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Old 03-10-2010, 05:04 AM   #1
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Question Strange things in the rain...

For the past 2-3 weeks, we have been noticing strange, white furry growths appearing in areas around our home where the rainwater has been coming into contact with the pavement and brick.

It's possible that this stuff is already on the ground and grows when it comes into contact with water, but it only seems to appear after the rain. Rinsing down the same areas with city water doesn't produce what you see in these pictures.

What do you think? Fungus? Mold? Chemtrails? All of the above? None of the above?

I welcome your opinions...








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Old 03-10-2010, 05:20 AM   #2
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Do you know any chemists? Needs lab testing to determine exactly what it is and where it's coming from..maybe you can contact the local news stations and one of them might pick up on it and have tests run to see whats going on. The reporters live in your area too, it may be a health concern for everyone involved.

No telling what it is, there are sooo many unnatural substances in the environment and a lot of factors to take into consideration...how long has it been going on, does it happen everytime it rains or on occassion? Do you have a lot of chemtrail activity, are there chemical plants or anything of that nature in the area spewing out containaments into the air?

Pretty strange looking stuff and I would be concerned too...there was a video out showing the film of gunk left behind after chemtrail releases in some areas, it was also making people sick with Morgellans disease...or these little fiber things that get under the skin.
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Old 03-10-2010, 08:09 AM   #3
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Looks like salt or pollen to me.
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Old 03-10-2010, 08:46 AM   #4
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City water has been treated with chemicals to inhibit organic growth. Rain water of course has not been treated. Your photos look like some type of calcium to me, however I don't know what it is. The best thing to do (I think) is to collect a sample and call around or use the Inet to find the best place to bring it.
Some municipality like the Board of Health or Sewage and Water will test it for you, that's what they do. It may be some kind of build up in your rain gutters.
Please let us know what you find out!
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:06 AM   #5
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I woke up one morning a few weeks ago and found these blighters everywhere including on my car. The only info I’ve managed to get on them is that they are synthetic and are some sort of pesticide (according to david icke’s friend who had them analysed) – hhmmmmm!






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Old 03-10-2010, 06:44 PM   #6
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Thanks for all of the replies and suggestions!

I contacted the Phoenix Dept. of Health and was referred to the
Department of Environmental Quality, which referred me to Air Quality.
The rep that I spoke with there indicated that this was not something
they would perform testing on.

I could take a sample to a lab for testing, but we do not have resources
to allocate for that at this time.

I checked with the neighbors, and they appear to have smaller amounts
of the same substance in the areas around their property-particularly the walls.

As our residence has shared walls and common roofs, it is unclear whether
or not this is somethng on the roof or in the paint reacting with the rainwater,
or whether there is actually something in the air that is getting washed
onto everything when it rains
. I am inclined to think it is the latter!

Hoping whatever this stuff is, it is not toxic or pathogenic!
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Old 03-10-2010, 06:57 PM   #7
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I think it's time to call the dept of health and let them know you will be calling your local NEWS station with the Photos and samples. I feel certain that the local NEWS will want cover your story. That stuff may be toxic and I am sure the Health Dept will find the time to investigate. It's a matter of public safety.
Your photos should be more than enough to get some response.
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Old 03-10-2010, 06:57 PM   #8
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What do you think? Fungus? Mold? Chemtrails? All of the above? None of the above?
Chemtrail Particulate. BTW - Check out Snow Mold as well for addtional "Oddness" in Our surroundings...

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Old 03-10-2010, 07:50 PM   #9
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I see this all the time... as a masonry contractor/general contractor..
it is what the trade calls "efflorescence" . it appears often after rains .. it is derived from impurities in concrete, mortar, brick, or any other cementous products .... the impurities are gathered by the water and drawn to the surface by the sun and can literally grow like a crystal formation ... it is usually sodium or alkaline based... it will usually taste like salt.. but you probably don't want to taste it..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efflorescence

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Old 03-10-2010, 07:55 PM   #10
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I see this all the time... as a masonry contractor/general contractor..
it is what the trade calls "efflorescence" . it appears often after rains .. it is derived from impurities in concrete, mortar, brick, or any other cementous products .... the impurities are gathered by the water and drawn to the surface by the sun and can literally grow like a crystal formation ... it is usually sodium or alkaline based... it will usually taste like salt.. but you probably don't want to taste it..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efflorescence

hope this helps
How come my car was also covered in it?!
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Old 03-10-2010, 08:01 PM   #11
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How come my car was also covered in it?!
Don't ask any questions and they won't tell any lies.

That is a good question though. Hmmmm.....
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Old 03-10-2010, 08:25 PM   #12
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Don't ask any questions and they won't tell any lies.

That is a good question though. Hmmmm.....
Didn't realise I had a flintstones' car!!
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Old 03-10-2010, 08:33 PM   #13
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How come my car was also covered in it?!


Awesome - GJ. You keep on thinking Gita. Excellent work...
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:51 PM   #14
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How come my car was also covered in it?!
that's not the same stuff... the crystal type formation and the powdery substance in the original poster's pics are efflorescence ... it comes out of cementous material just like the pics are showing.. note how it emerges from the edges of the wet area and as the water dries the crystals form. It can, and often does, form in areas that have never shown it before after an area has been wet for a long time.. long periods of rain etc..

your pics are much different.. I don't have a clue what that is.. I suppose it could be some kind of chemtrail residue..
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:12 PM   #15
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Didn't realise I had a flintstones' car!!
LOL...on your pics.. some of the growth appears to be liken.. (grows on porous materials in damp shady areas) the stuff in earth tone colors... the white stuff? I don't know.. especially the stuff on the car.. weird
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Old 03-11-2010, 05:27 AM   #16
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Check out Snow Mold as well
Mercuriel,

I don't think this is snow mold. This stuff is appearing on the pavement
and brick, plus we don't get snow in Phoenix!


