What is 2012? (or "The Great Harvest")

[islandman]

Hi Sanat,

Thanks for this post, it is a welcome relief from the mad swirl of information/disinformation out there.

If its not to personal, How would you classify yourself? Wanderer, positive 3rd density ect and how did you find out. While Im sure the answer will come with much work on the self, I am wondering if there are any tell tale signs.

Keep up the good work.

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by islandman

Hi Sanat,

Thanks for this post, it is a welcome relief from the mad swirl of information/disinformation out there.

If its not to personal, How would you classify yourself? Wanderer, positive 3rd density ect and how did you find out. While Im sure the answer will come with much work on the self, I am wondering if there are any tell tale signs.

Keep up the good work.

Hi Islandman! Thanks! You too!

I am a Wanderer that came in from 5th density (i.e. my incarnation level was around 390 on the scale). I took in a lot of "darkness" and thus spent most of my life in the lower end of the scale (several years as low as 50 with heavy drinking, hopelessness and depression etc.). Yoga and a friend (another Wanderer) became my "wakeupcall". When I got the taste of "the real" I became very dedicated towards the seeking of Heart/Self. I became almost obsessed with cleansing myself (first more physical, and later more spiritual). It was some pretty rough years of transmuting all the darkness I had taken in and throwing off the conditioning (I was very ill physically for a year or so with rashes all over my body etc.) Eventually I got all cleaned up. Most of my "friends" was stripped away in that process.

The seeking/healing process eventually lead me to a group of dedicated seekers (r)evolving around a highly evolved Being/Master/Wanderer (top of the scale). Being in that Presence increased my healing process very much, and I was able to transmute all the darkness I had taken in into Light, and thus abide in the peace of the Present moment at all times.

The answers come from inner knowing. Darkness/ignorance transmuted into Light of Awareness. Not knowing is a great catalyst for search. And searching is the only way to get anywhere. Searching implies being able to admit "I do not know" at this time. That humbleness opens the heart and allows for true searching. Most people project their doubts and all darkness onto others and the world instead of searching. You have "found" when you no longer care what you are (wanderer or no wanderer. Positive harvest or no positive harvest). You are happy as things are right now. All else is just a game to make people realize it's all a game

[micjer]

Sanat,

Your old friends may have been stripped away, but you have certainly found new ones here.

My wife and I were talking the other night how our immediate friends have changed lately. It seems that the more negative people in our lives have been left behind. Seems we don't have much in common anymore. Our current group of friends are very "alive" and loving people. The type that would help out in a time of crisis. Some of them are not as "awake" as we might like but on the other hand are certainly service to others type.

It is amazing how you recognize the negative energies so much quicker now adays. The type that you prefer not to talk to long because they are bringing your emotions down to their level.

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by micjer

Sanat,

Your old friends may have been stripped away, but you have certainly found new ones here.

My wife and I were talking the other night how our immediate friends have changed lately. It seems that the more negative people in our lives have been left behind. Seems we don't have much in common anymore. Our current group of friends are very "alive" and loving people. The type that would help out in a time of crisis. Some of them are not as "awake" as we might like but on the other hand are certainly service to others type.

It is amazing how you recognize the negative energies so much quicker now adays. The type that you prefer not to talk to long because they are bringing your emotions down to their level.

Yes, that's how it is As we become more Aware suddenly we notice a lot of things. Like getting new eyes to see with. It does not matter what people "know about" so much, as long as they have a good Heart. Open mind and Heart goes a very long way. It's great to have good friends, but I have learned my lesson as to be very careful who I "let in". I prefer few but trusted friends for the time being. At least I have time to be on the inet a lot...hehe

[macrostheblack]

It is through places or meeting points like this that the human spirit can meet.

The worst idea for that year should be forgotten.

Focus on the future featuring people thinking from their hearts instead of the mindset that points to trouble.

The mind is a powerful tool. To think good tomorrow encourages the same. To doubt leads to problems.

The year so focused on will not happen in the the ways feared whilst we all join and see it being just another year. This is how i have seen the dreaded year. If you worry about a time in the future then you make that future!

