Norway...possible portal? UFO? - Page 5

Dantheman62 · 12-10-2009, 06:53 PM

My money is still on a rocket/missile!

BROOK · 12-10-2009, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

My money is still on a rocket/missile!

You better go find a money tree like mine...

Bwahahaha

dagon · 12-10-2009, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

My money is still on a rocket/missile!

dan did you move to calif. you were in Georgia .???

Dantheman62 · 12-10-2009, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dagon

dan did you move to calif. you were in Georgia .???

Hey Dagon, yep! I'm a California boy now. Riverside to be exact.

micjer · 12-10-2009, 07:26 PM

Update December 10, 2009: After the Russian government's denial on December 9, 2009, that it had not conducted any missile tests that could explain the white and blue light spirals over northern Norway, today on December 10, 2009, the U.K.'s BBC is reporting “a statement from Moscow later confirmed that a missile launch from a Russian submarine in the region had failed.” Adding to the mystery is Norway's concern that its government had no prior communication from Russia that any such missile tests were scheduled near northern Norway.

Another speculation has been microwave tests of the ionosphere from Tromso, Norway, impacting the atmosphere in an unexpected way. But, ionospheric physicists in Gakona, Alaska; Arecibo, Puerto Rico; Tromso, Norway; and other facilities have been bouncing microwaves off the ionosphere for at least a decade of research. Any oscillation that humans produce in the ionosphere is immediately obliterated as soon as sun rays shine on any part of the ionosphere. However, spiraling lights phenomenon as seen and photographed over northern Norway yesterday has not been reported at ionospheric research sites.

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?I...ry=Environment

Phtha · 12-10-2009, 07:18 PM

It is proven a missile, it is over, people are only playing with the hope that it was more.

The fact that someone can simulate it in 3d using a simple particle cloud, and made it look almost exact despite the short amount of time it took him to make the video.... If he were to spend more time he could have made it look exactly like it was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8i5EfmYU4

And here is ship captain language for a warning of rocket tests in the area before hand! The area is a WELL KNOWN missile testing spot.

ZCZC FA80
071400 UTC DEC 09
COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 95
SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA
1. ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 10 DEC TO 0800 11 DEC
0900 TO 1700 11 DEC 2100 11 DEC TO 0600 12 DEC
1000 TO 1700 12 DEC 2200 12 DEC TO 1000 13 DEC
1100 TO 1700 13 DEC 0100 TO 1400 14 DEC
0100 TO 0700 AND 1600 TO 2200 15 DEC
NAVIGATION PROHIBITED IN AREA 65-12.6N 036-37.0E
65-37.2N 036-26.0E 66-12.3N 037-19.0E 66-04.0N 037-47.0E
66-03.0N 038-38.0E 66-06.5N 038-55.0E
65-11.0N 037-28.0E 65-12.1N 036-49.5E
THEN COASTAL LINE 65-12.2N 036-47.6E
2. CANCEL THIS MESSAGE 152300 DEC=
NNNN

ZCZC FA79
031230 UTC DEC 09
COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 94
SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA
1.ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 07 DEC TO 0600 08 DEC
09 DEC 0200 TO 0900 10 DEC 0100 TO 0900
NAVIGATION PROHIBITED IN AREA
65-12.6N 036-37.0E 65-37.2N 036-26.0E
66-12.3N 037-19.0E 66-04.0N 037-47.0E
66-03.0N 038-38.0E 66-06.5N 038-55.0E
65-11.0N 037-28.0E 65-12.1N 036-49.5E
THEN COASTAL LINE 65-12.2N 036-47.6E
http://forum.flot.su/showthread.php?p=102072

This is also (I would assume) how the photographer had his camera all ready to go on its tripod, with the iso (shutter speed) already set. He knew a launch was coming so he was prepared, he was there purposely to take a picture of the launch, I'm sure he never expected to get such a show though.

It's a missile... end of story.

Dantheman62 · 12-10-2009, 07:19 PM

Kra · 12-10-2009, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phtha

It is proven a missile, it is over, people are only playing with the hope that it was more.

The fact that someone can simulate it in 3d using a simple particle cloud, and made it look almost exact despite the short amount of time it took him to make the video.... If he were to spend more time he could have made it look exactly like it was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8i5EfmYU4

And here is ship captain language for a warning of rocket tests in the area before hand! The area is a WELL KNOWN missile testing spot.

