Human looking alien clones are a reality and live among us - Page 3

Carol · 01-24-2010, 05:04 AM

I had the same thought eleni. Paola and Mel are friends. I could ask the two of them to consider getting in touch with Stefanao for an interview. I was waiting for his book to arrive because I wanted to read it first and had a list of question to put together for the interview.

Kulapops · 01-23-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by silverlightning

I really wish I had something direct and personal to go by, not only other peoples experiences and theories. How many of the stories we read here on the forum are based on first hand experiences?

It is way to easy to get caught up in a nihilistic thought experiment that looses it's connection with what's relevant.

I totally agree. I think the only real thing is our own connection to our own experience. Everything else is just story.

That's why I'm all for the path of self discovery and self learning, connection to source a universal one and moving from duality to unity. These thing are definitely something everyone can experience. So it works for me.

When I read that someone states that there are 50 planets like the Earth in the whole universe - it just gets my hackles up. How do we know that fact is correct? You might just as well go the whole hog and say there is only ONE planet in the universe like the Earth, and that is the Earth...

The christians will love you for it.

The number of planetary bodies in the whole universe is immense.

"For the Universe, the galaxies are our small representative volumes, and there are something like 1011 (means 10 to the 11, a one followed by eleven zeroes!) to 1012 stars in our galaxy, and there are perhaps something like 1011 or 1012 galaxies.

With this simple calculation you get something like 1022 to 1024 stars in the Universe. This is only a rough number, as obviously not all galaxies are the same, just like on a beach the depth of sand will not be the same in different places. "

I can't even imagine a race of beings could even know how many planets like ours there are in total... let alone have developed a Rough Guide....

K

P.S. I should add for clarity that I'm not doubting the existence of aliens among us or clones - I have no idea, so I'll have to take people's experiences as they say. However, little facts thrown into the mix like the 50 planet rule just stand out to me as far too convenient to be true. But why would someone say that if it wasn't true? It just causes a disonance in me that refuses to resonate - unlike someone telling me we're all one which does. I probably should leave the alien threads to those who've had direct experience until I do. No disrespect intended here.

burgundia · 01-23-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kulapops

I totally agree. I think the only real thing is our own connection to our own experience. Everything else is just story.

That's why I'm all for the path of self discovery and self learning, connection to source a universal one and moving from duality to unity. These thing are definitely something everyone can experience. So it works for me.

When I read that someone states that there are 50 planets like the Earth in the whole universe - it just gets my hackles up. How do we know that fact is correct? You might just as well go the whole hog and say there is only ONE planet in the universe like the Earth, and that is the Earth...

The christians will love you for it.

The number of planetary bodies in the whole universe is immense.

"For the Universe, the galaxies are our small representative volumes, and there are something like 1011 (means 10 to the 11, a one followed by eleven zeroes!) to 1012 stars in our galaxy, and there are perhaps something like 1011 or 1012 galaxies.

With this simple calculation you get something like 1022 to 1024 stars in the Universe. This is only a rough number, as obviously not all galaxies are the same, just like on a beach the depth of sand will not be the same in different places. "

I can't even imagine a race of beings could even know how many planets like ours there are in total... let alone have developed a Rough Guide....

K

P.S. I should add for clarity that I'm not doubting the existence of aliens among us or clones - I have no idea, so I'll have to take people's experiences as they say. However, little facts thrown into the mix like the 50 planet rule just stand out to me as far too convenient to be true. But why would someone say that if it wasn't true? It just causes a disonance in me that refuses to resonate - unlike someone telling me we're all one which does. I probably should leave the alien threads to those who've had direct experience until I do. No disrespect intended here.

I absolutely agree with you here...

Carol · 01-23-2010, 04:30 PM

K, I was just passing on what Stefano shared about what the W56s passed onto him. 50 planets that are able to create life in the manner that earth does. For me, even the fact that this planet earth is what is... so incredibly beautiful, is awesome in and of itself. It makes my heart happy to know there are other planets that may be similar.

As to the validity of the W56's information... who is to know? Astralwalker has astral traveled to other planets where life was very different. Another contactee, Adamski claimed to have seen a humonoid Venucian in the Mojave dessert in 1952. He had 6 friends with him and took photographs of the craft which are all genuine. Billier Mier's contacts are human looking as well. Life as we already know it exists in multiple and varied forms. Life even exists without physicality as clearly identified by the many people who have had near death experiences and returned.