You ask - What is 2012?

It is a test of the human spirit to overcome its blindness to spirituality. Tech will not solve our problems.

Macros the Black

[Sanat]

Yea, that certainly is a nice way to see it! Nothing "is" anything else than how each choose to see it. What works is what matters I guess. Thanks!

[towhatend]

Have just got up-to-date with all the latest posts on this one. Phew!! (wiping sweat off brow!!) It is interesting to note no one has mentioned the Cassiopaeans. Laura Knight-Jacdyzyk has penned a number of books and featured among them are excerpts from various channelled sessions with the Cassiopaeans(6th density, us in the future). I believe a lady Barbara Marciniak has had contact as well. I am not familiar with her work.

the rope is spun from many threads.

regards, towhatend

[Sanat]

I am not familiar with that work. But there is plenty out there all over the world, that is for sure. The way I see it no one will "survive" the Ascension/Harvest process as it implies a "zero point" period where Creation "refreshes" itself. The ET's, Wanderers and all that participate in this process are simply making sure that this Harvest is allowed to proceed/occur as planned, and that the planet is not destroyed (in "natural ways" or more "unnatural" ways like nuclear war) before the Harvest has occured. Hidden Hand and other sources comments on this "Zero point":

“You said that the "lukewarm people" at the time of harvest would not notice anything has happened, but they'd be on a different planet. Do you mean that they'd wake up with no memory of what has occurred but still be in the same physical body, or they'd wake up in a new physical body with no memory of any past life?”

There will be a short experience of 'zero-point time', where you feel utterly "at One" with your Infinite Creator. It will be a feeling of blissful, ecstatic expansiveness and Unity, whilst your physical vehicles (bodies) are dissolved back into Light, and transported to your new environment. When that transition is complete, the 'zero-point time' will end, and you will 'appear' in your new 'game-zone' (planet). You will look the same, think the same, feel the same, in fact, it will be just like you all had some mystical experience, and life will carry on as 'normal' for you. Same houses, family situations, jobs, friends, lovers. Everything will seem the same as before, you will not remember the Great Harvest or earth changes that occurred as the planet Earth heals and regenerates herself. But you will recall your 'mystical experience' and that will give you hope and a new opportunity to choose a more positive future for yourselves.

More about this can be found here:

http://www.wakeupcall2012.com/messages.html

[micjer]

Sanat,

I was reading that the author of the Ra material, Don Elkins developed mental illness in 1983 and shot himself when he was surrounded by police. Do you know any more details. Was it possible that the PTB wanted him out?

David Wilcock feels he couldn't handle the negativism of the critics of his work.

I have begun reading the material. It is amazing how some of the answers that were given at the time which seemed pretty far fetched have since been more accepted as being right. e.g. that the military have developed UFO's of their own.

[Allie]

So many interesting points of view - cheers!

I remember when I first came across the notion of a set percentage of 'survivors' and as time went on, I realised that this appears to be a commonality found in almost every theory/belief. Whether that is coming from the fear of, say, Codex Alimentarius or some channelings (but not all) from the Ascended Masters. It's almost everywhere, underlying almost every theme. Curious. The end result seemed the same but the underlying purpose and motivators are different.

Initially, I wondered about questions such as 'survival' and 'who am I'? and I wanted to know all the answers. I came across sites offering up all manner of lotions, potions, advice and cures in order to allow people to 'ascend' or 'survive' - depending on your worldview.

I don't say this is right for everyone, but as mentioned before, I've had to unpack a messy rucksack and to restore it I had to clean up my gear. At the moment I'm aware that some of that gear isn't as lustrous as it might be so it's a work in progress. Having read the back of all the 'lotions and potions' I felt that the important thing for me is to make sure that my cleaning-up program is authentic - that is, that whatever I do in respect of STO is genuine and not springing from an idea of 'graduating'. If I don't make the grade then I quite accept that I haven't cleaned up my gear this time round. As it's all a learning process, that has to be the right outcome for me as opposed to a 'failure'.

