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Old 01-21-2010, 07:43 PM   #1
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What the U.S. Congress IS doing... Wasting the taxpayers money...




Why aren't the people in Cailifornia, taking her out.....

NO ONE, in California's got the balls... They, just move to Arizona.


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Old 01-21-2010, 08:10 PM   #2
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What the U.S. Congress IS doing... Wasting the taxpayers money...




Why aren't the people in Cailifornia, taking her out.....

NO ONE, in California's got the balls... They, just move to Arizona.


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It's a "Disgrace"? It is more than a disgrace It is the absolute in your face Truth on just how much THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

We seem to be under the illusion that they do care and that they will do something to help the current situation....NEWSFLASH THEY WON'T, NOT NOW, NOT EVER!
So stop living in a fantasy world that these people are one of us, they are in office for the status and the perks, period

They do need to be kicked out as far as we can kick them.

Other than that.....have a nice day
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Old 01-21-2010, 09:07 PM   #3
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Both major parties are bought and paid for.

I don't believe things will change until we get the money out of politics. In my opinion, that means banning political contributions/advertising.
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Old 01-21-2010, 09:51 PM   #4
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Aww Seashore you have a point.
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Old 01-24-2010, 07:22 AM   #5
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I don't believe things will change until we get the money out of politics. In my opinion, that means banning political contributions/advertising.
So, we are obviously going in the wrong direction when the SCOTUS just did this on Thursday...

"Yesterday's radical Supreme Court ruling opens up the flood gates for unlimited corporate spending on campaigns. It says Big Business can spend as much money as it wants to, trying to defeat one candidate or another.
Individual citizens' freedom to effect our democracy, anyone's ability to make a difference, who isn't named Exxon, consider yourself squished under the heel of special interests and the nation's most rich and powerful companies."


Start at the 5:00 mark: SCOTUS decision in Citizens United case
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Old 01-24-2010, 09:14 AM   #6
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What the U.S. Congress IS doing... Wasting the taxpayers money...




Why aren't the people in Cailifornia, taking her out.....

NO ONE, in California's got the balls... They, just move to Arizona.


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There's more to life than bitching about taxes.

When will people realize this?

If you participate on this forum, you should realize this by now.

Tea Party ******** ------------------------------> That way
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Old 01-24-2010, 10:19 AM   #7
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None of this matters. The financial system will collapse and this problem will go away. If you don't believe me, just wait 6-9 months and let's see where we are

It's going to be real funny to watch politicians full of hot air with no monetary control to yield over the plebes.

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Old 01-24-2010, 10:13 PM   #8
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None of this matters. The financial system will collapse and this problem will go away.
Yep.

Will it be gradual or quick? What will be the the first indicator of this heading south quickly?

I try not to be worried. But, I cannot shake this concern of food and water for people and animals. If there was an indicator I could show my family and friends, I will at least have a chance at getting them to stock up on food, water, and heirloom seeds. If my group is taken care of, then we can help the others in our community by sharing food/water and planting gardens.

The actual 'money' part of the economy...I would like to see go away.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:47 PM   #9
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I'm sorry to disagree. I DOES matter. In your scenario,if it happens,she would still be in office shaking her head. That's not good enough. Her and "her kind" are a detriment to my rights as a U.S. citizen.
By definition "her kind" means any public servant that spends that kind of money in current financial conditions at State and Federal level in my country, the United States of America.
I'm not a republican,a democrat,or a teabagger.
I am a concerned citizen though. Regionally, Nationally and Internationally. Who's in charge?
I'm trying to learn.
Should Nancy Pelosi be and "her kind?"
Not if I can help it.
She is the first person that ever made me so mad I want to picket her elected position.
I SAW her last week on TV say.."hehehe We ALL say things on the campain trail to get elected"
She's OUT!
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:52 PM   #10
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None of this matters. The financial system will collapse and this problem will go away. If you don't believe me, just wait 6-9 months and let's see where we are

It's going to be real funny to watch politicians full of hot air with no monetary control to yield over the plebes.

--sjkted
You're saying we're not going to have money?

We will have some sort of means of exchange of goods and services and we will still have politics.

