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Old 09-20-2008, 02:41 PM   #1
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The economic meltdown is no accident

September 19, 2008 by disinter


Given recent events, prior predictions (observations, really) appear to be coming to fruition:

* I warned of the coming economic problems and their implications, as well as why they were planned here. (July 14, 2007)
* The reasons for the planned destruction of the dollar were given here. (February 27, 2008)
* The collapse of the dollar was discussed here. (March 6, 2008)
* Ron Paul warned of worldwide economic collapse here. (March 13, 2008)
* Congress was warned, via a very rare closed-door session, of the exact events that are happening today, and those that are about to happen here. (March 17, 2008)
* The intentional consequences of the Federal Reserve scam were revealed here. (March 18, 2008)
* Dick Cheney was betting on the the collapse here. (March 27, 2008)
* The current inflationary recession was observed and the coming hyperinflationary great depression was predicted here. (July 1, 2008)
* The goal of this staged collapse was discussed here. (July 15, 2008)

The collapse of the dollar is no accident! This has been planned for decades as part of the New World Order. After the dollar collapses, the North American Union will be implemented and the dollar will be replaced with the Amero. Read the details here.

What bothers me is that many people I hold in high regard (Ron Paul, Michael Rivero, Lew Rockwell and many others) donít seem to have a clue, or are reluctant to discuss the reasons behind all this. They talk about the symptoms and what the government should or should not have done, yet they ignore the fact that a decades-old plan with very specific goals is simply being implemented very effectively.
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:49 PM   #2
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Anyone who pays attention has seen this coming for years. It is knocking on the door now and the collapse will come very soon.

The latest bailout is the super rich's last cash grab before the meltdown.

Most will lose their homes and not be able to afford groceries. There will be tens if not hundreds of millions homeless and destitute in the USA. This is what the 'concentration camps' were built for. To keep the masses housed and fed - and eliminate the uprising that would occur otherwise.

After the dust settles - and it will take some time - the elite will offer either a one world economy or regional economies (including the amero) as their solution. The masses will clamor for it so that their pain will end.
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:55 PM   #3
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you are 100% ON THE MONEY,no pun intended. if anyone has the opportunity for exposure it's ron paul. so why can't WE provide him with a public forum to do what we need him to do as what he says he believes in. if the country sees a gathering of 100,000 people with ron paul telling everyone what the real deal is they will have to report it live and many more americans will be exposed to the truth. if he doesn't want to do it then he's is full of it because we're running out of time.
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Anyone who pays attention has seen this coming for years. It is knocking on the door now and the collapse will come very soon.

The latest bailout is the super rich's last cash grab before the meltdown.

Most will lose their homes and not be able to afford groceries. There will be tens if not hundreds of millions homeless and destitute in the USA. This is what the 'concentration camps' were built for. To keep the masses housed and fed - and eliminate the uprising that would occur otherwise.

After the dust settles - and it will take some time - the elite will offer either a one world economy or regional economies (including the amero) as their solution. The masses will clamor for it so that their pain will end.
Good observation, but I don't think the camps are there to "house and feed" anyone, for very long. I think a person's stay at one of those camps would be a short one.
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you are 100% ON THE MONEY,no pun intended. if anyone has the opportunity for exposure it's ron paul. so why can't WE provide him with a public forum to do what we need him to do as what he says he believes in. if the country sees a gathering of 100,000 people with ron paul telling everyone what the real deal is they will have to report it live and many more americans will be exposed to the truth. if he doesn't want to do it then he's is full of it because we're running out of time.
He could do more, but Dr. Paul is trying.
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:12 PM   #6
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all it has to be is one day. i.e.-dr.paul will announce sunday 2pm to national supporters in d.c. the public is against banksters bailout with taxpayers and will tell world real deal yada,yada,yada. everyone jumps on bus for day then goes home. that would have BIG impact. and it's easy to put together but it has to come from ron pauls staff. he's wants to be president so if he doesn't want to do something like this i would become very suspicious of him.
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:18 PM   #7
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Good observation, but I don't think the camps are there to "house and feed" anyone, for very long. I think a person's stay at one of those camps would be a short one.
Why would that be?