In fact, one story which is positively riveting is Melon Thomas who died from brain cancer, was dead for 1 1/2 hours and came back to a body which was already into rigor mortis. He is still alive and kicking.

Have a listen. It may make your day.

http://www.google.com/search?client=...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Carol · 01-23-2010, 05:52 PM

For those who are interested here is the link to purchase a copy of Breccia's presentation.

To order 2010 Conference DVDs
Online Shopping Cart: http://shop.1asecure.com/index.cfm?DeptNo=10&Stid=5503
Phone: +1 808 323 3400

Prof Stefano Breccia presents new photos and analyses concerning the mass physical extraterrestrial contact case in Italy known as Amicizia. Over 100 people witnessed human looking extraterrestrials that were based in underground bases from 1956 to 1978 in Italy. For the first time in public, Prof Breccia relates his own direct personal experiences with the extraterrestrials.

Majorion · 01-23-2010, 06:42 PM

I have a friend/source, a guy who used to work at white sands missle range test site, then later he worked SDI, and he shared with me some very interesting information about the human looking extraterrestrials. Apparently they are a secret and highly advanced human society, and yes of earth origin, and some of the ufo cases involve these very same people. Whether they could be considered extraterrestrial by definition is another matter, because not too many are disputing their existence, but over their origins only.

Kulapops · 01-24-2010, 12:07 AM

Hi Carol,

Thanks for the link, and , Burgundia, thanks for your understanding.

I'm not saying that there aren't ETs and the myriad of phenomena that go with that. It just seems to my mind, that a lot of 'information' that is passed from said beings to human beings seems to be very dodgy in nature (to me, obviously it's not dodgy to everyone, so I apologise for my ignorance).

By dodgy to me, I mean information that either easily fits my worldview (let's say for example...'we have come to help you' ) or totally challenges my worldview ( 'we don't mind telling you that there are only 50 planets like your Earth, out of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 available' ) in order to seem like it is from a source that is 'other' that human. Other...in that it has the capacity to tell us a fact we don't or can't know or one that courts what we do know about the world to add authenticity... a bit like fortune tellers do ("Ahhh...I can see that you have been troubled lately..." is not far off from...."They told me our world is facing a great danger...." , "we must learn to live in peace with one another..."- no kidding !

I must sound like I'm having a go...and I'm not, and I apologise if my 'reasoning' affects those who've had encounters and are shaking their fist at the monitor just now. I'm not saying that anyone's experiences aren't real - I'm just disappointed at the quality of the information that such incredibly amazing events seem to leave behind. For example...it might be along the lines of...

"They told me (this challenges worldview) the council of Grabbernox has existed for 12 million years on Rangdoo and created and looked after the human race before the council was wiped out by a fleet of Xanthan warships who have now infiltrated the earth and are posing in top positions. However, they also told me (fits worldview) the Xanthan's one weakness is marshmallows and that is why it is so difficult to buy a decent marshmallow these days..."

So what I often see in the stories is a fact that is known building on a fact that is unknowable. Some fortune tellers make a living this way.

My point is, why would an alien tell me their life history? A lot of these aliens to my mind have a habit of 'spilling the beans'... on all kinds of stuff that, if I were an alien, I would be careful what I said - because it's going to reach more people than Hello magazine. Who's to say they might even have a sense of humour?

My imagination of an alien encounter would be one where I hear a noise in the back garden and I go outside and meet one messing around with my hosepipe. Embarassed at being discovered, he tells me that they need some tubing because their drinks machine has just broken... and it's a long ride home and they've no spare parts.

They ask me not to tell anyone and in return say they will andswer me any one question. I ask, 'What's it all about?' and they say...'any question but that one.' I say, 'why, because you can't tell me because of the prime directive? ' and they say , 'no, we've got no idea either... that's why we're flying around the galaxy in this thing.... looking for some answers....' ' and it's a hellish journey - the coffee tastes like tomato soup '

Best wishes to all

K

Chamber · 01-24-2010, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kulapops

Hi Carol,

Thanks for the link, and , Burgundia, thanks for your understanding.

I'm not saying that there aren't ETs and the myriad of phenomena that go with that. It just seems to my mind, that a lot of 'information' that is passed from said beings to human beings seems to be very dodgy in nature (to me, obviously it's not dodgy to everyone, so I apologise for my ignorance).

