all the wars put together! We will have a better future because we have the knowledge to do so.

[PodWORLD]

Religion is a tool in every sense. The 'mysteries' relate not only control of the 'profane' through cultism but the power of occultism over the intelligensia.

We're all in the know in one way or another.

[Dantheman62]

I just think it's a shame that so many kind good hearted people are blinded by their religious beliefs

[Captain Obvious]

Hi Dantheman62,
>I just think it's a shame that so many kind good hearted people are blinded by their religious belief

I agree, but I also think that this is something those souls wants to experience. I've had friends isolating themselves with people of similar beliefs. I've had good talks with them where I got to know what they were thinking, which I find interesting. I told them how I felt about the whole situation, and as much as I like and love them, it was their choice.

Regarding implanted microchips, I will do everything in my power to prevent that from happening to me. I won't interfere with others choices, but I can tell them my thoughts on the subject, and they, hypothetically, respond with something that hopefully both parties can learn something from.

[ForsakenFalcon]

Originally Posted by uniconr

obviously the specifics of the technology are unknown to me, but i seriously doubt their only purpose would be to store your credit information and identity. i see potential for electric shock at the push of a button, or possibly disruption of the bodys electromagnetic fields, maybe it would emit low levels of radiation, or maybe high levels of radiation, it will certainly have more functions than we will be told it does, im certain they will not be benign. also i believe that for now, body and spirit are inextricable.
there is no way i will consent to a chip inside my body

It could possiblely manipulate chemical's in the brain as too forceing someone to fall asleep if there runing from the law, or possible make someone whom know's too much and is about to leak it have serious physophrenia attack's makeing them appear completely disillusional & turn creditable People into crimeninal's.

Anything's possible right? O.o

[Ceilidh_Madigan@yahoo.com]

[QUOTE=Myra;11942]

Originally Posted by Swamisalami;

I think them RFID-chips are already nano-size. They can spray them with the chemtrails so everybody will absorb them when breathing. You won't even notice it when they are in your body........

I've heard about this, this is a scary thought.

I think some sources should be listed on this thought before it gets a little too out of hand... What good is it to just spray an area of people with micro chips? You have to have that person's information stored in the chip BEFORE insertion... so what good is it? Why would they want animals running around with RFID chips in them too? I mean, wouldn't it be confusing to have millions of squirrels running around interfering with important signals? There's enough "crazy" to conspiracy theories out there already, lets not give any more ammo to the argument of their credibility.

[QUESTINY]

Originally Posted by DoctorTony

Insanity might be a good thing. It is telling the mind that the old paradigms don't work. You already know that, so I don't think you can call your situation insanity.
I did not know that Thomas Jefferson's eye had a tracking device in it by the way. Is it in all of the bills?

All bills except for the $1 bill last I looked. This may have changed recently though.

[QUESTINY]

I think it is important at this time to explain another very crucial point to the RFID. They cannot spray it on you, give it to you in a needle without your knowledge (although they do this for experimental purposes) or force you to take it. I have mentioned before in this forum that this boils down to a spiritual war. If something is done to you against your WILL then the energy transference of that situation is not properly accounted for and a shared energy is collected between the two parties. The innocent and the administrator. This would defeat the purpose of the RFID. This is a war for your soul. You have the power. If you chose to give it to them that is your will. The Universe cannot interfere. The Universe can make suggestions just like the power brokers make suggestions. The point out the risks and rewards of the desired idea. Just as the Universe points out the risks and rewards. We all have a moral compass. We all know what is right and wrong. Many of us have lived in the wrong so long that we forget who we are. That is changing. Again, that is why this thread was created. To bring forth a change. To win back our hearts and minds.

The law of the Universe is that you cannot break Free Will. To do so would result in a Karmic punishment. For example, they cannot just kill us off without our acceptance of it. To drop Nuclear bombs on the cities right now would let God win. This is an unacceptable outcome for our Visitors and Power Brokers unless all other options were extinguished. They would do it out of self preservation to try again the next time around. They must win. They must get your soul. The only way they can is for you to give it to them.

Thanks to Avalon we can have strength in numbers.

