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Old 03-07-2010, 08:36 PM   #251
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I think I may have seen my first UFO's just a couple of nights ago. I first saw a slowly moving pinpoint of light which suddenly became quite bright...and then disappeared. Then I saw several very faint pinpoints of light moving erratically...in a manner which no conventional fighter could do. I thought I saw a couple of small flashes...but I'm not sure. Could this have been a UFO dogfight? Someone commented in the last couple of days that they had noticed a marked increase in military helicopter activity in this general area. Hmmmmm. I was jumpy enough to wonder if my call for a Solar System Exorcism and the establishment of the United States of the Solar System was the reason for the 'UFO dogfight' and the deletion of all of the abraxasinas threads (including my own 'Thuban Thoughts' thread). That sighting...plus recent occurrances on Avalon have really spooked me. I have quite the vivid imagination...and it has been running wild during the past couple of days. I've imagined all manner of Star Wars.

There may very well be good reasons to put a stop to certain activities...for legal and ethical reasons...but the abraxasinas threads may contain valuable information of historical, contemporary, and future value. I find pulling all of the abraxasinas and Thuban material http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=20721 to be very curious. I did not identify with or subscribe to the Thuban material...but I smell a rat. I'm sorry...but why can't the objectionable and legally problematic posts be removed (and safely stored)? This site has gone down so many times...that I suspect foul-play and powerful plug-pulling. I'm not mad...I just wished to place this point of view on the record. There needs to be a way to access the abraxasinas and Thuban material...even if it's complete BS...and abraxasinas is the most unsavory character imaginable. It may have great research value. If abraxasinas was in the process of turning from darkness to light...and was beginning to expose the darkside...this material takes on even greater value. I made a couple of pointed posts on the abraxasinas thread...and abraxasinas did not respond to the second one...which was the most intense. Then...last night I thought I saw the very brief UFO dogfight (my first sighting - and I'm not sure what I saw - or thought I saw). I felt sick. Now I feel even sicker. I wished to attempt a cordial and friendly conversation with abraxasinas...but now I can't. Nobody can. Again...I hope that the reasons for this action are as stated...and that they are not being imposed by alphabet agencies or underground bases. I was hoping for improved relations with the Thubans. How about "Live...from the Thuban Mehta Center for the Performing Arts in Alpha Draconis...it's 'Christmas With the Thubans'...with a special appearance by 'The Groovin Thubins'! My goodness...haven't we all come a long way from the dark days of the Thuban Missile Crisis??!!"

Now...back to your regularly scheduled program. Stay in your homes. Everything is fine.

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Old 03-08-2010, 05:38 AM   #252
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I'm trying to settle-down regarding the United States of the Solar System. I like the idea more and more...but I don't want to be a crusader or a cultist. I'd really just lke to see other people run with the material in this thread...and add their own take to it. I just wish to apply enough heat to start the fire! Right now...I think I want to spend a lot of time reviewing everything in the 50 threads I have started on this site...and just sort of let it all sink-in. I also want to be a U.N. watcher, and a City-State watcher. It might be kinda cool to be a shuttle-diplomat between the key factions in the Solar System...Human and Non-Human...travelling throughout the Solar System...each and every day...trying to hammer out the details of the United States of the Solar System...in such a manner that no one gets $crewed! The problem is...no one would respect me...and they'd all probably hate me! I guess I'll just keep dreaming and blogging. Born to blog! I'm also going to spend more time with CSPAN and Bloomberg. I will spend even more time in nature. I think I'm going to buy a 10" Dobsonian telescope to look at the Solar System! I don't want to spend my time complaining and crusading...or creating a cult!

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Old 03-08-2010, 09:39 PM   #253
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Here is a thread by Carol which is relevant to this thread. It's called 'Dwarf Sun Beyond Pluto". http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20771 Should Nibiru or Planet X be a part of the United States of the Solar System?

