A channeled message to humanity about "UFO spiral" in Norway

[THE eXchanger]

THERE is upon this internet
a site, actually several sites,
set up, by native people
that demean, everyone who teaches
anything, related to native teachings

We stumbled upon it, a few days ago

Quite frankly, this does them,
a big dis_service

We have said this before,
and, we will say it again,
that, anyone who you have issues with,
anything

for example, you are a black person,
with issues, with white people, red people, brown people, or yellow people
or, you are a yellow person,
with issues, with black people, red people, brown people, or white people
or, you are a white person,
with issues, with red people, brown people, black people or white people
or, you are a red person,
with issues with yellow, brown, black or white people
and/or you are a person, with issues, of mixed races
and/or you are a person, with issues, of your own race

guess what,
in your neXt lifetime, you will be-what you depise

The mirrors,
you put out to this world/and,
go much further, than just this world,
they travel into the inter dimensions/and, multi dimensions

are clearly, and, merely a reflection,
of YOU
NOT, the others,
you 'blog' about

also-while we are on this topic

many who are incarnate at this time
in skins, other than red, are in these skins
because, they had issue, with people in these coloured skins

so-how is that,
for eXchange

many, many people within this world,
are mature souls, and, are old souls,
and, as, such ~ should realise,
that each and every life time,
is just another 'KICK AT A CAN"

(hopefully, you do NOT kick this KAN)

many, may people within this world,
are choosing to do,
GRAND CYCLES on earth,
at this time

something perhaps, worthy to ponder

there is NOT anyone who you meet,
that, you truly can NOT learn something from,
even if, iT iS only the true realisation,
that, you do NOT enjoy their negative pole,
as, that will allow you, to simply
forgive/release them, set them free,
send them love, oft times, it is those who need love the most,
that do NOT act in ways, they deserve LOVE

TRY to move from negative poles into positive poles,
where you truly can create
a zero-point balance - of good for all

that truly is what, taking a journey, is all about

all else, is a trip (pardon the pun)

iF you have questions,
ask them

kulkulkan
thru susan

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by ojibway

Yes, this I know. Not to many moon's ago, I began to understand what my belief was, what my truth was, what it was based on. And it turned out to be lies. Even though I have many more miles to go, at least I can now try to understand what it is that I believe. Instead of going through life and telling myself that I know the truth, instead of lying to myself, I can now say "self' is what you believe the truth? instead of the "truth is what I believe". No more absolutes.

absolutely, and, there is 'no doubt'
you are, on the right road, iT is a road, that leads thru
you/your higher self/your essence, all 9 aspects,
right into the heart of your ORiGiNAL SPARK

you are a warrior of light ~ eXpansion, iS a choice !!!

and, yes, the 13 moons, they are important ones

we might suggest, to you,
and, to others

to go out, into the moon_light
(which sometimes, occurs, during day_light)
and, daily capture some of its rays

there is much energy, the divine GrandMother Moon,
can bestow upon you, should you choose,
to raise, your wrists togethers,
and, form, your handing into a big "v" or, a 'catching bowl"
and, feel a sense, of being one, with its light

there is much energy, the divine Grandfather Skies,
hidden within it, it's triad/trine/and, trinity of ether,
can bring into you, should you choose,
to breathe, and, ask, to be one with it

there is much energy, the divine Father Sun,
can bestow upon you, should you choose,
to raise, your wrists togethers,
and, form, your handing into a big "v" or, a 'catching bowl"
and, feel a sense, of being one, with its light

and, for grounding,
if possible, walk the earth daily, in your bare feet
(we do this, even in the cold of winter)
and, feel, the heart_beat of the mother
in the soles of your feet,
and/or dig with your hands,
into the dirt,
and, feel a sense, of being one, with its beat/and, its texture

and, also,
water it, has consciousness
and, also food, it, has consciousness
bless it, and, show gratitude, towards it
there are ways, to heal yourself,
when you are immersed in water,
susan shed 60 lbs, and, 30% body fat, in 2009
whilst swimming, almost everyday, from June-December
and, paying great attention, to what it is, that she became one with

there is so very much,
we can eXchange, and, share with you,
will you also, come along on this ride,
the one, where teachers, can be students,
and, students can be teachers,
as, that is, what iT is,
to ignite the flame of an eXchanger,
where all of us, are simply, eXchangers.

Let us always journey...and, NOT trip

Kulkulcan
thru Susan

[THE eXchanger]

15 (5 members and 10 guests)

this group of 10 - are persistant

[ojibway]

A teacher once told me that the only stupid question, is the one you didn't ask.

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by ojibway

A teacher once told me that the only stupid question, is the one you didn't ask.

that type of teacher, is a KEEPER

[ojibway]

I just saw the film 'The Fourth Kind".
HOLY ****!!!!!!!!!

Information has been coming at me fast and furiously these last couple of weeks.
Kulkulkan, I now understand the need for protection during dreamtime.

After seeing this film and rereading the info in this thread I must add one more thing.

There's something happening here,
What it is ain't exactly clear,
It's time we stop children, what's the sound, everybody look what's going dddooowwwnnn....n.

[ojibway]

Some more food for thought.
I have seen the reports behind the film the fouth kind and they are saying that it is poppycock. So Ok, but as we all know alien abductions have been reported by many people, all over the world. So there is some truth in this, unless of course, you hold no belief in aliens whatsoever. All ancient creation mythologies have an intervention of a god or gods in the creation of humans. We humans have a penchant for glorifying beings. If you are Muslim Mohammed is a god, if Christian the pope is a god, if an advocate of peace, Gandhi is a god, if suppressed by oppression, Martin Luther King Jr. is a god. Yes these people are humans, but they all stand tall in turning points of the history of this planet.