[dolphin]

Originally Posted by QUESTINY

I think it is important at this time to explain another very crucial point to the RFID. They cannot spray it on you, give it to you in a needle without your knowledge (although they do this for experimental purposes) or force you to take it. I have mentioned before in this forum that this boils down to a spiritual war. If something is done to you against your WILL then the energy transference of that situation is not properly accounted for and a shared energy is collected between the two parties. The innocent and the administrator. This would defeat the purpose of the RFID. This is a war for your soul. You have the power. If you chose to give it to them that is your will. The Universe cannot interfere. The Universe can make suggestions just like the power brokers make suggestions. The point out the risks and rewards of the desired idea. Just as the Universe points out the risks and rewards. We all have a moral compass. We all know what is right and wrong. Many of us have lived in the wrong so long that we forget who we are. That is changing. Again, that is why this thread was created. To bring forth a change. To win back our hearts and minds.

The law of the Universe is that you cannot break Free Will. To do so would result in a Karmic punishment. For example, they cannot just kill us off without our acceptance of it. To drop Nuclear bombs on the cities right now would let God win. This is an unacceptable outcome for our Visitors and Power Brokers unless all other options were extinguished. They would do it out of self preservation to try again the next time around. They must win. They must get your soul. The only way they can is for you to give it to them.

Thanks to Avalon we can have strength in numbers.

questiny... (by the way i think you give great info and posts, but on this one i think you're not completely right)

how do you know they can't force it on you w/out your consent. how do you think the aid's virus was passed along, especially in africa? i'll tell you it was innoculated through a vaccine. it was created by a govt. funded lab and distributed via a shot, then spread through sex and other ways. do you think people who got the virus through the vaccines "agreed" to this?!!
they can and will do things against "your will".... i would hope and wish what you say is true, but karma has nothing to do w it. they've been dumping chemicals and poisons into our public water and i didn't give them consent, yet there it is. so your wishful logic isn't so sound.

nano-chip technology is here and they have the ability to do these things. it's fact.

the only hope is that word gets out to a LOT of people. and get people mad enough to stop watching their tv's to realize what is happening. if you watch alex collier's video, he says some very imp. things. i do agree we can change this though. .... through love, and to love of self! becasue if we love ourselves, we wouldn't allow govts. to keep poisioning us! i know there is a small grass roots group who is purposing legislation for the "soveriengty of our bodies. that govt. can not claim our bodies as a resource. now this is being proactive.

[QUESTINY]

Hi dolphin, I really appreciate your outstanding question. This is what makes this forum so fun! My perspective on the spiritual war that you eloquently pointed out the logical disconnect is a complicated matter that I did not fully articulate.

There are different layers to the Elites point of view. First of all from my perspective is the Elite are a group of families that have been manipulating things for many years. It may even be for thousands of years. These families may even be the descendants of the fallen angels or Nephilm. There is even evidence that they may still be the same 200 Nephilm that were the fallen ones. Lineage is of upmost importance.

With that said, there is a temporal power grab and a spiritual power grab. The temporal is about sacrifice of the innocent in order to gain power on this level of existence. To spread fear. They can feed off that fear. That energy has to go somewhere. They take the essence of the life force while performing this type of sacrifice. They do not get to take the soul during this task because the violation of free will. That person's life was knowingly taken against it's will. A conscious effort was made to destroy that universal creation. This plays into your illustration of the Aids virus. This has a high emotional energy associated to it. This is a type of power that they can harness and recreated in the physical world only. This type of power is useless in the spiritual world.

They grow hungry to be a God. In order for them to do this, they must take the soul as well while following the laws of the Universe. The Law of God. One of the laws as stated before is the Law of Free Will. If the soul is a prize to be won then that soul must willingly submit. This is a main reason many Nephilm fell during the fall of the Spiritual Earth into the Temporal Earth.

Side Note: That's right there were two earths. When they merged into one it created a great cataclysm. The two frequencies had to find a harmonic equilibrium. I believe that the 2012 is the first time the two earths are able to decouple. The Spirit Earth is able to return back to the 5th dimension from where it came. More on this latter if you like.

So you see, the sacrifice of the innocent is a temporary power that can only be manifested on this plane of existence. It gives them limited power as long as the fear and negative energy is associated to the sacrifice. The more innocent and the more emotional fear the greater the power that can be removed from the subject.

With the amount of energy in the wrapper of human beings is so large at this time due to population, it would be a waste of potential spiritual power that they could attain for them to just waste it on a Nuclear War. People must willingly accept them as their ultimate rulers first (the chip would give this spiritual power to them) and then the population reduction scenario can play out. If the person is destroyed at this future time described above then that soul energy and the temporal energy can be theirs. If they did it now before everyone willingly accepted their dominion then they would only harness the temporal energy. This energy is not everlasting.