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Old 03-10-2010, 06:27 PM   #254
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What do you think about the 'Universal Declaration of Human Rights' penned by Eleanor Roosevelt...and adopted by the United Nations in 1948? http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/ Should it supercede the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights? Should it be included in the United States of the Solar System? I agree with a lot of it...but it seems to go too far...and is somewhat socialistic in nature. I have the same goals, pretty much...but I envision a different route to achieving these goals. This document should not supercede the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...and should not be included in the United States of the Solar System. I'm willing to keep thinking about this...and change my mind if a brutal gang of facts mugs me on some dark philosophical or political alley! Here is a condensed version I made for easy reading:

THE UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS

Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,

Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,

Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,

Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,

Whereas the peoples of the United Nations have in the Charter reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,

Whereas Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United Nations, the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms,

Whereas a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realization of this pledge,

Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.

Article 1. All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

Article 2. Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 3. Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

Article 4. No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

Article 5. No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

Article 6. Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

Article 7. All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

Article 8. Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

Article 9. No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

Article 10. Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

Article 11. (1) Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence. (2) No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.

Article 12. No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

Article 13. (1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state. (2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

Article 14. (1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution. (2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

Article 15. (1) Everyone has the right to a nationality. (2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.

Article 16. (1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses. (3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

Article 17. (1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others. (2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

Article 18. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

Article 19. Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

Article 20. (1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association. (2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

Article 21. (1) Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives. (2) Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country. (3) The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

Article 22. Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

Article 23. (1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment. (2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work. (3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection. (4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

Article 24. Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.

Article 25. (1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
(2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

Article 26. (1) Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit. (2) Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace. (3) Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

Article 27. (1) Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits. (2) Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.

Article 28. Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.

Article 29. (1) Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible. (2) In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society. (3) These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

Article 30. Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

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Old 03-17-2010, 04:50 PM   #255
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I'm not a beggar. If a reasonable proposal is made...reasonable questions are asked...in a polite and reasonable manner...and there is a stone wall of silence in response...I will not persist. In fact...it may be a good thing if the New World Order Theocracy is imposed...so that everyone will experience it's horrors...and hopefully learn an ageless lesson. Perhaps then the concept of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom will finally make sense to humanity. This is simple common sense...but seemingly common sense is uncommon...which may be why Earth is seemingly under quarantine. I probably will not participate in Avalon 2. My experiment here in the Avalab may be drawing to a close. I will continue to fantasize about what might have been...but my thoughts will mostly be sad.
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Old 03-19-2010, 09:53 PM   #256
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You know...I really like this thread...but I'm gonna give this thing a rest. So many things start out great...and then go downhill. I'd really rather have a bunch of people...throughout the world...give this some serious thought and study...and then do something with it. This should be a leaderless movement. I want to give this some time to sink in. I'm going to read and re-read the 'Federalist Papers' and the Teachings of Jesus. I don't wish to hit people over the head with this stuff. This will just sort of evolve...I think. We don't need more people running around with megaphones and signs. I really want this to be a silent revolution...and preferably from the top down. No running in the streets. I don't want to make people scared or angry. I may have completed my part in all of this. This stuff isn't original. I didn't come up with it. I listened to people like Bill Cooper, Bill Still, Alex Collier, Alex Jones, Robert H. Schuller, Ellen White, Norman Vincent Peale, John F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, Ron Paul, Jordan Maxwell, Sherry Shriner, Bill Ryan, Kerry Cassidy, the Avalon Forum Members...and on and on and on and on. Sometimes a person needs to speak up...and then shut up. It may be time for me to shut up. The Avalon changes are helping me to make this decision. I don't know what just happened...but it seems like some sort of a Spiritual Armageddon. The last few months have been very strange. I need to digest everything. I'm getting a big telescope...and I plan on spending a lot of time looking at the planets and moons of this Solar System. I don't know what's going to happen to us. It could be good...or it could be horrible. I really don't know. But please do a lot of research on a lot of widely varying topics...not just the sensational or spooky ones. Please don't experiment with the supernatural. I think this is a haunted planet...and if you delve into the supernatural...I fear that you will get your fingers burned...right up to your armpits. AND DON'T GET ON A UFO!!!!

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Old 03-22-2010, 04:25 PM   #257
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I sometimes wonder if all of the people should vote on a daily basis. With the advent of the internet...do we really need representatives to think for us? I've been pushing the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights a lot...but within that general framework of government...should the people represent themselves rather than electing representatives who represent corrupt special interests...rather than the people who elected them? Are we the irresponsible delegating authority to the even more irresponsible...who we then blame for being irresponsible? Should the elected representatives make their case on the internet...and then let we the people vote? That would solve that pesky money corruption problem...wouldn't it? How should I modify the founding documents of the United States of the Solar System to reflect this? Should representatives have to abide by the will of the people? I think so.