ZCZC FA80
071400 UTC DEC 09
COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 95
SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA
1. ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 10 DEC TO 0800 11 DEC
0900 TO 1700 11 DEC 2100 11 DEC TO 0600 12 DEC
1000 TO 1700 12 DEC 2200 12 DEC TO 1000 13 DEC
1100 TO 1700 13 DEC 0100 TO 1400 14 DEC
0100 TO 0700 AND 1600 TO 2200 15 DEC
NAVIGATION PROHIBITED IN AREA 65-12.6N 036-37.0E
65-37.2N 036-26.0E 66-12.3N 037-19.0E 66-04.0N 037-47.0E
66-03.0N 038-38.0E 66-06.5N 038-55.0E
65-11.0N 037-28.0E 65-12.1N 036-49.5E
THEN COASTAL LINE 65-12.2N 036-47.6E
2. CANCEL THIS MESSAGE 152300 DEC=
NNNN

ZCZC FA79
031230 UTC DEC 09
COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 94
SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA
1.ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 07 DEC TO 0600 08 DEC
09 DEC 0200 TO 0900 10 DEC 0100 TO 0900
NAVIGATION PROHIBITED IN AREA
65-12.6N 036-37.0E 65-37.2N 036-26.0E
66-12.3N 037-19.0E 66-04.0N 037-47.0E
66-03.0N 038-38.0E 66-06.5N 038-55.0E
65-11.0N 037-28.0E 65-12.1N 036-49.5E
THEN COASTAL LINE 65-12.2N 036-47.6E
http://forum.flot.su/showthread.php?p=102072

This is also (I would assume) how the photographer had his camera all ready to go on its tripod, with the iso (shutter speed) already set. He knew a launch was coming so he was prepared, he was there purposely to take a picture of the launch, I'm sure he never expected to get such a show though.

It's a missile... end of story.

Phtha why are you insisting so much with this? Why are you trying to impose others your truth? Can't you accept that others do not agree with this explanation and they feel that there is more to this (even if this were to be a rocket)? Why do you think that your truth is everybody's truth? We are here to share thoughts... to share research results... among other things.

chelmostef · 12-10-2009, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phtha

It is proven a missile, it is over, people are only playing with the hope that it was more.

The fact that someone can simulate it in 3d using a simple particle cloud, and made it look almost exact despite the short amount of time it took him to make the video.... If he were to spend more time he could have made it look exactly like it was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8i5EfmYU4

:

Ok it looks like it could happen on the simulator.

It also looks as though its being illuminated from below also.

Surly one can work out the wind speed from the time it takes for the cloud to dissipate? If this matches up with the wind speed on the day then I would be more inclined to go with a missle. If the wind speed doesnt match up then its somthing eles.

Stef

dagon · 12-10-2009, 06:44 PM

what I do find interesting is Copenhagen treaty taking place. and if you watch Al Gore's movie with the spiral carbon clouds on the cover. i lean to a human cause. and almost feel slapped in the face with this. harrp. blue beam. 3 birds 1 stone.

one can only hope it it the blue star. ect. or other theory. but at this point. Im growing skeptical of any disclosure. and think that our military and leaders would try to block any attempt of making contact public knowledge. most likely a distraction. or test.

but having said that. I can hope. cant I. I wish it to be the theory's discussed here. more than anything. I wish it to be!

I have witnessed other test rockets being fired. and there was no test rocket for sure. just a floating light covered in smoke or steam. and hovered over a lake. and on the news, said it was a test rocket. LOL.. not.

WarriorServant · 12-10-2009, 08:15 PM

It is a rocket.

D9Magestic · 12-11-2009, 11:09 AM

Interesting thing about the twisting spiral of light. Anybody seen the video about the last shuttle disaster were somebody had Filmed a blue twisting beam of light hitting the shuttle. The film was confiscated and never seen again. I think it was "from here to Andromeda" or the person who made that film.

viking · 12-11-2009, 11:23 AM

Disclosure??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPor-SbZNS8

viking

Luminari · 12-11-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by viking

Disclosure??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPor-SbZNS8

viking

Excellent.

micjer · 12-11-2009, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminari

Excellent.

Agreed

LucidJia · 12-11-2009, 11:28 AM

I showed my Girlfriend the video and a few pics last night but she didn't really pay much attention to it and told me she thought it looked fake.

She is not as awake and aware as me, but she has a naturally strong intuition that I lack. Anyway this afternoon she told me she had an intensely vivid dream last night about the spiral I showed here and my ears immediately perked up.

She said she saw the same spiral I showed her and that a very big black ufo came out of it and was moving very slowly. She then said allot of people meet in a 3 story building where a leader from the ship was telling people that this is the start of a big and great change for earth. She said she felt scared of the enormity of it but also excited at the new energy they were bringing.

