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Old 03-09-2010, 04:50 PM   #601
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but it sure would be nice if those of you who perceive this material to be "evil, dangerous, unworthy" or whatever would AT LEAST talk respectfully to those of us who (using our own God-given powers of discernment) fail to see the same devils and demons in it and Abraxas as you do.

I Love You All, my sisters and brothers. dragon-lovers and haters alike!

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Respect goes both ways...


Do you belive the lack of respect has been only projected towards abrax and his friends?

Do you belive it is possible that people have the worng perceptions of the truth? Should they be villified for this?
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Respect goes both ways...


Do you belive the lack of respect has been only projected towards abrax and his friends?

Do you belive it is possible that people have the worng perceptions of the truth? Should they be villified for this?
I am not a dragon lover....or a guy with no feelings

I really don't want to see Abrax come back....but

I have a need for justice...

Richard should not have acted without the consensus of ALL moderators as it was a volatile issue to start

You (Celine) and Richard were quite vocal in your dislike of Abrax and that more than public display has sparked all you see here

It was wrong for Richard to spearhead the banning

His head was not neutral...and neither is yours

If someone was hurt or offended.....It could have been taken care of

I want no one hurt...there is too much of that in the world

Maybe Abrax needed to be banned....But Richard should not have been involved

I am no one...listen if you will

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Lots to say huh...well this thread has degenerated....
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Old 03-09-2010, 05:31 PM   #608
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We simply select different perspectives, or ways of viewing, from one another. Neither is right and neither is wrong. They are both right and they are both wrong. It's all a matter of perspective.
As beings we are able to take as many viewpoints as we want . The more viewpoints we can take the smoother life is .
The point of view we can't take is the limit we set in our own space reducing therefore our freedom and hence the other's freedom too .
Things are becoming uneasy when we get stuck in our points of view so badly that we feel then the need to defend them so strongly that we make others wrong to assert our " rightness " .
People have been burned on a stake for this and wars are fought daily .
I agree with you My Planet2 there is neither right nor wrong in opposition. These concepts arise in the context of rules that some have established where what is right for one may be wrong for the other .
The truth therein is a relative one and yes as you say a matter of perspective.
Therefore we can only turn within to our own truth.. the truth that we are as a being outside the set patterns and bounderies of mental concepts .
There we can find we are one and equal with every other being and judgement no longer exists in terms of right and wrong for we have transcended all dual mechanisms and are now in our Heart. And there lies real freedom . Not something to fight for but a natural state of being when we come to realize we are the observer and there is only Now.
From that place dialogue can take place and peace shared by all .

On Freedom
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At the city gate and by your fireside I have seen you prostrate yourself and worship your own freedom,
Even as slaves humble themselves before a tyrant and praise him though he slays them.
Ay, in the grove of the temple and in the shadow of the citadel I have seen the freest among you wear their freedom as a yoke and a handcuff.
And my heart bled within me; for you can only be free when even the desire of seeking freedom becomes a harness to you, and when you cease to speak of freedom as a goal and a fulfilment.

You shall be free indeed when your days are not without a care nor your nights without a want and a grief,
But rather when these things girdle your life and yet you rise above them naked and unbound.


And how shall you rise beyond your days and nights unless you break the chains which you at the dawn of your understanding have fastened around your noon hour?
In truth that which you call freedom is the strongest of these chains, though its links glitter in the sun and dazzle your eyes.


And what is it but fragments of your own self you would discard that you may become free?
If it is an unjust law you would abolish, that law was written with your own hand upon your own forehead.
You cannot erase it by burning your law books nor by washing the foreheads of your judges, though you pour the sea upon them.
And if it is a despot you would dethrone, see first that his throne erected within you is destroyed.
For how can a tyrant rule the free and the proud, but for a tyranny in their own freedom and a shame in their own pride?
And if it is a care you would cast off, that care has been chosen by you rather than imposed upon you.
And if it is a fear you would dispel, the seat of that fear is in your heart and not in the hand of the feared.