If we are to entertain the fact that the gods of the earliest creation myths are indeed an Alien race, to us humans, we would have glorified their presence. They would have simply done many wonders beyond our belief. Flying around in spaceships(traversing the heavens) would surely be seen as godly. The one thing that confuses me about these aliens, is, where are they now. If we are the children of the gods, why do they not provide nurture, we are their seed, why the hands-off approach. Pondering that thought, I have come to think that the seed of the planet is progressing just as planned. By the seeming disappearance of the gods, the course of the seed of life is progressing as "they" planned, in chaos. As it was in the beginning, so it is in the end. History repeats itself. I have proposed in this thread that planet earth is a seed colony, a farm, we are the property(in their eyes) of an alien race, we are their creation. I have also further proposed that parasites are implanted in us that control are psyche by interfering with our chakra's.

If this is true, if they actually have the capability to create life and to control it with a hands-off approach, to control the actual spirit. Then what could they also be capable of? Abductions report telepathy being used as communication. The ancient prophets report visions through dreams. Channellings, which seem to be increasing, are also telepathic links with spirits. I myself have had the benefit of this experience in this very thread. And from Kulkulkan himself, who has, in some respects been equated to be Jesus. That is quite an honour for such an evolved spirit to take the time to speak to me, quite an honour indeed. My path leads me to answers, but to remain open, I must question these answers. To see the forest, I must first get past a whole pile of trees. Not an easy thing when you are standing in that pile.

I want to say to you here, that, all of these visions that have brought about very strong beliefs regardless of its venue are something that has been taught to us, by a being that is for the most part non-visible, a being that is, in the hands-off mode. Please do not misunderstand, I am not saying that everything we are taught through these visions has a malevolent intent. I actually see much good, in ‘all’ of it, but it is the human who uses the righteous word for malevolent purposes, that creates the chaos. And this may be their vision from a malevolent source, which is harnessed in one that seeks power over what becomes their subordinates. So, whether it is malevolent or benevolent it is still something we are taught, as if we are children. With that thought, I am trying to say that what we believe through these visions is not our own belief. Do you understand? From the dawn of time, we have been told what to believe, we have not developed our OWN belief.

When the languages were confounded and the united people scattered upon the earth, these beliefs that were taught to us were solidified by our segregation from each other, it divided us, and the chaos began. The book of Enoch is a writing that is not embraced by the three main monotheistic religions. Why that is when this prophet is quoted from, from other prophets who are embraced needs examination. You can read it here, http://www.heaven.net.nz/writings/thebookofenoch.htm. One thing that Enoch tells us is that our souls are collected.

Sheol of the Underworld
“And thence I went to another place, and he mountain [and] of hard rock.
And there was in it four hollow places, deep and wide and very smooth. How smooth are the hollow places and deep and dark to look at.
Then Raphael answered, one of the holy angels who was with me, and said unto me: 'These hollow places have been created for this very purpose, that the spirits of the souls of the dead should assemble therein, yea that all the souls of the children of men should assemble here. And these places have been made to receive them till the day of their judgement and till their appointed period [till the period appointed], till the great judgement (comes) upon them.' I saw (the spirit of) a dead man making suit,”

The Book of Enoch equates very well with Aliens, they have created the life on this planet and they are also in “control” of the spirits of the life they have created. Life or reality has been likened to a Matrix, and the movie ‘The Matrix’ is a perfect example. Morpheus tells Neo that the matrix is “a veil that has been pulled over your eyes to hide the truth behind your existence”, or something like that. As Kulkulkan has pointed out to me. The reflection in the mirror will always be yourself. What we will see in the veil is what we have been taught, that which has become your(self). With your(self) being what you believe and thus forming a reality, for better or for worse. If life can be so directed, and it has been directed, then why cannot death be directed as well. Why cannot death be controlled. Why cannot death be a matrix, a veil that is pulled over the eyes of the spirit?

I have always thought death was a release, that the pain of life ceases and we are finally allowed to become our true selves. But according to Enoch death is not a release, it is another prison. We receive the wisdom of spirits through channellings. They tell us what is required to make us a more enlightened person, to become more inline with their realm. And I think that this is very…good, because they do not hate. But at the same time I cannot help to wonder if the vision of these spirits is not a veil, a simple reflection of themselves, that they are turn relating to us. A veil that has been pulled over their eyes to hide the truth behind their existence. Am I making any sense? All is not right in this world, that fact is in plain sight, it is the forest, but we are in the pile of trees and we cannot see the forest. I would like to believe that the spirit realm is non-corruptible, that it is pure goodness. But if a veil has been pulled over their eyes as well, we are in much more trouble than anyone, including the spirits, really realizes. These are very serious, very serious allegations that I have brought forth. Kulkulkan and other spirits, I want you to discuss these allegations amongst yourselves, to investigate, I command/demand it, as you have instructed me to do. The world awaits your reply.

[Jonah]

Ojibway,

Your findings are excellent!

things are not alway as they seem...

Please feel free to start a new thread on this...

[ojibway]

Yes, I think I see your point on a new thread, I have now made a call to the spirits, which will require some input from those who channel. Yes, a new thread.

[THE eXchanger]

instead of a new thread,
why don't you alter; the one, at the beginning ???

and, summarize there,

the 'blue kachina' - as, you know it NOW ???

for others, that try to follow a thread,
it is hard, for them
to jump all over the place

[THE eXchanger]

COPY post # 4 above this, into the first one

[ojibway]

Yes Susan I can see the confusion, but I do think a new thread is good so that the story can flow and the data can be analysed in one breath, as opposed to instead of picking up things as you go through the responses. It will be hard to generate the needed input in the state this thread is in. It will be long beginning, so I will also make a pdf file for it as well