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Old 10-15-2008, 02:07 AM   #1
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As of right now the Conservatives have a 30 seat lead over the Liberals and i couldn't be more disappointed. Stephen Harper spent 300 million dollars to call this election and for good cause - pay to win.

*shakes head* i wonder about this carbon tax and how it effected the Liberal turn out i never agreed to that tax but would rather deal with that then Harper.

What a lousy choice in all honesty... NDP has a nice share of seats but then again its just splitting the votes to thin and allowing the Conservatives to win, i always told people a vote for NDP is a vote for Conservatives even if the ideology is much separate.

This really sucks honestly.
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:14 AM   #2
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oh man...you got me thinking about the feds...then,

I just threw up in my mouth a little.
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:15 AM   #3
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I completely agree with you, John. But from all my research, Harper was bound to continue on as he has been as to continue what the "so called elite" has in store with us. It's no secret that Harper has plenty of connections and IMO, elections arent for the people, they provide the distraction to lead us to believe we actually have a say. I don't believe in reality, that he won. IMO and regardless who the "elite" put in office, they'll soon all crumble. Tis 2008, only four more years to watch as they all come tumbling down.

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Old 10-15-2008, 02:27 AM   #4
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As of 7:30 pst:

CON
35.50
LIB
29.73
BQ
5.54
NDP
21.10
IND
1.22
GRN
6.43
OTH
0.49

How big of a lead does it take to win a majority?
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:38 AM   #5
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50%+

it's the #of seats out of the 308

155 seats out of the 308. I am praying for a minority here. That is why this whole thing was pulled -- *Harper couldn't stand his lack of power... they've gained seats, but not enough so far. I still am livid how apathetic my fellow Canadians are.

* even though the government was "dysfunctional"... it had checks and balances.

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as of 8:53pm MT, PC minority gov't called (a bit stronger than what Stephen "George W" Harper had)

~ 37% of the electoral vote for PCs, sigh... you see that and media propaganda "Canadians have re-elected Stephen Harper's Conservatives" ... ya a MINORITY of Canadians want Harper and his cronies. Sorry... this stuff gets to me.


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Last edited by John aka#404; 10-15-2008 at 03:06 AM. Reason: adding stats as I find them
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:39 AM   #6
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you need 155 seats... the problem being that Canada does not have equal representation by population. Instead its done by seats... so even if a conservative has 21% of the local vote, and its the highest amount... they win. Thankfully it looks like they will have a minority government.

It chokes me a bit because the vast majority of Canadians are voting in favor of the left wing, but the right wing will have control. Pretty soon Canada will have a two party system just like the states if this keeps up.
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:50 AM   #7
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155 for a majority.. on the bright side if the ndp take bc it will be the best weve ever done!
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:57 AM   #8
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it's not the lead... it's the #of seats out of the 308 (need 50%+).

155 seats out of the 308. I am praying for a minority here. That is why this whole thing was pulled -- *Harper couldn't stand his lack of power... they've gained seats, but not enough so far. I still am livid how apathetic my fellow Canadians are.

* even though the government was "dysfunctional"... it had checks and balances.

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I agree... I saw larger numbers in the news paper polls for the left side than what I am seeing now. Maybe if it was rep by pop more people would vote...?
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:57 AM   #9
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Party Elected Leading Total
117 28 145 cons
59 17 76 lib
40 10 50 block pq
23 11 34 green
1 1 2 ind
0 0 0
Seats in Parliament: 308

go to: http://www.ctv.ca/mini/election2008/...onResults.html
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:05 AM   #10
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Thankfully the Conservatives did not reach 155!! this is the second time they have scared me with trying to obtain a majority.

So many adds on the television's were just praising Harper and i cant count how many children he has been holding (kind of a low blow) but its all tactics for his campaign anyways.

Argh!! I never liked this called election thank GOD it never made it. Now we need to spot the bickering and get to work on helping our brothers in America.

This deserves a glass of whine, i shall go grab some.

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Old 10-15-2008, 03:07 AM   #11
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i will join you! bottoms up
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:12 AM   #12
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Now we need to spot the bickering and get to work on helping our brothers in America.

Agreed John. Let's use this place to keep each other informed on the next steps.