Verily all things move within your being in constant half embrace, the desired and the dreaded, the repugnant and the cherished, the pursued and that which you would escape.
These things move within you as lights and shadows in pairs that cling.
And when the shadow fades and is no more, the light that lingers becomes a shadow to another light.
And thus your freedom when it loses its fetters becomes itself the fetter of a greater freedom.

Peace to all
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.....I have mentioned before .....Project Avalon community is about community building in green technologies and spiritual acceptance that every being has validity...........THEREFORE,such old world ways of harrassment of any kind is going to be discouraged......

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Old 03-09-2010, 05:57 PM   #610
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Wow leave it to a Hippi to come up with such a cool non-confrontational way to say Trinity...
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:00 PM   #611
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.....I have mentioned before .....Project Avalon community is about community building in green technologies and spiritual acceptance that every being has validity...........THEREFORE,such old world ways of harrassment of any kind is going to be discouraged......

In Much Light!
By that I hope you mean no finger pointing with accuasions of
"he visited me"
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:08 PM   #612
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.....I have mentioned before .....Project Avalon community is about community building in green technologies and spiritual acceptance that every being has validity...........THEREFORE,such old world ways of harrassment of any kind is going to be discouraged......

In Much Light!

For once I agree 100%.

Samarkis we are exactly at the pin point of whole future of the universe.
Things that we discuss here and now are of most importance since they are talking of a core of existence.

Tomorrow we will build wonderful things ,never seen before,since we are Creator's kin. But today we simply can not because our heart and soul are not balanced .
Still many stream for power and lust.
Money and whatever you might imagine.
We can not handle the tomorrow if our being is not right today.

Would anyone give money to his 5 year old and said -go buy me a beer-
Or would you allow your child of three years old to play with open wires where 220 Volts are streaming?

No one sane would do that.

That is the same situation with all of us.
We are not ready for tomorrow . We are still kids in a sort of way.

Reality is that we are being fought bitterly by evil entities from vastness of the space, our own evil thoughts, our own non perfection, our own greed and evil.

All in order to stop us on our path to re claim what is ours- Children of the Almighty.

I say again NEVER EVER underestimate our enemies, may them be all that I wrote above.
For every person there are several levels of battles and enemies to fight.
Some think that that is illusion, well I would say -good morning and welcome to the reality where everything is being used against you.
Every possible weapon or thing is used against us as humans to stop and enslave us forever.


That is why I am here in between things happening in my private life and private struggles I have, to shed a little light so that maybe someone could be a bit inspired to do something in his/hers life for the better.

I do not have all answers, only the Creator has it.

I would believe him rather than every other person in the universe including myself.
Who am I?
Just a man on Earth living and searching for tomorrow. A better tomorrow, everlasting one in love, peace and harmony.
I see that I am nobody and do not have all knowledge, so I wish to learn from one that created all.

Love and blessings,

Beren

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Old 03-09-2010, 06:23 PM   #613
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I hope I made myself clear there as I had no intention of defending the idea that the accusers should be exposed if the accusations were truthful. 93 93/93
Love is the Law, Love under Will
However, if the accusers were NOT being truthful,
and, the accusations were false ~
in our opinion, they should be eXposed

pa/pc is about the search for true, real truth !!!

love is the law, and, this type of action, under the will of a few
affected many, and, with that said,
the truth, is the truth, and, it is, already well known

perhaps - it might stop a few others,
from doing these types of hateful, malicious, and, spiteful things

if it, was your own good name,
you could NOT defend, how would you feel ???