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It can, and often does, form in areas that have never shown it before after an area has been wet for a long time.. long periods of rain etc..
twoRone,

Thanks for the information.

This might explain why it has not shown up before when it has rained.

We have been getting quite a bit more rain than usual lately.

Chemtrails and their effects are real, but this white stuff may not
be evidence of that, just "efflorescence".

That is a relief!

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Old 03-11-2010, 06:52 AM   #17
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I contacted the Phoenix Dept. of Health and was referred to the
Department of Environmental Quality, which referred me to Air Quality.
The rep that I spoke with there indicated that this was not something
they would perform testing on.
Sadly its the same the world over. Something along the lines: "If we dont look, its not there. If its not there it's clean."
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Old 03-12-2010, 07:36 PM   #18
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Mercuriel,

I don't think this is snow mold. This stuff is appearing on the pavement
and brick, plus we don't get snow in Phoenix!
I wasn't implying that it was "Snow Mold" - Merely that that the Two effects - "Snow Mold" and the Phenomena in the above pictures - Are some of the resultants from the Chemtrail Program.

Above this - I'd said...

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Chemtrail Particulate. BTW - Check out Snow Mold as well for addtional "Oddness" in Our surroundings...
Meaning that I imply that the White Stuff in the Pics above is Chemtrail Particulate and then I further went on to add that You could also check out "Snow Mold" to see "other" Odd happenings in our surroundings - Same Agenda/Program...

Simply put - Its being noted that the White Substance is being found in Wet areas that get Rain in the Winter, and the Snow Mold is being found in Areas that get Snow in the Winter. Hmmm eh ?

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Old 03-12-2010, 07:58 PM   #19
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I see this all the time... as a masonry contractor/general contractor..
it is what the trade calls "efflorescence" . it appears often after rains .. it is derived from impurities in concrete, mortar, brick, or any other cementous products .... the impurities are gathered by the water and drawn to the surface by the sun and can literally grow like a crystal formation ... it is usually sodium or alkaline based... it will usually taste like salt.. but you probably don't want to taste it..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efflorescence

hope this helps

Fiiish: How old is the concrete? It looks like it has not been properly cured.


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Old 03-12-2010, 08:08 PM   #20
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"In all the 30 years we have been rescuing animals," Rebecca Dmytryk with WildRescue says, "we have never seen what we're seeing now. Ever."...


In 2007, after hundreds of marine birds washed up along Monterey in a mysterious event, the Department of Fish and Game determined they had been coated in a substance formed by an underwater algae that normally blooms in warm, nutrient-rich waters. But, it bloomed off-season -- in the winter, while the ocean was churning Dmytryk said. When the waves broke up the blooms, it turned them into a soap-like substance that the coated the pelicans' feathers. They lost their waterproofing, couldn't find food and died.

Last October, Dmytryk and her colleagues went to Oregon to help the Coast Guard retrieve nearly 500 birds that were coated in a similar substance. Despite their hard work, 10,000 marine birds died...

Dmytryk says the same issues that plague the pelicans may be affecting all marine life and speculates the absence of famed sea lions on San Francisco's Pier 39 might also be linked.

NBC San Diego


The image links don't work but I recommend going to that link and clicking on the small sea lion picture...

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Old 03-12-2010, 08:13 PM   #21
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on a walk this morning at the beach I spotted a baby dolphin that had washed ashore...



Something is happening

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Old 03-12-2010, 08:46 PM   #22
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When I sweep before my door today I have the same think on it... and I did not take any attention until I read this post... hmmm... and concrete is 25 years old and I didn't see something like that before... Strange...
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Old 03-13-2010, 03:51 AM   #23
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Simply put - Its being noted that the White Substance is being found in Wet areas that get Rain in the Winter, and the Snow Mold is being found in Areas that get Snow in the Winter. Hmmm eh ?
Mercuriel,

I am with you now.

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Fiiish: How old is the concrete? It looks like it has not been properly cured.
Bashi,

The concrete in the picture with the gutter is over 30 years old.
The concrete in the other pictures is newer, but the stuff is appearing on both.

We also have a plastic planter on the back patio that is empty and has
similar stuff growing on the inside of it. Whether it is the same, I don't know.

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on a walk this morning at the beach I spotted a baby dolphin that had washed ashore...
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Something is happening
Rocky_Shorz,

That is sad to hear about the dolphin. I agree, something IS happening.

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When I sweep before my door today I have the same think on it... and I did not take any attention until I read this post... hmmm... and concrete is 25 years old and I didn't see something like that before... Strange...
top369

Thanks for posting! Can you share any pictures of what you found?

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Old 03-13-2010, 07:55 AM   #24
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Pic of today.... Strange thing is return on my concrete....
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:05 PM   #25
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Top369,

Thanks for posting the pic. That looks quite similar to what we have here.

What I find strange is that this stuff has only appeared in the past 2-3 weeks
even though we have gotten rain before-obviously.

I wonder if it has to do with the amount of rain we have been getting?
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