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Old 10-15-2008, 09:41 PM   #1
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Default Alex Jones interviews Peter Joesph - Zeitgeist

Have a listen when you get a moment

[url]http://www.infowars.com/

You can find it on the right side of page

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Old 10-15-2008, 10:34 PM   #2
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alex jones has just proved to everyone how dumb he is. He just doesn't understand what peter joseph is talking about.
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:16 PM   #3
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wow, the level of disrespect is really something. What a contrast between how Jones treats Peter Joseph vs Michael Tsarion.
Interesting. PJ has solutions ,whether you agree with them or not, and MTsar does not really advocate outer solutions ( and also has a horrible temper) though I find some of his work quite brilliant. Just my opinion, and seen em both up close so to speak.

Wow, Alex is afraid of intellectuals! also sad and spooky music! LOL . What a nutter...

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Old 10-15-2008, 11:31 PM   #4
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Alex cant grasp the theory Joseph is putting and man he acts like a child, projecting and then attacking. Really wierd because Alex can talk about Infowars back and forth. Joseph is ahead of his time. Unfortunately we still have alot of steps to go.
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Old 10-16-2008, 12:01 AM   #5
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i really despise alex after this interview, that's the last time i ever listen to that show.
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Old 10-16-2008, 12:16 AM   #6
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I think Alex should stick to what he does best, I give you Officer Jackboot Jones: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AxJ6ZNswiBw
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Old 10-16-2008, 12:44 AM   #7
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it's because alex is meant (either paid, puppeted, or possesed) to be a provacateur for revolution not a real advocate for true progress. remember illuminati like to control both sides so they can control outcome.
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Old 10-16-2008, 01:12 AM   #8
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ya something is weird with him tyring to express his emotions. Like its some trained programmed thing to connect viscerally with certain type of people. Maybe to people who wil get amplified and do something stupid. I dont doubt alot of these truth people are corrupted. Either they were in with the Illuminati and could not deal anymore (save their soul maybe) and now they are allowed to talk about it to a limit. Or there here to make sure they have some influence in this scene. So much material its hard to decifer what is real and what is not.
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Old 10-16-2008, 01:51 AM   #9
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(using this thread as a zeitgeist/alex jones debate, thanks sylph16 for find)

i was disappointed too with alex's first zeitgeist critique and with his not so subtle jabs in his recent interview, but at least he apologized for his initial reaction, jabbed himself a bit and allowed zeitgeist to promote their views.

leaving religion out of the mix, alex and zeitgeist have the same essential conclusion, current human conditions suck. but they differ in their premise or why conditions suck. alex (incorrectly) uses a subjective line of reasoning that suckyness is derived from evil individuals that corrupt an otherwise healthy (free market) system. zeitgeist (correctly) uses an objective line of reasoning and concludes suckyness is derived as a natural product of a monetary based system, where resources inherently monopolize and corrupt the individuals controlling those resources. the suckyness can and has emerged from both capitalist and socialist systems.

the zeitgeist position is NOT communistic, socialist, or utopian. some might call it anarchical, im not yet sure. it cannot be communist/socialist because it does not propose a figurehead. it is not utopian because it does not propose an end. the position is a means that directs us out of CONTROL, which makes the zeitgeist proposition a "ground crew" or "avalon" proposition.

to analyze and contribute to the zeitgeist proposition might be a productive/constructive ground crew task.
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Old 10-16-2008, 02:05 AM   #10
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My goal is to have tolerance for all ideas and opinions.
I think Alex needs to meditate.
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Old 10-16-2008, 02:13 AM   #11
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i must admit that as a long time listener of alex i was taken back by the peter interview. peter's vision seemed to point towards a possibly viable solution to humanities troubles while alex seemed to be trying to 'correct' the current situation which i feel is not correctable without a huge paradigm shift in thought. honest, as a long time advocate for jones i felt ashamed for him listening to his ranting and raving. i am starting to think my fiance is correct, alex is just another paid puppet.

peter owned him in that talk.

sorry alex, you bleed pretty bad in that volley
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Old 10-16-2008, 03:29 AM   #12
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Default Alex Jones interviews Zeitgeist's Peter Joseph - Ugly

Hey all,

I'm sure many of you have seen this already, or subscribe to Alex Jones' channel, but I've just watched part 1 of this interview with the dude who made Zeitgeist. It's an ugly interview, in which Alex is being an immature petty pathetic fool.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=y83cEzFWa_8

I know that some people have criticised his films, especially Addendum, while others have loved it. If Alex had any credible criticism, he'd have used it. It's things like this that make me wonder about that man, his info and his role.