there is much power, in the mode of silence

and, the other accusations
that he attacked others, are, false

you are the captain, of your 'own' ship
and, it is, by a poor choices of alignments/and, allowances
this situation/or, the other situations
turn into what they did

there are big risks, in the search for truth

however, the biggest truth, is always the same

it is your choice-to be truth, and, to eXpress truth

and, if you can NOT do that, you are NOT in integrity

intregrity - is the most important virtue you have

the worst karma you can gather ~ is saying something
you know is false, in order, to protect, your own behind
and, trying to make someone else,
take your guilt !!!

people might remember you for what you have done,
however, people will always remember you,
for the way, in which, you made them feel

we don't think anyone would enjoy standing in the shoes of tony/A
being innocent, and, having it publically shouted from the rooftops
that he did something awful/horrific/or shameful

and, then have a whole pile more people

add, false logs, to the same fire

YOU are always able to make your own choices
and, if you are NOT
you had better very carefully eXamine
the state of your own affairs,
before you start a process,
of blending your energies/your own divine rights
and, your sacredness, with any others

if you are NOT 100% sure, it is in total alignment with you, all of you

It is pitiful, and, also shameful,
that many people made choices
to toss 'false' logs on the fire

also too, the size of any man/or any woman
is the size, of the thing, it takes, to get their goat

an 'ego' in the 'negative' pole is a very 'sorry' thing

perhaps, it might be best, to look at how we view
how we aid/assist/and, help our real brothers/and, real sisters
at this time

full disclosure, is, what PA/PC stands for

you can NOT go around,
accusing people falsely,
and, think, that it is NOT you,
who should be on 'the hook'

you-should be eXposed

just to see, how it might feel

falsely accused, is NOT the issue

falsely accusing iS !!!


iT iS a time, for truth, real truth !!!
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:31 PM   #614
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ask/ask/ask for your missions/purposes/and, tasks

if you learn to listen, you will hear them
direct from your own source
of your higher self/essence and monad
Many times have I tried this and got a sense that something is trying to get through but I am not receiving it. Or there is absolutely nothing there. Occasionally I get an answer.

I generally take the silence to mean either there is no 'correct' answer or I am to do nothing. ie. sit and wait, watch and learn.

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However, if the accusers were NOT being truthful,
and, the accusations were false ~
in our opinion, they should be eXposed
Exactly one of the points I was trying to make

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Old 03-09-2010, 06:46 PM   #616
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I am not a dragon lover....or a guy with no feelings

I really don't want to see Abrax come back....but

I have a need for justice...

Richard should not have acted without the consensus of ALL moderators as it was a volatile issue to start

You (Celine) and Richard were quite vocal in your dislike of Abrax and that more than public display has sparked all you see here

It was wrong for Richard to spearhead the banning

His head was not neutral...and neither is yours

If someone was hurt or offended.....It could have been taken care of

I want no one hurt...there is too much of that in the world

Maybe Abrax needed to be banned....But Richard should not have been involved

I am no one...listen if you will
Well i think lots of this could have been avoided if the above were taken into consideration.... however.... it did not go down like that.... Mods are very human it seems... so... shall we try and move on... noone is going to forget what happened.... so lets just hang on.... don't forget... dragons need lovin too

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Old 03-09-2010, 06:48 PM   #617
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Celine--

NO, dear sister, i AM NOT saying that those of us "in tune" with Abraxas have been the only ones disrespected. Mean words and accusations have flown on this thread AND on the original Q&A thread as well -- ugliness and unlovingness came from BOTH sides ..... i totally agree with you. And for any of the times i may have inadvertently hurt yours or anyone else's feelings, I do hereby apologize to you. i haven't felt that was ever my intention, but i DO admit to feeling defensive for myself at times during this "crisis," so perhaps i was "mean" without recognizing it in myself. If so, as i said, i am sincerely sorry.


eXchanger--

Thank you for all your wise and light-filled words. you are so DEPENDABLE always to "bring-us-back-'round!"


/Rocky Shorz--

I really appreciate the compliment on my "complimentary close." LOL i have to admit ..... i AM proud of being an old hippie!