By dodgy to me, I mean information that either easily fits my worldview (let's say for example...'we have come to help you' ) or totally challenges my worldview ( 'we don't mind telling you that there are only 50 planets like your Earth, out of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 available' ) in order to seem like it is from a source that is 'other' that human. Other...in that it has the capacity to tell us a fact we don't or can't know or one that courts what we do know about the world to add authenticity... a bit like fortune tellers do ("Ahhh...I can see that you have been troubled lately..." is not far off from...."They told me our world is facing a great danger...." , "we must learn to live in peace with one another..."- no kidding !

I must sound like I'm having a go...and I'm not, and I apologise if my 'reasoning' affects those who've had encounters and are shaking their fist at the monitor just now. I'm not saying that anyone's experiences aren't real - I'm just disappointed at the quality of the information that such incredibly amazing events seem to leave behind. For example...it might be along the lines of...

"They told me (this challenges worldview) the council of Grabbernox has existed for 12 million years on Rangdoo and created and looked after the human race before the council was wiped out by a fleet of Xanthan warships who have now infiltrated the earth and are posing in top positions. However, they also told me (fits worldview) the Xanthan's one weakness is marshmallows and that is why it is so difficult to buy a decent marshmallow these days..."

So what I often see in the stories is a fact that is known building on a fact that is unknowable. Some fortune tellers make a living this way.

My point is, why would an alien tell me their life history? A lot of these aliens to my mind have a habit of 'spilling the beans'... on all kinds of stuff that, if I were an alien, I would be careful what I said - because it's going to reach more people than Hello magazine. Who's to say they might even have a sense of humour?

My imagination of an alien encounter would be one where I hear a noise in the back garden and I go outside and meet one messing around with my hosepipe. Embarassed at being discovered, he tells me that they need some tubing because their drinks machine has just broken... and it's a long ride home and they've no spare parts.

They ask me not to tell anyone and in return say they will andswer me any one question. I ask, 'What's it all about?' and they say...'any question but that one.' I say, 'why, because you can't tell me because of the prime directive? ' and they say , 'no, we've got no idea either... that's why we're flying around the galaxy in this thing.... looking for some answers....' ' and it's a hellish journey - the coffee tastes like tomato soup '

Best wishes to all

K

Superb post....Su-F'n-perb.

One of my most basic rules is that I am always wary(weary) of people selling their book.

As for the photo....meh....

First impression is a tall guy with bad fashion sense. 'Could' he be an ET? Sure.

But something like this would have held more credibility for me...

Karen · 01-24-2010, 09:53 AM

How some of the aliens take the form of humans that are dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4nvtVFtu_k&NR=1
"David Moncoeur, one of the Uks most respected researchers gives us the Robert France case - the corroborated story of a man who appeared to have been replaced with a small grey alien who projected a hologram of his victim. This extract from the East of Scotland UFO Conference at the Templar Lodge Hotel, Gullane in 2000.
Thanks to the late Stephen Prior and also to IFDNRG.com the film company who transferred some of the video rights to Andrew Hennessey the conference organiser.
A classic from the famous Dangerous Dave Moncoeu"

eleni · 01-24-2010, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Majorion

I have a friend/source, a guy who used to work at white sands missle range test site, then later he worked SDI, and he shared with me some very interesting information about the human looking extraterrestrials. Apparently they are a secret and highly advanced human society, and yes of earth origin, and some of the ufo cases involve these very same people. Whether they could be considered extraterrestrial by definition is another matter, because not too many are disputing their existence, but over their origins only.

Interesting of course! Can you tell us some of the stories your friend told you?

Majorion · 01-24-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by eleni

Interesting of course! Can you tell us some of the stories your friend told you?

I have more than one credible source, but this guy is probably my number one insider. The things he shared with me turn out to be 80% of what I've been already saying on forums for many years, and you can imagine its a very gratifying experience to get corroboration from multiple sources about things you always suspected were true. This is one of the ways I came to find 'my truth', it is by no means the absolute, but its gotta be pretty close.

My friend shared with me info about everything from roswell, to the different ets, information about psyops, black ops, ancient history, 2012, 9/11, the apollo program, and a lot of other technical stuff too. Frankly he has so many important things to say its still amazing to me that PC or some other organization haven't heard of him at all, although he likes to stay low-key and enjoys his privacy, so its probably for the best.

