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Old 01-25-2010, 08:03 PM   #26
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Yeah Caste..Sliding in other laws and back door deals has been going on since day 1. A lot of us either ignored it,or did'nt know how bad it really was.
But to give 300million dollars to nebraska if they agree to health reform without even having a final version took a lot of people by surprize.
They said "give us the dough and we'll sign anything."
It added additional insult to an already frustrated American.
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:59 AM   #27
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Both major parties are bought and paid for.

I don't believe things will change until we get the money out of politics. In my opinion, that means banning political contributions/advertising.
One day hopefully Seashore, but for now....


Supreme Court lifts limits on corporate political contributions, changing election equation

A bitterly divided Supreme Court on Thursday swept aside decades of legislative restrictions, ruling that corporations may spend as much as they want to sway voters in federal elections.

January 21, 2010

By David G. Savage
Tribune Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON — A bitterly divided Supreme Court on Thursday swept aside decades of legislative restrictions, ruling that corporations may spend as much as they want to sway voters in federal elections.

In a landmark 5-4 decision, the court's conservative bloc said corporations have the same right to free speech as individuals and, for that reason, the government may not stop corporations from spending to help their favored candidates.

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Old 01-26-2010, 02:34 PM   #28
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Of course there is legislation for ' Conflict of Interest.'

But, and it's a Big BUT, it All starts with a complaint needing to be filed....

Than, it's handed over to Judges of Law... There, are some honest Judges...
Very few... If they have " Esq. " after their name... Really, they have given
up their American citizenship... They really are members of the U.K.

Lawyers, [Liars] have fuuked up this country... And, it was ALL intentional...
Law makers, in Washington, D.C. Should NOT be able to be members of the
UK's Barristers... Judges, should NOT be allowed to be members of the UK's
Barristers... Judges, should be elected for a term with limits... NOT APPOINTED !!!

Come On... Our president is really, born in a different country... Complaints
filed can't EVEN get a day in court... How, ' fuuked Up ' is That... That's when
you know the system has been corrupted.

I've spent many hours thnking about Lawyers... I don't see any reason for
such a position. They ' ALL ' look for a way to currupt the Law... They don't earn
a living... They steal Money from American citizen's and the system... Lawyers...
Should be made to get a REAL Job or they should be deported
to the U.K. That's where owe their loyalty... That's where they should be...

Who, the hell ever heard of Dual Citizenship... Another Lawyer term... You
either are a citizen of a country or your NOT...

There, is Not a good enough reason to have an attorney... Unless, one needs
someone to shovel SHAT...

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to hate anyone... But... But... " Oooh, let it go..."









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Tango - No conflict of interest legislation?

Also, I hear that bills are padded with other bills that slip through a lot.

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Old 01-26-2010, 05:01 PM   #29
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Of course there is legislation for ' Conflict of Interest.'

But, and it's a Big BUT, it All starts with a complaint needing to be filed....

Than, it's handed over to Judges of Law... There, are some honest Judges...
Very few... If they have " Esq. " after their name... Really, they have given
up their American citizenship... They really are members of the U.K.

Lawyers, [Liars] have fuuked up this country... And, it was ALL intentional...
Law makers, in Washington, D.C. Should NOT be able to be members of the
UK's Barristers... Judges, should NOT be allowed to be members of the UK's
Barristers... Judges, should be elected for a term with limits... NOT APPOINTED !!!

Come On... Our president is really, born in a different country... Complaints
filed can't EVEN get a day in court... How, ' fuuked Up ' is That... That's when
you know the system has been corrupted.

I've spent many hours thnking about Lawyers... I don't see any reason for
such a position. They ' ALL ' look for a way to currupt the Law... They don't earn
a living... They steal Money from American citizen's and the system... Lawyers...
But the USA is the most litigious society on earth !! Even an eyelash in a cup of restaurant tea goes to court. A (scalding) cup of hot McDonald's coffee. What is up with THAT?