This feeling might well arise from my life's experience, though. Since I was six I sought 'God'. Not coming from a remotely religious family this resulted in a pair of bemused and bewildered - although very tolerant - parents who couldn't quite figure out what they'd created here I spent years investigating so many religions and the one thing that used to puzzle me was a sort of mis-match between authenticity and the belief in how it is arrived at. For example, a Catholic may sin merrily away through the week but a trip to the confessional puts it all right and the sinner is free to rinse and repeat.
Didn't seem terribly authentic to me. Although I understand the pyschological underpinnings of this particular act of faith.

There seemed no point in attending a religious service because the Boss is watching - you must surely want to be there for reasons other than gaining a Brownie point? There seemed no point in giving to charity unless your heart has compassion in it for its cause rather than wondering if again, the Boss has His pencil poised to pop a tick next to your name.

All these things seemed to be something you must genuinely want to do out of compassion rather than to make the grade.

For me it was in the questioning of my own authenticity that I found the only genuine way forward. If I didn't want to be kind or charitable on a given occasion, why was that? Were were my uncharitable thoughts stemming from? If I couldn't see a charitable side in me at that moment in time, I didn't submerge it in denial but accepted it with all the discomforts it brought, adding it to the potentials in the rucksack. And if I was being charitable or kind, was this truly from the heart or out of a sense of 'must do'? I felt that I made progress when I questioned my motivation.

I know it sounds as if I spent - or spend - an awful lot of time navel-gazing or lost in self-absorption, but that wasn't really the case. I only needed to clean a bit of the muck off to see the underlying article

[Magamud]

2012 great harvest is a counter intelligence plan to keep people distracted and create hope/savior motivation. Its also part of the foundations of the New World religion for the future.

[micjer]

Originally Posted by Magamud

2012 great harvest is a counter intelligence plan to keep people distracted and create hope/savior motivation. Its also part of the foundations of the New World religion for the future.

For clarification do you feel that David Wilcock, Dannion Brinkley, David Icke and the likes are working for the NWO to distract us. They all speak of Oneness and going inward for answers. Do you feel they are all spouting off to mislead us.

I do not feel the Mayan, Hopi's and others that speak of the harvest work for the new world religious group.

sorry if I have missed something.

[recallone]

Originally Posted by Magamud

2012 great harvest is a counter intelligence plan to keep people distracted and create hope/savior motivation. Its also part of the foundations of the New World religion for the future.

I agree.
As I mentioned previously in this thread, too much of the foundation that's sited as fact is quite simply - flawed.

[feeler]

Originally Posted by Allie

Allie

Allie

I enjoy reading your post. You must have gone through quite a bit of self-examining - on being a sinner versus being enslaved, on your own sense of self-worth, on whether to treat others in the way you would like to be treated.

Great post.

-feeler

[Magamud]

For clarification do you feel that David Wilcock, Dannion Brinkley, David Icke and the likes are working for the NWO to distract us. They all speak of Oneness and going inward for answers. Do you feel they are all spouting off to mislead us.

I do not feel the Mayan, Hopi's and others that speak of the harvest work for the new world religious group.

sorry if I have missed something.

This is a big subject and not easily communicated so work with me here. I think those speaking about Oneness, inward for answers, the outside is an illusion, aliens are the bad guys etc... Are falling in line with the counter intelligence placed by the Elite/NWO/Eugenicists/Whatever you want to call them/ corporate agenda. Now, this agenda has been seeded for possibly a couple of thousand years. Allegory if you please, Frank Herbert's Dune, the Bene Gesserit would seed/put in prophecies thousands of years before hand to be able to keep control of worlds/societies. I believe we are watching the same thing as in the formation of christiantity 2000 years ago. They are now destroying the old religions and are creating a new religion to control the masses and that concept is the "New Age".
This New Age is a distraction. Sure the PTB are going to put some drama into it and some justification but its a CON! Its a con to stop you from realizing that we are completely inslaved and humanity is becoming extinct. Also in doing the hardest thing which is taking the limited action we have to warn people about GMO's, fluoride, vaccines, tanshumanism, fake democracy, propaganda, programming of our future etc...