I don't believe the problem is going to go away with the collapse of the present system.
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Old 01-25-2010, 12:03 AM   #11
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For the record...I am not apoligizing for our Governors weak performance here in California.. I WILL support his first and most important mistake he made when he got elected.
He questiond the teachers unions and their benefits. Seriously,You teach 20 years in California,get a couple of extra degree's in nite school,and your union would give you 90percent pension for the rest of your life.
That was a MAJOR mistake in his political career. I personally know Teachers in the San Bernardino School District that went out and worked on destroying him politically. They expected and DEMANDED that payoff..(The pension)
When I grew up and moved to California..It's ALL I heard.. Get a Government Job before your 25 and you get a GREAT pension and start a second career at 45.
When Uncle Arnie suggested it might be too good?
They told him he was finished.
WHO elected Nancy Pelosi? Education System.
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Old 01-25-2010, 01:02 AM   #12
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I did not mean to hijack this thread..And the way I spell,you'd think I was an end result of the California School Sytem.. I kid I kid
I did not mean to insinuate that all teachers in the California Education System Bankrupted California. I DO know teachers that don't care. They want their retirement regardless of the cost. I know people in the Post Office that want their pension,regardless of the cost. They EARNED it. Kinda
I know people that worked at Kaiser Steel in Fontana California their whole lives and found out their pension was worth nothing. And no recourse.
I know a LOT of start up companies that failed..(Guilty)
My Point?
It seems the Private Sector Pays the Bills with Risk attached.
The Government Sector "manages" the risk with no "out of pocket" investment or risk. I don't like it.
AND I don't the like Government attitude.
Only THEIR time to manage MY risk. My dough.
THAT"S WHY the Doctors don't like Medicare and Medicade.
It's NO risk to the PAYED govenment empoyee's.
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Old 01-25-2010, 01:08 AM   #13
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So, we are obviously going in the wrong direction when the SCOTUS just did this on Thursday...

"Yesterday's radical Supreme Court ruling opens up the flood gates for unlimited corporate spending on campaigns. It says Big Business can spend as much money as it wants to, trying to defeat one candidate or another.
Individual citizens' freedom to effect our democracy, anyone's ability to make a difference, who isn't named Exxon, consider yourself squished under the heel of special interests and the nation's most rich and powerful companies."


Start at the 5:00 mark: SCOTUS decision in Citizens United case

Could that be because we are all "PERSONS", which means corporate entities?
I've been spending time over at the "I've got a solution" thread
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Old 01-25-2010, 01:21 AM   #14
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Tango,
I don't know who nancy pelosi is, or what she does, but i think she has a big shout in the USA and is bad news. During the iraq war i was particularly angry every time I seen Condoleeza Rice on tv, but in reality she was no worse than dick cheney or donald rumsfeldt, so why was I picking up on her?

Perhaps its a male thing that we expect women to behave in a certain way, but in reality I am sure there are a lot of guys equally bad or worse, such as Chertoff or even Arnie and guys never single them out for abuse. No doubt nancy Pelosi thinks she is at the cutting edge of the women's equality agenda and she will do what has to be done.

Just an observation.
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Old 01-25-2010, 02:07 AM   #15
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Yes your correct Gnosis..unfortunatley it is now the constituntional right of every forign government or U.S. business to hire lobbyests to pay for their cause for hire. That means "gloves are off" for any government representative from our house or senate to be "approached" by anyone from any country with a checkbook to be bribed for favors.
Disgusting.
And Bushes and Clintons and Obama's are all to blame.
THEY hired the Supreme Court.

Hehehe I don't want an accident in the woods.
I'm probably wrong.
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Old 01-25-2010, 03:04 AM   #16
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Sorry... I just got "Its about taxes" quote.
Rediculous

Ever heard of right's of freedom? No, I think WE ALL forgot.

We assume we're going to "asend" from the big bad government.


Gimmee a break.

The Day that Government Employees and Banker Employee's make the most money in MY Country with NO risk........And I'm under scrutiny by the bankers and government employees for MY risk...I'm gonna take a second look at my rights.
While I have any.
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:51 AM   #17
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I did not mean to hijack this thread..And the way I spell,you'd think I was an end result of the California School Sytem.. I kid I kid
I did not mean to insinuate that all teachers in the California Education System Bankrupted California. I DO know teachers that don't care. They want their retirement regardless of the cost. I know people in the Post Office that want their pension,regardless of the cost. They EARNED it. Kinda
I know people that worked at Kaiser Steel in Fontana California their whole lives and found out their pension was worth nothing. And no recourse.
I know a LOT of start up companies that failed..(Guilty)
My Point?
It seems the Private Sector Pays the Bills with Risk attached.
The Government Sector "manages" the risk with no "out of pocket" investment or risk. I don't like it.
AND I don't the like Government attitude.
Only THEIR time to manage MY risk. My dough.
THAT"S WHY the Doctors don't like Medicare and Medicade.
It's NO risk to the PAYED govenment empoyee's.
I bet you just wish you were a government employee.

Who wouldn't want to have a job that pays well and has good job security?

Typical Republican behavior. If it's not from the private sector, it's BAAADDDDDDD, man.

And there's nothing wrong with people expecting to get their pensions. They bust their asses off and expect something there when they retire. Do you support CEOs burning up pension money for their own personal gain?
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:54 AM   #18
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Also, the next time you complain about your taxes, just remember that local taxes go to support YOUR lifestyle. They pay for YOUR roads, they pay to keep YOU safe and they pay to educate YOUR children (or children of people YOU know).

It's an imperfect system for sure and there's always room for reform.

