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Old 11-28-2008, 05:36 PM   #376
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Yes... is the diarrhea today yesterdays Thanksgiving eat-a-thon? or the 4 drops of MMS? I'm betting on Thanksgiving
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Old 11-29-2008, 11:45 PM   #377
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November 29, 2008

Ok, here is my best guess as to what happened.
I was on very high doses of MMS and NOT taking any vitamin C into my body.
I then went off it all-at-once and my body was really lacking the vitamin C.
Therefore, I think it stands to reason that I became susceptible to cold immediately.

I should note that:
I used to have bad allergies. Especially this time of year.
When I came off the MMS my allergies resurfaced right away.
This also causes immune system to be low.

I did get my cold and usually my herpes simplex virus would show itself when my immunity was low.
This time it didn't. So that is promising.

I'm not sure which way to go at this point.
I guess a test would be a start.

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Old 11-29-2008, 11:56 PM   #378
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Well, I'd kick back to 15 drops 2x a day and see if your cold, which normally lasts 6 or 7 days, is gone in 2 or so. I think that's the way it's supposed to work. <G>

BTW, thanks for being such a good reporter, ampgod. Because of your experience, I'm on my "trip" and so is my cat.
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Old 11-30-2008, 01:00 AM   #379
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Hi Ampgod,
did you have colds as a child very often?
Could be an old problem coming back and saying hello on the way out.
I have seen this with homeopathic medicine as well.
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Old 11-30-2008, 02:58 AM   #380
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November 29, 2008

Ok, here is my best guess as to what happened.
I was on very high doses of MMS and NOT taking any vitamin C into my body.
I then went off it all-at-once and my body was really lacking the vitamin C.
Therefore, I think it stands to reason that I became susceptible to cold immediately.

If anyone has any ideas about this please comment.

Ampgod, taking a single large dose of vit C halfway between MMS doses might work for you.

I have been taking MMS for a short time and tried to avoid C as well but missed it. Apparently the only downside to vit C is that it reduces the effectiveness of the MMS. When I had bad reactions to mms I was drinking vit c to reduce the reaction. Not sure how effective that was but it seemed to comfort.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:00 AM   #381
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Boy, a half a glass of juice doesn't hide the taste very well once you get to 7 drops, does it?

And I still have a single drop does for my cat for tonite where I drink the rest. But fortunately, it will taste just fine.

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Old 11-30-2008, 04:47 AM   #382
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Thank you guys!

I'm just not sure about the vitamin C. I may take your advice and have a little here and there.
I still am not sure what happened here. Just guessing.

The cold is on it's way out now. I'm feeling better.
My throat does not hurt anymore.
(but I did use the Bob beck Magnetic Pulser for 2 hours on my lymph nodes of throat. Also 4 glasses over 2 days of colloidal Silver.)

I figured I should keep hitting the MMS just incase there is something still lurking around.

I was happy to see my lips NOT looking irritated.
Just before a breakout they have a certain look.
This time the lip color looked normal all the way through my throat sickness/cold.
So something good is happening there for sure.

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Old 11-30-2008, 05:29 AM   #383
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Good for you man.
Very pleased to read you're feeling better.
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:10 AM   #384
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Hi Ampgod,
did you have colds as a child very often?
Could be an old problem coming back and saying hello on the way out.
I have seen this with homeopathic medicine as well.
Hello Peer,

I have always had colds. Yes.

I was the kid that got every little virus/bug that was flying around.
My allergies always kept my immunity lower then most.
My allergies didn't seem that bad until later in my life.
They got to a point where they were very severe and sometimes would cause me to have to stay in bed.
I imagine just detoxing helped that a bunch.
Now, I can clearly see an approximate 95% improvement when taking MMS.
So as for allergies I am completely sold on MMS and Highly recommend it.
I will use it every year at this time of year at the very least.

As for allergy dosages I'm not sure what will be needed for others.
They will have to find the magic number of drops for there body.


