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Old 10-14-2009, 01:49 PM   #1
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Default I want your Beliefs...PLEASE

THE WAY OF TRUTH


You know something that is so hard to come by these days : TRUTH

You can’t buy it...you can’t beg for it...you can’t just find it by looking…..and you can’t find it in the world of Avalon\Camelot. I mean the pure truth...100% all natural ….100% right on the money

Oh you can find some things that have a dash here or a pinch there allowing it to dovetail into some of your personal truths. Shadows that give the illusion of truth.

Lies….now those are easy to come by...turn on the TV...read a paper...read a thread planted to make you doubt the real truth you read the day before.

Mind boggling huh?

Is truth then just a personal perspective??

What I believe are truths probably not what you think is the truth…...I know the sun will come up tomorrow.

Some can argue that may not be the truth….and they would be absolutely right.

So then truth is personal...but…

Here it comes

THERE ARE UNIVERSAL TRUTHS

What the creator believes is truth….now that’s real truth.

What he\she thinks is real is what is truth.

So a truth to me is an opinion to you.

A division….a big old wall right between you and me.

Cause isn’t that what it comes down to:

Religion: 1 god...many gods...his\her name

Morals: I love that...Oh...I’d never do that

Until we can strip away everything and link up with the guy standing next to us….All things are hidden.

A collective soul that believes what is the best for EVERYONE

Not you...or the guy down the street

EVERYONE!!

You can’t hide...you can’t deceive

And the feeling of belonging

And what we all believe is the 100% pure no additives TRUTH

Now to get to the GUTS…

I want your truths

I want to hear what you believe to be true.

Maybe we are all closer than we think with our truths.

Maybe writing them down will show us that we’re not that different

No Liars or deceivers here…..

This could be a volatile thread if it takes off...or it may die on the vine

Please don’t despair on others beliefs!!!!

STAR’s Truths:

I believe in:

The creator
Me
My loved ones
Aliens
Bigfoot
Loch Ness Monster
Watchers that Shepard mankind
A history of our world not in History books
A Destiny to greatness for all Mankind
Nourishing and teaching our children
Life above all else
Nazis that did not lose WW2...they just relocated
A US government that can’t tell the truth
A world organization run by my enemies
An evil in the church of Rome
You
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Old 10-14-2009, 02:16 PM   #2
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Nephilim
Jesus
Noah's flood
Atlantis
Lemuria
Life all over the Universe
After Life
ACC Basketball
Eating your vegetables
Helping others
Being Kind
Working Hard
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Old 10-14-2009, 02:17 PM   #3
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Nephilim
Jesus
Noah's flood
Atlantis
Lemuria
Life all over the Universe
After Life
ACC Basketball
Eating your vegetables
Helping others
Being Kind
Working Hard

I also believe in all the things you posted Stargazer
These are only a few things that come to mind
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Old 10-14-2009, 02:18 PM   #4
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Hi, I'm a newbie and nervous. I am wondering about your great timeless question.

I am true to my self. I believe you will be true to your self. I think the separateness is an illusion to keep us apart. I believe everyone is capable of anything great and small. Truth is hard to find out there. The whole truth and nothing but the truth is rarely told anymore, a bit here a bit there to make illusions to truth. But, since we all perceive reality different, truth is different for everyone. The veil is always there. Do not tell me what I can or can not do is a great truth for me.
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Old 10-14-2009, 02:33 PM   #5
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Truth is there is no truth

only this moment

ever changing evolving consciousness

be in your heart

listen to the smallstill voice

and know that I am is ALL THERE IS

is.... is all there is ...

love is black n white and everything inbetween ....

in service to the all that is rhythmom ...

