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Old 10-27-2008, 01:28 AM   #1
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2. History Behind the National Economic Security And Reformation Act (NESARA)
NESARA�s reformations are the main tools for implementing important US Supreme Court rulings made in January 1993 on several cases filed by farmers living in US Midwest and Mountain states areas against banks, specific government officials, certain judges, and others. Certain US Generals and Admirals were supportive of, and one General was co-plaintiff in, the Farmers� Cases that went to the US Supreme Court. You may recall in the 1970�s and 1980�s there were news reports and documentaries about thousands of family farmers losing their farms to foreclosure. Willie Nelson has been doing Farm Aid concerts for years to help these farmers.
In the 1980�s some of the farmers investigated why there were so many bank foreclosures on their farms and discovered certain banks were fraudulently foreclosing on their farms. When these farmers turned to government officials for assistance and filed lawsuits against these banks, they learned certain government officials and judges were working in collusion with the banks. The farmers also learned that certain aspects of the current Federal Reserve banking system were unconstitutional and pursued their lawsuits through the Federal District Court in Denver and other locations. Some of the farmers involved in the lawsuits were harassed by the IRS and in turn investigated the IRS involvement with the bankers. After years of lawsuits, several of the farmers� lawsuits reached the US Supreme Court including Baskerville and Foster v. Credit Bank of Wichita, Federal Land Bank, and First Interstate Bank of Fort Collins from the Denver Federal District Court. For simplicity, I call these cases at the US Supreme Court the "Farmers� Cases".
In early 1993, the nine US Supreme Court judges ruled seven to two in favor of the farmers on all major issues including that the Federal Reserve Banking system was unconstitutional, that the US has been operating outside the Constitution since March 1933, that major reformations of government and our banking system are required, and that financial redress and remedies must be provided for financial losses due to bank fraud suffered by generations of Americans. The farmers involved certain very powerful US military Generals and Admirals in their cases. These Generals and Admirals made it clear to the US Supreme Court judges that they knew the farmers� cases were righteous and watched in the courtroom as the US Supreme Court Judges heard the cases. The presence of the Generals and Admirals is why the majority of the judges felt they had to rule properly and in favor of the farmers. Because of the extraordinary nature of the necessary reformations, the Court sealed all court records and put all people directly involved under Non Disclosure agreements (gag orders) until the reformations are publicly and officially announced.
The Court had a duty to design and implement reformations to correct the injustices; therefore, the Court recruited experts in Constitutional Law, banking, economics, and monetary systems to work in task force groups to develop the needed reformations. During the two years these expert groups developed the reformations, irrefutable proof was provided to the US Supreme Court Judges that the 16th Amendment to the Constitution, the income tax amendment, had not been properly ratified. The Judges had no choice but to include abolishing income taxes in the reformations development process. It was also found that there had been a definite pattern of federal administrations and Congress ignoring the Constitution in laws passed since 1933. FDR took the US out of Constitutional Law when he declared a national banking emergency and amended the Trading with the Enemy Act in March 1933.
Constitutional Law experts working on government reformations determined that to end the pattern of blatant disregard for the Constitution, it would be necessary to require the sitting US administration and US Congress to resign when Constitutional Law is restored. Following completion of the development of the reformations, the Court appointed certain experts and others to a "committee" which has authority to manage the process of announcing and implementing the reformations.
Once the reformations were developed, the Court made half-hearted efforts to implement the reformations through an "Accords" agreement process with the Clinton administration. During that time, very little progress was made to implement the reformations. However quantities of the new US Treasury currency backed by gold were printed and shipped to certain banks in the US where the currency has sat in bank vaults for years awaiting the announcement of the reformations. When NESARA is announced, many more shipments of the new Treasury currency will be shipped to all banks in the US under guard by US military units.
During the years of the Accords process, the Court approved a "claims against the government process" (also known as Farm Claims or Bank Claims) which was meant to provide specific financial redress to Americans, however, various groups and individuals interfered with the claims process.
Finally in 1998, the powerful US military Generals and Admirals consulted with constitutional law experts regarding the lack of progress in getting the much-needed reformations implemented. The Generals, Admirals, and constitutional law experts all knew the US Supreme Court Judges were purposely stalling the reformations process. It was decided that the only other way to accomplish the crucial reformations was to compile all the needed reformations into a law and have the law passed by Congress. The National Economic Security And Reformation Act (NESARA) containing required reformations was submitted to Congress in 1999 where it sat with little action for almost a year. Late one evening in March 2000, a written quorum call was hand-delivered by Delta Force and Navy SEALs to only members of the US Senate and the US House who were sponsors and co-sponsors of NESARA. The members were immediately accompanied by the Delta Force and Navy SEALs to their respective voting chambers where they passed the National Economic Security And Reformation Act.
The National Economic Security And Reformation Act provides the following, some of which will take place immediately after the official announcement of NESARA which is to be televised live from Washington, DC:
1. Restores Constitutional Law in the USA.
2. Requires the current US administration to resign their positions to allow a fresh start at the national level and installs Constitutionally acceptable NESARA President and Vice President Designates until new elections can take place within six months. Bush and Cheney will be resigning and the Cabinet and Appointees by the President, and all members of Congress must resign within 72 hours of NESARA�s announcement.