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Old 11-30-2008, 09:15 PM   #385
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I suppose you have had al vaccinations you can think of then.
Those are most likely the source of catching up with everything that flies and hangs around.
Vaccinations kill your immunity system.
A good classical homeopath can help you get rid of the vaccination damage even after 30 or 40 years and that will most likely be the end then of your allergy history without havin to take MMS all the time.
Classical homeopathy even goes into the energetical level where there is nothing more even for MMS to react with.
I know there are classical homeopaths on the forum so if they could please step forward and tell their story.

You will find all info on that subject here:

http://www.tinussmits.com/english/
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:57 PM   #386
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I tried using homeopathy to get rid of a wart, but it didnt work so I lost faith in it
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:13 AM   #387
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Had a car once, wouldn't start.
Been walkin' ever since..

Have seen miracles with homeopathy though like having rheumatic pains for over half a year so bad that I could not lift an arm anymore and getting rid of the pain overnight after taking one dose of the right thing.
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Old 12-01-2008, 02:21 AM   #388
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Been doing MMS for a week, at first I thought I gulped pool water! My aches pains I've had for some time are going away. I went to my class reunion, drank like a fish, never got drunk :-( or hungover ;-). Good stuff so far!
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Old 12-01-2008, 02:51 AM   #389
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As I mentioned, I have a stem cell lab in Ecuador. Got tired of getting arrested or raided in the States. One of the things that umbilical cord stem cells seems to be working for is Multiple Sclerosis, a disease of the "insulations cells" around the "wires" (axons) in the spinal cord.

THese cells (Schwann cells) get attacked by the body's immune system. Like the pancreatic Islet Cells get attacked in type I Diabetes. Why should that happen? Why should the body be attacking itself?

Well, one reason seems to be mercury toxicity, as has been mentioned on this thread. Another seems to be a chronic viral illness. Viruses that seem to be associated with MS include Measles, Epstein-Barr Virus (infectious Mononucleosis), Cytomegalovirus, and Human Herpesvirus 6.

The last three of these viruses are herpes viruses, related to Herpes Simplex or Genital Herpes. As you may know, herpes viruses set up housekeeping in the nerve cells, and during times of stress, when the immune system is not vigilant enough, they reactivate, multiply, and express as a cold sore or herpetic lesion. These other viruses are more likely to cause a chronic illness, chronic fatigue syndrome. And as for measles, it is now administered as an attenuated virus that is designed to live forever in the body--a vaccine.

As the body makes antibodies to fight these viruses, it seems that some of them cross-react and attack normal human tissues. Kind of like "collateral damage", when the attack of some US jets tends to wipe out an Afghan wedding party. (WIth diabetes, the body is having a reaction to cows milk protein that has been modified by pasteurization, but that is a different story.) In MS, the Schwann Cells seem to be the ones attacked.

Well, it makes sense that reducing the amount of virus in the body would reduce the body's production of antibodies against that virus. So, here is the point of all of this, I recommend to the MS patients that they go through a full course of MMS, up to 15 drops twice a day, to get rid of the virus (the cause), before they get stem cell grafts. That way, the graft will not be wasted by the body attacking the newly repaired cells.

Similarly, I also recommend MMS to MOST stem cell recipients. Stem cells are like little "search and repair" nanorobots. They travel around and look for lesions to repair. IF the body is full of yeast, toenail fungus, abnormal intestinal bacterial, inflammed gut, etc, then the stem cells will go there, iinstead of the place we want them to go. Fortunately, the MMS will clean out the infection, and most of the time, the inflammation, that we are worried about. Then, the stem cells can go where we want them to go, and do their thing.

