Something is a brewing, HMMMM

[tone3jaguar]

I have never heard a single story from anyone that visited any of the Sedona Vortex sites that has had a negative experience unless they slipped and injured themselves on the sand stone which does not count.

I do not look to people that are popular for the answers, I look for the answers myself. What so and so has to say about where we are headed and what is safe and what is not safe is irrelevant to my path. I did not even listen pas the first 5 min of Colliers presentation on the U-stream because he was preaching a dogma.

There is a huge difference between the way I present information and the way that others do. I show people what I have learned and then state that they should make up their own minds weather or not the information is important enough for them to integrate into their paradigms.

Where as others, not naming names, would stand up in front of thousands of people and evangelize the version of reality that they have adopted as if everyone should buy into it. That is dogma and giving away ones power to shape the future that is ahead of them. I do not care if it is the Dali Lama, Alex Collier, George Green, Pat Robertson, or who ever. If you buy into other peoples explanations of how things are then you are allowing others to construct your reality for you. Not figuratively, actually changing your future to be congruent with theirs.

It is like the Hopi said over a year ago in the message that they released

"Find your water and let the current take it where it will"

Not

"Find somebody elses water and get in their canoe and ride the rapids with them"

[Swanny]

No disrespect to anyone but I'm glad there are people like Tango here to speak out about what they feel is wrong. Long live freedom of speech

[Tango]

Hey.... Tone3jag... U said your completely mobile... Do you have your stuff

in the car right Now... The computer your on; yours or someone else's...

Are U staying with friends, relatives; do you have a weapon in the car with

you...?

Trooly,


Tango

[tone3jaguar]

Originally Posted by Tango

Hey.... Tone3jag... U said your completely mobile... Do you have your stuff

in the car right Now... The computer your on; yours or someone else's...

Are U staying with friends, relatives; do you have a weapon in the car with

you...?

Trooly,


Tango

Nope, I have two portable tool bags full of my tools, three 10 gal. plastic containers with the essentials in it, and clothes. I am on a laptop, it is my only computer. I do not need weapons, if I get into trouble I have other means of defending myself. Staying currently at my fathers house. This is the first time in a decade that I have not been paying rent.

This is because some arrogant illuminati loosers politically forced me from my position as head golf course superintendent at XYZ club in SWF. Luckly I have no debt other than the car payments, therefore the unemployment is more than enough to pay the bills.

The douche bags who cost me my job thought they won a battle. In reality they just gave me 6 mths. of needed R and R. I have tried to start up my own consulting business. This is very slow going because most people do not have any spare change to pay for metaphysical work.

Therefore, I am doing my best to keep my mind fresh and creativity flowing with the blog I created and have been enjoying this change of pace. I feel as though it will soon be time for me to make a move. Just waiting on the intuitive flash I need to lead me in the right direction.

[Tango]

Give me your word that if you start to lose it... You'll get help...

Also, promise me You won't hurt anyone; N' I'll stand down...

Do you Understand... ? Or, I'm going to send someone to talk to you...

Are You eating...?

Trooly,


Tango

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

Nope, I have two portable tool bags full of my tools, three 10 gal. plastic containers with the essentials in it, and clothes. I am on a laptop, it is my only computer. I do not need weapons, if I get into trouble I have other means of defending myself. Staying currently at my fathers house. This is the first time in a decade that I have not been paying rent.

This is because some arrogant illuminati loosers politically forced me from my position as head golf course superintendent at XYZ club in SWF. Luckly I have no debt other than the car payments, therefore the unemployment is more than enough to pay the bills.

The douche bags who cost me my job thought they won a battle. In reality they just gave me 6 mths. of needed R and R. I have tried to start up my own consulting business. This is very slow going because most people do not have any spare change to pay for metaphysical work.

Therefore, I am doing my best to keep my mind fresh and creativity flowing with the blog I created and have been enjoying this change of pace. I feel as though it will soon be time for me to make a move. Just waiting on the intuitive flash I need to lead me in the right direction.

[feardia]

Originally Posted by Tango

Give me your word that if you start to lose it... You'll get help...

Also, promise me You won't hurt anyone; N' I'll stand down...

Do you Understand... ? Or, I'm going to send someone to talk to you...

Are You eating...?

Trooly,


Tango

I think there is cause for concern all right, hmmmmmm...

