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Old 07-05-2009, 03:34 AM   #26
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I live in Quebec. Here is a page from the government of Canada about geomagnetic storms and the threat to infrastructures:
http://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/prg/em...2-001-eng.aspx

Geomagnetic Storms - Reducing the Threat to Critical Infrastructure in Canada
Threat Analysis Number: TA02-001
Date: 25 April 2002
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Preventative measures have been implemented to avoid events such as the 1989 Quebec blackout. System operators in Canada have developed and implemented procedures to respond to these emergencies, thereby reducing potential damage due to GICs. Since 1989, Hydro-Quebec has spent more than $1.2 billion installing transmission line series capacitors. These capacitors block GIC flow in order to prevent them from causing damage to the system. Hydro-Quebec has also installed monitoring equipment that spots voltage fluctuations and immediately notifies operators so that they may redistribute the load to other parts of the network. Additional protective measures include disconnecting the links between power grids, desensitizing automatic control systems, delaying power station maintenance and delaying the replacement of equipment. Utilities are also relying on space weather forecasting to help remain operational during geomagnetic storms. Operators can implement conservative operating procedures once they have received an advance warning of a storm threat.

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References

* Appell, D. (1999). CMEs-If the Sun Spits, The Earth Could Fry. Retrieved February 19, 2002, from: www.rense.com/earthchanges/sunspit.htm
What I would like to point out is that the threat from solar storms has been dealt with, at least in Quebec. However, I sometimes wonder about the depopulation agenda and each time I find myself thinking that they have to take down the power grids. With the Internet and all the other communication systems, you can't perpetrate a genocide in North America. It wouldn't work. Also, we know that the elite has to tell us in advance about the crimes they plan to commit. So if the grid shuts down tonight and doesn't come back, and if soldiers shows up at my door in a few days telling me to go with them as the electricity won't come back for months because of a solar storm, I won't buy it easily. Add the swine flu shot to the equation and it is just too convenient for the depopulation agenda... Even if there is a blackout from an actual CME...

Here is the news broadcast from March 13th 1989 about the blackout in Quebec (in French):
http://archives.radio-canada.ca/c_est_arrive_le/03/13/

At 2:45 a union guy talks about how "if they want to blame the sun for the blackout, they might as well hire an astrologer to run Hydro-Quebec"
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:17 AM   #27
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It's actually a three phase crop circle, and I posted more pics in the crop circle thread in Avalon.

Phase 1



Phase 2


Phase 3
Amazing pics Dan

The last part of Phase 3 is so intricate it looks like some form of hieroglyphics...

I wonder if anyone can decipher it??!! Anyone?

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Old 07-05-2009, 01:07 PM   #28
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http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?I...ry=Environment


This link tries to decipher the above crop circle.
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:58 PM   #29
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More update from www.spaceweather.com

" SUDDEN SUPER SUNSPOT: Sunspot 1024 is crackling with B- and C-class solar flares. The activity is so intense, astronomers can't seem to take a picture of the sunspot without catching a flare in action. "



Some data anomaly discovered by viking :



This sun spot is getting bigger over time as of now.

Also after the unknown object moved close to sun on July 3rd, the STEREO satellite Behind COR2 videos in July 4th and July 5th are no longer available.

July 3rd, http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/br...03/index.shtml

July 4th, http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/br...04/index.shtml

July 5th, http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/br...05/index.shtml

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Old 07-05-2009, 10:18 PM   #30
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Is it possible to thrwart a CME?

I feel a bit of fear and uncertainty here.
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:32 PM   #31
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Damnit, wasnt expecting armageddon for another year or two.

Ohh well, im almost out of ciggies anyway
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:53 PM   #32
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Is it possible to thrwart a CME?

I feel a bit of fear and uncertainty here.
When the sun is active, a Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) can be launched off the surface of the sun and head toward Earth. This mass of plasma races outward at millions of miles an hour. CMEs aimed toward Earth can impact our atmosphere, with a number of consequences.

CMEs cause aurora, or the southern and northern lights, when they spill their energy into our atmosphere and excite particles in Earth's magnetic field. They can also cause power disruptions and blackouts. Besides causing geomagnetic storms, CMEs can cause radiation storms, which are dangerous for astronauts and damaging to spacecraft. These storms can administer high doses of radiation to astronauts living and working in space and disable communications satellites and other space-borne equipment.

When a CME rushes away from the sun, it plows into the solar wind, a lighter and slower stream of plasma constantly blowing from our nearest star. As the CME smashes into the solar wind, it causes a shock wave. A large enough shock wave will accelerate the electrically charged particles in the solar wind and give birth to the radiation storm.

