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Old 03-03-2010, 04:51 PM   #51
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...In this case, if this comes true and I unfortunately see this comming, this forum(s) will only remain as a stage for a group of some likeminded people, whose perceptions of 'the reality' match together and all other 'disinfo' and 'otherminded' people will be excluded by 'law' (guidelines).

BRAVO! or better said...AVE CAESAR.
Well, my opinion is that it does not mean tyranny, it means balance. A free for all philosophy forum is certainly not the initial purpose for Avalon, which was base on the 'groundcrew' organization from the 'handbooks of the New Paradigm' series.

My opinion is that we should be able to say our opinion without being treated with condescension. I never attacked anyone personally, but always referes to the thuban material and philosophy. On the other hand, I was qualified as arrogant, like if I had a greater understanding, a broader incite and superior knowledge, simply because I was saying my opinion about the thuban material.

The very people who claim to defend free speech are the ones making personal attack and making a strom into a glass of water.

If we are not able to say our opinion on this forum without being treated with condescension, then yes it becomes CESAR domain as you put it.

Peace to you too Bigmo, no offense taken, I only question philosophies and ideas, not people.

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Old 03-03-2010, 05:13 PM   #52
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As an average little hobbit,
I find and sense a duality both about the planet and about all lifeforms created upon it.
There is a discernable change taking place, an increase in resonance frequencies, and this is causing all to stress under this alteration.
the net result is an uprising of the emittance from the planet, this is detectable as feminine, and is opposite in spin to the incoming male.
Hopefully this will lead to a period( litterally) where the present out of balance male dominated left brained war crazed time is thrown out.
Then a more balanced time can arise where the males begin to utilise fully their right hand brains, most are presently locked into the left hand brain which is easily corrupted and controlled.

The problems are clear that all are facing, the present needs tearing apart to allow a new golden age to start.
This forum needs to fully demonstrate that balance, not to be dragged into more control and left brained elitist thinking.
When the hobbits appear out of a hole in the ground, prepare for change, the dragon that is corperate greed needs locking back in its cage.
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:21 PM   #53
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By the way Steven, where is.... Temiscouata?

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Old 03-03-2010, 06:09 PM   #54
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Well, my opinion is that it does not mean tyranny, it means balance. A free for all philosophy forum is certainly not the initial purpose for Avalon, which was base on the 'groundcrew' organization from the 'handbooks of the New Paradigm' series.

My opinion is that we should be able to say our opinion without being treated with condescension. I never attacked anyone personally, but always referes to the thuban material and philosophy. On the other hand, I was qualified as arrogant, like if I had a greater understanding, a broader incite and superior knowledge, simply because I was saying my opinion about the thuban material.

The very people who claim to defend free speech are the ones making personal attack and making a strom into a glass of water.

If we are not able to say our opinion on this forum without being treated with condescension, then yes it becomes CESAR domain as you put it.

Peace to you too Bigmo, no offense taken, I only question philosophies and ideas, not people.

Namaste, Steven
Steven, this forum is perfectly ballanced .. NOW, at this very moment. Ballancing 'both sides' of the libra is the mastery...but ballancing only one side...not really.

Each one of us contributes here with his own gained spiritual and other knowledge, and we seem to have forgoten that to share our knowledge (say opinion as well) and our love is the noblest thing we could do. So yes, I agree with you when you say: My opinion is that we should be able to say our opinion without being treated with condescension.

Despite the fact that this forum was 'planned' on the base on the 'groundcrew' organization from the 'handbooks of the New Paradigm' series, this forum has actually became one of the best places you could find on internet, with so many different and interresting topics.

There are so many different souls here...highly spiritualy advanced people, healers, light and energy holders....aaahhhh, really, we're so different...and so alike in our hearts....and there are also so many here who are still say 'earthly bounded' people (please don't feel offended here avalonians, I was 'earthly bounded' myself for more then 30 years of my life) who came here to find themself first, before they can continue to find the 'truth' (each one with his own perception).

To improve this forum...YES...but not to start new! Starting new will only divide the people here who will 'take a side'...with Bill/with Kerry.

These woderfull ballanced energies here will be divided...and this place will only become a shadow of the once BIG and STRONG AVALON comunity.

It's not our decision...but we can do one thing...forgive ourselves, forgive 'the other' despite all differences...and move on. No matter in which direction.

We're not finished here on this planet. NONE OF US.

with much respect
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:11 PM   #55
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By the way Steven, where is.... Temiscouata?

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It's a region at the begining of the Appalache. Between Riviere-du-Loup (Quebec) and Edmunston (New Brunswich). Do you want to come?

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Old 03-03-2010, 06:13 PM   #56
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Chosen, I both agree and disagree with your statement, "What this place desperately needs is a wind of fresh energy, clarifying energy sweaping the satturated growing bureacracy of too many moderators, too many rules, too much political correctness and too much following of principles. The very principles which were supposed to be only a beacon of light, have enslaved both Bill & Kerry into following them blindly at all costs (at the cost of shutting down the forum over a so called 'freedom of speech') and those that have picked sides..

A wind of dark energy is needed, filled with common sense, freed of enslaving principles and guided by only one law .. do as you will.. If this website manages to get to the next point and establishes the most needed balance between light and darkness.. great things await."