3. NESARA US President Designate declares "peace" because NESARA abolishes unconstitutional states of emergency.
4. As partial remedy for 100 years of government and banking fraud, credit card balances are zeroed out and bank debt relief is given to Americans for bank loans including mortgages, car loans, education loans, business loans, and other bank debt. Banks will be paid $9000 per each credit card account with a balance; these funds were raised in special revenue generating activities in Europe. NESARA requires other bank debts be made self-liquidating loans and US banks are instructed to use new high revenue generating processes to pay off Americans� bank loans.
5. Initiates the US Treasury Bank System with new U.S. Treasury currency backed by precious metals. The Federal Reserve is abolished and Federal Reserve facilities and most personnel are absorbed into the Treasury Bank System. We will be exchanging our Federal Reserve notes, which are not backed by gold, for the US Treasury currency which is backed by gold. Many bank personnel have already been trained on NESARA and the new currency is already in some banks� vaults.
6. Abolishes Income Taxes in US and creates a national sales tax on new, non-essential items as revenue for government. Essential items such as food and medicine, and used items are exempt from the sales tax.
The NESARA law requires that a minimum of one time each year, there must be an effort made to announce NESARA. Three current US Supreme Court judges control the committee in charge of NESARA�s announcement. The Judges have used their overall authority to secretly sabotage NESARA�s announcement; thus each year NESARA has been blocked from being announced.
This is why NESARA has not been announced: the people with the overall authority to order NESARA�s announcement are, in fact, blocking NESARA.
Due to the gag order on NESARA, it is difficult for true NESARA supporters to learn exactly what has happened to stop NESARA from being announced.
Investigating details with hundreds of people has yielded exactly what needs to be done to resolve key issues and bring NESARA to announcement. After learning what the "problems" related to NESARA are, I�ve researched deeply to find the "solutions" and those people who can carry out the solutions and bring NESARA to announcement.
In many ways, our country is facing the worst crisis of its history:
More Americans are unemployed, drowning in debt, and living in poverty than anytime since World War II
Our government irresponsibly races to assume more debt on top of highest historical debts
Our military lose their lives in battles for greedy corporations� gains
Our elections revolve around lies, bribery, and betrayals.
We do not hear "truth" in our media; the media is controlled by opponents of Americans and America�s Constitutional Law.
Some of our greatest Americans speak the truth of today�s America:
These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Thomas Paine, December 19, 1776
We, the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution. Abraham Lincoln
The cause of America is in a great measure the cause of all mankind. �We have it in our power to begin the world over again. Thomas Paine, Common Sense, 1776
Our Founding Fathers and Abraham Lincoln had true courage. Our Founding Fathers faced the reality of the tyranny by the English Crown and chose to put their lives on the line to gain freedom!
We Americans must now follow the lead of our Founding Fathers and restore America through resolving the problems blocking NESARA and bring NESARA to announcement! NESARA Now!
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3. Debt Forgiveness
When the true NESARA law is announced, the debt forgiveness of credit cards issued by U.S. banks is immediate. What I mean by immediate is that literally, the minute the formal announcement of credit card debt forgiveness is made, the U.S. banks are supposed to run special computer programs that instantly ZERO OUT all their credit card customers' accounts balances.
While these special programs are running in the banks' computers doing the zeroing out of the credit card accounts' balances, there may be a few hours time when people cannot use their credit cards. This will be discussed in the announcement so that all merchants and service providers who accept credit cards will know that credit card transactions will temporarily be unable to be processed.
The reason that credit card accounts balances must be zeroed out almost instantly once the debt forgiveness is announced is obvious: if there were any delay, people would rush out to put new charges on their credit cards. This is also why credit card transactions will briefly be delayed from processing as the zeroing out of balances is occurring.
Many of the major U.S. banks hired consultants from major consulting firms to design, develop, program and test their credit card accounts zeroing out computer programs. These special computer programs were tested and ready to be used in October 2000, over two years ago. These programs have continued to be sitting on the U.S. banks' computers waiting to be used when the true NESARA law is announced.
I did learn this week that executives of some U.S. banks have been considering purposely delaying running these computer programs to zero out their customers' credit card accounts when the true NESARA law is announced. These executives have the strange idea that this will somehow cause problems for NESARA.
However, there are MANY banks which will be doing the credit card debt forgiveness correctly, just as the true NESARA law requires. Because the credit card debt forgiveness is SUCH a BIG DEAL to Americans, all Americans with credit cards are going to be talking to their friends and family members about NESARA's amazing credit card forgiveness!
Therefore, if any U.S. bankers try to delay doing the NESARA credit card forgiveness, their customers will be talking to other people whose banks will be correctly doing the credit card forgiveness! Then, Americans will KNOW that some U.S. banks are doing the RIGHT things and Americans will also know WHICH banks are NOT doing the right things.
These U.S. banking executives, who are considering trying to cause problems with the NESARA credit card debt forgiveness, are either simple-minded or deluding themselves. I'm told that the executives at Citibank, Bank One, and First Union Bank are among the U.S. bankers who are deluding themselves into thinking they can get away with delaying the NESARA credit card debt forgiveness!
These banker boys are sadly mistaken. Americans will quickly realize that it is only CERTAIN BANKS who are trying to cause problems. Folks, when the true NESARA is announced, we can all be watchdogs on Citibank, Bank One, and First Union Bank and any other banks that fail to process the credit card debt forgiveness properly. There will numbers we can call to report such things. We can tell everyone that WE KNEW beforehand that the executives at these banks were going to try to scam Americans out of their rightful credit card debt forgiveness!