Now, as I said she is not aware of the goings on that camelot and other similar endeavours are bringing to light so this very original to her. It really stunned me when she started talking about this to me.

Thought I would share this here.

Myra · 12-09-2009, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kra

Hello everyone.
They are saying it was a russian missile. I don't agree.
http://www.barentsobserver.com/faile...y.4663494.html

I don't buy it either

David · 12-09-2009, 11:10 PM

It's about damn time. Finally some actual proof. Proof of what? I have no idea but you sure can't look this one up in the encyclopedia. Of all the wonders in our digital age it's nice to ponder at a perplexing event and ask your self. WTF?

pineal-pilot-in merkabah · 12-09-2009, 11:13 PM

linked to chem trails perhaps.. theyneed trails to project the holograms onto...

Gareth · 12-09-2009, 11:18 PM

It is hard to explain - but for what it is worth it doesn't "feel" like anything man-made.

My instincts say this is the start of something incredible - time will prove me wrong or right.

G

BROOK · 12-09-2009, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth

It is hard to explain - but for what it is worth it doesn't "feel" like anything man-made.

My instincts say this is the start of something incredible - time will prove me wrong or right.

G

I'm with you there...I don't feel it's man-made either. I get a strong sense it's a portal

lucrum · 12-09-2009, 11:38 PM

Norwegian Army confirms having statements from the northeren russian fleet that they were supposed to launch a test-missile around that moment in time.

If this is just a silly explanation or not I have no idea, but I don't really think it looks like a missile doing that. The circle's are kinda too perfect...I'm thinking a fractal pattern.

First thing that crossed my mind was a spiral galaxy

Humble Janitor · 12-10-2009, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth

It is hard to explain - but for what it is worth it doesn't "feel" like anything man-made.

My instincts say this is the start of something incredible - time will prove me wrong or right.

G

I don't think it's possible for man to create such an effect.

It certainly looked like a portal to me.

Mystique · 12-10-2009, 02:42 AM

I found this info on the following link:

http://www.barentsobserver.com/index...age=0&showall=

There are now sources (TV2) in Norway reporting the Russians have confirmed a failed Bulava ICBM test (possibly the last ever Bulava).

In addition there were mariner warnings to stay out of that area of the White Sea for a rocket launch.
The giant spiral shaped light that could be seen in the eastern sky for several minutes on Wednesday morning was probably caused by a failed missile launch from the White Sea, several Norwegian space and defense experts believe.

Interviewed by the Norwegian TV2, an anonymous Russian military source says it was failed launch of a Bulava missile from a submarine in the White Sea Wednesday morning.

Researcher at the Tromsø Geophysical Observatory Truls Lynne Hansen is certain that the light was caused by a missile launch:

- The missile has probably come out of control and exploded. The peculiar spiral shaped light pattern comes from reflection of the sun in the leaking fuel, he said to Aftenposten.

Spokesman in the Norwegian Defense Jon Espen Lien says that the Norwegian Defense does not know for sure what the light was, but that it probably was a Russian missile:

- It is quite normal that Russia uses the White Sea and the Barents Sea as testing grounds for weapons.

The failed missile launch that was visible over large areas in Northern Norway are now making headlines world-wide. The Russian TV-internet site Russia Today had a news storry late Wednesday evening under the headline "UFO-show in Norway sky welcomes Obama for Nobel Prize ceremony."

According to NRK, Arkhangelsk Radio sent out an advance warning about several missile launches from the White Sea in the period December 7-10.The warning included launches on the night to Wednesday. An anonymous source in the Northern Fleet told Norwegian news paper VG that they had no information about the incident. Press Attaché at Russia’s Embassy in Oslo Vladimir Isupov did neither have any that could explain the light phenomenon over Northern Norway.

Oneness · 12-10-2009, 03:08 AM

What seems odd here is the rate of expansion of the diameter of the spiral. I can't imagine (if it were a rocket) hot fuel staying luminous through the entire cycle of expansion..to light up the whole sky like it did. Seems strange.

12-10-2009, 06:53 PM	#1
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Norway...possible portal? UFO? My money is still on a rocket/missile!