Yes, it would be nice to have a wind of fresh energy. However, I do not agree that there are too many moderators. Having been a moderator on this form I know it requires someone to be available 24/7. The moderators are from all over the globe so as to help cover the different time zones. And having been the only moderator on ~ when we sometimes had 700 posters logged in on the site ~ and trying to stay awake until another mod logged on from England or Australia was often a huge personal sacrifice and challenge for me. Especially given that my bedtime was 3 hours earlier before another mod was able to relieve me. You have no idea of what responsibility that was given also that there are those who would love to take down the site and did attack it from time to time or deal with the Russian porn posters.

Next, unfortunately the forum's founders tend to take their battles into the public arena. Kerry in particular, which is why so many of the mods and administrators quit last year as she was also sending them personal emails and attempting to involve them in her dispute with Bill back at the end of 2008. We all felt what was going on was between her and Bill and would have just as soon been left out the fracas. This past and current behavior clearly demonstrates Kerry's clear lack of personal boundaries when it came to her disagreements with Bill that eventually drag others into something that should have remained a private affair. Since they now have a public arena to work out their differences (the forum, at conferences, on the radio, on youtube, in personal blogs) those who are following their personal drama tend to get polarized. In my personal opinion we do not have all the facts for such behavior and it is best that we don't as again this is not our business.

The bottom line is that Bill and Kerry are in a state of evolution on both a personal level, as a couple, and as business partners. I say couple because there is that level of interaction that exists when people work together, eat together, share a room together and travel together. From a clearly observational point of view I see them as a dynamic team in many ways professionally where they complement each other. However, on a personal level the relationship is toxic. Glynis McCant, the number's lady describes how some couples have toxic numbers and subsequently those relationships don't work out. It is not a fit and no one is to blame.

The wind of dark energy that has been at work here originated with the founders and one particular witness which subsequently created a state of disillusionment for those closest to the core situation. It is unfortunate that the forum has been dragged into the middle of these various disputes, yet the forum still exists and is even stronger as a result. What makes the forum strong are the members, not the founders and not the witnesses. Strength comes from the personal commitment of the members for truth and integrity irrespective of how unpleasant the truth can be at times.

And let us always remember that great things have been happening all along. Great things will continue to happen as long as members choose to participate and share the wealth of their knowledge. Light and dark balance out by the dance and interplay that takes place between the two and this is something we are all witness to on a daily basis.

And let us also remember that Kerry and Bill are just two human beings like the rest of us ~ no better, no worse ~ just two people on an evolutionary path toward enlightenment.

And finally, the thought of "do as you will" does not resonate with me at all, unless the words spiritual integrity and commitment to truth are added. The key rule on this forum is one of mutual respect. Members are expected to follow the golden rule, "Do unto others as you would have done to you." I find this is one of the few forums where this is the predominate rule that members are expected to abide by. That in and of itself elevates this forum in terms of consciousness. It also allows for differences of opinions, different viewpoints, disagreements and much personal growth.

As for now, I hope we can all step back and allow Bill and Kerry to work out their differences. The best that we can do is wish them the best and move on from the drama. Let's let them work their situation out without adding further input or taking sides.
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:18 PM   #57
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Steven, this forum is perfectly ballanced .. NOW, at this very moment. Ballancing 'both sides' of the libra is the mastery...but ballancing only one side...not really.

Each one of us contributes here with his own gained spiritual and other knowledge, and we seem to have forgoten that to share our knowledge (say opinion as well) and our love is the noblest thing we could do. So yes, I agree with you when you say: My opinion is that we should be able to say our opinion without being treated with condescension.

Despite the fact that this forum was 'planned' on the base on the 'groundcrew' organization from the 'handbooks of the New Paradigm' series, this forum has actually became one of the best places you could find on internet, with so many different and interresting topics.

There are so many different souls here...highly spiritualy advanced people, healers, light and energy holders....aaahhhh, really, we're so different...and so alike in our hearts....and there are also so many here who are still say 'earthly bounded' people (please don't feel offended here avalonians, I was 'earthly bounded' myself for more then 30 years of my life) who came here to find themself first, before they can continue to find the 'truth' (each one with his own perception).

To improve this forum...YES...but not to start new! Starting new will only divide the people here who will 'take a side'...with Bill/with Kerry.

These woderfull ballanced energies here will be divided...and this place will only become a shadow of the once BIG and STRONG AVALON comunity.

It's not our decision...but we can do one thing...forgive ourselves, forgive 'the other' despite all differences...and move on. No matter in which direction.

We're not finished here on this planet. NONE OF US.

with much respect
malletzky
I totally agree with you. And we should be mature enough to express our disagreement with respect and always have a place to other opinions.

I see the line of confusion between person and ideas are often crossed. That is the reason for us to be aware of it. After all, we are different and that is what makes humanity so special. At the same time, we share an inner common link with Creation, that is what makes us all connected.

I think there are a lot of exageration driven by emotion. We only react to what is happening at a greater scale at this moment.

Namaste, Steven

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Old 03-04-2010, 02:18 AM   #58
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Humble Janitor? Thanks for reading that for me. I'm not sure intergalatic people or aliens are speaking from Sirious here yet. I'm not sure they're not either. Odd's say maybe. That's why I'm Catholic,Bhuddist , and Muslim...
I say thank you to all of them at night. Can't be too sure who's watching over there>>>> or from out there<<<<... I'm cautious. I love everybody.
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:06 AM   #59
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Extraterrestrial beings/energies following this forum.. now thats a thought I didn't want to share before someone else did
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