Mudra--

Thank you, as always, for your loveliness and your God-given talent for gifting us with words of peace, love and harmony. And your words, in combination with those of Kahil Gibran today, simply healed my distress and made my spirit soar!


To each of you and ALL my sisters and brothers here -- SHALOM.

love,
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Many times have I tried this and got a sense that something is trying to get through but I am not receiving it. Or there is absolutely nothing there. Occasionally I get an answer.

I generally take the silence to mean either there is no 'correct' answer or I am to do nothing. ie. sit and wait, watch and learn.

93 93/93
Love is the Law, Love under Will
much of the marvel/or, the splender of strong
higher self / essence / and, monad connection
iS eXactly that the bliss, of the silence ~ of all that iS

where words, NEED not be said

you are very connected, in those times

that is the first of one of many steps/and,
that will lead you down a road, to true discovery of yourself
someone can NOT show you,
anyone, than someone can NOT do it for you,
they can attempt, their best
to start a process to describe it to you,
all roads, might NOT be the same for each, and, everyone

there are 101 roads up the mountain-or, into the valley
of whatever, it iS
that you do, to create your own 'safe' space
and, then, eXpand out of there

the options to you, are ever eXpanding

we are all inter dimensional, and, multi dimensional
and, density beings,

this world is full of people, with many answers

you can try them on, and, take what fits

then simply, discard the rest

YOU ALREADY KNOW within the 'length,width, and, depth' of yourself

all the secrets - just ask/ask/ask, for them to be revealed to you

will it to be, so, it will be, and, so it is
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much of the marvel/or, the splender of strong
higher self / essence / and, monad connection
iS eXactly that the bliss, of the silence ~ of all that iS

where words, NEED not be said
That is very true

I think the biggest lesson I have learnt over the last 10 years or so is patience.

Things will occur when I'm ready and not before.

In the past I have often wondered if I'm 'doing it right' and got impatient, and sure enough, the impatience breaks any connection.

I know the method that works for me now and sit patiently and see what occurs. With city life the silence is most welcome at times.
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Logic!
Are you a Vulcan?
Well I do have sharp ears, but they aren't pointed...

your third eyes gives vision into dimensions beyond the present...

wait until you get your 3rd ear so you can hear...
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For the sake of this post, I am going to do a channeling here for you today. The one I channel is called HIDDENFOOT.




ooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmm thump thump thump


Greetings everyone, and you too MP2,

Talk about taking a place at a table. Council of Thuban. Here's some Chinese English for ya;

Myplanet2
Eleni
Spregovori
Uncle John
TheExchanger
Hippihillbobbi
Anchor
Bigmo
Sabrina
Truthseeker
Jonah
Ross

And I swear I saw Jonah and Ross also in this list last night. That is 4 MODS plus an X-MOD with a total of 5 in MODNESS. How come SteveX isn't on the list? Does he play Igore in this group? And here is Richard taking the blunt of it as if there are no other Mods available. That's not hard to figure out is it? You don't need Universal math on that ine because a lot of these MOds are right here. Duh!

And all one has to do is track the behavioral changes. Has anyone notice the 180's with some of these members? I have. I also don't think this group as it is called, is closed for business.

Who was it that said there were lies on every level? Talk about two face manure going down here at this forum and what do I see here?

You folks up here in this list really think you have it down, don't you? For instance someone being used as a victim on top of being a victim just to hide your own victimhood. Talk about an exchanger of such energies, you are certainly a Pro at it Susan. This is all bringing back memories of the old Batman series. You know where you got the Joker, Penguin, and the Riddler. Except in this version we have the Exchanger. Not to defend Celine here, but when are you going to put your laundry on the table for everyone to see? At least Celine has been honest about it. But you on the Hiddenhand can only deflect your pain onto someone else with your rhetoric. It isn't even your rhetoric. It is from someone else. I have only one question. Where is the real Susan, because this version is a hijacked version. This isn't the Susan everyone use to know.