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Are Interdimensional Draconian Reptilian Beings and Perfectly Possessed Human Beings playing God? Be very careful how you define 'God'...and be even more careful who you worship, praise, obey, and submit to. Does 'One Nation Under God' not imply a theocracy? Is the United States of America really a theocracy? What if the harsh reality is that we are really dealing with 'One Nation Under Satan'? Don't dismiss these questions by assuming that I'm just a bitter atheistic rebel. I am not. I just want a Solar System Exorcism...to remove all demonic influences from Earth...and from the rest of the Solar System. I fear that we live in a Haunted Planet...and that many of the Powers That Be Are Dealing With the Devil.

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OK...I just made a modification to Article 1, Section 1 of the Founding Documents of the United States of the Solar System. Note the following:

We the People of the United States of the Solar System, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of the Solar System.

Article 1.

Section 1
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States of the Solar System, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives. All Elected Representatives of We the People of the United States of the Solar System shall vote according to the Will of the People as Recorded Daily by Internet Voting.

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Even if you completely disagree with my approach to this subject...PLEASE think long and hard about Earth and Solar System Governance. Perhaps my proposed details are up for grabs. I'm not an expert on anything. But could Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom be very close to an absolute meeting place for the people of the world? This is the time to really think this through. I'm just trying to stimulate thought. Once again...I am not promoting 'America'...which has gotten a rather bad reputation over the past few decades. Please carefully consider this thread in it's entirety. This really is a global issue. I don't need to be right. I don't want anything out of this. I just want to help start a fire...and then get out of the way...and let the people of the world rule the people of the world. My including the entire Solar System is not conquest motivated. I fear that this Solar System contains incredible evil within most of it's planets and moons. I just fear that we are all in huge trouble. I just want things to mellow out into some semblance of normalcy. Please take the gloves off...and get serious about Human Sovereignty, Personal Responsibility, and Solar System Governance. I am very fearful, at this point. The window of opportunity to save ourselves may be very small and fleeting. If we screw this up...we may not have another chance to get this right...for a long, long time...if ever. Again...I may be completely wrong...but I think that I am absolutely correct in calling attention to Solar System Governance. Please don't neglect this subject. I especially desire that this subject be debated in universities throughout the world. This is serious business. Take this very seriously.

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Even if you completely disagree with my approach to this subject....... Take this very seriously.

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Ortho, no harm to you bro, but i really can't take this seriously, the journey I am on has no need for constitutions, and I don't want to give any energy to the work of lawyers, ffs you have already amended it, can you imagine what will happen when some of them wall street guys get their hands on it.

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Ortho, no harm to you bro, but i really can't take this seriously, the journey I am on has no need for constitutions, and I don't want to give any energy to the work of lawyers, ffs you have already amended it, can you imagine what will happen when some of them wall street guys get their hands on it.

Good journey to you wherever you end up
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The free spirits who have no need for constitutions or solidified central principles and concepts will head happily down the yellow brick road...and will get in each other's way...argue and fight...and end up in tyranny via anarchy. I'm an idealist...but I'm also a pragmatist. The guidelines I envision are about as minimalist as possible. I fear that we are heading into a hellish midnight...without a clue...and I doubt that we will learn a damn thing from our descent into a New Dark Ages. We will emerge just as stupid as before. This thread is all about simplification and streamlining...so as to unite humanity in a non-coercive and non-violent manner...without gods, goddesses, or dictators of any kind...sacred or secular...human or non-human.

