david wilcock

[Gilgamesh]

Intent is what it all boils down to.

[jaby]

Originally Posted by Orion Morris

Jaby you are pushing buttons...

Push the button....
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=A_cB5UNGqVs

PS. Do you have a problem with me expressing myself?
Free speech and all that...
(within forum rules)

[KassandraLoves]

I have no idea why anyone cares what someone eats.

Its not the messenger, by the way, its THE MESSAGE.

Just because "the messenger" doesnt do the things you think they should, You can still take the message that they give and use it. Whether they eat meat on sunday or drive a hyrbid car or choose to be abstinent.

I dont care if Peace is a gift that comes in Satan Wrapping paper with a shiny serpent bow. Peace is Peace. See what Im sayin here???

It doesnt really matter if David Wilcock has to put protien in his body. Everyone is different and maybe it helps him have a bit more energy. Who knows. But the fact of the matter is, that its TRIVIAL. If you feel that you really need the protien then get the dang protien, if you feel that you dont, then dont. To each his own.

Besides, I dont see an "official diet plan for the people of earth" anywhere yet, do you?

I dont have any sort of problems with david wilcock. Hes just a human, just like all of us are. God forbid he changes his mind about something or actually lets his life happen.

[jaby]

Originally Posted by KassandraLoves

I dont have any sort of problems with david wilcock. Hes just a human, just like all of us are. God forbid he changes his mind about something or actually lets his life happen.

Well said......I find him very down to earth. I first saw his 4 part interview on Project Camelot a few months ago...and I was...WOW!

[GoingToFast]

I do not have a problem with eating meat but I do have a problem with the way we treat animals before we eat them, and that alone is a big reason to become a vegetarian, I haven't made the decision yet but I am considering becoming vegetarian. The way we treat animals that is meant to be food are in some cases appalling.

[SuperManny]

Originally Posted by KassandraLoves

I dont have any sort of problems with david wilcock. Hes just a human, just like all of us are. God forbid he changes his mind about something or actually lets his life happen.

Reminds me of that old Chinese saying, "Wise man changes his mind."

I don't agree with DW on everything either, (like when he said the stock market has bottomed - time will tell) but I fail to see what kind of perverse satisfaction anybody gets from putting him (or anyone else) down, and trying to make people look bad.

I was always told that if you can't say anything nice about somebody, DON'T SAY ANYTHING!

Wouldn't even bother me if our hard-working, under-appreciated mods got a little happier with the 'DELETE' key for all these negative posts! [hint, hint]

[Carol]

I would just like to know if the intent of this thread is to trash DW?

I will add this. I ran across DW's website and listened to all of the interviews.. thought he was great and paid good money to see him here during a conference. I got more from his website for free then at the conference paying a small fortune (because it was for two of us for two of his presentations). What we observed is that he did not walk his talk. However, the info that is on his web-site is excellent and well worth the investment in time to pursue.

So in this situation it is best to focus on the message and not the messanger. After all he is still very young and has a long ways to go.

[jaby]

Originally Posted by Carol

I would just like to know if the intent of this thread is to trash DW?

This was painfully obvious to me from the onset.

[sunshineseastar]

Originally Posted by jaby

This was painfully obvious to me

what ??? put a band aid on it..... one more time go listren what the guy says and then look at his actions........then read the other threads on this fourm about him to get other perspectives......gosh the blind leading the blind....

[sunshineseastar]

Originally Posted by Carol

I got more from his website for free then at the conference paying a small fortune (because it was for two of us for two of his presentations). What we observed is that he did not walk his talk.

a first person encounter........thatnks carol for being so honest.....

[sunshineseastar]

america got the best president they could for the times ??? hello......the guy would say anything to win.....all you have do do is look at every president before him to see that.......gosh he works for them and he puts on a pretty pink dress and you think hes as sweet as a kitten........but when you open the package you´ll find a wolf.......what the amerca needs is the biggest revolution in history.......AMERICA NEEDS TO TAKE ALL THE POWER FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND GIVE IT TO THE PEOPLE.......COME ON POEPLE THE FORCE IS WITH IN YOU..........DON´T BE BLIND LEADING BLIND......and this brings us bak to wilcock......why does this dude have any intrest in obama.....he should be telling the people to take back their power.......

