Bill Ryan's thread

[Boober]

Yes I think Bill goes way overboard constantly talking about Ron L Hubby. Seriously whats that all about???

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Boober

Yes I think Bill goes way overboard constantly talking about Ron L Hubby. Seriously whats that all about???

The fact that he was being almost rabidly vilified made me want to take a closer look at him and his work: the morphogenetic field rejects higher truths has been my observation. It was a case of "methinks they doth protest too much, hmmmmm".

His early work contributes to my spiritual awakening and understanding and is equivalent to the Bodhi path that Buddha taught his students.

There are other methods, but Buddha's bodhi path is simple and sure and brings wisdom and response-ability. Right now I am specifically talking about the method R3X, which I rely upon for attaining the abilities Buddha delineated. This R3X method came out of early writings of Hubbard. It would be a bit crass of me not to appreciate the work he did that is directly contributing to my very efficient and fast Bodhi path. It might have taken me 5 times as long without his further elucidation and exact processes for achieving the level of spiritual awakedness I have over the past two years.

The Excalibur processes developed by ex-church members and with auditors putting in hundreds of hours contributes to the rising consciousness on this planet. I am starting to be able to see that in my own clearing work.

The fact that the people you mentioned wrote defamatory books about him is inconsequential to me because I am not into cult of personality. The same with Dane Tops wanting to exonerate Hubbard. It is inconsequential to me.

I have no need to put Hubbard up or down, nor defend him in order to gain spiritual awareness from his writings. For example, Aleister Crowley had a quite perverted lifestyle but he sure was a good teacher and wrote a very good article on the practice of Yoga. I can read his article without any further association with him.

Perhaps that helps you understand why a good person like Bill Ryan can benefit from another person's research and compilations. In this case, Hubbard.

[Angel of the Mists]

[QUOTE=Gnosis5;214616],,,,,,,
His early work contributes to my spiritual awakening and understanding and is equivalent to the Bodhi path that Buddha taught his students.

This R3X method came out of early writings of Hubbard. It would be a bit crass of me not to appreciate the work he did that is directly contributing to my very efficient and fast Bodhi path. It might have taken me 5 times as long without his further elucidation and exact processes for achieving the level of spiritual awakedness I have over the past two years.

The Excalibur processes developed by ex-church members and with auditors putting in hundreds of hours contributes to the rising consciousness on this planet. I am starting to be able to see that in my own clearing work....

end of quote.

Hello folks, and Bill....

It's been sometime since I posted on Avalon, and reading through some of this thread today I am reminded how there are many teachers to challenge and facilitate our personal and spiritual growth. Some will resonate more with one than another. I liked what you shared about your own path Gnosis5, amd found myself resonating with your words. I find it quite interesting that such strong 'antipathy' appears to be generated with regard to some. My inclination would be to look at a little deeper at why I was feeling so suspicious, if that was the case.

It seems to me different processes are born from many schools of research, and many bear similarities. At the end of the day if a process helps me with my "clearing work", I welcome it!

Blessings to all of you, Angel

[Boober]

lol, my comment was not ment to be taken seriously.

[Gnosis5]

Yes, another sane and balanced common sense statement, thank you. I already have some ideas why I chose this particular clearing orientation. How one finds oneself is up to oneself and please share.

Gnosis


[QUOTE=Angel of the Mists;215167]

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

,,,,,,,
His early work contributes to my spiritual awakening and understanding and is equivalent to the Bodhi path that Buddha taught his students.

This R3X method came out of early writings of Hubbard. It would be a bit crass of me not to appreciate the work he did that is directly contributing to my very efficient and fast Bodhi path. It might have taken me 5 times as long without his further elucidation and exact processes for achieving the level of spiritual awakedness I have over the past two years.

The Excalibur processes developed by ex-church members and with auditors putting in hundreds of hours contributes to the rising consciousness on this planet. I am starting to be able to see that in my own clearing work....

end of quote.

Hello folks, and Bill....

It's been sometime since I posted on Avalon, and reading through some of this thread today I am reminded how there are many teachers to challenge and facilitate our personal and spiritual growth. Some will resonate more with one than another. I liked what you shared about your own path Gnosis5, amd found myself resonating with your words. I find it quite interesting that such strong 'antipathy' appears to be generated with regard to some. My inclination would be to look at a little deeper at why I was feeling so suspicious, if that was the case.

It seems to me different processes are born from many schools of research, and many bear similarities. At the end of the day if a process helps me with my "clearing work", I welcome it!