Because not all CMEs create a shock wave large enough to trigger radiation storms, scientists have been looking for a signal to tell them which ones will or won't. Dr. Natchimuthuk Gopalswamy of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center and his team have identified "screams" in radio waves caused by the CMEs impacting the solar wind. They discovered the storms that screamed, or were "radio loud," produced radiation storms, while CMEs without a radio signal failed to generate that kind of storm.

"We can use a CME's radio noise to give warning that it is generating a radiation storm that will hit us soon," Gopalswamy said. "This will give astronauts and satellite operators anywhere between a few tens of minutes to a couple hours to prepare, depending on how fast the particles are moving."

http://solar-system-astronomy.suite1...s_from_the_sun

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Old 07-05-2009, 11:05 PM   #33
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What could be the consequences of massive solar flares?

Are We Ready for a Solar Katrina?

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Spa...7384952&page=1

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Old 07-06-2009, 12:01 AM   #34
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Damnit, wasnt expecting armageddon for another year or two.

Ohh well, im almost out of ciggies anyway

Sometimes...You have to laugh till you cry...........

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Old 07-06-2009, 12:29 AM   #35
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just got knocked in the head with this one....
I'm just sayin......

The 7 Trumpets of Revelation http://www.bcbsr.com/survey/rev7t.html


The Seven Trumpets
1 Land there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down upon the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up. 8:7
2 Sea something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed. 8:8
3 Rivers &
Springs a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water-- the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter. 8:10
4 Sun a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night. 8:12
5 Abyss

(First Woe)
I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss. When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss. And out of the smoke locusts came down upon the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth. 9:1
6 Great river Euphrates

(Second Woe)
It said to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, "Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates." The four angels who had been kept ready for this very hour and day and month and year were released to kill a third of mankind.
9:13

# Interlude The little scroll - tasted sweet, but turned bitter.
# Measuring the temple
# The two witnesses
(10:8-11)
(11:1-2)
(11:3-14)
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Air

(Third Woe)
there were loud voices in heaven, which said: "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever." 11:15

The Berean Christian Bible Study Resources

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Old 07-06-2009, 12:34 AM   #36
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translated perhaps, trumpet = solar flare ?


another warning of impending doom from yer friendly neighborhood Bible
(Bible = basic instructions before leaving earth)
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:28 AM   #37
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This thread is getting very interesting...

I'm really pleased to see the research that people are doing with this topic...

I am finding it increasingly a facinating read...

Just found this .. The report was commissioned and funded by NASA in January 2009. Experts from around the world in industry, government and academia participated. Were they preparing us for this???

further reading here...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,478024,00.html

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Scientists Analyze Milk Hill 1, 2 and 3

An Australian scientist, who requests anonymity, and Mike Reed, retired physicist and telescope engineer at Arizona State University, puzzled over this one for quite awhile. Then the Australian scientist wrote:

“As shown in the explanatory diagram below, Part I of Milk Hill on June 21, clearly looked like a ‘sextant,’ which has long been used to measure the ‘altitude’ or height above the horizon of various astronomical objects in Earth’s sky.”

“It also showed a second underlying symbolism for Earth and Moon where planet Earth was drawn with a ‘teardrop’ shape, while our Moon was drawn with a standard ‘dumbbell’ shape first noted in the early 1990s. That teardrop shape is the usual scientific symbol for a CME, or coronal mass ejection from our Sun.

The two long measuring arms of that ‘sextant’ are aligned in the field close to due north or due east, which match where our Moon will be located (under the horizon) at times of 1200 or 1700 UT on the upcoming date of July 7, 2009.

At first it might seem bizarre that extraterrestrials could be showing us a sextant in English fields, but on several occasions from 2003 to 2008, the crop formation intelligence has showed us an astrolabe, which is another astronomical measuring device from Earth’s past.”
end of quote...

Apparantly these are 'Mayan numbers and characters'... Anyone to decypher??
http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/new...llPartial8.jpg

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Old 07-06-2009, 08:39 AM   #38
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Jim Sparks was taught various types of alien shorthand. Despite his unwillingness to learn this new shorthand, the aliens insisted on teaching him how to convert 20 pages of English text into two pages of alien shorthand. Jim described the alien shorthand as being a 3-dimensional language where the symbols or letters just hung in the air in front of him. In the sketch below, 20 pages of English text are reduced in each subsequent box.