I can't say the same for federal taxes in regards to representation.
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Old 01-25-2010, 07:15 AM   #19
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Hey... Have you heard of Ray Stevens....




See, I think this will wake up more people than me...

But, everyone HAS to Vote; to send these crooks

Packing...

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Old 01-25-2010, 10:29 AM   #20
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Let's don't fall into the left-right paradigm trap.

We have to solve the problem of not being able to get good people past the primary election process and electronic voting fraud - both caused by the corruption of money in politics.

It's all about money.
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Old 01-25-2010, 02:49 PM   #21
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I'm not a republican H. J. And I agree that if you put into a pension,you should get out your dough. All I'm saying is when Arnold mearly inquired into whether or not the amount of the teachers pension was a "tad" too much for the State he was trounced by the Teachers Union.
And no, I don't want to be a government employee.
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Old 01-25-2010, 05:38 PM   #22
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Both major parties are bought and paid for.

I don't believe things will change until we get the money out of politics. In my opinion, that means banning political contributions/advertising.
Canada has some strict legislation about this - not that it's not a problem too, maybe less, with limits. There are the big corp lobbyists...

These companies/corps 'invest' in political contributions for a return. It's just business. Americans seem to think this kind of regulation and oversight is 'communist' or 'socialist'. Sure seems to benefit the 'hidden hand' of the 'market' tho'!!

Also, hands-up votes. Does it not seem weird that voters are named - like the 'sponsors' can make sure their boy or girl did xyz, i.e. paper trail. I think they should be nameless with tallies, anonymous. People can always find out through television or phoning or following the news. The bad guys will know who to pick off. On the other side, accountability.

Hmm...
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Old 01-25-2010, 06:10 PM   #23
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YOU are not a nation of conservatives and liberals; YOU are a nation of constitutionally free human beings. The only ideas that we can agree upon stem from this one equality YOU give power to through your consent, equal protection under a rule of law. It is through this ratiocination that Republicans and Democrats proposition that they represent what is the best of the American way of life. “Join us!”, they say, “we believe in liberty, free markets, equality and a safer America!”, and you all know what they mean; liberty means you pay taxes and they don’t, liberty means say nothing of our corruption and we’ll hand you a conviction on middle management every-so-often, free market means freely open for upper echelon corruption and consolidation, equality means that you must be labeled, tracked and “secured” a place in your vision of society, safe means you are a terrorist until proven innocent, and safe means you must support the wars or “shut up”.


As long as You hold true to right and left wing demagoguery You will forever have these problems as long as you continue to vote along party lines be they Republican or Democrat nothing will change. They have the money and every 4 years they come out to say they care about you so they can continue the charade when will the bell go off in some people`s heads that they are just using you to secure there place in the program . They are starting to run scared you now see them bringing security to their town hall meetings . At these meetings attempts are made to muzzle any disent. It has nothing to do with TEA FRIGGEN PARTY`S for christ sake your on a sinking ship don`t wait till its at the bottom to jump off!
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Old 01-25-2010, 07:04 PM   #24
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Nancy Pelosi, is the head of America's House of Representitives... The changes
that take place in the Laws of our country goes first thru the House then
if passed in the House go to our Senate... It has been Nancy Pelosi that fast
tracks the process [Passing these NEW bills, without each house member
having a document to READ] calling for a vote without proper debate of the
issues in the draft of the bill.

Further, this woman granted stimulus funds to companies her husband invests
in... a trooly conflict of interest... And, FYI... I don't really care what one has
between there legs... more importantly it what they have between their ears.
As it was shown; she feels she can take funds and use them to enrich her own
life... A public servant that commits fraud, theft, corruption, a Troo crimmal
and the citizens of California, just let it continue. Allow her to be elected term
after term... Whereas, she NEEDS to be held accountable for her actions...
They ALL do...

NO, its not a male thing... its a Lazy thing... As I said she is a 'progressive '
meaning progress away from FREEDOM... Handing Americans over to the IMF
is the their plan. World Bankers... The state of America, has been planned for
a long time... The REAL power in America is in " We the People "... Here, I
know; that Obama is going to try and take down the internet to STOP the
news of this... But, I believe when he tries the people will Rise Up...

Trooly,


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I don't know who nancy pelosi is, or what she does, but i think she has a big shout in the USA and is bad news. During the iraq war i was particularly angry every time I seen Condoleeza Rice on tv, but in reality she was no worse than dick cheney or donald rumsfeldt, so why was I picking up on her?

Perhaps its a male thing that we expect women to behave in a certain way, but in reality I am sure there are a lot of guys equally bad or worse, such as Chertoff or even Arnie and guys never single them out for abuse. No doubt nancy Pelosi thinks she is at the cutting edge of the women's equality agenda and she will do what has to be done.

Just an observation.
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Tango - No conflict of interest legislation?

Also, I hear that bills are padded with other bills that slip through a lot.
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