Blessings to all of you, Angel

[Dougall]

Hey Bill I see you are on the page now and probably answering the 30 or 40 questions that have been piling up. I saw Duncan on Jesse Venturas' show yesterday and thought he did pretty well. I hope if you and Kerry get a show you don't let them edit it like Conspiracy Theory or Monster Quest. They keep telling you what they are going to tell you and never get around to much. In fact Monster Quest never finds a damn thing.
Any way , have you been searching for news, preparing for Armageddon, climbing mountains or what?

[Fredkc]

Dear Karen, Anchor;

You've asked nicely (twice I think) and with neither effect, or response.

So I'll ask. could this thread be a bit easier to participate in, for Bill, and maybe 15 pages shorter, if you simply move some of this to... Oh... I don't know... Maybe something called, "NOT Bill Ryan's Thread" ?

Thanks,
Fred

[qbeac]

Happy New Year to everyone,

This is another addition to my previous posts (pag. 20. #478 and pag. 20. #494 and pag. 22. #527) regarding “real” versus “faked-Bluebeam” ET disclosure scenario (good ETs vs. dark ETs)”, because Alfred Webre (Note from qbeac: he seems to me an honest and well intended person) has recently also raised all warning flags about the possibility that the Obama ET disclosure could be a False Flag ET disclosure (or Project Bluebeam).

I’ve originally seen this new in the Spanish web site “Rafapal.com”, where Alfred Webre explains Rafael Palacios (owner of that site) his concerns in Spanish:

Alfred Webre denies the reliability of Michael Salla’s sources on ET contact
(Alfred Webre desmiente la fiabilidad de las fuentes de Michael Salla sobre contacto ET)
January 8th, 2010
http://www.rafapal.com/?p=3542

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Alfred Webre explains his concerns in detail in the following long article in English. I recommend reading the whole article, but I’ll just include here a few important paragraphs.

Barack Obama not disclosing extraterrestrial presence is top ET/UFO story of 2009
January 3, 2010. 7:50 PM. Seattle Exopolitics Examiner.
By Alfred Lambremont Webre
http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-Seatt...-story-of-2009

Brief excerpts:

Barack Obama not disclosing an extraterrestrial presence during 2009 is the top extraterrestrial-related story of 2009. Obama ended 2009 with non-disclosure after numerous reports of ‘imminent disclosure’ of an extraterrestrial presence including prediction of a specific disclosure date, November 27, 2009. Independent sources have reportedly confirmed the U.S. military leaking its meetings in 2009 with Reptilian, Grey, and a silicon-based civilization named the “Conformers” in an effort to move Obama, the military’s commander-in-chief, to disclosure.

(…)

If the Reptilian species that Source A met with are exopolitically aligned with the Reptilian species that Jim Sparks worked with, then some problematic questions arise regarding the U.S. military and the Obama administration’s extraterrestrial diplomacy and disclosure strategy.

Is the Obama administration’s covert ET diplomacy and disclosure strategy in the best interests of the American and human population?

(…)

If the headline of a Barack Obama disclosure speech is: “We are liaising with the same Reptilian and Grey extraterrestrials with whom we had secret agreements for decades,” that is a speech that opens the issue of potential liability by the U.S. government for acts committed both by the government and by the extraterrestrials during the period of these secret agreements.

Moreover, the scenario painted by Source A for a 2017 “Independence Day” mass sighting over cities by the “Controllers” appears to set humanity up for failure.

(…)

And who is to say that the whole "Controllers" scenario is not some elaborate intelligence psypos by a U.S. military-intelligence whose expertise is psychological operations?

(…)

There is something disturbing about the scenario unfolding behind Obama official state extraterrestrial disclosure, as disclosed by Source A and other sources connected to the Obama administration and U.S. government.

(…)

Any official state disclosure by Barack Obama resulting from secret negotiations with Reptilian, Grey, or Conformer civilizations are likely fraught with peril for the future of human rights and civil rights on this planet.

Recent human political history has been driven a by a series of False Flag operations in which military-intelligence, and national and international governmental authorities, organizations, and elites have either participated, or have implemented the cover-up, or the ensuing loss of civil and human rights. This trend was started by the assassination of John F. Kennedy in 1963, and supremely accelerated by the False Flag operation by U.S. military intelligence of September 11, 2001, which Barack Obama uses publicly as his justification for expansive war.

Is the top ET/UFO story of 2009 – non-disclosure of an extraterrestrial presence of Reptilians, Greys and Conformers – a continuation of such a series of False Flag operations and psyops, carried out with the aid of cooperating Reptilians, Greys, and "Conformers"?