Where the tire meets the road:
1. We are being culled at this very moment by the water we drink, the food we eat, vaccines, chemtrails, chemicals, medicine etc...
2. We are being lied too by media, education, politics, medicine, science etc...
3. We must define who the enemy is. And this can be done by reading about their agendas. The eugenicists, League of Nations, United Nations, Royal Society, Counil of Foreign Relations, CIA, MK Ultra, Club of Rome, Aldous Huxley, Carrol Quigley, Listen to Alan Watt for a month and he will give you enough information to study for years.

Godspeed

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by micjer

Sanat,

I was reading that the author of the Ra material, Don Elkins developed mental illness in 1983 and shot himself when he was surrounded by police. Do you know any more details. Was it possible that the PTB wanted him out?

David Wilcock feels he couldn't handle the negativism of the critics of his work.

I have begun reading the material. It is amazing how some of the answers that were given at the time which seemed pretty far fetched have since been more accepted as being right. e.g. that the military have developed UFO's of their own.

I don't know anything about that no. I know that they were 3 persons getting this material working together for a 20 years or so. The medium was a woman. At one point Ra speaks about her being "attacked" by a 5th density negative astral being. Most often they send their 4th density negative minions to "attack" Lightworkers, but apparently this was deemed so "important" that it attracted the attention of a 5th density entity.

If a person is driven to insanity and suicide the dark forces are always involved one way or the other (on the astral/mind plane and/or on the 3d physical plane). How else could such things happen? Remember that no matter what you set out to do the universe supports it. If you decide to do something of low integrity (i.e. negative or StS) you will attract (astral)beings to you that will support and help you with that. They will "urge you on" and "tempt/seduce" in any way they can to make a person create negativity which they feed of off. A mental unstable person is "easy pray" for these beings. The higher you go on the Scale the more you will be surrounded by Light beings and guides.

Any intention of low integrity/StS is an open invitations for sts astral beings to enter the Sacred space of your mind. The best StO is to simply rid yourself of as much of these sts parasites as possible by bringing them to the Light of Awareness where they will evaporate like morning dew in the sun. Everyone born on this planet has some amount of these sts beings inside themselves. Most have them in spades and are not at all conscious of it, but rather mistake the honeycombed nest they have built as their own "identity/persona".

[Sanat]

There is only one "enemy" and only one "anti-christ" and that is the ego/mind inside that has not been tamed. As long as your ego/mind/astralparasite complex makes you percieve "outside" enemies, you are lost in the illusion of life. If you aim to "survive" life you have clearly missed the point.

I came to this conclusion at some point in my life when someone simply told me:

Sit down and close your eyes and tell your ego/mind complex to shut the f. up. See if you can have peace and Silence for 1 full minute. If not? Then there is your problem. You are not walking your dog, the dog is walking you. What is this entity inside you that does not care what orders you give it? Is that freedom? Taking orders from some silly ego/mind complex? Being bossed around by some entity inside that you are only semi-aware of. Talk about the invasion of the "body snatchers".

The ego/mind parasitic entity thrives on conflict, and thus it always seek to divide the world into friends vs. enemies, good (me/mine) vs bad(others) etc. Duality in other words. With clarity and Awareness the world becomes One again. There are no "opposites", only a continuum. Only Light or less light, or the almost lack of light (referred to as "darkness"). Everything that exist has Light/Truth in it (or it could not exist), but how much that truth is distorted/perverted is what vary along the Scale. It depends on the perciever, and not so much the "percieved". A person of high integrity has found Truth in him/her self, and thus can percieve truth in anyone else and in all things, all scriptures and all philosphy. Such a person can see how it all (r)evolve around the same ineffable truth. The truth of Identity.

[recallone]

Originally Posted by Allie

Hi Magamud and Recallone

Just a little point on the matter of 'inward' and 'outward' thinking and 'flaws' as mentioned in your posts

As I trawled my way through the mountains of information, views, beliefs and so on I obviously encountered all manner of material supporting all manner of beliefs. Being cerebral and analytical - since I think these are necessary tools - I looked for, and encountered, flaws, contradictions and so on even amongst writers who appear to have generated quite a following (e.g. Blavatsky and Bailey, Icke et al).