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by Tango

Do you Understand... ? Or, I'm going to send someone to talk to you...

Tango,

this is entirely inappropriate for a public forum

You have been warned to be respectful to other members many times.

Now you are making what appears to be to be some kind of veiled threat. For goodness sake man - what are you thinking?

You have made quality contributions to this forum that have earned you a fair bit of slack, but the slack is not there anymore.

A..

[Lionhawk]

Ahhh! Brook that is wonderful to hear. I just got here and to hear you say what you did, kind of floors me in away. Well my dearest, you are not alone anymore if that is something I can say. Maybe the fire I started is starting to get bigger. That calls for a celebration. We can put all the logs on that fire now and there is no stopping it. That includes anyone else who wants to just put down their baggage and join a little party. A company of great spirits sounds like what the Doctor ordered. Leave your limits at the door and expand ourselves. Be free for a day without lugging around our blocks around our necks. Crack some jokes and lighten up. What say you people? Why not make light of the lives you have endured so far instead of jumping around like fleas on a Planet that could use some hugs, compassion, a little joy, and some freedom to express our true selves. Brook came out of hiding and why don't we start there and go on down the line?

Also thank-yous go out to all of you that have sent private messages to my inbox and the friends who have brought over my favorite pie. ahahahahaaa
It is all good and please don't feel like I am blowing anyone off as I have been very busy and I'm actually kind of slow to these new gadgets that I have never seen before.

What say you? Oh, lets keep those counters going though. Something we can look forward too.

[feardia]

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

I have never heard a single story from anyone that visited any of the Sedona Vortex ...

...It is like the Hopi said over a year ago in the message that they released

"Find your water and let the current take it where it will"

Not

"Find somebody elses water and get in their canoe and ride the rapids with them"

whatever floats your boat, I know my truth, and i am sure you know yours, i dont listen to everything alex c says or b&k for that matter, but there is truth everywhere, and for you there is probably a little bit of truth in what you are saying, i jumped into the river long ago, it is taking me home, i am enjoying the ride, i hope you do too,
DONT GET ON THE SHIPS
and the flu vaccine might be a bit dodgy too, just my intuition,
one love, people get ready....

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by feardia

I think there is a divergence in our timelines, i'll stick to 11 dimensions (and a possible 12th) and us on our way to the 5th, I trust no aliens and would be very concerned about what is being beamed into sedona (cydonia) from the moon,
good journey...

I'm not sure what is in Sedona now...but I was called there about 4 years ago...by my guides...to glimpse exactly what these "bad" guys did to me before...it was ugly..and they are muderous scum, trying to divert the paths of everyone.

So I'll say it again...let's get back on path and not let their perceived control divert us...I know we have it in us to discern the truth

[tone3jaguar]

Update, 9/27/09

823 Ships

55 Species

[feardia]

bring it on

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Tango

As, once again the Mods protect YOU.

Tango I don't know why you say this - I've got personal things to attend to today - and I'll get back with you later - your posts are sometimes quite difficult to interpret and as of yesterday I haven't had enough time to do anything but quickly skim.

[BROOK]

Brook,

It's all interconnected. Even with this thread that Tone3Jaguar started. It's all good as far as I am concerned. Others might disagree or might have blockages that prevent them to see the beauty in one another. Everyone has their own path and we should honor those paths. It doesn't have to be a persecution on any level no matter how ambiguous it may sound to someone else. These blockages within an individual does not justify them to exercise lower frequency tactics such as ridicule or any form of persecution onto another. It only causes compromise. Which is a common attribute in this duality. This is all second hand information and should not be accepted as your truth until you, yourself can prove it for yourself in the first hand. If the sharing of one's path can trigger something within you that is resonant, then a dialogue to investigate further for the purposes of soul growth should be encouraged. In my book, respect is earned. But that is my book and that works for me. It may not work for someone else and that's alright with me. Whatever floats your boat. If you think that you can cause obstruction onto another, who's path has the right to it's own sovereignty, then there is always going to be discourse. The person doing this will end up owning this discourse. Just another lesson. I don't know about anyone here but when you get tired of learning those lessons over and over and finally realize that the only information that you can't argue with is what you know in the first hand, then things start to make better sense. So if you are new to this, and you want to save yourself a bunch of unneeded grief, realize that second hand information from another path, may not align with you and you will always have to remember that. If you exercise any of the lower tactics, just know that the blocks you are reacting to are within you and not the one you think you are reacting against.