I'm not going to push this. I'm going to surf the internet...and study the Solar System from all possible angles. I really want to make this a private voyage. I'm buying a big telescope...and I'm reading a couple of relevant books. I'm going to stop preaching...and start practicing. I'm already using my imagination to generate mental voyages to the planets...where I meet with all manner of beings...in all types of situations. I am nurturing a Solar System View rather than a World View. I like my little Dream Solar System. Everyone is so nice. I tried listening to Alex Jones today...but the anger and negativity is non-stop. I agree with him...but I just can't take it. I need to heal. I've pretty much given up on most of my dreams. A boy is no longer a boy...but a man...when the first of his dreams is dead. But there's not much left to do...but bury a man...when the last of his dreams is dead. Well...I'm a shelluva guy...and I'll just have to go with the flow. At this point...I'd rather switch than fight...but I do know the difference between right and wrong...and like Starbuck...in Battlestar Galactica...I'm laying on the floor shouting "We're Going the Wrong Way!"

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Consider what Anna Hayes said in 2000 regarding Illuminati agreements with alien races: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUh68...eature=related This sort of thing is horrifying to me. I don't have a problem with interacting with other races in the universe...but it seems that we have been cutting deals with the bad-guys...and have been getting our butts kicked. It seems to me that powerful and corrupt humans thought they could out-smart alien and demonic beings...but found out the hard way that they couldn't...and all of us are paying dearly. Look for escape clauses people. I still want that Solar System Exorcism. If it hasn't already started...this would probably be a good time to commence taking out the trash. Seriously. Is this what the Gulf of Aden is all about? Something is a brewing. Hmmmmm.

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The following is a condensed rewrite of the Declaration of Human Rights...with special application to the United States of the Solar System. Should this be included in the preamble? I sort of like the idea of including it in a non-binding and and non-authoritative manner. Would this even be possible? I've jumped the gun...and included the following in the Preamble:

Recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world. Disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people. It is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law. It is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations. We the people of the United States of the Solar System have reaffirmed our faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom. Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United States of the Solar System the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms. A common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance.

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...in the context of The United States of the Solar System...is a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping these principles, concepts, and documents constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance among the peoples of Member States.

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood. Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms inherent in the United States of the Solar System, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, territorial or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political or jurisdictional status of the territory to which a person belongs.

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person. No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms. No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law. All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination. Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile. Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him. Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence. No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks. Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state. Everyone has the right to leave any territory, and to return. Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other territories asylum from persecution. This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United States of the Solar System. Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution. Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses. The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance. Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association. No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives. Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country. The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment. Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work. Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection. Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests. Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay. Everyone has the right to work to achieve a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control. Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit. Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United States of the Solar System for the maintenance of peace. Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits. Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author. Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible. In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society. These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United States of the Solar System.

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Has anyone out there in cyberspace taken a good look at this thread in it's entirety? I'd love to see a point by point critique...even a scathing one. I had really hoped to get into a detailed discussion or debate regarding all of this. Hope springs eternal...but this forum is on the verge of going to read-only...so an interaction will not be possible in the very near future. I hope someone...human or otherwise...is thinking this thing through. I'm just scratching the surface of the subject...which is in dire need of further study. What would Alexander Hamilton say? What would James Madison say? What would John Jay say? Maybe they would write the Solar System Papers.

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I sometimes wonder if all of the people should vote on a daily basis. With the advent of the internet...do we really need representatives to think for us? I've been pushing the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights a lot...but within that general framework of government...should the people represent themselves rather than electing representatives who represent corrupt special interests...rather than the people who elected them? Are we the irresponsible delegating authority to the even more irresponsible...who we then blame for being irresponsible? Should the elected representatives make their case on the internet...and then let we the people vote? That would solve that pesky money corruption problem...wouldn't it? How should I modify the founding documents of the United States of the Solar System to reflect this? Should representatives have to abide by the will of the people? I think so.

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Orthodoxymoron,

This really resonated with me because I also don't get the idea of us needing to vote for someone else to speak for us. The technology is available today through internet and with a social network platform as a foundation it wouldn't be a problem to create a worldwide system to allow each and everyone of us to take an active part in the descision making on a grand scale. Even if there are people who thinks it's to much work to decide for themselves, I still believe it's a lot better to have people that are on the same level as everyone else to make the descisions. I think that a hundred or a thousand people in a community of a hundred thousand will make better choices and decisions for the community than a handfull elected politicians will ever do.