Philosophically speaking, I can't see a way to actually get to a 'truth'. All we have in terms of research is what is offered to us by others who claim to 'know' but who themselves are often relying on the information provided by others. Or at worst are making it up in order to make a coin or two. So where should we go from here? Is it having faith in our own common sense? Or is it settling with the view that resonates -

Yes, it's both. But never settling. What does your heart tell you is the truth? If the information that's being presented doesn't resonate 100% with you, then something is amiss. When an alleged absolute is being presented as fact based upon the information provided by others rather than the information intuited and simply uncovered, then one must employ their egoic, analytical mind to sort through it. The ego shouldn't be relegated as a useless hindrance to ascension but a steward for the higher self.

Originally Posted by Allie

and are either particularly reliable since we must all necessarily start with a bias/worldview built up over years of experiencing the world, each with our own small window and perspectives?

This is the stage in the game where we're supposed to be learning from the bias/worldview (or programming) from yesterday in order to determine when it's being used to manipulate us today.

Originally Posted by Allie

For me, going 'inward' isn't about mountain-top consciousness. I've found too many contradictions to settle into a camp. It's about finding my own relationship with the matter. I don't 'follow' any one belief or any one authority.

Good. Keep that about you.

Originally Posted by Allie

The clearing out of my rucksack did involve understanding the notion of personal responsibility, victim mentality, the tendency to blame others for where I was in life.

Exactly!So when something is presented that dismisses the notion of personal responsibility, don't you think it prudent to question it?

Originally Posted by Allie

In this sense going 'inward' didn't mean I came to the conclusion that all is illusion - more that my responses had tended to be automatic, that I was still relying on some outside force to give me information and that I needed to self-audit on a regular basis to check that I wasn't reacting according to the same templates.

When we just write our thoughts, the greatest truths reveal themselves. None of the answers are outside of you. So anything announcing that a savior outside of you is going to save you is something to be suspicious of.

Originally Posted by Sanat

Don't worry about "hijacking", Allie. Your thoughts/experience is much appreciated. Indeed, that is what sharing is about. Arguing over a given "positionality" is meaningless as it only inflames the ego and further polarizes the one's indulging in such activity. If you really want to add value to the thread than you share from your own experience. That is much appreciated indeed...

Sanat, that's good advice...but you aren't even following it. You're preaching the text of other people outside of you and using words like "positionality" to somehow lessen the experiences and perspectives of others like myself. This isn't even about taking a position, but trusting the messiah that's in every one of us to discern what is and what is not accurate guidance.

Originally Posted by Sanat

All those focused on "surviving" 2012 etc. are in reality missing the opportunity to face their mortality in a honest way. All those placing blame on others/the world/elite etc. are in reality blaming Creator/Creation as there is only One life being lived.

Really? And is expecting a savior somehow different from those that you say are laying blame? We did this to our world. We are responsible for the present condition of our world. Saying that someone else is to blame makes about as much sense as expecting someone (or some thing) else to save us from ourselves.

Originally Posted by Sanat

It takes tremendous courage to look at oneself, instead of blaming/projecting it on to others/the world/elite etc.

Truer words are seldom spoken. But I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around how the other side of the coin is different. We've got to look at ourselves, true - but then hand off the ultimate responsibility of our salvation to someone else? This piece of the puzzle is not fitting so well.

Originally Posted by Sanat

The humility that is needed for such an "inward turn" is incredible. So strong is the grip of the ego/mind complex in many many humans that they would rather die than to admit they are "wrong".

You sure got that right. The ego is very much interested in being right. But let's not confuse the true purpose of the ego in an attempt to validate the ego's wayward, programmed tendencies. The ego is never satisfied with now - it's forever existing in the past and in the future. Are you okay with being wrong tomorrow? Are you okay with being wrong yesterday? If all else other than now has been relegated as unimportant, then what are any of us attaching ourselves to? The answer: An illusion.