-the other John aka#404

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Old 10-15-2008, 04:58 AM   #13
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Good news I'm glad Mr.George W Harper never got his majority.
Wine is a great idea for celebration friend!

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Old 10-16-2008, 08:18 AM   #14
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HAIL HARPER
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Old 10-16-2008, 08:55 AM   #15
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harper for president
he said it two years ago and he said it again wednesday night, albeit at the last second while backing away from the microphone.
'god bless canada'
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Old 10-16-2008, 11:47 PM   #16
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Agreed JohnWdoe.
And, Seems to me the only value to be shown towards Canadians through the Federal electorate is through a Minority Government. Though the Libs have usually concurred with Conservatives prior to this election, I think changes are about to come at the top for it and their poor performance this election.

Harper -- well?, he's in for awhile longer. Perhap's just awhile -- time will tell.
Dunno, Bo Rae did a bunch of good things as Premier of Ontario a bunch of years ago. He certainly cares about Canadians, but the financial costs are compelling.

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Old 10-16-2008, 11:55 PM   #17
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lowest voter turnout ever. and parliament is more disproportionately skewed than it was already. talk to your mps about electoral reform!
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:19 AM   #18
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Its so cool that you all get to vote over which party is going to be inserting their metaphorical c**k up ur asses,
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Old 10-17-2008, 02:41 AM   #19
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a low turnout of voters to elect another minority government and waste a whole bunch of time and money. duh. I loved the expression I heard on CBC yesterday: voter fatigue....yawn. I spent a good part of yesterday feeling bummed about how much work we have ahead of us to try and wake people up. Maybe George W Harper will help speed things along. And MAYBE it gives us an opportunity to find a vibrant new LIberal leader before we get called back to the polls. I must say, I was worried that his pal George might have taught our PM how to cheat.
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Old 10-17-2008, 05:10 AM   #20
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Its so cool that you all get to vote over which party is going to be inserting their metaphorical c**k up ur asses,


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What a total waste that (election) was. Dion's basically toast, Harper will continue on as usual, Layton will no doubt keep his backbone but have no choice but to throw his hands up in the air because all his opposition will do naught - the Liberals will keep propping up the minority gov't.

All I can say is that I'm happy C-51/C-52 (I assume C-52!) got scrapped and will have to be reintroduced right from the start. I hope they drag their feet because I'm tired of trying to get bills defeated atm...

If only Americans could do their campaigning and elections in 6 weeks flat. Can we say American campaigning fatigue?
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Old 10-17-2008, 05:28 AM   #21
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Someone should remind Harper that "Amateur Hour" is nearly over.

He should enjoy his power while it lasts because it won't last
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Old 10-17-2008, 05:42 AM   #22
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50%+

it's the #of seats out of the 308

155 seats out of the 308. I am praying for a minority here. That is why this whole thing was pulled -- *Harper couldn't stand his lack of power... they've gained seats, but not enough so far. I still am livid how apathetic my fellow Canadians are.

* even though the government was "dysfunctional"... it had checks and balances.

[EDIT]
as of 8:53pm MT, PC minority gov't called (a bit stronger than what Stephen "George W" Harper had)

~ 37% of the electoral vote for PCs, sigh... you see that and media propaganda "Canadians have re-elected Stephen Harper's Conservatives" ... ya a MINORITY of Canadians want Harper and his cronies. Sorry... this stuff gets to me.


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Hi John,

I am very disappointed too about this election...I'm especially disappointed in British Columbians...so much so that I feel like moving out of British Columbia and going back to the Yukon.
It was a bad time to hold an election right after Thanksgiving Day...note the voter turnout was very low almost the worst for any election.
In my riding they even put a candidate (NDP) on the ballot that had already dropped out of the race!! Think of the discarded ballots there that could have gone to the Greens or Liberals!
I truly feel disgusted by it all!
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Old 10-17-2008, 08:24 AM   #23
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I may be wrong with my sources here but i think only one in four eligible voters turned up to vote.
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58.6%?
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Old 10-17-2008, 08:30 PM   #25
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I may be wrong with my sources here but i think only one in four eligible voters turned up to vote.
not to mention some CAnadians are not even registered with Election !
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