Wouldn't it be great if we, the people, were in control of everything that has to do with us. I'd like to control where every penny of my taxes goes (as long as we have money). I'm a grown up and don't need anyone to babysit me and make descisions over my head. I'm also convinced that no one in this universe knows better what I need than I. I believe everyone is their own GOD and should be treated as that in every possible, imaginable way. I never have the right to tell someone else what is best for him or her. Some spiritual teaching might be in order for a few before they realise their potential and believe in themselves enough to make their own descisions, but we are all capable of doing that, there's just a tiny bit of programming in the way.

Think of a system that is totally open and where there are no secrets. Secrets are for those who believes they are are better than others and don't want others to reach the same level that they themselves think they have reached.

I've actually created a thread about a system that would support all humans to be sovereign in their individuality and where everyone are equal. If you are interested, please check out the thread and the external site I've created to try to present the idea. I hope it's inspiring.

Page: http://www.the2012alliance.com
Thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...t=19775&page=1


Let's go out there and manifest our dreams!
With LOVE and APPRECIATION for being a part of the human dream!

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Thank-you Sollve! This is the sort of thing I'm looking for. This is really a global issue...and given all of the reports of what is secretly going on throughout the Solar System...it's really a Solar System Issue! I just finished looking at both links...and THEY ROCK!!! You are doing exactly what I would like to see thousands or millions of people doing! We'll all sort of do our own thing...with the same general principles...and eventually there will be some sort of informal consolidation...or an organized decentralism. Then...when the 100th monkey signs up...THIS THING WILL GO GALACTIC!

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Consider thinking through what a Perfected Humanity Living in a Perfected Solar System would look like. You might completely disagree with this experimental thread...and you might hate me...but please take the time to really think through the issues which have been raised.

THIS ISN'T MY PROJECT. THIS IS YOUR PROJECT. THIS IS IMPORTANT WORK.

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Here is a Star Trek episode which I thought was relevant to this thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRw9U...eature=related Please consider reading and watching as much science fiction as possible...with the United States of the Solar System in mind. This is an experimental hypothesis which I am taking more seriously...each and every day. But I am sort of looking forward to this forum going to read-only. Then I will be able to stop posting without feeling guilty.

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If my Hathorian Hypothesis is correct...and I don't know that it is...could this Reptilian/Human Hybrid have been absolutely necessary...at least historically? Could this Reptilian/Human Hybrid have been a mixture of good and evil...sanity and insanity...incorruption and corruption...truth and error? I tend to think so...but I don't really know so. The more I think about this personality...or multiple personality...the more I like them...and the more I dislike them. I think that dealing with them might be very complex for us...and them. The whole theory rests upon the necessity of having a mediator or mediatrix between the Reptilian and Human races. I continue to 'like' the idea of the Human Race being Prisoners of War...on a Prison Planet...with Grey Guards...and a Human/Reptilian Hybrid Warden...taking orders from a Reptilian God of This World. I don't know that this is the case...really...but I suspect that it is. If so...the Human/Reptilian Hybrid Warden might be Hathor...century after century after century...in body after body after body. How would you like to have that job? I wouldn't.

A lot of my threads and postings deal with the possibility of finding a way for Hathor (Lucifer?) to retire...and for the negative and regressive Reptilian Beings to either become benevolent, peaceful, and constructive...or to leave this Solar System until they truly do become benevolent, peaceful, and contructive. Having no gods or goddesses...and having Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom as the Solar System Modus Operandi...are central themes in this proposed solution.

I apologize to anyone...human or otherwise...who I may have hurt or offended. I'm flying blind...and I don't really know what's going on. I'm quite neurotic and troubled...and I often do not say things in a tactful and logical manner. I'm hurt and scared. We've been lied to...and beat-up...so many times...like abused children. This isn't right...and it needs to change.

I don't know if the United States of the Solar System is a legitimate solution or not. The proposal was an experiment to generate discussion and debate...but the response has been minimal...and most often non-committal or negative. With the closing of this Avalon forum...I will be taking an extended break from publicly posting on this subject...especially in a forum setting. This isn't due to a change of heart...or a lack of interest. I just need to heal. I pursued various subjects on Avalon...to solve personal and public problems...but the opposite has seemingly occurred.