Originally Posted by Sanat

There is only one "enemy" and only one "anti-christ" and that is the ego/mind inside that has not been tamed. As long as your ego/mind/astralparasite complex makes you percieve "outside" enemies, you are lost in the illusion of life.

And transversely, if you perceive salvation as coming from an outside source, then you are also lost in the illusion of life.

The unchecked ego has been demonized by many, and for just cause! The ego wants to label, divide, judge, and compare. But the unchecked ego is a product of our religions, our media, our philosophies and dogma. As we progress in our awareness, shouldn't we use this knowledge to intentionally redefine the purpose of the ego? Give it a new job description instead of whipping it and labeling it as our downfall. And when information activates the programming that the ego soooooo loves to feast on, pull the reins and remind it of its' new job description. Who's in charge, here?

My motivation for sharing in this thread was not (and is not) to argue or be right. And I don't want anyone to be wrong. I simply want my brothers and sisters to remember who and what they are:
Divine.
Connected.
One.

[micjer]

http://www.cuttingedge.org/NEWS/n1094.cfm


"Now that we have established the Biblical Prophecy that foretells the existence of a False Religious Prophet that leads the world into worship of Antichrist, and now that we have established the Biblical truth that this false religious leader will claim to be Christian and will be accepted as such, we need now to review a most important, and pertinent part of the New World Order Plan. In NEWS1052, we reprinted the entire text of my seminar notes from a seminar given to members of the Boston of Theosophy, and to any "seekers" of spiritual truth. During this seminar, Bill Lambert, the New England Director of Theosophy, detailed the plan whereby the New World Order Religion would be established. Let us review the pertinent passages.


The name of this seminar, " POSSIBLE AND PROBABLE EVENTS IN THE FUTURE", was held at the Boston office of the House of Theosophy on 8/18/91. During this seminar lecture, Lambert gave many important and revealing aspects of the New World Order Plan to produce Antichrist and his False Prophet. Lambert revealed that the person had been selected to fulfill this religious leadership position, and it was none other than the Roman Catholic Pope!!"
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I am sorry, but I do not feel that the great harvest of 2012 has anything to do with the New World religion. But hey that's why there is chocalate and vanilla. To each there own.

[pontfx]

just watched some of the videos...with bill deagle. and david willcock ...the common denominator?....go to http://people.tribe.net/pontfx333 for info and pics...from a witness...

[orthodoxymoron]

What if we simply keep getting recycled back into earth civilization...whether we are good or bad? What if this earth really is our home? I kind of think we need to create heaven on earth for all of us...not just for those who finally get it right. I believe in a high standard of ethical behavior...but I don't believe in excluding people from the party. These are just my thoughts. They are not channelled from Ramtha or recieved on a Pleiadian craft. What I worry about is what I perceive to be an evil spirit and evil alien infestation of planet earth. I would rather have good spirits and good aliens living with us...or at least visiting us from time to time...without being tormented for thousands of years by the 'bad-guys'. Perhaps December 21, 2012 is Judgment Day in a Cosmic Custody Case with all of us being the children. I tend to think that we currently have very abusive parents. I would like to see the current tenants of the DUMB's evicted in 2012.

[Sanat]

I have asked Jessica Schab (Crystal Child) if she would share her thoughts/"downloads" about the subject of 2012. She told me that she will make a series of postings about it on her blog, and also perhaps put up a new youtube video(s) about it. I will post it all here when it is up of course.

I would recommend everyone following this thread to also check out the Astralwalker thread on 2012. A lot of nice pictures and interesting info regarding the peak of this Ascension Experience. Although I do not share all of the viewpoints in that thread, I am all for participating in worldwide meditations and I am glad the PC crew have been thinking in similar terms. I hope we can get as many people up for these events as possible! So please spread the word about this, and sign up for the newsletter.