However, even if some banks try to delay the zeroing out of credit card balances, the White Knights will take over these banks and run the special zeroing out computer programs! The White Knights will arrest all bankers who helped try to delay these NESARA benefits to Americans!
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The poll results indicate many of you want to know more about NESARA Debt Forgiveness. In a nutshell, I'm told that NESARA requires either OUTRIGHT FORGIVENESS of bank-related debts, such as credit card debt, or for the bank to change the `debt' into a "self-liquidating loan" which means the bank arranges to create revenue which automatically PAYS OFF the debt for the customer. Under NESARA, U.S. banks will have NEW ways, previously prohibited to U.S. banks, to create very large amounts of revenue very quickly; this is why the U.S. banks can easily do these kinds of debt forgiveness and self-liquidating loans.
I'm told that credit card debt forgiveness will mean the ZEROING OUT of all U.S. banks' credit cards held by people who live in the U.S. regardless of whether they are citizens or not. However, you must be a U.S. citizen/natural person/sovereign to receive the NESARA benefits which lift all financial institution mortgage debt and other bank-related debt from your shoulders. Mortgages before 1999 will, I'm told, be totally forgiven and people will receive the deeds to their property within a few months of the NESARA Announcement. I'm told those mortgages begun in 1999 and later will be changed into self-liquidating loans where the BANK PAYS OFF the mortgage and people will be informed of the approximate date when the mortgage will be paid off and when they will receive the deeds to their property. Mortgages, such as private party contracts, may have some kind of adjustments made, I'm told, to ensure that any "interest rates" are in alignment with the new banking and economic rules under NESARA. There are OTHER KINDS of loans which are related to banks and which will either be forgiven or turned into "self-liquidating" loans which the BANKS and financial organizations PAY OFF. Because the bank and federal government FRAUDS against our U.S. citizens are so extensive, MUCH of the debt we have will be LIFTED from us with NESARA's announcement.
I'm told that as of the NESARA Announcement, all credit card accounts in U.S. banks will be ZEROED OUT for U.S. citizens/natural persons/sovereigns and non-citizens. I'm told that as of the NESARA Announcement, ALL PAYMENTS on other bank-related debts will be SUSPENDED for some months and we will submit applications to the appropriate authorities to have these debts either forgiven or turned into self-liquidating loans. The NESARA Benefits for all mortgage and other bank-related debt are given only to U.S. citizens/natural persons/sovereigns. These NESARA debt forgiveness benefits apply whether the debts are in current, past due, or collections/ foreclosure status. I'm told the details of all these things will be covered in the NESARA Announcement and follow-up news conferences.
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4. The End of the Internal Revenue Service
When NESARA is announced, every office of the IRS will be closed by White Knights Federal Marshals, with the exception of those areas in offices processing returns. Absolutely all collection processes or actions will end and IRS revenue officers will be terminated. Any tax payments made in the normal course of maintaining currency status with the IRS that are received after the announcement will be returned.
Established Taxpayer disputes for refunds will be honored, new disputes can be filed for up to 30 days after NESARA announcement.
Business transmittals such as Forms 940s and 941s, and the process for employees to obtain current year and last year refunds will be covered by the White Knight announcement. WITHHOLDING EMPLOYEE'S MONEY FOR STATE OR FEDERAL INCOME TAXES WILL NOT BE ALLOWED after the announcement.
ALL INCOME TAX WILL END. This includes State Income Tax as well. The tyranny of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OVER THE STATES WILL END WITH THE RETURN OF CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. The States will not have the precedent in Constitutional Law to continue Income Tax.
All individuals in prison for Income Tax related crimes will be exonerated and released.
Liberal unemployment benefits will be given to IRS employees and employees of other professions affected by the IRS closure, such as CPAs, accountants, tax attorneys, tax preparers etc. These benefits will include cross training and career counseling. Many IRS employees will become employed by the Treasury Dept in the National Sales Tax area.
Historical facts concerning the IRS
The Sixteenth Amendment, establishing the Internal Revenue Service, took effect on February 15, 1913. There is strong evidence that the Amendment was passed in the Legislatures of only 4 States and would therefore not be a legal Amendment. The current Code of Federal Regulations, (CFRs), shows that Title 26, the IRS Code, has not been enacted into "Positive" Law. NOR has Congress, Title 3. With the Amendment not being Legal, The President Designate can declare it null and void thus pulling the plug on the IRS. All litigation concerning this Amendment must reflect this fact and the legal remedies for damages administered.
NOTE; The Grace Commission formed by President Reagan reported that not one dime of the money collected by the IRS goes to pay for government services. With the exception of paying for IRS expenses, all of this money is paid to the owners of the FRB. The payment to the FRB goes first to interest and then to principle. The Federal Government is primarily run by borrowed money from the FRB.
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5. Peace Declared
The new President Designee will declare "peace" and call home all aggressive military units throughout the world. This is not only a good thing but it is required for the Prosperity funding to take place. In a State of War, a nations banking system is altered to reflect the hostility to one or more Nations. Assets are often frozen, banking ties are severed and the normal flow of money is interrupted. With the new banking laws on both Federal and International levels, peace must reign between Nations in order for these new banking laws to take effect. Many Prosperity Program Trusts also require a condition of "Peace" between Nations as a prerequisite to funding. The purpose of these humanitarian funds is to help people in all areas of the world. War can not exist when humanitarian activities for the people are being carried out.
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6. Constitutional Law Shall Be Declared