12-10-2009, 07:26 PM	#5
micjer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ont. CANADA Posts: 1,043	Re: Norway...possible portal? UFO? Update December 10, 2009: After the Russian government's denial on December 9, 2009, that it had not conducted any missile tests that could explain the white and blue light spirals over northern Norway, today on December 10, 2009, the U.K.'s BBC is reporting “a statement from Moscow later confirmed that a missile launch from a Russian submarine in the region had failed.” Adding to the mystery is Norway's concern that its government had no prior communication from Russia that any such missile tests were scheduled near northern Norway. Another speculation has been microwave tests of the ionosphere from Tromso, Norway, impacting the atmosphere in an unexpected way. But, ionospheric physicists in Gakona, Alaska; Arecibo, Puerto Rico; Tromso, Norway; and other facilities have been bouncing microwaves off the ionosphere for at least a decade of research. Any oscillation that humans produce in the ionosphere is immediately obliterated as soon as sun rays shine on any part of the ionosphere. However, spiraling lights phenomenon as seen and photographed over northern Norway yesterday has not been reported at ionospheric research sites. http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?I...ry=Environment

12-10-2009, 07:18 PM	#6
Phtha Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 947	Re: Norway...possible portal? UFO? It is proven a missile, it is over, people are only playing with the hope that it was more. The fact that someone can simulate it in 3d using a simple particle cloud, and made it look almost exact despite the short amount of time it took him to make the video.... If he were to spend more time he could have made it look exactly like it was. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8i5EfmYU4 And here is ship captain language for a warning of rocket tests in the area before hand! The area is a WELL KNOWN missile testing spot. ZCZC FA80 071400 UTC DEC 09 COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 95 SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA 1. ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 10 DEC TO 0800 11 DEC 0900 TO 1700 11 DEC 2100 11 DEC TO 0600 12 DEC 1000 TO 1700 12 DEC 2200 12 DEC TO 1000 13 DEC 1100 TO 1700 13 DEC 0100 TO 1400 14 DEC 0100 TO 0700 AND 1600 TO 2200 15 DEC NAVIGATION PROHIBITED IN AREA 65-12.6N 036-37.0E 65-37.2N 036-26.0E 66-12.3N 037-19.0E 66-04.0N 037-47.0E 66-03.0N 038-38.0E 66-06.5N 038-55.0E 65-11.0N 037-28.0E 65-12.1N 036-49.5E THEN COASTAL LINE 65-12.2N 036-47.6E 2. CANCEL THIS MESSAGE 152300 DEC= NNNN ZCZC FA79 031230 UTC DEC 09 COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 94 SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA 1.ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 07 DEC TO 0600 08 DEC 09 DEC 0200 TO 0900 10 DEC 0100 TO 0900 NAVIGATION PROHIBITED IN AREA 65-12.6N 036-37.0E 65-37.2N 036-26.0E 66-12.3N 037-19.0E 66-04.0N 037-47.0E 66-03.0N 038-38.0E 66-06.5N 038-55.0E 65-11.0N 037-28.0E 65-12.1N 036-49.5E THEN COASTAL LINE 65-12.2N 036-47.6E http://forum.flot.su/showthread.php?p=102072 This is also (I would assume) how the photographer had his camera all ready to go on its tripod, with the iso (shutter speed) already set. He knew a launch was coming so he was prepared, he was there purposely to take a picture of the launch, I'm sure he never expected to get such a show though. It's a missile... end of story.

12-10-2009, 07:19 PM	#7
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Norway...possible portal? UFO?

12-10-2009, 06:44 PM	#10
dagon Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glen Ellen Ca Posts: 611	Re: Norway...possible portal? UFO? what I do find interesting is Copenhagen treaty taking place. and if you watch Al Gore's movie with the spiral carbon clouds on the cover. i lean to a human cause. and almost feel slapped in the face with this. harrp. blue beam. 3 birds 1 stone. one can only hope it it the blue star. ect. or other theory. but at this point. Im growing skeptical of any disclosure. and think that our military and leaders would try to block any attempt of making contact public knowledge. most likely a distraction. or test. but having said that. I can hope. cant I. I wish it to be the theory's discussed here. more than anything. I wish it to be! I have witnessed other test rockets being fired. and there was no test rocket for sure. just a floating light covered in smoke or steam. and hovered over a lake. and on the news, said it was a test rocket. LOL.. not. Last edited by dagon; 12-10-2009 at 06:47 PM.

12-10-2009, 08:15 PM	#11
WarriorServant Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 209	Re: Norway...possible portal? UFO? It is a rocket.

12-11-2009, 11:09 AM	#12
D9Magestic Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 8	Re: Norway...possible portal? UFO? Interesting thing about the twisting spiral of light. Anybody seen the video about the last shuttle disaster were somebody had Filmed a blue twisting beam of light hitting the shuttle. The film was confiscated and never seen again. I think it was "from here to Andromeda" or the person who made that film.