The govt says to the people....come, we'll feed, clothe and shelter you.

The govt says to the corporations....come, we have all these people who need something to do. Give us a little $$ and we'll put them to work for you.
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:25 PM   #8
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Why would that be?

The govt says to the people....come, we'll feed, clothe and shelter you.

The govt says to the corporations....come, we have all these people who need something to do. Give us a little $$ and we'll put them to work for you.

1. the elderly and infirm cannot be used for labor

2. people considered as disruptive won't be trusted to "tow the line"

3. the elite believe in population reduction, that the correct population for the United States is approx. 50 million

4. sealed buildings with gas piping has been verified at many of these camps

ergo, a short stay for most
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:26 PM   #9
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arcora,i don't understand,are you saying you agree with the bailout and we're headed in the right direction?
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:27 PM   #10
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Dr. Peter Venkman:
[T]his city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions!
Mayor:
What do you mean "biblical"?
Dr. Raymond Stantz:
What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor. Real wrath of God type stuff! Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Dr. Egon Spengler:
Forty years of darkness, earthquakes, and volcanos!
Winston Zeddemore:
The dead rising from the grave!
Dr. Peter Venkman:
Human sacrifices, dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:28 PM   #11
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1. the elderly and infirm cannot be used for labor

2. people considered as disruptive won't be trusted to "tow the line"

3. the elite believe in population reduction, that the correct population for the United States is approx. 50 million

4. sealed buildings with gas piping has been verified at many of these camps

ergo, a short stay for most
Yes, I see your point.

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arcora,i don't understand,are you saying you agree with the bailout and we're headed in the right direction?
Absolutely not.
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:41 PM   #12
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you are 100% ON THE MONEY,no pun intended. if anyone has the opportunity for exposure it's ron paul. so why can't WE provide him with a public forum to do what we need him to do as what he says he believes in. if the country sees a gathering of 100,000 people with ron paul telling everyone what the real deal is they will have to report it live and many more americans will be exposed to the truth. if he doesn't want to do it then he's is full of it because we're running out of time.
I'm going to play devil's advocate here for a moment. Ron Paul, not unlike what one might call his left counterpart, Amy Goodman at Democracy Now!, expose much of the truth, but not all of it. Their primary complaint seems to be that we have some 'bad' people running the government and the economy and if we could get the rascals out, all would be well. What is never examined is the nature of capitalism itself, which by itself is subject to periods of expansion and contraction, the last major one being the Great Depression. Prior to that, markets were extremely volatile and crises were common. Economists came up with ways to try and smoothe out the periods of contraction and expansion.

Marx's greatest achievement was his analysis of capitalism and one does not have to be a marxist or communist to appreciate his genius. To oversimplify, the system is based on profits, which decline as competition around new inventions increases and overproduction occurs. Increased efficiency only adds to the problem as fewer consumers are chasing more and more goods. One has only to look at the car companies to see what happens. In order for capitalism to stay afloat it needs to continuously create new products.

So what is our situation now? The world is awash in goods which fewer and fewer people can afford, and there are no new inventions that people really need or want other than some electronic trinkets.

To your other point, prior to the Iraq war, MILLIONS around the world protested. War ensued nonetheless. A rally of 100,000 in support of Ron Paul would serve as little more than an annoyance.

Sorry to appear so grim, but there is an optimistic note. While fascism occurs when capitalism enters a major crisis as happened in Germany and appears to be happening here in the US, I don't believe that Americans will go along with it in the numbers required, nor will we go willingly.
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i will say again what i say everyday. it's the squeaky wheel scenario. no ,beer and nuts in front of the tube will solve anything. metaphysical strategies,planning for meltdown survival, or buying gold will do nothing in time to change the present situation. everyone's got to get off their butts,motivate publicly and let the world know how you feel! then pray to whoever your god is that you did enough ,and re-enforcements come out of no where because they are inspired by your convictions.
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While fascism occurs when capitalism enters a major crisis as happened in Germany and appears to be happening here in the US, I don't believe that Americans will go along with it in the numbers required, nor will we go willingly.
But they already have - and they will.