Elected judges can be easily bought and sold. Elected vs. appointed... it tilts, too, but any lawyer is married to Lady Law. The set of data is in it. << sounds like a fortune cookie lol

Is there no room for CREATIVITY????????
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Old 01-27-2010, 02:30 AM   #30
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Creativity? That's what America does best!! We make the movies, we make the Computer content,we CREATE the Computer Content,We EXPLOIT the Computer content,we design HDTV...based on Market driven products..even if we manufacture it out of the country.
We create Music that is loved by the world.
We make the best TV (groan) in 25 languages of reruns.
We design the first generation of new electronics.
We EMBRACE other cultures and ask them to come to OUR Country to learn and go home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY
We LOVE other cultures AND we're creative AND we respect other cultures AND our own.
Don't get me wrong...I'm a proud American and I want to share our expertise.
My Government is slow in learning it's people and what we have offer to the world.
We don't want to control it, we want to share it.

I HATE That.....
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:11 AM   #31
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you left out how great they have become at exporting jobs overseas

all kidding aside those running the country have run it into the ground amazing people when they want to be but in the name of greed it seems she has lost her way
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:39 AM   #32
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Agreed Northern Boy Sigh
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Old 01-27-2010, 04:17 AM   #33
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I guess what I meant was..theres an inclusion with a Global Economy and NWO and where Morality and Profit come toghether and seperate.
It seems Nancy Perosi has decided that it's her responsibility to make those choices for the American people because we're:
A) too busy, so trust her
B) too stupid
I resent either of those choices.

NAFTA and Trilateral Commission don't really seem to look at the perspective from the American work forces position,but more from a "Corporate" perspective for the good of the Regions financial position overall.

The original idea was,instead of Jobs and Manufacturering going to the Far East, we would reduce labor and transportation costs by building (Central America,USA and Canada Nafta) Maquiadora's in Mexico and keep transportation costs lower . And keep it in the region.
China and the Far East BLEW Labor costs out of the water over transportation costs.And Labor...........LABOR No Unions..cheap unaccountable labor
Tax Credits fluctuate.
Purto Rico was a tax have for 30years for U.S, Medical Device Manufacturers
Tax breaks ran out...

As tax incentives float from country to country, and labor costs and transportation prices fluctuate,so does Corporate decisions where to build product.
Some products are still cost effective in U.S.,some in Maquiadora's,some off shore. It depends on the LABOR cost.

We need to "retool" our thinking.

A lot of us are Americans on this website.. Others are caring people.

I ask... "For Corporate Profit,Or the Government,or Profit SHARING?"

I say we work toghether.AND we need something people believe in.
Then? we all win..
Oh except the cheap laborers... OK Whats it gonna cost?
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Old 01-27-2010, 05:38 AM   #34
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shybastid - I'm sure with you on the NAFTA thing. It could be abrogated, with 6 months notice. Finished. It was rammed down people's throats here in the day - pure corporatist p*ke. The 'story' was that it would 'create jobs' so now mass yobs in the service industry, clerking it up in made in China clothing stores.

Pfft. Another great thing - hey, I like your list! - about the US is how it throws way more white collar criminals in the slammer than Canadians. Here's a short one. A big scandal with blood supply here, PM's business interests, went way down the Clinton pipe to prisons in [wherever Clinton was guvner], prisoners get a pint drained for $5 or whatever. Next thing the country's blood supply is contaminated with HIV, hep, and so on. Dads die, moms die. Their kids have HIV, ... What happens at the end of that big line is one doctor gets a lollipop, community service. Canada should have those US 'nads!

Whew, a vent

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Old 01-28-2010, 04:36 AM   #35
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shybastid Profit is fine and dandy I`m all for it but in todays corporate climate greed has replaced profit and the only way to accumulate greed is to drive wage and benefit costs down at any and all expense . The cost of moving to third world nations with no labor laws is the abundance of willing hungry workers who will do the jobs means closing down and moving factories is a short term problem knowing the long term gains will be immeasurable
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Old 01-28-2010, 06:49 AM   #36
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Well, at least buddy here in the 5-4 U.S. Supreme Court decision - a mighty dissent from Justice John Paul Stevens...

Who are the other 5 idiots?????? WT(VERYBIG)FUP????