Your insight here is pin point accuracy

We all have a path...and the sharing of knowledge is wonderful...however...things when filtered through the conscious...perceived by the EGO....can be tricky at best....to top it off..the programing methods of the ones who fight this enlightenment, and findings of this important knowledge...can really confuse the messages.
Therefore learning what you can, then filtering as much as you can through "knowing" firsthand the truth and learning the purpose of your path is the key as far as I can see it...and that is exactly as I see it....maybe not how you perceive it...and you must learn that the truth you seek is just that as well..filtered by the programming and forces that "don't want you to know" the TRUTH.

Now, I have been on this forum for a year now..and have never spoken about these things...however, some of the posts by you Lionhart, have sparked a memory...not one that was forgotten..but one I choose to forget for a while until the time came that it would be of purpose...and exactly where to apply that knowledge.
I have been visited all my life...from the age of three...and even just recently..I had the marks to show me it was real....and when I was around 27...I actually dug an implant out of my leg...still have the scar...it won't go away. And I know there are other implants....anytime I get close to the truth....and ever since I have been on a path of enlightenment ...Migraine headaches triger...I, who have never had a migraine in my life..suffer now and have been for about the last 9 years...and there is no medicine that will stop it...it's just something I have had to learn to live with....but I know after years of cat scans, MRI, and waves of different types of drugs..that nothing will work..and...I know that anytime I try to remember..they trigger.
I have seen my past life...and I have seen brief glimpses of the future..the parts i am directly involved with...and all the implants they can put in me have not been able to repress that part of me....thankfully.

So...Lionhawk...my memory spark was the "PTAAH"...and it indeed must have an energy imprint connected with it..because as soon as you described it...I felt it. This anyone here can call "bs" on...I am not afraid of the ridicule anymore...in fact I spread the word to everyone I know and care about, in preparation for the coming events...and some will joke with me and say.."hay brook, have you seen any ufos lately"....but they know I'm not completely off my rocker, as they know the job I do to earn a living ...and the sanity I must maintain to do the job, goes hand in hand...so in other words..they know I'm not a complete "loon"..therefore when the time comes..the seed has been planted..for the "wake up"...which indeed is coming soon..hence the gravitation to this thread...and it's title "Something is brewing, HMMMM"

Indeed something is brewing...and things are moving at a pace that is hard to keep up with...so guys...lets get it together..and figure out a plan...to fulfill your path and mine, and anyone else who is on the path to bring us to the next level of evolution....it will be well worth the effort to put our minds together...and filter the truth and start to understand our true purpose here at this time.

Brook

[Myplanet2]

The healing energies and demands that we handle our stuff are out through the roof. Ignore the impetus and opportunity at your peril. There is a huge triggering going on, and it's for the purpose of dredging up what must become the focus for the personal spot light, and then it leaves, never to return. It's also natural to project what is coming up from within us onto others, because old habits die hard. But this is all getting better, unless you refuse to do your work.

The only place any real work is taking place is within us. Steven is right that that is also what all the interest we are receiving from out and about is focused on.

We are pioneering this shift, because it's never happened before that a planet ascended with a conscious population on board. We're along for this ride, or we hit the off ramp (die). ( A soup of circumstantial data is shaping up towards there being upwards of a billion people who know they will not be able to ride this out, and who will there for find their exit ticket along the way. Dowse THAT one T3J.)

Earth is headed for the 5th, and it is impossible for us to stay on her back without ourselves ascending to at least the 5th.

What we need is being provided. What ever path we are on, the clues for us to chase down are being left in our path (not necessarily by someone or something else. we are ourselves multidimensional and just because we have parts of that shut off at the moment doesn't mean it isn't active)

Where we are going, we can not take our baggage with us. It won't fit through the proverbial door.

If you are triggered, be thankful, because it's just showing you what's next for you to deal with.

I saw some incorrect statements about channeled work, unless we are looking at different things. I've gained more, personally since reading and listening to channeled works than in several thousand years of wallowing around in the dark. Of course personal discernment is always key, and you must never "believe" anything you encounter without confirming it with your intuition, and reading the energy signature for resonance with your own frequency.