Jim explained the alien symbols were not a static two-dimensional design, but rather were differentiated by the number of left and right or up and down strokes used to create a symbol. Jim also stated the aliens used a numbering system that ended with the number 6. He recalled having written the number 7 just for fun to annoy the aliens.

http://www.abduct.com/symbols/s20.php

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Old 07-06-2009, 08:45 AM   #39
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edit "Thanks Mudra just realized I wrote this post too soon and missed yours!!! interesting stuff!!"

Mmmm Just read this on Earthfiles .... Apparantly the messages are still guiding us towards 7th onwards?!!

Here...have a good read...very intetresting

http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/new...ield13days.jpg

From Australian scientist on July 1, 2009: “Our sextant-orrery analysis for Parts I and II of Milk Hill still seems perfectly correct, showing sextant-derived altitudes of the various planets for a date of July 6 - 7, 2009.

My best guess would be that July 7th will somehow be significant in our planetary history - twenty crop pictures since April 23 - possibly for revealing the first signs of instability in our Sun, leading up to December of 2012. Yet right now on our Sun, with only six days to go, nothing really spectacular is happening.

Those are alien messages for sure, but what are they trying to tell us? Do they think similarly enough to us, so that we can communicate without errors of interpretation?

I don't know. But it is surely a great scientific problem, and we are right at the cutting edge of it! In other words, the SETI question is over: They are here, and they are talking. What can we do now to understand?”

With graphics...here
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?I...ry=Environment

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Old 07-06-2009, 10:20 AM   #40
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More update from www.spaceweather.com

" SUDDEN SUPER SUNSPOT: Sunspot 1024 is crackling with B- and C-class solar flares. The activity is so intense, astronomers can't seem to take a picture of the sunspot without catching a flare in action. "



Some data anomaly discovered by viking :



This sun spot is getting bigger over time as of now.

Also after the unknown object moved close to sun on July 3rd, the STEREO satellite Behind COR2 videos in July 4th and July 5th are no longer available.

July 3rd, http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/br...03/index.shtml

July 4th, http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/br...04/index.shtml

July 5th, http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/br...05/index.shtml
Thanks again DJ...yes you are right I have just checked and it's gone from A- B/C Solar flares....!

Also check here ....going off the richter scale!!
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/rt_plots/xray_5mBL.html

Keep us posted...

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Old 07-06-2009, 12:37 PM   #41
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Interesting sun photo

Go to 21:18 hours:

http://sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov/cgi-...CO:detector=C3
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Old 07-06-2009, 01:55 PM   #42
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Just found this... This is Vid of a CME heading our way?? taken between 26th-June-5th July!

Look to the left of the Video...

http://smei.nso.edu/skyrecent.mpg

Hope not but if SHTF be prepared...lets hope it's positive!

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Latest pic shows something. If this mercury why is it orbiting back?

Normal pic taken earlier today...




The latest one...




Is this a solar flare?
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:05 PM   #44
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Just found this... This is Vid of a CME heading our way?? taken between 26th-June-5th July!

Look to the left of the Video...

http://smei.nso.edu/skyrecent.mpg

Hope not but if SHTF be prepared...lets hope it's positive!

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Forgot to mention it takes 3-4 days for a CME to reach Earth!!

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Old 07-06-2009, 02:25 PM   #45
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quick question....haven't we been on the receiving end of B/C CMEs before with no serious repurcussions?

I don't know, but think I it's relevent...
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:44 PM   #46
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Hi Thunderbird...

We have had CME's in the past...I believe in 1859 it happened but we were not as clued into electronics!!!

Also I think another in the 90's...canada was mostly affected...the whole grid went down...thay have since spent billions for safeguarding against this sort of thing happening again!!

Scientists have said that if there was a CME one and a half times bigger than the Canadian one it would be a DISASTER!!

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The other possible problem is that our magnetosphere may not be as strong as it has been in the past. This would allow more of the negative effects to damage our electronics. I'm watching the sun info as much as possible. Is there a better site than SOHO to get active movie type playback of the most recent information on sun activity?

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The other possible problem is that our magnetosphere may not be as strong as it has been in the past. This would allow more of the negative effects to damage our electronics. I'm watching the sun info as much as possible. Is there a better site than SOHO to get active movie type playback of the most recent information on sun activity?

Thanks
Try here Serenity ... at the moment it's still working!! Check my last post Here.. http://smei.nso.edu/skyrecent.mpg look at the dates?!!

http://smei.nso.edu/image_info.html

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Old 07-06-2009, 03:50 PM   #49
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So do you need lead to shield from CME's?
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