Go Back   Old Project Avalon Forum (ARCHIVE) > Project Avalon Forum > Project Avalon > Health / Alternative Medicine

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-26-2009, 01:03 AM   #1
NorthernSanctuary
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Montreal, Canada
Posts: 698
Default Codex Alimentarius

## CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - A PRIMER and A REMINDER FOR ALL ##
Quote
This is very scary and will be passed into law by end of this year if nothing is done.

Codex Alimentarius, which is a "food standards guideline" developed for all countries in the WTO and developed by a commission created in 1963 by Food and Agriculture Organization (of the United Nations) and the World Health Organization.

Special Note: US compliance with CODEX guidelines is mandatory as written in CAFTA and as dictated by being a WTO member (or we face heavy international trade sanctions).

The two most important aspects of this is that CODEX is about trade and money, not safety, and that CODEX will govern ALL foods and medicines, not just
vitamins. For example, per Rima Laibow, MD from www.healthfreedomusa.org , who is deeply involved in preventing CODEX from becoming our "law":

1. Codex Alimentarius requires that all meats, poultry, fish, fruit and vegetables must be irradiated by Dec. 31, 2009.

2. Codex Alimentarius requires that all dairy cattle are to be given Monsanto bovine growth hormone by Dec. 31, 2009.

3. Codex Alimentarius reclassifies vitamin and mineral supplements as toxins and dramatically limits their dosage and availability.

4. Many nations have already harmonized their laws with Codex Alimentarius making it their de facto law. This has already been approved by the European Union, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and others.

5. Codex Alimentarius allows significant trade sanctions to be levied against noncompliant nations.

6. In 2005 there were five bills submitted to congress to weaken or eliminate DSHEA.

Quite shockingly, the CODEX committee has stated that nutrients are toxins an must be assessed for risk. This is the philosophy (because it certainly is not
based on science) that the Vitamin and Nutrient portion of CODEX is based upon.

Also, CODEX is based on Napoleonic law whereby anything that is not permitted is forbidden. Rather than common law, as in the US, whereby anything that is not
forbidden is permitted. Currently, there are only 26 vitamins and supplements listed as permitted in Codex. As an example, fish oil and CoQ10 are not permitted.

The EU has already started implementing some of these "guidelines" as you will see in the video. As stated above, maximum dosages will be dictated. People in France are getting arrested for selling bottles of 500mg Vit C because the doseage exceeds that of CODEX guidelines (this occured in France, if memory serves). Under EU law, which aligns itself to CODEX, only 65mg of Vitamin C per day is considered a "safe" dose.

I BEG everyone to watch the videos linked below and spread the word. It is happening now, and we must become informed and act.

[Just as occurred with DSHEA, we all must unite and make our voices heard. We must demand our health freedoms. If we don't, we deserve the outcome.


1. This issue is much greater than the FDA. CODEX regulations are global (WTO trade) and the demolition of our rights under the banner of "trade" is in full progress.

2. It will fall on us to protect our health freedoms and access to vitamins, supplement, herbs. Full stop.

I implore everyone to take time to watch the following videos to be brought up to speed on the issue of CODEX. This information is critical.

This video gives a clear explanation:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...84912495233634
NorthernSanctuary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2009, 11:58 AM   #2
Delphi
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Scotland
Posts: 126
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

In the light of Codex, I had a very quick read through HR825 on food safety in USA. I find legalese a very difficult language but if/when HR825 is implemented, it does seem that it could be used to stop the sale of organically produce foods. I'd appreciated the comments of people better at interpreting the language of legislation.

love to all
Delphi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2009, 08:37 PM   #3
Machinamentum
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 413
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

I've been talking with my local health food stores and their worried.

Codex is bad.

very bad.. But!

There is the Natural Solutions Foundation!!!

With the awesome Dr. Rim who is fighting codex hard. Please Help!!