And I very highly recommend that you find a way to be in personal contact with your guides as quickly as you can manage it. Nobody knows when the shift proceeds. Most of what we are now doing is in terms of preparation. packing for the trip. cleaning out the garage ahead of the move. Earth too. She's undergoing the same turmoil that we are, lightening her load as well, so to speak.

We have more friends now than we can count. There is so much help available. Just listen. With your heart. It won't speak through your mind (unless you've already connected through your heart.)

My own personal work is sped up to many hundreds of times normal pace. I'm going through the ringer, but I've never been happier and more free since entering this game of 3D, here on earth.

Enjoy yourselves. keep it light. And by all means, do your work. It's both the easiest and most difficult thing ever. But what a joy each accomplishment is.

Love you all.

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Tango

Yes, I risk being banned for sounding the alarm. But, I've been
wounded before.

I was out of town for the day visiting family gathered from 5 locations. Now, I'm playing catch up.

No one will be banned for respectfully sounding the alarm. No one has been banned from here for a long time. Don't call names, don't make personal attacks, don't make statements that look like threats to those not familiar with your intent. Say what you need to say "With Respect". Kerry does not condone any kind of censorship, nor any kind of senseless banning. If you want to warn, warn! Ridicule is not respectful - no one deserves that. Each is on their own path. Some will resonate with Tone3jaguar, some with Tango, some with Lionhawk, some with MyPlanet2 or Anchor. Some with parts of what several have to share.

Please stop bashing each other with the ridicule stick. I know each and every one of you is capable of respectful disagreement, some have just exercised that muscle more than others. Some have been wounded in ways you can barely imagine. Yes, some show more ego than others - do you have to shout it in their face every time they poke their head up to share?

[Barcarolle]

This thread has taken off - so much to catch up on

Myplanet2 made reference to a split "whether to stand up and engage, or whether to walk away from polarity and choose non judgement, unconditional love, and unity"

Interesting comment and mostly true, however unconditional love does not exist in the 3rd Dimension, you may attempt to hold a high frequency but unconditional love is a 5th+ Dimensional state of consciousness, this where I believe a fundamental issue is with people seeking the unconditional love frequency.

To completely raise your resonance or frequency you must pass the Shadow Self(dark side), you cannot pass it using ignorance of the Shadow Self and its existence, the problem I see are people just blocking out all the bad things creating a bubble, self imposed blockage or protective shield mechanism from the Shadow and by doing so creates denial to its existence. I notice so many people portray an artificial resonance without strong foundation and this I feel is where we must think about carefully as without this understanding we may never reach our goal. E.g. You talk to someone who is happy with themselves, joyous and in a fantastic mood, and if someone were to mention something negative(oh the market is going to collapse watch its only a matter of time) they cant handle the thought of the information, they resort to attacking the messenger sometimes showing a side that they themselves didn't even know about.

Those who understand and know of the shadow self and its part have the greatest opportunity in respecting its place and thus further understanding how unconditional love can be attained as once you reach unconditional love you no longer are in the 3D realm.

So being in love and light is a conscious choice of being but at the same time understanding the dark and shadow side and its roll is as equally important.

Namaste'

[Lionhawk]

That was a cool run down. Different but very much an important truth. Let me read that again. Absolutely! The template of duality is what operates here in this world. Which makes love conditional. Now pushing unconditional love into the fifth is very close as to what I have experienced. In the sense that the Angelic realm resides in the upper part of the fourth and unconditional love resides there as well. But for the purposes of the 5th, one must go there to be able to experience that. Well said! Also the statement I hear all the time is that the ego is a bad thing and shouldn't be able to participate in the journey. That will only cause more separation within you if you exercise that. Your ego can be a healthy ego and it is a part of who you are. Take it out of you and you will have a dull and boring existence. It puts some gratitude emotionally back into you. If it is healthy and balanced, it will also make things just go better. If you deny it you are deny a part of yourself. If you embrace it as a part of who you are, then you will have a better sense within you. Any denial of self is a blockage.

Balance is always key!

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Barcarolle

This thread has taken off - so much to catch up on

Myplanet2 made reference to a split "whether to stand up and engage, or whether to walk away from polarity and choose non judgement, unconditional love, and unity"

Interesting comment and mostly true, however unconditional love does not exist in the 3rd Dimension, you may attempt to hold a high frequency but unconditional love is a 5th+ Dimensional state of consciousness, this where I believe a fundamental issue is with people seeking the unconditional love frequency.

