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Old 10-29-2008, 05:29 PM   #26
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Wow you're right OM, I finally saw it, at first I only saw counter clockwise, then after focusing on the outer foot and hand I saw clockwise! What a trip and sorry for getting off topic Theresa! Oh and to Mike Jetson, don't watch her outer foot and hand go around, just kinda stare at it, like space out on it, I was like you but I finally got it!

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Old 10-29-2008, 05:42 PM   #27
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Its like being in Room 101 this , its counterclockwise.

Maybe shock therapy will help
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Old 10-29-2008, 05:48 PM   #28
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It's very easy to disregard someone else's sightings, in part because it is difficult to accurately describe what you have seen in terms that give the same impact as the sighting.

Even videos have a similar problem for a variety of reasons. A video of a lighted object in an otherwise dark sky gives no clues as to the size and motion of the object. The motion could be due to the camera moving, or the object moving. If the camera tracks the object and there are no background objects, you can't see that the object is moving. An average video camera does not pick up background stars well, so there are no reference points. You need a sophisticated night vision setup for that. Also, CG is so good now it is easy to produce very good fakes.

So, before telling an eyewitness they are misinterpreting what they saw, it would be better to ask for additional information. How was the object moving? Where was it in the sky? How did it appear/disappear? Were there other witnesses? etc, etc.

Sure, most UFOs are misinterpretations of objects with conventional explanations, but many are not.

The rectangular sky lanterns offered as an explanation of the diamond shaped UFO were the wrong shape and there was no evidence of a flame at the bottom. Not a good fit.

If you have done your homework you know there are sightings with ground visual, air visual, ground radar, and air radar tracking all on the same object with records and testimony from multiple witnesses/operators. They exist.

Ask to see one. You may be surprised!

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Old 10-29-2008, 05:50 PM   #29
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:10 PM   #30
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I did exactly that. Without getting negative, the first thing I investigated led me to the conclusion that there is a very high likelihood of self deception involved.

The first I thought when I read arcoras reply (the link) was that it was a humorous way of saying "hey look it could be..." I saw no negativity, only a humorous approach. I made a similar posting recently that was misinterpretated by some and erased by a mod. Humour can sometimes seem harsh, but for me at least, is very important. Especially when subjects get heavy and over serious. I know also that arcoras "lithium" link was taken wrongly by some, I personally almost puked laughing. Were different - thats all.

I dont agree with many of your postings arcora, but love the wit
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:18 PM   #31
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:23 PM   #32
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Its like being in Room 101 this , its counterclockwise.

Maybe shock therapy will help
HaHa, just try staring kinda at the right side of the picture, I can actually go back and forth now to where she doesn't turn at all!
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:27 PM   #33
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:31 PM   #34
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:36 PM   #35
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So, before telling an eyewitness they are misinterpreting what they saw, it would be better to ask for additional information.
I did exactly that. Without getting negative, the first thing I investigated led me to the conclusion that there is a very high likelihood of self deception involved.
Arcora,
I meant that you should ask the eyewitness for additional information. If you did so, there is no evidence in this thread.

Humor can be taken the wrong way by someone who is reporting an unusual sighting. It can be taken as ridicule.
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:49 PM   #36
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acora you are the type of a** that would get kicked out of any group if their ever was a survival situation...

what way is the lady spinning...

looks clockwise to me
My moneys on clockwise too
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:55 PM   #37
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:00 PM   #38
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Ok. I can accept that. I just had to ask .
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:32 PM   #39
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she spins both ways, dependes on right or left brain usage
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:47 PM   #40
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To reverse direction just look away from the screen, with your peripheral vision look at the image. Your brain will reverse the direction. Once you get it, it's kind of cool to "make" it rotate back and forth.

One person's UFO is another person's frisbee. Unless you are there to witness the event, it is hard to judge what an object is on film. I still enjoy getting exposure to these things....I am thankful that Theresa shared this event with us and I can appreciate Arcora's opinion as well. Both are valid.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:13 PM   #41
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I first seen the picture clockwise for 20-30 seconds, I then it switched to counter clockwise for 10 seconds, then I it changed left to right, left to right. I can now look at the pictured and make a choice on how I want to see it. I always wondered what this meant.

Thanx for the picture and the info.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:34 PM   #42
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Like the 'psychological dancer' Arcora,initially i couldn't get it moving out of clockwise rotation at all but then i looked at the 'shadow' and got it moving anticlockwise-then at will move it any which way 'but loose'!!lol. Please forgive the suggestive pun.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:56 PM   #43
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I watched the dancer for a while and she moves both ways.
Thank God for your observation Gabe! That means I'm not the only one.

I was about to make an appointment to have my sanity checked. I thought I might have been suffering from some esoteric disorder from spending too much time in Avalon land.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:56 PM   #44
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That dancer is cool. What a trip. She turns in what ever direction i want her to now.
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:04 PM   #45
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Sorry Theresa, your thread got totally hijacked because of the dancing lady, and people don't read the threads from the beginning!
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:54 PM   #46
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Like the 'psychological dancer' Arcora,initially i couldn't get it moving out of clockwise rotation at all but then i looked at the 'shadow' and got it moving anticlockwise-then at will move it any which way 'but loose'!!lol. Please forgive the suggestive pun.
Yeah, focus on the 'shadow' if you want to see her change direction.

Acora why are you here.. this forum is a haven from people like you, take your disinformation and your sceptisicm somewhere else please. (que smart ass reply from acora...)
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:10 AM   #47
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This is footage taken in Germany, we are in Michigan, but this is what we also saw, except when we saw it it was shaped more oval/rectanglish....cool!

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=ft99NFxZPN0
It is cool and I believe you. Blessings to you and your family.
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Old 10-30-2008, 04:35 AM   #48
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Which way is this dancer spinning? Clockwise or counter-clockwises?

We see what our brain tells us we see (what we want to see).
Oh, this is cool. I thought I was only seeing counterclockwise... until I closed my eyes and looked back, and it was clockwise. Couldn't change every time, it takes a bit of effort... seems the mind does it when it wants to, not because I want it to.

But then, I found if I concentrated, I could make her flip back and forth at every half turn. I could control it with my mind.

Thanks for sharing!

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Old 10-30-2008, 05:01 AM   #49
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Arcora, I really don't understand what you get out of this website. I don't think I've ever seen you post anything inspiring, encouraging, or even remotely filled with love. Why are you here?
Other than the obvious, that is. It's pretty clear to everyone here that you're really just all about starting fights and derailing threads. So what, exactly do you get out of this group?

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Old 10-30-2008, 06:17 AM   #50
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It doesn't depend on brain usage.... she spins both ways anyway. Just watch for a while and her direction will change. Watch the location of the shadow that moves below her.
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