Nutricide - Criminalizing Natural Health, Vitamins, and Herbs

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/
Machinamentum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2009, 12:33 AM   #4
Connecting with Sauce
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Chelmsford, Essex
Posts: 650
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

There seems to be some mis information with regards CODEX and I was sent his earlier today:

Correcting Codex misinformation: http://www.anhcampaign.org/news/code...blic-confusion


You can read the whole eBlast that went out here: http://www.anhcampaign.org/node/2613


You can also read all about Codex in the knowledge that the information is accurate and reliable here: http://www.anhcampaign.org/campaigns/codex

This website when I looked into it seemed to have the most level headed argments...

Worth getting boths sides posted here...
Connecting with Sauce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2009, 02:30 AM   #5
NorthernSanctuary
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Montreal, Canada
Posts: 698
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Uk citizens....We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to oppose the adoption of the Codex Alimentarius (No 10 PETITION)
Quote


I'm sure most of you have heard that we only have until December before Codex Alimentarius becomes a reality.

This post is for UK citizens.

Please sign the petition in the link below.

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Vitamins/
NorthernSanctuary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2009, 08:48 AM   #6
Swanny
I dont need a label !
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The Shire of Wilt
Posts: 2,889
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Signed

Fat lot of good it will do though :/
Swanny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2009, 11:09 AM   #7
nagual
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Europe
Posts: 206
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Max Igan American Voice Radio 03/19/09 on Codex Alimentarius



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEQIFdfPgfs



Last edited by nagual; 03-22-2009 at 11:14 AM.
nagual is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2009, 01:10 PM   #8
Connecting with Sauce
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Chelmsford, Essex
Posts: 650
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

This recording of a live presentations covers a lot on this topic...

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...an+codex&hl=en

Ian R Crane 1:30 hours of superb information including Codex and it's politics.

Touches on the lady linked earlier in this thread.

Enjoy...
Connecting with Sauce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2009, 12:59 AM   #9
EpiphaMe
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Nagual, thanks for the post.

Monsanto is behind the Codex... among other things.

please, everyone, buy or get from your local library, and read:
Minerals for the Genetic Code
Money talks, how you spend yours.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2010, 11:46 PM   #10
Seashore
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,564
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernSanctuary View Post
I'm sure most of you have heard that we only have until December before Codex Alimentarius becomes a reality.
I had heard about this date so I have been looking for information about whether or not this took place.

I found a press release by checking the Red Ice Creations website. Red Ice Creations interviewed Scott Tips of the National Health Federation on November 13, 2009.

The National Health Federation website has a press release dated January 4, 2010 that claims we were all "suckered" into believing this December 31, 2009 effective date!

Read the Press Release
Seashore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2010, 12:21 AM   #11
TruthWillSetUFree
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 673
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Great find Seashore!

I had heard Gen. Stubblebine and his wife Rima Laibow were both disinfo agents.

I am starting to think this entire conspiracy thing is purposely being played on us to create more confusion and to line people's pockets.

Now that Jesse Ventura is being allowed to do his Conspiracy Show, with Alex Jones a frequent guest, as well as Rima Laibow, it makes me wonder what this new game of theirs is. I don't quite trust it yet.

With this new information regarding Codex surfacing, it really makes me wonder who the real players are and who are the ones making money off of it.
TruthWillSetUFree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2010, 01:34 AM   #12
Seashore
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,564
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Quote:
Originally Posted by TruthWillSetUFree View Post
Great find Seashore!
Thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by TruthWillSetUFree View Post
I had heard Gen. Stubblebine and his wife Rima Laibow were both disinfo agents.
I believe this to be the case.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TruthWillSetUFree View Post
Now that Jesse Ventura is being allowed to do his Conspiracy Show, with Alex Jones a frequent guest, as well as Rima Laibow, it makes me wonder what this new game of theirs is.
I have been very puzzled about Alex showcasing Rima Laibow and her husband. I have been assuming that he did not take enough time vetting them - but I don't know. It is disturbing.
Seashore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2010, 02:04 AM   #13
eleni
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 865
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seashore View Post
Thanks



I believe this to be the case.