Same thing could be said of Anchor. You know the guy that when he emailed you or posted something behind your posts, he would always leave you with that RAM IT HOME feeling. Everyone following so far? Where did that Anchor go? Here comes this ABrax and the next thing you know, Anchor is no longer a MOd.

Spreg I thought was pretty cool and I always listened to what he had to say because he spoke form a heart. Where did he go? Where did his heart go? He went ranting down the street because he wasn't being acknowledged.

I can't say much about Bigmo. He just doesn't like it when a car pulls up and blocks his view. Ask Mntrutherseeker about that. If you wanted directions, he wouldn't give you any.He just doesn't know.

Holy Bat Droppings is all I can say. How many pieces do you have? Are they importing more from Alpha Draconis?

And the star of the show is really a none factor. With a name like MAnic Man all you will experience from him is just a bunch of steaming rantings of why you shouldn't pray for him.

But in all seriousness, these people have been compromised but they just don't know it. They are just here to trample over your Free agency by abusing theirs. They are the new gatekeepers to the door that was opened here. They have no authority whatsoever over this Planet. And that is why some have been targeted. If you remove the authority that says you are not allowed to come here under any circumstance so that you can have your way with this world, then they can then come in and take over. Simple laws of possession apply here in whatever form. And they damn sure don't want you to know about that. If you look at the root currents of what makes these Reptilians tick it is always about what they can dominate. You can track it even through the history of our world here, online.

Why do you think Manic Man hates my take on things? It isn't my take to begin with and I am only reporting from my field work and they don't want you to know what is going on in the field. Because that would reveal their agenda in these latter days. That agenda only leads to domination. Domination over this Planet. I know for a fact, that if we do not allow them dominion over this world, they are willing to destroy it all costs. Wrap your head around that. As I have said I have been searching for a peaceful solution, but that is not what they want simply because we the human race are considered cattle to them. We are a sub race that in their minds is to serve them. And what they fear is that we are waking up and self realizing our sovereignty and they know we are more powerful than them. They fear losing the control over us. I am not saying anything new here. It is something that you can track and verify. Now if you take all of Manic Man's postings as to how I shouldn't say this or that and then only accept his reality of being a mouse because that is the easiest way to hide as the coward, maybe that will cause you to take note. I am not here for some popularity contest. But if you can also see the anger of that coming through as to why I shouldn't say this or that, then he is certainly hiding something from all of us. He isn't what he appears to be. Watch him dance and you will see for yourself. But whatever I am saying is sure wizzing him off and I don't recall directing it towards him in the past. It is only when you see it for yourself then things start to make better sense as to how far the rabbit hole goes down. All I can do is bring it to your awareness. At the same time I don't want you to believe. But just know the possibility of whatever, does exist. If it can be thought of, it exist somewhere. It is your job to prove to your self.

No offense to any of these members, but you sure have really done a mind screwing on many here even though some of you haven't been fully integrated yet in what you have chosen to subscribe to. Jonah and Ross, I don't get why you find yourselves here, but you are here. The listing changes according to your software that I don't have any control over. Add Raven to the list. I guess if you sign on then you mysteriously appear. Or someone on the outside has hacked into your sever and is playing games once again.If you aren't part of this council then say so. It is also the list provided by Avalon. It isn't mine. It is also the property of Avalon now. Wrap your head around that. Thump thump

This is Hiddenfoot signing off and wishing a great day to all with Blessings for everyone. Thump Thump Thump
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Old 03-09-2010, 08:04 PM   #624
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Lionhawk, I like the channeling of HIDDENFOOT he seems to be on the ball

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Old 03-09-2010, 08:11 PM   #625
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Wow... Behavioral changes = must be possessed

ok.. for a second there i thought i was human... but since i can chalk up my willingness to change my beliefs to being possessed...

well i guess u can add some more names to your list...
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