[Northern Boy]

seems like everyone has there own opinion of this topic and so be it things would go alot better if we just left it at that instead of trying to change this opinion or that opinion ... If David was concerned he would show up and say so

[Operator]

Originally Posted by Carol

I would just like to know if the intent of this thread is to trash DW?

Hi,

I certainly hope we have the dignity here of not doing that ...
However, I have noticed that David is getting more and more followers sometimes just because "he's positive".
The question here of course is: but is he right ?

I liked his 2012 enigma presentation a lot. However in his later postings I think there are some inconsistencies and
not hard-proven facts that might make one a bit more cautious accepting the material presented.

I can understand that people are looking for positive messages and want to be guided by them. I can even advise to
concentrate on creative and constructive matters.
However do not lower your guards too much and first find out if a (positive) message is true.

As someone mentioned "David is still young" so I hope he will have the wisdom and experience to handle the hype.

Cheers

[sunshineseastar]

gosh jaby......you really live up to your name.......i hope you can sleep ok tonight.......

[jaby]

Originally Posted by sunshineseastar

gosh jaby......you really live up to your name.......i hope you can sleep ok tonight.......

And what 'name' is that?

I hope to sleep very well, thankyou.

Relax...it's only a bit of rough and tumble. I couldn't let you get away with being so negative about David. That just wouldn't be right/fair.....

[nagualton]

sunshineseastar

You're just wasting your energy here. Jump out of this swamp. It's for the believers only. Although this is excellent forum if you want to stalk your own selfimportance, and later recapitulate it.

[Rebel4Life]

Originally Posted by jaby

Oh, really..........

Are you saying that everyone who supported Obama is a fake?
Everyone who voted for him?


Martin Luther King Jr. 'I HAVE A DREAM' speech......

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4AItMg70kg (2:18)


Video about the assassination of Martin Luther King......

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ivrjiQlewk8 (2:16)


President Elect...Barack Obama...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fYHYrKDNV50 (2:12)

Really? Did you have to go there? MLKJR and Obama Are TWO WAY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Jesus when are people that don't turn off the television gonna realize why their called tv "programs". To program your mind to think a certain way just the same way you believe in Obama's Change* which there really isn't . BTW I am not being negative I am being a realist if you fail to see this then go blind yourself some more in your sea of ignorance.

[jaby]

Originally Posted by Rebel4Life

Really? Did you have to go there? MLKJR and Obama Are TWO WAY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Jesus when are people that don't turn off the television gonna realize why their called tv "programs". To program your mind to think a certain way just the same way you believe in Obama's Change* which there really isn't . BTW I am not being negative I am being a realist if you fail to see this then go blind yourself some more in your sea of ignorance.

We all know that political institutions are way from perfect.

We all know that to get where he is Obama knows how to 'play the game'.
Anyone who doesn't 'play the game' isn't going to get very far in politics let alone become the president (elect) of the USA.

Martin Luther King would certainly understand this. In my opinion.

When MLKJ was assassinated there were riots all over America and thousands upon thousands of arrests. This I think is where the problem with Obama lies. Not with him, himself. I feel America has got themselves just about the best president that they could have, in this moment in history and under the circumstances......but if ever anyone wanted to bring the US to it's knees. Assassinating Obama (pray this doesn't happen) would bring civil war and social collapse to the nation....even if it was a temporary state of affairs.

But we go off topic....bashing...I mean...discussing.. David Wilcock is the subject of this thread !

Oh, and when someone starts throwing words like 'your sea of ignorance' around (and sheep) then it says more about them than the 'target'...

[Rebel4Life]

Originally Posted by jaby

We all know that political institutions are way from perfect.

We all know that to get where he is Obama knows how to 'play the game'.
Anyone who doesn't 'play the game' isn't going to get very far in politics let alone become the president (elect) of the USA.

Martin Luther King would certainly understand this. In my opinion.

When MLKJ was assassinated there were riots all over America and thousands upon thousands of arrests. This I think is where the problem with Obama lies. Not with him, himself. I feel America has got themselves just about the best president that they could have, in this moment in history and under the circumstances......but if ever anyone wanted to bring the US to it's knees. Assassinating Obama (pray this doesn't happen) would bring civil war and social collapse to the nation....even if it was a temporary state of affairs.

you're still not thinking mate.