“The fact that corporations are different from human beings might seem to need no elaboration, except that the majority opinion almost completely eludes it…

Unlike natural persons, corporations have ‘limited liability’ for their owners and managers, ‘perpetual life,’ separation of ownership and control, ‘and favorable treatment of the accumulation and distribution of assets . . . that enhance their ability to attract capital and to deploy their resources in ways that maximize the return on their shareholders’ investments.’ 494 U. S., at 658–659. Unlike voters in U. S. elections, corporations may be foreign controlled.

Unlike other interest groups, business corporations have been ‘effectively delegated responsibility for ensuring society’s economic welfare’; they inescapably structure the life of every citizen. ‘[T]he resources in the treasury of a business corporation,’ furthermore, ‘are not an indication of popular support for the corporation’s political ideas.’ Id., at 659 (quoting MCFL, 479 U. S., at 258).

‘They reflect instead the economically motivated decisions of investors and customers. The availability of these resources may make a corporation a formidable political presence, even though the power of the corporation may be no reflection of the power of its ideas.’ 494 U. S., at 659 (quoting MCFL, 479 U. S., at 258). It might also be added that corporations have no consciences, no beliefs, no feelings, no thoughts, no desires.

Corporations help structure and facilitate the activities of human beings, to be sure, and their ‘personhood’ often serves as a useful legal fiction. But they are not themselves members of ‘We the People’ by whom and for whom our Constitution was established. These basic points help explain why corporate electioneering is not only more likely to impair compelling governmental interests, but also why restrictions on that electioneering are less likely to encroach upon First Amendment freedoms.”


Anyway.
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Old 01-28-2010, 07:02 AM   #37
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It does no good to complain about the politician du jour.

They're all crooks, liars and thieves and I don't care if you like Obama or Ron Paul, they're all the same.

From personal experience, I am dealing with crooks, liars and thieves as part of a state commission. Those are the folks that are really attracted to politics.
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Old 01-28-2010, 07:13 AM   #38
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It does no good to complain about the politician du jour.
It's healthy IMO, like a Tomatina Festival.



hey... I smell Salsa...
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Old 01-28-2010, 08:56 AM   #39
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Northern Boy...

Like I said, Lawyers; attorneys.. They could fuuk up anything... AND, HAVE...

They, ARE the same as bankers... To Me, Slime... Is, it possible to strip the
skin off a Human being....? Naaa, THAT's ToO Good for her... I think I've
said enough... Gawd, she makes me gag... The hag... Fish bait...

Verry trooly,


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you left out how great they have become at exporting jobs overseas

all kidding aside those running the country have run it into the ground amazing people when they want to be but in the name of greed it seems she has lost her way
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:21 PM   #40
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Good thread.. I like it when posters basicly all agree on a topic. Sure makes it easier on my brain. I can understand nuts and bolts reality. I can "see" it.
I get cloudy real fast on some of the topics here in Avalon. I 'want" to believe a lot of what I read...including "disclosure is imminent" but I've been tapping my foot for years now.
I'm pretty sure Nancy Pelosi is a reptilian though. THAT I believe.
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Old 01-29-2010, 06:32 PM   #41
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I Rest My Case......Check Please...Oh It's On Me

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=123472
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:31 PM   #42
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Nice Find.... Thank you... For posting it...

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Old 01-29-2010, 08:49 PM   #43
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Sorry Tango... I just cringe when I see Nancy Pelosi on TV. She gives me the creeps. I've never written more in a blog in my life. I'd reregister to vote if I were in her ward to vote her out.
I see your in Arizona...Your welcome to visit here in Tahoe anytime. I'm a great host. Common up.
We almost did a Camelot Conference here in Tahoe last October. I even spoke to Kerry about it. We might do one in May or June.Stay tuned.
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I, Like the things you post... John McCain (R) AZ, needs to go too as HE is a
progressive... But, She's worse... I say a little something everyday to try to
wake the people of California... I am very familiar with your area... Had to
pick up a CH-54 Skycrane from Reno... in 2000, Tahoe was right over the Ridge.
I've spent some time in your area... Nice.... Know it... Rented a car... Had to
stay a week, while the made the A/C airworthy... Keep up the energy...


FYI: If we KEEP up the pressure " She'll Be Gone."... We also need to THINK
about Giving our Sheriffs the tools to take these Fed thief's OUT.........