Cheers

eleni · 01-24-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Majorion

I have more than one credible source, but this guy is probably my number one insider. The things he shared with me turn out to be 80% of what I've been already saying on forums for many years, and you can imagine its a very gratifying experience to get corroboration from multiple sources about things you always suspected were true. This is one of the ways I came to find 'my truth', it is by no means the absolute, but its gotta be pretty close.

My friend shared with me info about everything from roswell, to the different ets, information about psyops, black ops, ancient history, 2012, 9/11, the apollo program, and a lot of other technical stuff too. Frankly he has so many important things to say its still amazing to me that PC or some other organization haven't heard of him at all, although he likes to stay low-key and enjoys his privacy, so its probably for the best.

Cheers

I'd be happy to hear about any of the above topics- okay can you start with 2012? Thanks!

mikanuotio · 01-24-2010, 09:29 PM

i have speak to clones. they are beable to read what person think and answer by speak.

they look like normal people. they was say to me "you should see they scientists" "they can hear me very loud".

i was talk with them about half hour. i was not need open my mouth.

we should no interested about them because they are under heavy mind control. they are mastered puppets who are manipulated.

i was talk with my country language. place was not my country but big city.

Majorion · 01-24-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by eleni

I'd be happy to hear about any of the above topics- okay can you start with 2012? Thanks!

eleni, thanks for your interest, but I wouldn't want to go off topic, though if you want to PM me any questions I'd be glad to answer.

Cheers

Luminari · 01-25-2010, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Majorion

eleni, thanks for your interest, but I wouldn't want to go off topic, though if you want to PM me any questions I'd be glad to answer.

Cheers

Thats no fun

Can you start a new thread and roll back the veil for us?

Interested in what your source/s have to say.

eleni · 01-25-2010, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Luminari

Thats no fun

Can you start a new thread and roll back the veil for us?

Interested in what your source/s have to say.

Yes, me too! Please start a thread about this source

clarkkent · 01-25-2010, 02:54 AM

some of the things i read here are insanely ridiculous. alien clones playing tennis.

if aliens are CEO's then they way less evolved thats for sure. im always wary of accounts that say something like in all the universe, something something and make earth super unique.

infinity is a concept hard to wrap your mind around, my guess is there are more worlds like our own than we could ever imagine, when you consider that this is only ONE physical 3-D universe we see and theres an infinite amount of them/timelines/ dimensions etc i have a hard time thinking earth is as singularly special as people make it out to be.

we tend to anthropomorhize and make everything earth-centric, to me "aliens" who corroberate that rings false to me.

-clark

eleni · 01-25-2010, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by clarkkent

some of the things i read here are insanely ridiculous. alien clones playing tennis.

if aliens are CEO's then they way less evolved thats for sure. im always wary of accounts that say something like in all the universe, something something and make earth super unique.

infinity is a concept hard to wrap your mind around, my guess is there are more worlds like our own than we could ever imagine, when you consider that this is only ONE physical 3-D universe we see and theres an infinite amount of them/timelines/ dimensions etc i have a hard time thinking earth is as singularly special as people make it out to be.

we tend to anthropomorhize and make everything earth-centric, to me "aliens" who corroberate that rings false to me.

-clark

Yes, I had those thoughts too.......the alien also looks a bit like he's taken up a Western diet.....sorry to be harsh- don't they know most earth food is plain unhealthy?

Carol · 01-25-2010, 05:24 AM

lightblue, the library is a good source of free books to research and one can often order what they are seeking and get on the list if a particular book is on reserve. We do this all the time especially if we don't want to pay an arm and a leg for a book. Certain books I buy for my own library and Stefano's research is so fascinating his book is nice to have on hand.

The W56s tend to eat fruit.

As for the disbelief of others here... well that is your "belief" and until the time is taken to do the research, "disbelief" will win out. Being skeptical is healthy. Finding the real answers for oneself even better. I shared what I know to be true. It doesn't matter to me whether anyone here accepts it or not as I've experienced over and over that the truth tends win out in the end.

I now see that sharing a part of a conversation with the person (Stefano) involved is a waste of time as the story was much more involved and I deliberately did not go into all of the details. This was something that recently happened to him and he was still dealing with the after affects (particularly since he spotted the woman who tried to run him over at the airport on his way to the conference). The point was the CTRs lack morals. They killed many of the W56s and their human contacts. They look human and want to blend in with humans. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to connect the dots here.