The United States is currently under a Presidentially declared National State of Emergency(see below). Under this condition the Rights of people guaranteed by the Constitution are suspended. The new President Designee will cancel the National State of Emergency and the Constitution will be the law of the land once again. Much re-education of our lawyers, judges, and law enforcement people will need take place do to the restoration of the basic rights of the people.
The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
January 3, 2003
Notice: Continuation of the National Emergency with Respect to Libya On January 7, 1986, by Executive Order 12543, President Reagan declared a national emergency to deal with the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States constituted by the actions and policies of the Government of Libya. On January 8, 1986, by Executive Order 12544, the President took additional measures to block Libyan assets in the United States. The President has transmitted a notice continuing this emergency to the Congress and the Federal Register every year since 1986.
The crisis between the United States and Libya that led to the declaration of a national emergency on January 7, 1986, has not been resolved. Despite the United Nations Security Council's suspension of U.N. sanctions against Libya upon the Libyan government's handover of the Pan Am 103 bombing suspects, Libya has not yet complied with its obligations under U.N. Security Council Resolutions 731 (1992), 748 (1992), and 883 (1993), which include Libya's obligation to accept responsibility for the actions of its officials and pay compensation.
Therefore, in accordance with section 202(d) of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1622(d)), I am continuing for 1 year the national emergency with respect to Libya. This notice shall be published in the Federal Register and transmitted to the Congress.
GEORGE W. BUSH
THE WHITE HOUSE, January 2, 2003.
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7.Resignation of President, Vice President, and All Elected Representatives of Congress
The office of the President and Vice President shall be temporarily filled by designees who will function until a new election is held within 90-120 days from announcement.
These designees will be drawn from the Constitutional line of succession to the Presidency.
The present Elected Officials represent a continuation of the fraud and deception of the past. The most current example is the Presidential Notice of the Continuation of the National State of Emergency, (and Martial Law) dated January 3, 2003, by President Bush. In this document he Noticed both houses of congress and sent it to the Federal Registry for notice to the nation as a whole. This "Notice" extends President Reagan's National State of Emergency declared in 1986, for one more year. This procedure continues the suspension of the Constitution and the continuation of Martial Law. Martial Law forms the basis upon which the Executive branch and all of it's agencies, bureaus, services and administrations conducts business. Martial Law also forms the basis upon which the present Admiralty Judicial system with it's "color of Law" exist as well. The entire legal system and the law enforcement community will be retrained in Constitutional Law. The present form of Government is more like an Elected Monarchy where there exists no balance of power and the President rules by executive orders.
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8. New US Treasury Currency and Banks
The NESARA Law requires the US Treasury to issue new currency backed by precious metals (gold or silver). The exchange rate of Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) to US Treasury currency will be one to one. The White Knights have substantial amounts of Gold, more than enough to back the new currency at today's volume of FRNs in circulation. The new US Treasury paper currency bills are a different color for each denomination and have been dubbed "rainbow" currency. The Federal Reserve Banking system and many of it's employees will be absorbed into the Treasury Department. Certain Banks will become Treasury Banks and will be used to distribute the new Treasury currency. The minting of coins will continue to be controlled by the Treasury Dept.
The NESARA LAW creates a new set of Banking Laws that will introduce new and better ways for banks to make a profit. These banking laws will become international and will replace the present system. The International Monetary Fund banking system will be used for international banking transactions and will conform to the new banking laws. The US owns 51% of the IMF.
The White Knight economist will reestablish the price of most items to negate the past 70 years of inflation. Repricing schedules of 90% lower are expected. That means an item now costing $1.00 will have a new price of $.10 (ten cents). Wages and salaries will have a proportionate amount of changes as well. This devaluing will have the effect of raising our standard of living substantially. *For those who have cash savings, this will be a real windfall due to the fact that $1.00 cash pre-NESARA will then buy $10 worth of goods and services. (See Dove Reports dated 3-30-02, 11-4-02 and 12-17- 0 for Stock Price adjustments)
As a source of additional income for the Federal Government the NESARA Law establishes a National Sales Tax. The tax is expected to be around 14% on non-essential "NEW" items only; No tax on food; A new house will be taxed, an old one will not.
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9.The Federal Reserve Bank
The Federal Reserve Bank (FRB) will be declared Unconstitutional and the Act establishing it repealed. The FRB, a privately owned banking institution, was established illegally by a group of treasonous government officials and a group of international banking interests the largest of which is the House of Windsor Family of Great Britain. The FRB has virtually complete control of the monetary system of the United States of America. It creates money by simply printing it on a printing press and loans it to the Federal Government to spend. The Federal Government pays interest of 47 million dollars per day for the use of this fiat money (paper currency not backed by gold or silver). The Internal Revenue Service was established to collect and pay interest and principle to the FRB. The National Debt is OWED to the FRB. The establishment of the FRB came as a result of loans to the US Government being foreclosed on in 1933. The collateral for these foreclosed loans was the land of America and it's resources which included the people. The net result of the FRB issuing notes as legal tender instead of Constitutionally legal currency meant that a citizen could not "pay" a legal debt but could only "discharge" the debt. The international banking interests "own" all of our land, resources, and we the people. (The Yellow Stone National Park flies the flag of the United Nations.) They have done for decades and they will continue until NESARA is announced.