I would still like to meet Hathor/Lucifer (or any other beings in this general category)...regardless of how good or bad they have been historically...or are presently. This does not arise from a morbid curiosity. I'm simply interested in knowing the truth...facing reality...resolving what seems to be a deadlocked nightmare of a mess...and then moving on...to bigger and better things...for everyone. But don't be surprised if I keep shooting myself in the foot...and keep putting my foot in my mouth...and keep stepping on my...never mind.

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Seven score and five years ago, a great American signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity.

But one hundred forty-five years later, the Human Race still is not free. One hundred forty-five years later, the lives of Human Beings are still sadly crippled by the manacles of greed and the chains of fear. One hundred forty-five years later, Humanity lives on a lonely island of quiet desperation in the midst of a vast ocean of nearly seven billion souls. One hundred forty-five years later, Humanity is still languished in the corners of global society and finds itself an exile on its own planet. And so today...I have determined to dramatize a shameful condition.

In a sense...I've come to our religious and political leaders to cash a check. When the architects of the American constitutional republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all people would be guaranteed the "Unalienable Rights" of "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." America was to be a city on a hill...to illuminate the rest of the world with Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given We the People of Earth a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds."

But I refuse to believe that America...and the rest of the world...is morally bankrupt. I refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds. And so, I've determined to cash this check...a check that will give Humanity...upon demand...the riches of freedom and the security of justice.

I have also determined to remind the world of the fierce urgency of Now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of nationalism and protectionism. Now is the time to lift our world from the quicksands of war and hate...to the solid rock of brotherhood and sisterhood. Now is the time to make Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom a reality for all of God's children.

It would be fatal for We the People of Earth to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of Humanity's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. 2012 will not be the end...but a beginning. And those who hope that the patriots and conspiracy theorists needed to blow off steam and will now be content...will have a rude awakening if the world returns to business as usual. And there will be neither rest nor tranquility in the world until Humanity is granted it's citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our world until the bright day of justice emerges.

But there is something that I must say to We the People of Earth...who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice: In the process of gaining our rightful place in the universe...we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again, we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.

The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed Humanity must not lead us to a distrust of all of the Powers That Be...for many of them have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. And they have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom.

We cannot walk alone.

And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead.

We cannot turn back.

There are those who are asking the devotees of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom, "When will you be satisfied?" We can never be satisfied as long as any Human Being is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of brutality and starvation. We can never be satisfied as long as our bodies and minds are racked with the pain and horror of war. We cannot be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their self-hood and robbed of their dignity by being taught violence, lies, and immorality. We cannot be satisfied as long as the will of We the people of Earth is not taken seriously...and followed. No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until "justice rolls down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream."¹

I am not unmindful that some of you have encountered great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow jail cells. And some of you have come from areas where your quest -- quest for freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of brutality. You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive. Know that somehow this situation can and will be changed.

Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.

And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this world will rise up and live out the true meaning of the creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."

I have a dream that one day...the elites and the general public will sit down together at the table of brotherhood and sisterhood.

I have a dream that one day...even the Deep Underground Military Bases will be transformed into an oasis of openness and transparency.

I have a dream that one day...We the People of Earth will not be judged by our fame, fortune, and power...but by the content of our characters.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day the little boys and girls of the world...will be able to join hands...as Citizens of Earth.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; "and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together."

This is our hope...and Earth is our home.

With this faith, we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith, we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our world into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood and sisterhood. With this faith, we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

And this will be the day -- this will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with new meaning:

My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing.

Land where my fathers died, land of the Pilgrim's pride,

From every mountainside, let freedom ring!

If America is to be a great nation...this must become true. If Earth is to be a great planet...this must become true.

And so let freedom ring from Washington D.C.

Let freedom ring from the United Nations.

Let freedom ring from the City of London.

Let freedom ring from the Vatican.

Let freedom ring thoughout the Secret Government.

But not only that:

Let freedom ring from the Georgia Guidestones.

Let freedom ring from the Secret Space Program throughout the Solar System.

Let freedom ring from every Deep Underground Military Base.

Let freedom ring from the Sea of Tranquility.

From every Planet of the Solar System...let freedom ring.

And when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every planet, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, of all races, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:

Free at last! Free at last!

Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom
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