[jaby]

Originally Posted by Rebel4Life

BTW I am not being negative I am being a realist if you fail to see this then go blind yourself some more in your sea of ignorance.

Just noticed that your post has the original thread title...ie 'poor little David Wilcock'...the one that was changed by a MOD. Before you did your post.

What's all that about?


And as I am replying to this post. It is at the top of mine. But I certainly didn't put it there.

edit...just checked on the previous page (4) and the title of the thread is changed for posts 77,78,80,83
as well. Haven't gone any further back than page 4. When I have quoted certain posts. My post also has the original/removed title........like I said. What's all that about?

further edit...this chopping and changing of thread title goes through the whole thread. Would a MOD please look into this....as we seem to have two on-going titles to this thread. The one that was removed/changed and the new one....thanks.

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by jaby

And what a utterly dis-respectful title you have used for this thread.

I'm hitting the report button, by the way and let the Mods decide what they think about it....

With all due respect jaby, this gives me a very bad feeling there is no reason to report this thread. This gives me an East-German Stasi-feeling.

[jaby]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

With all due respect jaby, this gives me a very bad feeling there is no reason to report this thread. This gives me an East-German Stasi-feeling.

And this thread gives ME a 'watch out for the 'spooks' feeling'....

Am I right? Am I wrong?

Just calling the thread..'Poor lttle david wilcock' is out-of-order. IMO.

[TruthWillSetUFree]

I would like to point something out here.

There is nothing wrong with how everyone feels, they are emotions, tools to be used to "know thyself" .

This thread began with fear. Fear for the animals that are treated poorly, not because of David Wilcox eating meat. When we are in fear, we lash out on others.
Sunshineaster's intention was a noble one. Having compassion for the animals that come here to feed us and the horrible way they are treated is something we should be mindful of.
On the other hand, lashing out at DW is not helping the animals and it is again, separating 'us' as a group.

It is good to see this so we are conscious when it happens.

This is distraction to our real reason for being.

"Straight and Narrow is the path, Waste NO TIME"



Let's not waste our time with situations that do not serve our higher purpose, or use the situation to practice seeing it from your higher self instead of your ego, which usually keeps you stuck in emotions.

This is what we need to detach from, physical experiences that bring down your vibration of love, our true essence.


Every moment teaches us something about ourselves, if we are willing to see.

Love & Light to all the beautiful souls in Avalon

[Ali Quadir]

Originally Posted by jaby

Just calling the thread..'Poor lttle david wilcock' is out-of-order. IMO.

I agree, I also hit the report button around the same time you did... I would have kept my mouth shut about it. But I don't think you deserve all the love handed out to you now....

Reason is that this post was clearly intended as a personal attack on someone who is not present to defend himself, and who also happens to be an avalon VIP... I don't think it is desireable for people to avoid wanting to talk to Bill and Kerry out of fear for these mindless lynch mob responses...


I said it before and I said it again. If you spot inconsistencies in Wilcock (or anyones) material. Point them out in an open discussion. Wilcock follows the scientific model. He adds references to everything. This makes him extremely easy to disprove. He does his best to give you all the required information to prove him wrong. This IS the scientific method. You can check and recheck his material and his sources. Something no one out there (that I know of) does to this level in this area.

So you can use logic and scientific thought to point out where he is wrong. If you are right and he is wrong, then kudo's to you.

If you beging spewing logical fallacies and ad homini attacks then expect to get trashed.... There is NEVER an excuse to attack a person directly if you disagree with their ideas... Explain clearly why you disagree with ideas and do not comment about their personas...

Ad hominem attacks should be interpreted as symptoms of an underdeveloped or highly frustrated speaker who is incapable of formulating his objections properly and thus reverts to primitive poo slinging.


Love and light!
Kissie kissie!
Hug hug!

[sunshineseastar]

Originally Posted by Ali Quadir

I agree, I also hit the report button around the same time you did... I would have kept my mouth shut about it.

So you can use logic and scientific thought to point out where he is wrong. If you are right and he is wrong, then kudo's to you.

primitive poo


Love and light!
Kissie kissie!
Hug hug!

great another poliece officer.....well at least jaby was honest about her botton pushing looks like you prefur the silent root......oh and this is not about right or wrong.....right and wrong are the primitive poo......it´s about compassion or no compassion.....service to self or service to others.....thanks for calling