NeedForSpeed · 01-25-2010, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Carol

As for the disbelief of others here... well that is your "belief" and until the time is taken to do the research, "disbelief" will win out. Being skeptical is healthy. Finding the real answers for oneself even better. I shared what I know to be true. It doesn't matter to me whether anyone here accepts it or not as I've experienced over and over that the truth tends win out in the end.

How do you know it to be true?

Carol · 01-25-2010, 05:50 AM

The test of time.

I'm also a psychotherapist of 28 years. I know the symptoms of PTS when I see it.

mikanuotio · 01-25-2010, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Carol

I'm also a psychotherapist of 28 years. I know the symptoms of PTS when I see it.

you make skill by block your own mind to rule you have learn. mind is not consciousness.

mind is only what consciousness can be by fear or by rule. if you are something 28 year under rule can you be something else after 28 year is question big enough.

only what need to make is to see and feel not go with wrong people and out there not have anything what for need to go. we no need to categorise people and we no need to keep people under category and we just look for we self.

mix of alien and people as we talk person who is under rule and mind control all life is not what people ease think. that kind of life to people is very dangerous and people not understand what they lose when they lose own will under rule and mind control.

people may think they know but what people know if newer see or talk with they who are split to three part as people dna and alien dna and spirit world what can be only with rule and mind control. they who live by rule and by mind control they live so strong duality they can not break out.

mikanuotio · 01-25-2010, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Carol

The W56s tend to eat fruit.

i think everybody we like to eat more fruit than meat if we can get fruit easier than meat. is just more natural thing to do as kill only to eat too what is not as rule too and is common sense if not live by rule.

i not know what they name. i know they are out there and i was out there too.

"The W56 is an American thermonuclear warhead produced starting in 1963 which saw service until 1993, on the Minuteman I and II ICBMs."

"The LGM-30 Minuteman is a U.S. nuclear missile..."

"An Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) is a long-range (greater than 5,500 km or 3,500 miles) ballistic missile typically designed for nuclear weapons delivery, that is, delivering one or more nuclear warheads."

is name W56 as joke or nick name. only i can say they out there italy and speak multilanguage and i was there i was see and speak and i not go again.

i was not like them. they was not like me much.

mikanuotio · 01-25-2010, 06:36 AM

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some of the things i read here are insanely ridiculous. alien clones playing tennis...

-clark

they drink beer too.

they are look as people and do same but they are under hierarchy and mind control.

they have technology people not have.

they are what become under mind control.. zombie or robot.

if you wonder why somebody play tennis you need to ask what is life. life is not mind control so when they play tennis they may try to live life.

if you think they so different you think wrong. i think they like to be more as people than alien or you need to ask do you want to be reptilian or human.

i tell more how they live. they have everything timing what mean they need to be right place right time what is not they own will and they have give up they own will. they live big city what mean they are timed with spirit world as dimensions what mean too many on too small place. they live compromise everything what they are and they try to reach for who they masters via mind control.

ellie · 01-25-2010, 06:57 AM

Well, well, well, we are all on a conspiracy forum and when someone tries to give us a piece of a puzzle we become somewhat sceptical, but I suppose a healthy amount of scepticism is acceptable.

But in this instance my intuition is veering towards Carol and Paola Harris and Stefano.

I get flashes of intuition which I get validated by certain people, contacts you could call them and that is what I go by. I would say this story is right because I see other things as well, but I talk about those with my good friends I know on another forum.

Carol I suppose the English version of his book is out now right? I am gonna buy that one. Thanks for bravely giving us this information.

Remember that line in the Shakespeare play guys..................you know the one I mean so I am not going to repeat it.

01-24-2010, 05:04 AM	#1
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: Human looking alien clones are a reality and live among us I had the same thought eleni. Paola and Mel are friends. I could ask the two of them to consider getting in touch with Stefanao for an interview. I was waiting for his book to arrive because I wanted to read it first and had a list of question to put together for the interview. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198