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Old 10-14-2009, 03:00 PM   #6
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Love is the way out of this mess.
Fear is quicksand.
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Old 10-14-2009, 05:18 PM   #7
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I believe that what I believe

colors and constructs

my world my fantasy


your world is your fantasy

if you believe


earth

solid and lush

moon

pale and calm

the sands on the beach

keep track of time


sleep

vanish

of

dreams


still

I

Am

Aware


the Touchstone of Truth

on the bank of

River of Life and Love


and that I have to live It

to remember It

and be trancended by It


even if no man lives It

nor believes It


Truth still is Truth

and Its Song like a Serenade

for lovers lost

everywhere

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Old 10-14-2009, 06:15 PM   #8
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The views expressed on this site approximate my views: http://redletterchurch.net/ Here I stand.
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:17 PM   #9
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Hmm, just what do i believe?

I believe anything is possible and nothing is set in stone..
i believe the 'answers' come from 'within'..
i believe in the overwhelming goodness of humanity/other lifeforms/all creation..
i believe the tptb are instantly made tptw in our individual lives by simply deciding to ignore them and doing what you want to do..
i believe everything happens for a reason..
i believe in the simple power of a smile..
i believe in reserving the right to declare the above subject to change (see #1)..

but mostly i believe in music, i believe in love!

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Old 10-14-2009, 06:25 PM   #10
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i believe nothing.

Quote:
It is a mistake to consider any belief more liberated than another. It is the possibility of change which is important. Every new form of liberation is destined to eventually become another form of enslavement for most of its adherents. - Peter J Carroll

Quote:
“Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of existence.” Robert Anton Wilson
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:33 PM   #11
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That was a cool song...and the quotes were great.
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:46 PM   #12
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Thank you ortho!
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:55 PM   #13
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:58 PM   #14
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This is great...Thanks to all!!!
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:21 PM   #15
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I believe in love. Love is not just a word. God is love.
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:55 PM   #16
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Great thread Stargazer

I have also wrestled with the question of Truth what it is, where to find it and what to do with it when you think you have it!

I feel that Truth is something directly experienced


I have come up with my own list

I believe a child's laughter is the Truth
I believe a mother nursing her child is of the Truth
I believe a loving family is of the Truth
The unconditional love between two people is of the Truth
Being the best person one can be is of the Truth
Being a sovereign human being, that is taking responsibility for who you are in the world is of the Truth
Children singing is of the Truth
My little dog Lady is of the Truth...she never gets angry and is always loving
Having integrity, especially when the world around you doesn't, is of the Truth
Going out of your way for another human being is of the Truth
Having no personal agenda for gain in helping others is of the Truth
Consciously bringing your loving light out to the world everyday is of the Truth
Living each and every day, knowing the dark plans of tptb, and choosing to have faith in mankind, is of the Truth

Thanks for asking Star
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Old 10-15-2009, 12:45 AM   #17
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I believe we are made of Love and that each time we find ourselves into separation with others or the world at large it is because we have forgotten it and this only accounts for our unhappiness.
For me the ultimate truth is Love itself.

Love Always
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Old 10-19-2009, 04:41 AM   #18
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Love & Respect for ALL BEINGS! NO EXCEPTIONS!
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:07 PM   #19
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i believe in music too...i took a shower after watching that video with the rhythm still in my head and this poem came to me:

i got this fun, funky feeling
that never seems to go away

yeah...i got this fun, funky feeling
that makes me want to dance and play

i got this futuristic feeling
that it's all going to be okay

yeah...i got this futuristic feeling
no matter whether it's night or day

i got this fantastic feeling
i hope you feel it in the words i say

yeah...i got this fantastic feeling
just like a flower that blooms in may

i got this fabulous feeling
that i know will forever stay

yeah...i got this fabulous feeling
because my heart is leading the way

peace,
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:43 PM   #20
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I believe we are made of Love and that each time we find ourselves into separation with others or the world at large it is because we have forgotten it and this only accounts for our unhappiness.
For me the ultimate truth is Love itself.

Love Always
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oh, jolly well said!!!

yes love is truth to me...

all other truth is like, all that is in the macro-micro, whatever everything is,
full of paradox's!
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:49 PM   #21
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Well, you cant have them!! Theyre Mine!
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:38 PM   #22
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Is truth then just a personal perspective??
What else is there?

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Old 10-19-2009, 11:56 PM   #23
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I gotta stick with the old stand by......

I heat UP... I cool Down...



Trooly,


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