This being said I would like to remind everyone that everything is moving along according to plan. The Level of Mass Consciousness has made a giant leap this year. It is truly unprecedented. I have seen (and measured) the difference in so many people around me, many of which are totally unaware of what is going on, but they still move along according to their pre-incarnative plan. I have tried to sum up 2008 in this message. There is nothing "drastic" to be done in most cases. All one needs to "do" is to go with the flow of life as it is bound to take you where you planned to go if you do not put up too much resistance...

I really do not think that the StS aliens will be allowed to "astral kidnap" any Soul on this planet, if such a plan is even in motion any longer at all. The planet is surrounded by highly evolved Service to Others oriented ET's here to make sure everything goes according to plan. In addition to this, a relativly large percentage of the population are Wanderers (Star Seeds) and Lightworkers at this time (in different stages of awakening). Nothing is left to "coincidences" in the bigger scheme of things. There is nothing special that needs to be "done", and there is nowhere special where one needs to "go". All one needs to "do" is to allow the awakening process to go as smoothly as possible. Understand where you are, and what time you are living in. This is no time for "worldy ambitions" and chasing "career". It is wakeup time. Become a "lucid dreamer" instead of a slave to the dream.

Everyone is being guided to where they are supposed to be, when they are supposed to be there. You are only as safe as you feel inside. Stay centered, calm and peaceful in the eye of the storm. The heat/Light will continue to increase as more and more people awaken. It is all orchestrated by Divine Providence - by Spirit/Source. All we need to do is play our little part in it and enjoy the show!

Happy New Year everyone!!

Love and gratitude for being now/here,

Sanat

Ps. When a latent Wanderer (Star Seed) starts to Awaken, things can move forward very very fast. Huge leaps in Level of Consciousness is possible due to what Bashar calls “the rubber band effect”. I have illustrated this graphically (see picture below). The graphs are loosely based on real people/Wanderers in my life. This “rubber band effect” is true on the individual level, as well as on the global Mass Consciousness level. The New is born/arises in "inverse ratio" with the collapse/crumbling/death of the old, much like we see in the outside mirror of "reality" in the world today, as the Level of Mass Consciousness keeps rising.

These categories are not to be seen as “rigid and distinct” of course. They should serve only as guidelines for different types of experiences that a Wanderer has signed up for. In reality there are as many varieties of these two “extremes” as there are Wanderers and people. The “average Human” graph is supposed to reflect a person born into a relatively resourceful and wealthy middle class.

A) All Wanderers come in with a relatively high incarnation LoC, but some volunteered/chose to delve deeply into the lower depths of the Scale in order to gain valuable experience of "human denial". Evolving out of this is a tough and valuable experience which also prepares them for their future roles in Service to Humanity. The individual “reward” is a chance to make really big leaps up the Scale, and thus evolve much higher than ones incarnation level in just one single lifetime. 3rd density is the hardest “school”, but also the most effective. Wanderers of type A thus aim to take full advantage of that fact.

B) Other Wanderers (probably the majority) never deviated very far from their incarnation level (most never go below the 200 limit). This means that their life has been relatively “stable”, and many such individuals do not have the faintest idea that they are not of this Earth. They are here to stabilize the higher vibrations and gain positions of influence in society until the time is ripe. That is perhaps their main service. They are not so much the "risky/gambling" types (like those of category A). Their "goal LoC" for this life is typically not set very much higher than their incarnation LoC. Thus, they have not "condensed" as much karma lessons into this life as those of category A.

Source: http://www.wakeupcall2012.com/calibr...erercategories

[Visvasa144]

An article by Henry Makow PHD "Illuminati Reveal Their Crazy Apocalyptic Agenda" with excerpts and quotes from Hidden Hand explaining "The Great Harvest"

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/makow...a28dec08.shtml

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by Visvasa144

An article by Henry Makow PHD "Illuminati Reveal Their Crazy Apocalyptic Agenda" with excerpts and quotes from Hidden Hand explaining "The Great Harvest"

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/makow...a28dec08.shtml

Thanks a lot! Very interesting to see how differently people interpret things. But Makow's credibility is lost when he deliberately misrepresent what "Hidden Hand" has said about the Harvest:

At the "Harvest" evolved souls will enter the "Fourth Density" with the Illuminati and enjoy a "Golden Age," while everyone else's soul will be transported to a "replica earth" where they will continue to "work on themselves."