Thought you might find that interesting!
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Very good information; excellent posting. I've been aggressively researching the MMS since September and started administering dosages to myself about two weeks ago. I'm sort of a self-learned proponent of homeopathic and holistic methods [50 years]~~mostly my passion is botanical medicine. I've had success in this area with other peoples' health afflictions, and some my own. Recently decided to add MMS to my potpourri of healing "assistances".
I wanted to ask you what your opinion is, having to do with taking the MMS on top of food, versus an empty stomach, or semi-empty stomach. I know that systemic enzymes work completely different, depending on whether they're ingested with food, or on empty stomach; they actually [I]do different things[I] , perform a different activity, versus which way they are ingested.
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Old 12-01-2008, 12:58 PM   #390
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For dutch people to order nacol2
http://www.carlroth.nl/catalogue/cat...nl-nl&catId=NL
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:47 PM   #391
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I wanted to ask you what your opinion is, having to do with taking the MMS on top of food, versus an empty stomach, or semi-empty stomach. I know that systemic enzymes work completely different, depending on whether they're ingested with food, or on empty stomach; they actually [I]do different things[I] , perform a different activity, versus which way they are ingested.
If you take Hydrogen peroxide orally, on a full stomach, most of the activity of the peroxide is spent oxidizing the food in the stomach. Peroxide is also broken down by an enzyme called "catalase", which is present in saliva and blood. (Try using peroxide on a blood stain, or rinsing your mouth with it, and you will see what I mean.)

MMS is not broken down by catalase, but its activity still seems to be used up at least partially by the food in the stomach, which is oxidized by the MMS. So, in order to get the strongest effect of MMS, use it on an empty stomach. If you can't "stomach it" that way, then using it with food in your stomach is better than not using it at all!
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:08 PM   #392
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Hi

I have ordered MMS and should be recieving it any day in the mail now. I am currently seeing a Naturopathic doctor here in Toronto and I am taking a bunch of products which I will list below. I would like to take MMS while continuing with the protocol that my ND layed out for me.

Will any of these proucts prevent MMS from working or worse cause any adverse reactions?

AOR classic series - MACA

Vitazan - Mercury Shield - each capsule contains 500 mg N-Acetyl-Cysteine, 200 mg VitaminC and 50 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid

Pleo Sancom - contains 5ml Mucor racemosus, 5ml Aspergillus

Synergistics - Digestant #2 Enzymes

Pleo Citro - Citric Acid

Rejuvenate Cell Therapy with Fulvic Acid

Ambrosia - Liquid Chi - an assortment of minerals

I will probably discuss this with my ND before taking MMS but my guess is that he will recommend that I stay on my current regime and not introduce anything else at this time. Thats why I am posting this information looking for a 2nd opinion. The protocol that I am on is helping me, but I have been dealing with this issue for over 10 years now and my main discomforts are poor digestion, constant bloating, no sex drive, deep seeded tiredness(even though my energy levels are good) and a feeling that something has a grip on my nervous system. I have seen many different MD's/Specialist and no diagnosis has ever been made.

Any reply will be appreciated.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:24 PM   #393
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Vitazan - Mercury Shield - each capsule contains 500 mg N-Acetyl-Cysteine, 200 mg VitaminC and 50 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
Blessings Tuuco,

Jim Humble definitely recommends taking Vitamin C 4 hours away from any MMS and Activator ingestion. It will negate the effect of the MMS. It's also recommended to not take any prescriptions within 4 hours of the MMS and Activator protocol as the oxidation will break down the chemicals and toxins in the pharmaceuticals.

Begin reading about MMS by downloading the Free Part 1 of Jim Humble's book at this authorized website:

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Low cost MMS and Activator and low cost shipping, including worldwide.

Click on ABOUT MMS, scroll down to MMS RESOURCES and click on FREE DOWNLOAD. More information regarding protocol under MMS PROTOCOL on home page. 'New' 3rd Edition book also available there.

MMS Professional™ and Miracle Mineral Solution, Professional Grade™ are registered trademarks of PGL International, LLC. MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality. Look for the MMS Professional™ label when using MMS or recommending to clients or customers.

SEE MANY MORE PREVIOUS POSTS BY PEACEANDLOVE STARTING ON PAGE #2, POST #33 regarding safety and protocol.