I have been very puzzled about Alex showcasing Rima Laibow and her husband. I have been assuming that he did not take enough time vetting them - but I don't know. It is disturbing.
Hmm....interesting.....
eleni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2010, 02:46 AM   #14
mntruthseeker
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,482
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

I heard that we have to accept what Jessie is doing because it does get him on other shows, even if its not all we want to hear. Also it will allow him to bring on other guess such as David Icke and others.

I felt that they didnt go far enough but we have to remember that TPTB decides on how far he can go.

We still get the better part oof our news from the TV shows series on the scify channels

<sigh>
mntruthseeker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2010, 03:16 AM   #15
TruthWillSetUFree
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 673
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Quote:
Originally Posted by mntruthseeker View Post
I heard that we have to accept what Jessie is doing because it does get him on other shows, even if its not all we want to hear. Also it will allow him to bring on other guess such as David Icke and others.

I felt that they didnt go far enough but we have to remember that TPTB decides on how far he can go.

We still get the better part oof our news from the TV shows series on the scify channels

<sigh>
I have noticed too that many of the weekly shows, Bones, Fringe and others are talking about conspiracy theories, it is almost like primetime T.V. is making it a buzz word.

Why would they do that? To make these theories seem less important?
TruthWillSetUFree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2010, 07:28 AM   #16
AscendingStarseed
Avalon Senior Member
 
AscendingStarseed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Posts: 355
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Quote:
Originally Posted by TruthWillSetUFree View Post
Great find Seashore!

I had heard Gen. Stubblebine and his wife Rima Laibow were both disinfo agents.
With this new information regarding Codex surfacing, it really makes me wonder who the real players are and who are the ones making money off of it.
Say what, Rima is a disinfo agent? Where did you here that from, who said it and how do you know that wasn't disinfo that's an attempt to discredit her work?


I'd like to look into this further...at this point it seems almost everyone doing any good work in the Truth Movement is accused of being a disinfo agent or is working for the Illuminati. It's hard to know what to believe anymore...gets frustrating.
AscendingStarseed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2010, 11:50 AM   #17
Seashore
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,564
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Quote:
Originally Posted by AscendingStarseed View Post
Say what, Rima is a disinfo agent? Where did you here that from, who said it and how do you know that wasn't disinfo that's an attempt to discredit her work?


I'd like to look into this further...at this point it seems almost everyone doing any good work in the Truth Movement is accused of being a disinfo agent or is working for the Illuminati. It's hard to know what to believe anymore...gets frustrating.
I agree that it is very hard to know what to believe and it's very frustrating. I wish I could have first-hand knowledge of things and would not have to rely on what others say or write!

Dr A True Ott has written an expose entitled "Laibow's Lackeys - The Truth Behind Rima Laibow MD and her Colleagues (Parting the Curtains of the 'Natural Solutions Foundation')." The expose includes the resume of her husband, Gen Stubblebine.

Here is a link to a Word document of the expose:

https://www.clayandiron.com/announce...JAN%202009.doc

Connecting with Sauce's post on the thread "Please Sign Petition to Prevent 3 Billion Dying (Codex Alimentarius)" is what got me started researching Laibow and Stubblebine. Here's the exchange from that thread.
Seashore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2010, 11:56 AM   #18
Seashore
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,564
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Quote:
Originally Posted by Connecting with Sauce View Post
This recording of a live presentations covers a lot on this topic...

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...an+codex&hl=en

Ian R Crane 1:30 hours of superb information including Codex and it's politics.

Touches on the lady linked earlier in this thread.

Enjoy...
A post from the "Please Sign Petition to Prevent 3 Billion Dying (Codex Alimentarious)" thread gives additional info.
Seashore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2010, 02:07 PM   #19
TruthWillSetUFree
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 673
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Thanks for putting that up seashore, yes I believe I heard that Dr Ott did background check on her and found her background to be in many psychological experiments as her husband was one of the ones who invented the idea to Stare at Goats, now a comedy.

He was on Ventura's Conspriacy Theory show too, he kinda made him out to be a bit nutty. He met Laibow in a field, she flew in from Panama on a small plane, where she lives now, she said she won't live in the U.S. anymore because she is afraid for her life.