Questions to Bill and Kerry:

As I already mentioned in my previous posts, and considering this issue (“good ET” disclosure versus Bluebeam scenario) is so important for the future of humanity, and considering that different Project Camelot interviewees have different-contradictory opinions about it:

Would it be possible for you, PC, to get the main experts on this subject together in the same room (Ex: Alfred Webre, David Wilcock, Michael Salla, Dr. Greer, etc.), and conduct an in depth interview-debate (or conference) among them to try to resolve these contradictions and clarify this issue?

If doing such a debate in person is not easy, could it be done by Skype?

Such a public debate could help all of us to discern which is info or disinfo, honest persons or double agents (gatekeepers), real ET disclosure or False Flag-Blubeam scenario.

The idea is that we (human beings) don’t get fooled again in such an important issue and that high level insiders get the warning so that they can take preventive measures.

Same questions for the 2012 mystery.

Thanks.

P.D. I agree with Onawah and Daft Ada, Nassim Haramein’s theory is awesome, impressive, I recommend it to everyone!!!

[Daft Ada]

Bill I agree with Onawah,
Have you seen the 8 hour lecture from Nasim Haramien?
His Unified field theory is awesome and certainly answers a lot of the questions that up to now the standard institutions have been unable to answer.
The statement and pictures from the satellite showing this comet which was twice the size of Jupiter, entering our solar system and going around the sun, is amazing to say the least, he shows a close up showing that just as the comet curves around the sun, there was a huge blast from the sun which hit the comet and moved it in it's orbit, presumably saving us from the effects of it. He then showed a video showing two UFO's flying into the sun prior to that event, both ships were larger than the earth.
Do you know anything about that from the point of view of some et's taking action to save us?

[Carrie1971]

I have been reading this daily for the past week waiting for a quick reply from him on any or all of the questions stated.

The way the place was programed it is done in a way that when a member logs in it shows the last time they were on line. You can also see where they posted last. Because of that I know Bill has "stopped by" but I also see he has not posted. ( I also understand that if anyone sat at his computer where his log in was stored then it could appear that he had logged in when in fact he was out and about. )

I know that the weather here in this part of North America is taking up most of the time frame of any extra time in just living life. So I am very sure it is the case with many others.

On an ending note. I for one do not feel Bill Ryan, Kerry Cassidy or any other "person" owes anyone any answer at all. IF anyone makes the effort to reply to an e-mail or to a post here that is great that the energy is being shared with all who read. However it is a privilige to have Bill or any person post thier words here. Remember: Life is a gift, and we must keep trying.

Be happy take care of you.

[ypestis]

Hi Bill,

Thanks for answering the questions!
I was wondering do you guys have any alert system planned for when the predicted solar flare that's heading our way wich will fry all electronics is going to hit? Do you think you will get contacted by insider scientists who will alarm you guys so you can put it up the site so people can get ready?

From what I've heard from James Gilliland it should come end 2009 beginning 2010..

Thank you!

[onawah]

I just discovered what appears to be another wonderful website. It's
http://www.fractalfield.com/
There's a short video in 2 parts which introduces it at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKmveexaw0E
It cover all kinds of bases re ascension and living healthfully on the planet

I would also like to hear more about what we can expect as far as a false flag Disclosure and the real thing.
Many reputable channelers have said that Obama was not the person the Illuminati wanted to win and that he is a good person to have in the White House now, would do as well as anyone could considering all that must be contended with, etc, and came in with a mission to help turn things around to a more positive agenda. It felt last year like that might actually be the case, and we were on our way to Disclosure, etc, but there seems to be a lot of doubt now, either because Obama just can't contend with it all, that he is actually just another puppet, or that the time just hasn't come yet for the tide to turn. (Maybe he is having a spiritual struggle of his own to open to the Light...in which case, he surely needs our support.)
Is it just me, or are things really seeming to be at the tipping point now? With the US economy in such dire straits, there seems to be an enormous amount of pressure, and perhaps it's anyone's guess as to what will happen, but it SURE feels like something's got to give.
I'm also wondering if the blue spiral over Norway helped to create the extreme weather conditions we are having now. It seems pretty clear the spiral originated from HAARP, though one channeler I follow, Suzy Ward, says it was of ET origin. (Seems unlikely to me.)
Finally, I read that Obama has given Interpol increased power, which strips US citizens of more civil liberties, but some are speculating it is because he wants to have more access to secret documents so that criminal activities committed by Bush, Cheney, etc can be revealed and held accountable.
Any inside word on this?