To completely raise your resonance or frequency you must pass the Shadow Self(dark side), you cannot pass it using ignorance of the Shadow Self and its existence, the problem I see are people just blocking out all the bad things creating a bubble, self imposed blockage or protective shield mechanism from the Shadow and by doing so creates denial to its existence. I notice so many people portray an artificial resonance without strong foundation and this I feel is where we must think about carefully as without this understanding we may never reach our goal. E.g. You talk to someone who is happy with themselves, joyous and in a fantastic mood, and if someone were to mention something negative(oh the market is going to collapse watch its only a matter of time) they cant handle the thought of the information, they resort to attacking the messenger sometimes showing a side that they themselves didn't even know about.

Those who understand and know of the shadow self and its part have the greatest opportunity in respecting its place and thus further understanding how unconditional love can be attained as once you reach unconditional love you no longer are in the 3D realm.

So being in love and light is a conscious choice of being but at the same time understanding the dark and shadow side and its roll is as equally important.

Namaste'

It's not easy to know whether you are using the same terms with the same definitions as others, so I refrain from disagreeing until it's clear. I think I see where you point, so let me elucidate a bit.

If it's true that Paradox in 4D means something different than it does in 3D, then the door is open to consider that things are changing at a basic level. The only person I've heard define paradox as a 4D construct was Jim self, who said that it means "what was true before may not be true now, and what was untrue before, may be true now." The net result would be choice, under that definition.

I'm not certain that unconditional love is unavailable in 3D, but I tend to agree. But that doesn't mean that will remain true. I can see a scenario where this could be. I've heard a few teachers mention that we're on uncharted territory right now in this shift, and that it may not be entirely accurate to think that we are going anywhere in this shift. The possibility has been suggested that we are bringing the higher dimensions here where we are. bringing heaven to earth, as another way of putting it.

Although it's not yet real to me, it makes some sense, or at least is worth considering.

I hesitate to concur that the shadow self must be passed before the frequency can be raised to 5D consciousness level. perhaps I don't know what you mean by that. I think it's plain that anyone who is oblivious of their dark side is going nowhere beyond 3D, because it would mean most of their work is before them. All the dark aspects of all the polarities have to be reintegrated and discharged before a truly higher frequency can be maintained for more than a short span. It's part of who we are. It's part of all that is, and as Bashar is fond of saying, "All that is, wouldn't be all that is, without all that is".

we split what we look at as polarity apart for contrast and context, and came to the densityville of 3D to fully experience that contrast.

So if you mean that this has to be repaired before stably climbing to the higher frequencies, approaching unconditional love, then I would agree with that notion.

What I'm seeing as I do my work and rise up, is that these dimensions are not discrete places, but that they are all available here and now, under the right circumstances. There is little 3d structure left for me now. I'm seeing a natural choice of 4D structures in my daily life, and I see myself consciously moving towards unconditional love, although I'm nowhere near yet. Just getting the first tastes. I don't know whether that means I'm making brief visits to 5D, or whether I'm bringing 5D tools to 3D.

Maybe the rules are changing. maybe as earth nears 4D, the new definition of paradox is becoming possible more broadly, and what was true a moment ago, is no longer true now. I'm staying flexible and open to this possibility.

having just spent some months examining my dark side, I can see why some would try to wall it off, but it can never work. Unless that too changes, and it can work.

Uncharted territory. we can make new rules.

[tone3jaguar]

I think the ET's look down at our planet and see a little of themselves in us. They where not always advanced spiritual beings. They went through this once upon a time just like we are. They probably just feel compassion for us.

[bushycat]

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

I think the ET's look down at our planet and see a little of themselves in us. They where not always advanced spiritual beings. They went through this once upon a time just like we are. They probably just feel compassion for us.

I'll bet you're quite right on this. I'll bet also we fascinate them enormously. Pretty good show going on.

[bushycat]

[MYPLANET

I think unconditonal love can exist in 3D when we "stradle" dimensions, 3D-4D, etc., infrequently getting glimpses of 4D, fleeting, then back to 3D with some memory of it. One could say we're already in all dimensions, but I'm speaking of our experience. In uncharted territory we can make new rules, because it seems true that the paradox, due to the nature of Now, has to keep changing. It's the horizon we don't ever reach. We get to a point which was horizon, but now the sky's changed.
I'm staying flexible, too, and staying open to all possibilities (cannot conceive negative ones). It's so fabulous being on the crest of a wave...