To be honest there was more but I read it or watched it so long ago I would advise anyone who is interested to follow the link and do your own investigating.

Bottom line is it really is confusing on which person to believe. I just step back and watch the show.

This is why I don't send money or work for a cause. If I cannot discern who I am working for it may be for the wrong side and the wrong cause!

I do feel nothing happens without it being approved by tptb so something is up there sleeve, maybe they want us all so angry we start fighting so they can call martial law, who knows. I don't even try to guess anymore.

One more thing, being that the National Health Federation is the ONLY voice allowed at Codex, and the one who had CORRECT information on the Dec 31 date, what is Laibow doing with all the money? She has made a video I saw with her own camera at the Codex booth but what else? Has she ever disclosed where she is using the money she is getting by saving billions of lives?

Last edited by TruthWillSetUFree; 01-21-2010 at 02:11 PM.
TruthWillSetUFree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2010, 02:14 PM   #20
TruthWillSetUFree
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 673
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

ConnectingwithSauce put up a link from Alliance for Natural Health

In the body of the piece entitled Codex MISinformation it says:

Much of the misinformation appears to stem from the US-based Natural Solutions Foundation (NSF), and in particular, a youtube-released video called Nutricide featuring NSF's medical director, Dr Rima Laibow.

Nuff said
TruthWillSetUFree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2010, 02:20 PM   #21
Seashore
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,564
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Quote:
Originally Posted by TruthWillSetUFree View Post
This is why I don't send money or work for a cause. If I cannot discern who I am working for it may be for the wrong side and the wrong cause!
This really rings a bell with me!

Listening to Alan Watt has made me very aware of "front groups." Evidently lots and lots of non-governmental organizations (NGOs) are nothing but front groups for the Illuminati. They have flowery names and their websites will make them look as if they do wonderful things for humanity but it's all a con.

I've learned that if a "foundation" funds an NGO - watch out.

Also, I've learned that the United Nations/New World Order agenda is largely accomplished by these NGOs.
Seashore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2010, 02:23 PM   #22
TruthWillSetUFree
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 673
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seashore View Post
This really rings a bell with me!

Listening to Alan Watt has made me very aware of "front groups." Evidently lots and lots of non-governmental organizations (NGOs) are nothing but front groups for the Illuminati. They have flowery names and their websites will make them look as if they do wonderful things for humanity but it's all a con.

I've learned that if a "foundation" funds an NGO - watch out.

Also, I've learned that the United Nations/New World Order agenda is largely accomplished by these NGOs.
Wow didn't know that. Do you have any links for Alan Watt where he talks about this? Much appreciated seashore
TruthWillSetUFree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2010, 02:31 PM   #23
Seashore
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,564
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Quote:
Originally Posted by TruthWillSetUFree View Post
Wow didn't know that. Do you have any links for Alan Watt where he talks about this? Much appreciated seashore
Alan Watt has a wonderful website. He offers his audio archives free and the ads have been removed!!!

He offers transcripts of his talks.

I can't recommend him enough!



Here's the link:

http://cuttingthroughthematrix.com/r...ve_on_RBN.html

He talked about this last evening, January 20, 2010.

Last edited by Seashore; 01-21-2010 at 09:28 PM. Reason: Add info
Seashore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2010, 02:39 PM   #24
Seashore
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,564
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Quote:
Originally Posted by TruthWillSetUFree View Post
Alan Watt ... talks about this
From the thread "Front Groups"...

Alan Watt on Front Groups
Seashore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2010, 02:53 PM   #25
TruthWillSetUFree
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 673
Default Re: Codex Alimentarius

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seashore View Post
Alan Watt has a wonderful website. He offers his audio archives free and the ads have been removed!!!

He offers transcripts of his talks.

I can't recommend him enough!



Here's the link:

http://cuttingthroughthematrix.com/r...ve_on_RBN.html
Thanks for both links seashore

Listening to David Icke "Revelations of a Mother Goddess" but will get to it next.

Thanks again
TruthWillSetUFree is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Project Avalon