Does anyone else know about this secret law that was passed? I meant the exclamation mark in the title to be a question mark too!

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Wolf

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Old 10-27-2008, 01:54 AM   #2
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this sounds amazing oif its true.. how is this possibly going to get implemented??are these white nights the "white hats" that kerry and ben fullford always speak of???where did you read this law from, it sounds remarkably similar to ben fullfords take on possible events
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I have NO idea about Kerry and Bill or Benjamin Fulford! But I actually got the link from AVALON early this morning! Go here and search NESARA. Lots of info on this topic. I do remember a rumor a couple weeks ago about 20 top American military people being taken out too...sure hope it wasn't the White Knights!

http://www.fourwinds10.com/

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Old 10-27-2008, 07:58 AM   #4
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I've been reading about and hearing about this NESARA since the mid-1990s, at least a dozen years. I've known some people who have been waiting that long for it to happen. Old news, and it isn't going to happen, regardless of how true it may or may not be. The criminals who are robbing you also robbed your grandparents and they haven't given anyone a refund yet.
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Old 10-27-2008, 08:24 AM   #5
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I see NESERA as something not happening because it gives people hope to not do anything for themselves while they wait themselves to even more debt....These people should look take self responsibility and try to get out of the hole they dug themselves.Just my .02 cents worth.
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Sounds too good to be true and probably is.