After 9/11 the masses begged to have their rights taken away to keep them safe.

After the financial collapse they will beg to be fed and housed by the govt.

They will then beg for a one world (or regional) economies to 'prevent this from happening again'.
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gwynned, i totally reject your philosophy. as i have stated on the previous posting" alex jones call to arms "a couple of days ago,all everyone has to do is stay home ,don't go to work and they will kiss your ass!
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Old 09-20-2008, 04:42 PM   #16
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Katheryn Austin Fitz calls what is happening a classic
pump and dump. This time it is on a national or even
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gwynned, i totally reject your philosophy.
Can you explain what part of my 'philosophy' you reject. I'm really not clear on that. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=gwynned;21959]I'm going to play devil's advocate here for a moment. Ron Paul, not unlike what one might call his left counterpart, Amy Goodman at Democracy Now!, expose much of the truth, but not all of it. Their primary complaint seems to be that we have some 'bad' people running the government and the economy and if we could get the rascals out, all would be well.


To be fair about Dr. Paul, he has publicly called for the abolishing of the Federal Reserve, abolishing of the IRS, and the end of fiat currency with a return to a asset backed currency. That's more than just complaining about those running the show.
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To be fair about Dr. Paul, he has publicly called for the abolishing of the Federal Reserve, abolishing of the IRS, and the end of fiat currency with a return to a asset backed currency. That's more than just complaining about those running the show.

A poor choice of words on my part. What I'm getting at is that Ron Paul believes in the capitalist system, though more in its 'pure unadulterated laissez fairre market driven' form. For him, the problem is that the neocons have the best of both worlds. Socialism for the rich (we MUST bail out the banks!!!! ) and free market capitalism for every body else. I would have said just the poor, but the middle class is under attack now. Being a man of principle, he believes in fair play for all sides.
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Perhaps Ron Paul, after first steps, would have then decided to disband the balance of the Government and let Anarchy reign ... perhaps in another timeline, where is my portal there?

Interestingly, with the global connection it would be most impractical to actually introduce anarchy, as another governed force would come to trample it, yes, like the Indians (while not purely anarchistic, seemed closer than we) in the US experienced. So, it seems, all or none ... barbarians at the gate, indeed.

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A poor choice of words on my part. What I'm getting at is that Ron Paul believes in the capitalist system, though more in its 'pure unadulterated laissez fairre market driven' form. For him, the problem is that the neocons have the best of both worlds. Socialism for the rich (we MUST bail out the banks!!!! ) and free market capitalism for every body else. I would have said just the poor, but the middle class is under attack now. Being a man of principle, he believes in fair play for all sides.
Understood.
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Ron Paul needs a job. Sacking off capitalism wont get him very far.

You dont spill your beliefs to everyone you meet and he doesnt preach to the world. He says enough to show what angle he is coming from. If he thought being fully honest about his views would make a massive difference he would. He is still appealing to as many bases as possible rather than narrowing down his target audience. Anyway its not about one man in office, it about the mentality of the people

Plus who knows what pressures him and his family may have. There may be certain areas he cant touch or its game over. We just dont know
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Ron Paul needs a job. Sacking off capitalism wont get him very far.

You dont spill your beliefs to everyone you meet and he doesnt preach to the world. He says enough to show what angle he is coming from. If he thought being fully honest about his views would make a massive difference he would. He is still appealing to as many bases as possible rather than narrowing down his target audience. Anyway its not about one man in office, it about the mentality of the people

Plus who knows what pressures him and his family may have. There may be certain areas he cant touch or its game over. We just dont know
I agree
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At least Ron Paul was ready, willing and able to undo the all of the shenanigans that got us here. We could have had a clean slate. That would have allowed an honest debate on which way to go in the future.
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I hope Martial Law will never be declared, but with this people in power, who knows?
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