Love Always,
BushycatFONT="Arial Narrow"][/FONT]

[Barcarolle]

Took 3 hours but i finally caught up

I also agree with lionhawks reply about this not being a game, as mentioned my myplanet2.

This may have been a flippant remark but completely dangerous. if you honestly think this is a game then you have already given up.

Nearly all of the new age religions now preach slogans of giving your self to the lord, or giving up your power to another ect, i can see great danger in this as this also implys that someone will come to save us so dont worry or let someone else worry about it, its too difficult or who cares mentality.

All of these forms of conditioning are to prevent us from taking responsability and doing something for greater good for not only us but for everyone else, unfortunately so many people have the victim mentality conditioned in their being ........ the truth is we were not given a chance to know the truth for eons, and have been mind controled every step we have taken.

Here is a chance while we still have some freedoms left to act and make things difficult for these control freaks and give them something off their radar and AI super computers give them. If we move like sheep we are easily controled, but if we all scatter in all directions then things begin to work for us.

Namaste'

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Barcarolle

Took 3 hours but i finally caught up

I also agree with lionhawks reply about this not being a game, as mentioned my myplanet2.

This may have been a flippant remark but completely dangerous. if you honestly think this is a game then you have already given up.

Nearly all of the new age religions now preach slogans of giving your self to the lord, or giving up your power to another ect, i can see great danger in this as this also implys that someone will come to save us so dont worry or let someone else worry about it, its too difficult or who cares mentality.

All of these forms of conditioning are to prevent us from taking responsability and doing something for greater good for not only us but for everyone else, unfortunately so many people have the victim mentality conditioned in their being ........ the truth is we were not given a chance to know the truth for eons, and have been mind controled every step we have taken.

Here is a chance while we still have some freedoms left to act and make things difficult for these control freaks and give them something off their radar and AI super computers give them. If we move like sheep we are easily controled, but if we all scatter in all directions then things begin to work for us.

Namaste'

I was completely serious when I said this was a game. It's so obvious when looked at from outside. My wife yesterday recounted the story of an experience she had a few months back, where she was driving to the store and 3D flickered and winked out for a couple of seconds intermittently. Her 9th Dimensional Pleiadian guides told her she slipped through the "veil" to another dimension momentarily, and then put things back as they were. I've personally had the "hologram" waver and bend and twist, to where space was not uniform. These types of experience show things not to be as solid and rigid as they pretend to be.

I'm not sure how you are connecting dots here, because I don't interact with any new age religions, or even know what they are. The game here is extreme "highs and lows in polarity". So hell yeah, it can seem serious, but looked at from above, it's no more serious than stubbing the toe. War, death, pain, hatred, abuse, etc, at the end of the day, is no more serious than stubbing the toe. War is a stepped up football game, or chess game. Same thing only bigger and more extremes piled on.

No, there is no one to give ones responsibility and power to. Nobody in a position to receive such, would accept it. They know why we are here, and what we are here to do.

This isn't about giving up, or being a victim. Again, I don't know how you connect those things with likening what we are doing to a game.

What is not obvious from within this game, is that it has already been won. The game is over, and the contestants are still standing there on either side of the line in the sand saying "yeah???? What of it???? you want to go again????"

The idea of winners and losers or even gloating winners and sore losers, is only possible within the game. The game just needs exiting. just put down the football. It's over. We won. Walk away from the line, and so will the other "side". They are only still standing there glaring at you, because you are still standing there glaring at them.

[no caste]

MyPlanet2 -

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

I was completely serious when I said this was a game. It's so obvious when looked at from outside.

This reminds me of a quote I read recently: There is a God! And he's a gag writer!

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

What is not obvious from within this game, is that it has already been won. The game is over, and the contestants are still standing there on either side of the line in the sand saying "yeah???? What of it???? you want to go again????"

It's a game mirage IMO, to be played, in case it's not a mirage. All D's are equal, even 0 D, 1 D etc.

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

It's over. We won. Walk away from the line, and so will the other "side". They are only still standing there glaring at you, because you are still standing there glaring at them.

I have the feeling that we (humanity) have all looped through this before. It's in our memory. And I guess that would be genetic memory. I just had a thought about what 'harmonic convergence' means, for me. I'm going to think about it for a bit.