You've got My Support... KEEP POSTING.....

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Sorry Tango... I just cringe when I see Nancy Pelosi on TV. She gives me the creeps. I've never written more in a blog in my life. I'd reregister to vote if I were in her ward to vote her out.
I see your in Arizona...Your welcome to visit here in Tahoe anytime. I'm a great host. Common up.
We almost did a Camelot Conference here in Tahoe last October. I even spoke to Kerry about it. We might do one in May or June.Stay tuned.
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Old 01-30-2010, 02:32 AM   #45
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LOL... New Sheriff in Town? Arizona has a good Sheriff unless your a prisoner there. I don't know if I agree with his position of humiliating all incarcerated prisoners there, but at least he has some gonads on a Federal level. He WILL challange his and our constitutional rights as a Sherrif and OUR rights in jail. He "pushes " the envelope. At least it "looks" like democracy is being held accountable.
Me? I'd stay away from Arizona if I were an undocumented entry into my country or a criminal.
But thats just me.
Arizona's Sheriff is a MoFo. AND He's proud of it. AND I woud'nt argue with that doode.
Heh But that's just me.
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Old 01-30-2010, 03:42 AM   #46
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Yep... Joe's a good guy... Feds (Progressive are giving him a bad time, Now)
ALL he is doing is following the LAW... How is it said " So, it is written; So it will
be done."

Let's, get back to taking out the garbage... That's running our congress, under
a false flag... Progressive's... Will have to get the Money out of it; as stated
above... But, first this Hag has got to go... She sent money out of the states.

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So... You, understand your NEW Education " Progressive " How to fight it...

Take your MONEY... For their movement... Listen ' TO THE WORDS '... In your Face...






It's, all ' UP TO YOU ' American's... Can't blame anyone else if YOUR Stupid...

Their movement... You Take Your Country For Their... Profit... I willl Point the

Rest is up to You... And, You think your NOT being Controlled....

Remember the Name..... George Soro's, The guy that takes down countries...

Trooly,


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Than... This came out...

"Today, even though President Obama is against off shore drilling for our country, he signed an executive order to loan 2 Billion of our taxpayers dollars to a Brazilian Oil Exploration Company (which is the 8th largest company in the entire world) to drill for oil off the coast of Brazil! The oil that comes from this operation is for the sole purpose and use of China and NOT THE USA! Now, here's the real clincher...the Chinese government is under contract to purchase all the oil that this oil field will produce, which is hundreds of millions of barrels of oil ".......

We have absolutely no gain from this transaction whatsoever.....!

Wait, it gets more interesting:.....

Guess who is the largest individual stockholder of this Brazilian Oil Company and who would benefit most from this? It is American BILLIONAIRE, ' George Soros,' who was one of President Obama's most generous financial supporters during his campaign... Are you ' getting it ' yet. Progressive's....

If you are able to connect the dots and follow the money, you are probably as upset as I am. Not a word of this transaction was broadcast on any of the other news networks....! Those Fuuker's Think, we are Stupid....!!!

Forward these facts to others who ' care ' about this country and where it is going. Also, let all of your Government representatives know how you feel about this. SOoooo. Still don't believe me:

Below is the Wall street Journal article to confirm this.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...120524166.html


See... I'm not sooo Stupid... This Lady is just another User/Abuser/Thief'/Hag

Crimminal..... Working for a Black Man, that plays a White Man; Working for

Soro's that works for Rothchild... To Steal the Money of Americans...

Fuukin' Lawyer's......

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Old 01-30-2010, 03:59 PM   #49
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Heheheheh I watch Beck. We'll see how he handles his new fame and fortune. Sometimes is antics are over the edge,but even my kids get his points. Thats a good thing.
I think those "teabaggers" just lost a lot of credibility by offering to pay Sarah Palin 100K to speak,then charge 500bucks a plate to listen to her.
I think their even cancelling the gig.
It seems fame and fortune always has a pricetag.
As Groucho Marx once said "Id never belong to a Club that would have me as a member." I'm kinda in THAT club.
I don't want to be classified as anything.
I'll sign a petition though. Where do I sign?
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Tango, I am getting something on my radar....

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