This is not what Hidden Hand said at all. Hidden Hand said that he himself, and all of the "dark cabal elite" (if they make "negative harvest" (they must be more than 95% negative Service to ego/self oriented to make this) would go to a 4th density negative plane, and thus go through a cycle of intense suffering to "work off" the negative karma they have created here in this cycle. Only those that qualify for positive Harvest (i.e. 51%+ positive Service to Others oriented according to Ra and Hidden Hand) will go to 4th density positive, and live in a "golden age". Those that fall between these two "extremes" (i.e. the luke warms) will go to the "earth replica" and continue to work on their own karma there...

Some peoples "hatred" towards "the elite" overshadows everything else it seems. Many people are trapped in that kind of "victim consciousness" unfortunatly. People must "believe" whatever they want. But deliberately misrepresenting and twisting of material to "win a point" is counter-productive, and it hurts the credibility of the person doing it more than anyone else. Why not allow people to make up their own minds?

I wanted to add one thing: Is it not ironic when the "hate object" (in this case "Hidden Hand") come across as so much more "loving/likable/symphatic" and polite in his communication, than this person who claims to "fight for the Good against evil" (in this case Makow). The rabbithole goes very deep it seems... Who to trust but yourself?

I do like the picture though:





Love and gratitude,

Sanat

[Josefine]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

What if we simply keep getting recycled back into earth civilization...whether we are good or bad? What if this earth really is our home? I kind of think we need to create heaven on earth for all of us...not just for those who finally get it right. I believe in a high standard of ethical behavior...but I don't believe in excluding people from the party. These are just my thoughts. They are not channelled from Ramtha or recieved on a Pleiadian craft. What I worry about is what I perceive to be an evil spirit and evil alien infestation of planet earth. I would rather have good spirits and good aliens living with us...or at least visiting us from time to time...without being tormented for thousands of years by the 'bad-guys'. Perhaps December 21, 2012 is Judgment Day in a Cosmic Custody Case with all of us being the children. I tend to think that we currently have very abusive parents. I would like to see the current tenants of the DUMB's evicted in 2012.

Not so much abusive parents as opportunistic nannies.

Yes, their time is about to expire. We will gain our freedom, we have been told (I would not have been so sure if I had not been told). How it will come about is not so easy to see right now, - but it will happen.

I think we are 'healing the world and making it a better place, for you and for me and the en'tire human race' to say it with Michael Jackson. And we have all been invited to the healing party. Those that leave at various points, go to places agreed upon in advance, pre-incarnation.

'The harvest' is an illuminati misconception, something that they have made many mysteries around. As long as they perceive themselves as being on the checkerboard, they are as low as the 'sheeple' they despise or take pity upon.

It is only when we withdraw from the gameboard they can achieve a necessary shift in perception, and when that happens, they are on the midway path. They will cease to see themselves as teachers, they will be walking side-by-side, realizing that the learning goes both ways.

I read the Ra material 20 years ago, and I had to put the relevancy to what %? Truth is, I put it away. % of STS and STO is nonsensical, in my view, especially when it is said: If you only muster 51% you are on the safe side.

Neither is karma about reward and punishment, it is about balancing the experiences of several parallell lifetimes.

What matters is a shift in perception. We see a higher reality and in that reality the checkerboard game of black and white as played out in a dualistic 3D is seen for the illusion it is. THEN we REMEMBER our true identity as soverign and integrated in the I AM, as we always have been and always will be. We will then forgive ourselves and each other for having made the game so realistic that we became lost in it.

'The midway path' is where dualities merge. We do not become identical, we retain our uniqueness, but we see each other as an equal part of the whole.

For many of us it will be on this planet in a higher octave.

I wish all of us the strength we need to get thru 2009. It could be a bumpy road ahead, some will need more help than others. The healing party is also about helping each other thru the rough spots.