[Rena]

Hi Bill,
Could you post what happened to the MK-Ultra conference that was suppose to be held next month? On the Project Camelot it stated it was a venue problem, what could have been the problem? Thanks in advance, Rena.

[DoctorWho]

It has been updated to say now that conference will be pushed back at a later point this year. If you go the the conference website, they give a little bit more detail.
Bill "the Doctor"

[eleni]

Conference is postponed (I'm one of the speakers) and several of us are suggesting it to be held in California as the Awake and Aware conference was held there with no issues from the hotel.

Our feeling is that the PTB gave warnings to the hotels- we have no proof but it was odd that 3 hotels backed out.

As I mentioned before- several had a direct presence warning which may or may not have been related to speaking at the conference, and one speaker was warned and that speaker backed out of the conference.

[Myra]

Originally Posted by eleni

Conference is postponed (I'm one of the speakers) and several of us are suggesting it to be held in California as the Awake and Aware conference was held there with no issues from the hotel.

Our feeling is that the PTB gave warnings to the hotels- we have no proof but it was odd that 3 hotels backed out.

As I mentioned before- several had a direct presence warning which may or may not have been related to speaking at the conference, and one speaker was warned and that speaker backed out of the conference.

What??? Yes no issues here with the Calif connections we may have your back on that one just in case anything is a problem. Let me know.

[mkspllmn]

Is this true?: Bill has not been heard from on this forum since Dec. 31. He stated that he would be back on the 2nd. It is now the 10th.

[Daft Ada]

Originally Posted by mkspllmn

Is this true?: Bill has not been heard from on this forum since Dec. 31. He stated that he would be back on the 2nd. It is now the 10th.

It feels to me like something is going down as nothing of any consequence has been posted on their site for quite some time either, the archives of the radio shows and blogs are way behind

[Brinty]

Originally Posted by mkspllmn

Is this true?: Bill has not been heard from on this forum since Dec. 31. He stated that he would be back on the 2nd. It is now the 10th.

I'd be inclined to think that he's highly peed off with all the irrelevant chitter-chatter and bickering that's been prevalent on a thread that was intended as a question and answer thread. I personally would have thrown the towel in weeks ago.

[mkspllmn]

Originally Posted by Brinty

I'd be inclined to think that he's highly peed off with all the irrelevant chitter-chatter and bickering that's been prevalent on a thread that was intended as a question and answer thread. I personally would have thrown the towel in weeks ago.

That could be but would it be like him to just abandon his own project without any closure?

Maybe when he comes back it wont really be him!

[mikey]

...on a serious note...just to say unconditional respect and gratitude to you, kerry and all involved behind the scenes at camelot. as you are aware im sure, there are no coincidences, you are loved more than you know. on a lighter note...do you have more than one hat?! peace always, mikey aka bananaman

[Shaynard]

Bill has the greatest analogies ever. I "borrow" them often because they are always so inspiring even when talking to something "scary".

You are much loved Bill.. No question.. Just my best wishes. I've waited a long time to watch you play, and as I've said in another thread.. I am enjoying the show. Thank you.

In light, of love
Shaynard

[Bill Ryan]

Hi again, All:

Originally Posted by AnarChrist

1a) are you aware of [L Ron Hubbard’s] history and involvment with the occult, the OTO and Aleister Crowley?

1b) if so, his horrible science fiction aside, why would you consider endorsing him (if you are not, i apoogize, though it seems as if you do to me) or use anything associated with him?

2) Are you familiar with Carl Jung, his work or theories on the UFO phenomena? For that matter, do you or Kerry have any formal (or informal) training or educational background in the area of Psychology or Sociology?

3) In your opinion, what is the best thing for anyone to do or focus on in the interest of helping this whole drama to have the greatest possible happy ending (new beginning?) for everyone and everything here alive upon our beautiful planet?

1a) Yes. But there’s a LOT of disinfo out there with the intention of discrediting Hubbard. Don’t just believe everything you read on the internet! The best think you could do is talk with someone who’s met him and worked with him (they’re still around).

The second best thing would be to read a VERY good, balanced book about him (based on his personal experiences working shoulder-to-shoulder with Hubbard in the 70s) by Peter Moon, the author of the Montauk series of books. His book, which is basically autobiographical, is excellent. Don’t be put off by the title.

The Montauk Book of the Dead

1b) What I’ve done is shared my own personal (extremely positive) experiences, and referred to the positive experiences of others. Note again that I never knew or met Hubbard and was never in the Church of Scientology - which I do NOT endorse. The Free Zone (and Ron’s Org in particular) is totally different.