01-23-2010, 04:30 PM	#4
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: Human looking alien clones are a reality and live among us K, I was just passing on what Stefano shared about what the W56s passed onto him. 50 planets that are able to create life in the manner that earth does. For me, even the fact that this planet earth is what is... so incredibly beautiful, is awesome in and of itself. It makes my heart happy to know there are other planets that may be similar. As to the validity of the W56's information... who is to know? Astralwalker has astral traveled to other planets where life was very different. Another contactee, Adamski claimed to have seen a humonoid Venucian in the Mojave dessert in 1952. He had 6 friends with him and took photographs of the craft which are all genuine. Billier Mier's contacts are human looking as well. Life as we already know it exists in multiple and varied forms. Life even exists without physicality as clearly identified by the many people who have had near death experiences and returned. In fact, one story which is positively riveting is Melon Thomas who died from brain cancer, was dead for 1 1/2 hours and came back to a body which was already into rigor mortis. He is still alive and kicking. Have a listen. It may make your day. http://www.google.com/search?client=...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198

01-23-2010, 05:52 PM	#5
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: Human looking alien clones are a reality and live among us For those who are interested here is the link to purchase a copy of Breccia's presentation. To order 2010 Conference DVDs Online Shopping Cart: http://shop.1asecure.com/index.cfm?DeptNo=10&Stid=5503 Phone: +1 808 323 3400 Prof Stefano Breccia presents new photos and analyses concerning the mass physical extraterrestrial contact case in Italy known as Amicizia. Over 100 people witnessed human looking extraterrestrials that were based in underground bases from 1956 to 1978 in Italy. For the first time in public, Prof Breccia relates his own direct personal experiences with the extraterrestrials. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198

01-23-2010, 06:42 PM	#6
Majorion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: ∞ Posts: 654	Re: Human looking alien clones are a reality and live among us I have a friend/source, a guy who used to work at white sands missle range test site, then later he worked SDI, and he shared with me some very interesting information about the human looking extraterrestrials. Apparently they are a secret and highly advanced human society, and yes of earth origin, and some of the ufo cases involve these very same people. Whether they could be considered extraterrestrial by definition is another matter, because not too many are disputing their existence, but over their origins only.

01-24-2010, 12:07 AM	#7
Kulapops Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Torbay, UK Posts: 704	Re: Human looking alien clones are a reality and live among us Hi Carol, Thanks for the link, and , Burgundia, thanks for your understanding. I'm not saying that there aren't ETs and the myriad of phenomena that go with that. It just seems to my mind, that a lot of 'information' that is passed from said beings to human beings seems to be very dodgy in nature (to me, obviously it's not dodgy to everyone, so I apologise for my ignorance). By dodgy to me, I mean information that either easily fits my worldview (let's say for example...'we have come to help you' ) or totally challenges my worldview ( 'we don't mind telling you that there are only 50 planets like your Earth, out of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 available' ) in order to seem like it is from a source that is 'other' that human. Other...in that it has the capacity to tell us a fact we don't or can't know or one that courts what we do know about the world to add authenticity... a bit like fortune tellers do ("Ahhh...I can see that you have been troubled lately..." is not far off from...."They told me our world is facing a great danger...." , "we must learn to live in peace with one another..."- no kidding ! I must sound like I'm having a go...and I'm not, and I apologise if my 'reasoning' affects those who've had encounters and are shaking their fist at the monitor just now. I'm not saying that anyone's experiences aren't real - I'm just disappointed at the quality of the information that such incredibly amazing events seem to leave behind. For example...it might be along the lines of... "They told me (this challenges worldview) the council of Grabbernox has existed for 12 million years on Rangdoo and created and looked after the human race before the council was wiped out by a fleet of Xanthan warships who have now infiltrated the earth and are posing in top positions. However, they also told me (fits worldview) the Xanthan's one weakness is marshmallows and that is why it is so difficult to buy a decent marshmallow these days..." So what I often see in the stories is a fact that is known building on a fact that is unknowable. Some fortune tellers make a living this way. My point is, why would an alien tell me their life history? A lot of these aliens to my mind have a habit of 'spilling the beans'... on all kinds of stuff that, if I were an alien, I would be careful what I said - because it's going to reach more people than Hello magazine. Who's to say they might even have a sense of humour? My imagination of an alien encounter would be one where I hear a noise in the back garden and I go outside and meet one messing around with my hosepipe. Embarassed at being discovered, he tells me that they need some tubing because their drinks machine has just broken... and it's a long ride home and they've no spare parts. They ask me not to tell anyone and in return say they will andswer me any one question. I ask, 'What's it all about?' and they say...'any question but that one.' I say, 'why, because you can't tell me because of the prime directive? ' and they say , 'no, we've got no idea either... that's why we're flying around the galaxy in this thing.... looking for some answers....' ' and it's a hellish journey - the coffee tastes like tomato soup ' Best wishes to all K Last edited by Kulapops; 01-24-2010 at 12:17 AM. Reason: terrible choice of colour K ! oh.. and Readability