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Old 10-16-2008, 04:11 AM   #13
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Oh Alex, you have just shown me how immature you really are. Everything Peter Joseph said resonated with me and the way Alex replied was very dissmisif . I now know how closed off Mr Jones really is.

I will pray for him , to open up and see the real truth and not the tunnel vision he is seeing through now.

LOVE AND COSMIC CHRIST LIGHT TO ALL.
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Old 10-16-2008, 04:13 AM   #14
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I think I'll think twice before I listen to Alex Jones again.
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Old 10-16-2008, 04:23 AM   #15
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hi all. i am a true supporter of the zeitgeist movement. but lets not dismiss alex and his extraordinary body of work, which has encouraged and inspired most of us. alex is making mistakes in critical thinking/argumentation, but he is not the enemy. lets be critical of his analysis, not his person.
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Old 10-16-2008, 04:34 AM   #16
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It's really funny that the one's with the biggest mouths have the hardest time listening. i know nothing about Alex Jones. But why is he being so defensive? And critical?
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Old 10-16-2008, 04:51 AM   #17
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Alex Jones is just pointing out the fact that in Addendum, they are talking about destroying everything we know for this "new world." He is simply comparing how moving towards that kind of existence is in ways, like the New World Order.

There are many similiarties.

Alex Jones woke me up years ago, he's a true patriot, not just for his country, but for the human race. He's been into this stuff for so long it just makes him mad, I don't blame him.
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Old 10-16-2008, 04:57 AM   #18
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alex is defending his beliefs about free market capitalism, and failing to recognize its inherent weaknesses. (1.) the inevitable consolidation of wealth and the corruption inherent to that consolidation. (2.) the inability of capitalism/competition to merge with advanced technology. capitalism cannot coexist with technologies that produce sustainability/longevity. sustainability is the antithesis of competition.
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:12 AM   #19
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Just listening to the second part now. Don't know if I will listen to the rest. Alex Jones has grown into this egoistic idiot that can no longer represent my questions or ideas in interviews. He is not capable. he did the same thing with David Icke. It was interesting to listen to the discusion about the difference between animals and the beauty of humans and their ability to create and reason. This was a clear of example of the two. This was more about his undeveloped personality and very little to do with enlightening others. Peter Joseph was very clear and focused on his message of elevation. AJ was still in the cave with the club. You can hear it in his voice. My heart went out to Peter who said more of what I wanted to hear.
A J fears/hates interlectuals and deeply desires to be one. Oh boy!! I am still listening and the guy is a complete f******** idiot
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:18 AM   #20
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hi all. i am a true supporter of the zeitgeist movement. but lets not dismiss alex and his extraordinary body of work, which has encouraged and inspired most of us. alex is making mistakes in critical thinking/argumentation, but he is not the enemy. lets be critical of his analysis, not his person.
Might be an idea to listen again.

He may have done allot in the past but he is treading a different path now. The personality has taken over from the guy that led so many to realise the lies out there.
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:21 AM   #21
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Alex, all you did was to prove that you are a child with the inability to interview someone with a different point of view. Your behavior was a amazing to me, I personally thought you were above making smart ass comments and sounds after every response he gives. I am honestly embarrassed to tell anyone I listen to you after that interview.
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:21 AM   #22
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In fact the Dr. Deagle destroys pheter joseph in his show today. haha, exelent program. hahaha.

The basics of his arguments are that joseph believes that we are flesh machines instead creators sons of G O D and develop his argument starting there.

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Old 10-16-2008, 05:26 AM   #23
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Looks like Alex used sensationalism to market himself and hence improve his income... After Peter's responses, I respect Peter even more. Cheers.
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:49 AM   #24
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In fact the Dr. Deagle destroys pheter joseph in his show today. haha, exelent program. hahaha.

The basics of his arguments are that joseph believes that we are flesh machines instead creators sons of G O D and develop his argument starting there.

Cheers!
doesn't seem to be sound reasoning to me. i believe that we are creator sons of god, and i could easily develop and support the zeitgeist argument. i would be interested to hear dr deagles argument. do you have a link?
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:50 AM   #25
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Yeah, it wasn't that ugly. I guess Alex Jones is just a person who's really outspoken and loud. He did get a little irritating at times, but i listened to the whole broadcast, and they had a nice healthy discussion. And they agree on a lot of things. Peter Joseph is one of the most intelligent and bold persons I've ever heard speak.
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