2) Yes, I used to give seminars on the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI), based on Carl Jung's work. I did a year of psychology at university in conjunction with my maths and physics degree. I have a high regard for Jung's work.

3) See my answer below... a lot of people are working spiritually/metaphysically to avert bad outcomes. But practical action is also needed. They go hand in hand.

If one doesn't know what project to work on, work on the project which is yourself.

Originally Posted by morganlilith

Do you have any thoughts on reverse speech? and in that same direction, have you looked into peggy kane's work with it?

Reverse Speech has always seemed to me like a Rorschach (inkblot) test. I’ve never been able to hear anything at all.... until it’s suggested to me what I should be hearing. Then of course I identify the suggested pattern (and so does everyone else).

But humans operate by recognizing agreed-on patterns (which is what all language and music is, and most other things in life also), and are immensely susceptible to suggestion. To really analyze reverse speech, you have to listen without any front-loading (i.e. no-one telling you beforehand what you should be hearing)... and then see if what you hear (if anything) is the same as what others hear. It’s worth doing that experiment.

Originally Posted by M-1

Hi Bill,
Can Camelot interview Cliff and publish soon for two reasons really 1) the great information exchange and 2)calm the waters for all in this time of transition?

See my earlier post on p.25: Clif declined Kerry’s invitation to appear on her radio show to discuss all this with her and myself.

Originally Posted by SpaceJockey

My questions:

1. Will there be an Erich von Daniken full interview?

2. As a consumer of the alternative media I always had the impression that the alternative media always exaggerates (famine, martial law, 3rd world war starting all the time, economy imploding in a few month and so on… but it never happens), and has a serious problem with accuracy (example: it’s the Zionists, it’s the Nazis, it’s the Illuminati, it’s the Vatican, it’s the masons, it’s the bad aliens, it’s the reptilians, it’s demons from other dimensions and so on). I was wondering if Project Camelot can comment on this issue, perhaps propose an explanation.

1) Not at all impossible to do a full interview with von Däniken... but nothing’s planned.

2) Great question. Here’s my best answer:

Just because we were warned about something which didn’t happen, it doesn’t mean the information was bad. I’m personally as sure as I can be that hundreds (maybe many thousands) of people round the world are working spiritually/metaphysically to prevent bad things from happening. For that to work best, you have to know what you’re trying to prevent, and what the potential problem is.

I know people personally who’ve been working in mitigation against the Swine Flu, the vaccination program, and an Israeli strike against Iran. There are two basic possibilities: either these were all false alarms to begin with - or there really were serious problems, which have been averted. In some cases, we might never know. See the whole discussion about Timeline 1, variant 83.

A case in point was Bill Deagle’s nightmare vision in October 2008 about the nuke in an American city. That sounded like a very real experience to us: when he first phoned us he could barely talk, he was so shaken up. Something had happened.

It’s not crazy to postulate that that event did occur, but on a different timeline. That’s not the same as saying that it never happened at all and always was totally unreal. It seems plausible that there might be an alternative reality (or parallel timeline) in which George Bush remained in office, or another one in which Sarah Palin somehow ended up as President.

These alternative realities containing plausible events might in some very real sense exist and be accessible (or avoidable) with sufficiently high technology... or conscious intervention.

Cheers, Bill

[GaiaLove]

Originally Posted by D9Magestic

Is there anyway that I can change my Avatar to say my old DoD security pass.

Hello D9 and welcome aboard.

Regarding your avatar, In your User CP, there is a section under Settings & Options
named 'Edit Avatar'. In there you can select from the ones available or at
the bottom of the page you have the option to upload your own from the DoD .

Hope this helps

[franciejones]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Thanks, Bill.

I have a concern about the mission of Camelot witness Dr Bill Deagle being undermined by his critics.

Specifically I am referring to the fact that evidently Clif High of Half Past Human has said publicly that Dr Bill is a paid CIA agent. My understanding is that Clif bases this opinion on the fact that Dr Bill is a "non-starter" in Clif's data gathering which means that he does not resonate OR simply put, he is lying. This is what I've seen posted on a thread here at Avalon.

Can you address this at all? Is Clif High's technology and interpretation credible in your opinion?

Seashore....I remember this conversation on a thread and I was the one who responded. Clif never said he was a paid CIA agent. He said Deagle was a nonstarter..to say I am upset that you made the wrong claim is quite the understatement. And I am checking to find out if Clif EVER had a PI check out Deagle which I am quite sure is more false information posted here. I will report back as soon as I get an answer

Mod Edit: Please don't jijack this thread - post a link here to a new thread that you start or post it back to the old one and post your answer this. This is questions for Bill to answer - only please.