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Old 12-01-2008, 06:43 PM   #394
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Two different "empty stomach" methods for taking MMS (or any other medicinal concoction): [1]....ok; so yer a little bit hungry; you know you have an empty stomach~~you take the MMS; and maybe within a few minutes, or fairly soon~~you eat. [2nd 'empty stomach method']; ....a bit hungry=empty stomach~~down with the MMS. Only, this time you don't eat; also try to drink minimal or 'no' fluids. I try to go at least 2 hours after taking it, before I eat something. No matter what degree of hunger you had before ingesting the MMS~~you won't have hunger after you drink the mixture down.
Even if you go another couple hours without food. If one will actually experiment around with these different "ways" to ingest the MMS, they will be curious, having to do with 'different'(?) results.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:43 PM   #395
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Hi, I am new to this group. I have just started taking MMS, and have been researching it very thoroughly in forums on the web.

I found a forum post that says if you eat an apple when you take the MMS, it will not make you sick or give you diarrhea. The apple absorbs toxins produced by MMS and prevents the nausea and diarrhea. This is according to Jim Humble himself.

I am on my second dose of 2 drops today. Working slowly upwards. No nausea or sickness, but that must mean the apple works!
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:10 PM   #396
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Hi everyone, can someone please explain the difference between what MMS does and what antioxidants do. From my understanding its opposing processes. "The process of oxidation in the human body damages cell membranes and other structures including cellular proteins, lipids and DNA. When oxygen is metabolised, it creates ‘free radicals’ which steal electrons from other molecules, causing damage." "Antioxidants are found in certain foods that neutralise free radicals."
So heres my confusion, antioxidants function as detoxifying the body by neutralising free radicals caused by oxidation.
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:22 AM   #397
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Just got my MMS in the mail today. I have a question that I don't think has been addressed yet. Since the MMS kills bacteria, does it also target "good" bacteria? What about taking probiotics? Thanks for your help.

ETA- I found an answer in one of the posts on page 3, but I'd still like to hear some ideas on MMS and probiotics.

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Old 12-03-2008, 10:24 AM   #398
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I have a question that I don't think has been addressed yet. Since the MMS kills bacteria, does it also target "good" bacteria? What about taking probiotics? Thanks for your help.
Blessings Plan 9,

Hope this answers your question. Here is some information from Jim Humble's Website:

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2. Finette (a critic) claims Jim made a false statement: Good bacteria can't be harmed "What about GOOD bacteria that thrive in ACID environments ( almost all of the probiotics like lactobacillus). What is ingesting an alkaline doing to THEM??? while many can't make it past stomach acids, some DO and others do well in the slightly less acid but NOT alkaline GI tract, beyond the stomach, as well. if ANY bacteria or viruses are harmed, so too will the “good” bacteria."

2. Jim’s Answer: "Finnette doesn’t understand the chemistry. MMS is not alkaline, it is acid, so one is not ingesting an alkaline. Harming the pathogens has to do with oxidizing them. The oxidization process does not care if the environment is acidic or alkaline. The good bacteria is not harmed because good bacteria is aerobic bacteria. The chlorine dioxide has the weakest oxidization potential of all the oxidizers and it simply does not have the strength to harm aerobic bacteria."


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Old 12-03-2008, 11:34 AM   #399
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Thank you so much for your reply, peaceandlove! I just took my first dose (1 drop). Now I wait and see. I was looking at the posts to see if MMS should be taken on an empty stomach. To eat or not to eat- that is the question . So many different answers, but I guess whatever works best for your body is what you should do.
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I was looking at the posts to see if MMS should be taken on an empty stomach. To eat or not to eat- that is the question .
Hey Plan 9, I took my first steps yesterday!

After a fairly hefty meal at my inlaws i returned home and made up the citric acid solution.

I used a 2/10 drop combination to start off with, about 2 hours after eating.

This morning i made up a 4/20 combi (before eating) with nothing to note effect wise.

Tonight i will go 5/25 After eating.

My toilet is not far away


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