And I don't think it will encourage MORE debt. I think it will allow people to live much better than they currently do.
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Old 10-27-2008, 10:57 AM   #7
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It's not happening at all...
http://nesara.org/main/status_of_the_bill.htm
"October 20, 2008: The bill has not been enacted into law, has not been introduced into Congress, and has not yet been assigned a tracking number."
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Do you know for a fact that this law is a "hoax?" I am interested in knowing if a farmer lawsuit supposedly went to the Supreme Court really happened or is a hoax. It would be fascinating if the scenario was actually true...that the U.S. Supreme Court had ruled in favor of the farmers, and then developed a solution to how America fell out of line with the U.S. Constitution. It would also explain the "real" reason behind 9-11 if Clinton HAD indeed been forced to sign the bill in 2000 and the new "economic system was to be installed the morning of the tragedy.

I would appreciate any solid information anyone might have about how this story developed, its source, any information on the court-ordered gags, etc. I am NOT interested in free money, the alien connection (if there is one), but am only try to discern fact from fiction. Obviously, these ideals are way too radical for any installed Congress to pass today UNLESS it had truly been ordered by the Supreme Court as the result of a HUGE decision stemming from the Supreme Court!

If the story was concocted as a hoax, then it is a tragedy that people have to lie and I always wonder what makes liars think they are any different from those in power. Using the same strategies for merely different goals is NOT the way to get our country back!

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Do you know for a fact that this law is a "hoax?"
No. It's impossible to affirm or deny much of what's on the net..or even for that matter in the news.
However, it would appear to be false as I can't find any mention of a bill or supreme court ruling.
Also here's wiki's stance- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESARA

Of course we know all too well about the bias present on wikipedia at times. That said the nesara.us site now simply has a domain ad-spam holding page.

If it was for real then it's been well and truly canned that much is for sure
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I see NESERA as something not happening because it gives people hope to not do anything for themselves while they wait themselves to even more debt....These people should look take self responsibility and try to get out of the hole they dug themselves.Just my .02 cents worth.
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We are all going to die in the next 3 years
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Here's the "real" site.

http://nesara.org/main/index.htm

http://nesara.org/articles/the_real_nesara.htm
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http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/n/nesara.htm here is a site that dismisses it. I also cannot find a bill number assigned to it which would be a requirement. Ron Paul also dismissed it as a hoax. Still we can keep looking. It is up for proposal but very doubtful it would be passed as it could help people who are in debt severally come out from under it. IMO it is doubtful the existing government would do such a grand thing to help main street.
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We are all going to die in the next 3 years
A bit off topic, but only if we create that reality for ourselves.

I generally try to avoid the doom and gloom stuff and disassociate myself with people who are too caught up in their own negativity.
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Old 10-28-2008, 12:28 PM   #15
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http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/n/nesara.htm here is a site that dismisses it. I also cannot find a bill number assigned to it which would be a requirement. Ron Paul also dismissed it as a hoax. Still we can keep looking. It is up for proposal but very doubtful it would be passed as it could help people who are in debt severally come out from under it. IMO it is doubtful the existing government would do such a grand thing to help main street.
Ron Paul, the savior of many on here, has dismissed it?

Geez, I thought he'd be a champion of it since it abolishes the Federal Reserve (which actually makes sense to me to do).
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Old 10-28-2008, 01:18 PM   #16
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Exclamation Re: What is REALLY happening in the world! Germany ...

Yesterdays demonstration in Frankfurt: Attac activists

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTWVoxrtvJw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4D6VCjx26A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p20RkWK1vtA

To me it is pure fun, why worry. Great times!

Volkswagen share rose to over 200%. The market is really getting crazy!


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Old 10-31-2008, 04:44 AM   #17
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I got the impression from the post that RON PAUL did not "dismiss NESARA" as being a "bad idea" -- The poster meant that NESARA is a HOAX, and it was never passed.
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