12-11-2009, 11:23 AM	#13
viking Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,709	Re: Norway...possible portal? UFO? Disclosure?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPor-SbZNS8 viking

12-11-2009, 11:28 AM	#16
LucidJia Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 135	Re: Norway...possible portal? UFO? I showed my Girlfriend the video and a few pics last night but she didn't really pay much attention to it and told me she thought it looked fake. She is not as awake and aware as me, but she has a naturally strong intuition that I lack. Anyway this afternoon she told me she had an intensely vivid dream last night about the spiral I showed here and my ears immediately perked up. She said she saw the same spiral I showed her and that a very big black ufo came out of it and was moving very slowly. She then said allot of people meet in a 3 story building where a leader from the ship was telling people that this is the start of a big and great change for earth. She said she felt scared of the enormity of it but also excited at the new energy they were bringing. Now, as I said she is not aware of the goings on that camelot and other similar endeavours are bringing to light so this very original to her. It really stunned me when she started talking about this to me. Thought I would share this here.

12-09-2009, 11:10 PM	#18
David Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 398	Re: Norway...possible portal? UFO? It's about damn time. Finally some actual proof. Proof of what? I have no idea but you sure can't look this one up in the encyclopedia. Of all the wonders in our digital age it's nice to ponder at a perplexing event and ask your self. WTF?

12-09-2009, 11:13 PM	#19
pineal-pilot-in merkabah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: england Posts: 1,153	Re: Norway...possible portal? UFO? linked to chem trails perhaps.. theyneed trails to project the holograms onto...

12-09-2009, 11:18 PM	#20
Gareth Project Avalon Administrator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 173	Re: Norway...possible portal? UFO? It is hard to explain - but for what it is worth it doesn't "feel" like anything man-made. My instincts say this is the start of something incredible - time will prove me wrong or right. G

12-09-2009, 11:38 PM	#22
lucrum Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 209	Re: Norway...possible portal? UFO? Norwegian Army confirms having statements from the northeren russian fleet that they were supposed to launch a test-missile around that moment in time. If this is just a silly explanation or not I have no idea, but I don't really think it looks like a missile doing that. The circle's are kinda too perfect...I'm thinking a fractal pattern. First thing that crossed my mind was a spiral galaxy

12-10-2009, 02:42 AM	#24
Mystique Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 82	Re: Norway...possible portal? UFO? I found this info on the following link: http://www.barentsobserver.com/index...age=0&showall= There are now sources (TV2) in Norway reporting the Russians have confirmed a failed Bulava ICBM test (possibly the last ever Bulava). In addition there were mariner warnings to stay out of that area of the White Sea for a rocket launch. The giant spiral shaped light that could be seen in the eastern sky for several minutes on Wednesday morning was probably caused by a failed missile launch from the White Sea, several Norwegian space and defense experts believe. Interviewed by the Norwegian TV2, an anonymous Russian military source says it was failed launch of a Bulava missile from a submarine in the White Sea Wednesday morning. Researcher at the Tromsø Geophysical Observatory Truls Lynne Hansen is certain that the light was caused by a missile launch: - The missile has probably come out of control and exploded. The peculiar spiral shaped light pattern comes from reflection of the sun in the leaking fuel, he said to Aftenposten. Spokesman in the Norwegian Defense Jon Espen Lien says that the Norwegian Defense does not know for sure what the light was, but that it probably was a Russian missile: - It is quite normal that Russia uses the White Sea and the Barents Sea as testing grounds for weapons. The failed missile launch that was visible over large areas in Northern Norway are now making headlines world-wide. The Russian TV-internet site Russia Today had a news storry late Wednesday evening under the headline "UFO-show in Norway sky welcomes Obama for Nobel Prize ceremony." According to NRK, Arkhangelsk Radio sent out an advance warning about several missile launches from the White Sea in the period December 7-10.The warning included launches on the night to Wednesday. An anonymous source in the Northern Fleet told Norwegian news paper VG that they had no information about the incident. Press Attaché at Russia’s Embassy in Oslo Vladimir Isupov did neither have any that could explain the light phenomenon over Northern Norway.

12-10-2009, 03:08 AM	#25
Oneness Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Eastern Pennsylvania,Scranton Posts: 95	Re: Norway...possible portal? UFO? What seems odd here is the rate of expansion of the diameter of the spiral. I can't imagine (if it were a rocket) hot fuel staying luminous through the entire cycle of expansion..to light up the whole sky like it did. Seems strange.