01-24-2010, 09:53 AM	#9
Karen Project Avalon Organizer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NE Oregon boondocks, USA Posts: 1,767	Re: Human looking alien clones are a reality and live among us How some of the aliens take the form of humans that are dead. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4nvtVFtu_k&NR=1 "David Moncoeur, one of the Uks most respected researchers gives us the Robert France case - the corroborated story of a man who appeared to have been replaced with a small grey alien who projected a hologram of his victim. This extract from the East of Scotland UFO Conference at the Templar Lodge Hotel, Gullane in 2000. Thanks to the late Stephen Prior and also to IFDNRG.com the film company who transferred some of the video rights to Andrew Hennessey the conference organiser. A classic from the famous Dangerous Dave Moncoeu"

01-24-2010, 09:29 PM	#13
mikanuotio Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 53	Re: Human looking alien clones are a reality and live among us i have speak to clones. they are beable to read what person think and answer by speak. they look like normal people. they was say to me "you should see they scientists" "they can hear me very loud". i was talk with them about half hour. i was not need open my mouth. we should no interested about them because they are under heavy mind control. they are mastered puppets who are manipulated. i was talk with my country language. place was not my country but big city. Last edited by mikanuotio; 01-24-2010 at 09:34 PM.

01-25-2010, 02:54 AM	#17
clarkkent Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 319	Re: Human looking alien clones are a reality and live among us some of the things i read here are insanely ridiculous. alien clones playing tennis. if aliens are CEO's then they way less evolved thats for sure. im always wary of accounts that say something like in all the universe, something something and make earth super unique. infinity is a concept hard to wrap your mind around, my guess is there are more worlds like our own than we could ever imagine, when you consider that this is only ONE physical 3-D universe we see and theres an infinite amount of them/timelines/ dimensions etc i have a hard time thinking earth is as singularly special as people make it out to be. we tend to anthropomorhize and make everything earth-centric, to me "aliens" who corroberate that rings false to me. -clark

01-25-2010, 05:24 AM	#19
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: Human looking alien clones are a reality and live among us lightblue, the library is a good source of free books to research and one can often order what they are seeking and get on the list if a particular book is on reserve. We do this all the time especially if we don't want to pay an arm and a leg for a book. Certain books I buy for my own library and Stefano's research is so fascinating his book is nice to have on hand. The W56s tend to eat fruit. As for the disbelief of others here... well that is your "belief" and until the time is taken to do the research, "disbelief" will win out. Being skeptical is healthy. Finding the real answers for oneself even better. I shared what I know to be true. It doesn't matter to me whether anyone here accepts it or not as I've experienced over and over that the truth tends win out in the end. I now see that sharing a part of a conversation with the person (Stefano) involved is a waste of time as the story was much more involved and I deliberately did not go into all of the details. This was something that recently happened to him and he was still dealing with the after affects (particularly since he spotted the woman who tried to run him over at the airport on his way to the conference). The point was the CTRs lack morals. They killed many of the W56s and their human contacts. They look human and want to blend in with humans. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to connect the dots here. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198 Last edited by Carol; 01-25-2010 at 05:37 AM.

01-25-2010, 05:50 AM	#21
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: Human looking alien clones are a reality and live among us The test of time. I'm also a psychotherapist of 28 years. I know the symptoms of PTS when I see it. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198

01-25-2010, 06:57 AM	#25
ellie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 183	Re: Human looking alien clones are a reality and live among us Well, well, well, we are all on a conspiracy forum and when someone tries to give us a piece of a puzzle we become somewhat sceptical, but I suppose a healthy amount of scepticism is acceptable. But in this instance my intuition is veering towards Carol and Paola Harris and Stefano. I get flashes of intuition which I get validated by certain people, contacts you could call them and that is what I go by. I would say this story is right because I see other things as well, but I talk about those with my good friends I know on another forum. Carol I suppose the English version of his book is out now right? I am gonna buy that one. Thanks for bravely giving us this information. Remember that line in the Shakespeare play guys..................you know the one I mean so I am not going to repeat it.