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Old 10-08-2008, 04:24 PM   #1
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Ladies and Gentlemen, Co-creators!

Are You tired of the Status Quo?
Do You want a Future of Your Choice and Deeds?
Are You Willing to extend a Hand to a Fellow Human Being?
Are You Ready to Move Forward?
Do You have Trust in Mankind and Reason?
Do You feel Connected to Mother Earth?
Do You view Nature and All Creatures as One and The same?
Are You convinced of The Oneness of Humanity?
Are You Craving for The New Paradigm?
Are You Calling for The Creational Laws?

You can then register here to join Project Venus.

Project Venus is the alternative future world, based on Solidarity, Reason, Spirituality, Sciences, Technologie, the Laws of Creation and, before all, Hard and Conscious work we all could build upon the Foundations laid down by 'Zeitgeist: Addendum'

It is an attempt to evolve in Harmony with Mother Nature and one's own Consciousness.

At the thread 'Wat we are supposed to do' (courtesy of Member Xammy) are practical steps and emotional/spiritual preparations toward this New Experience being thoroughly discussed.
You could also know more by going through the threads: 'Zeitgeist: Addendum, a must see' and also at Project camelot, onder Books and Movies.

The Website is (from Oct. 10th): www.thezeitgeistmovement.com

The movie-Manifest of Venus Project 'Zeitgeist: Addendum' could be viewed here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...05277695921912


Behold The Future; it is within You.

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UPDATE:

Here is the Conceptual Scheme of The Common Conscious Future:

www.thevenusproject.com

This new experimental city would be devoted to working towards the aims and goals of The Venus Project, which are:

1. Conserving all the world's resources as the common heritage of all of the Earth’s people.
2. Transcending all of the artificial boundaries that separate people.
3. Evolving from a monetary-based economy to a resource-based world economy.
4. Reclaiming and restoring the natural environment to the best of our ability.
5. Redesigning our cities, transportation systems, and agricultural and industrial plants so that they are energy efficient, clean, and conveniently serve the needs of all people.
6. Evolving towards a cybernated society that can gradually outgrow the need for all political local, national, and supra-national governments as a means of social management.
7. Sharing and applying all of the new technologies for the benefit of all nations.
8. Using clean, renewable energy sources such as wind, solar, geothermal, and tidal power, etc.
9. Ultimately utilizing the highest quality products for the benefit of all the world’s people.
10. Requiring environmental impact studies prior to construction of any mega-projects.
11. Encouraging the widest range of creativity and incentive toward constructive endeavor.
12. Assisting in stabilizing the world’s population through education and voluntary birth-control to conform to the carrying capacity of the earth.
13. Outgrowing nationalism, bigotry and prejudice through education.
14. Eliminating any type of elitism, technical or otherwise.
15. Arriving at methodologies by careful research rather than random opinions.
16. Enhancing communication in the new schools so that our language and education is relevant to the physical conditions of the world around us.
17. Providing not only the necessities of life but also offering challenges that stimulate the mind, emphasizing individuality rather than uniformity.
18. Finally, preparing people intellectually and emotionally for the possible changes that lie ahead.


Like all other innovative social proposals, it starts out with a few devoted people that dedicate their time to informing others of the humane benefits of this new direction. People are invited to participate in whatever capacity they can to help carry out the initial design phases of this new experimental city. An interdisciplinary team of systems engineers, computer programmers, architects, city planners, sociologists, psychologists, educators and the like would also be needed.

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Old 10-08-2008, 04:49 PM   #2
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I'm in!

Thank you...was wondering if others were hip to the Venus Project.

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Old 10-08-2008, 05:01 PM   #3
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I'm in!

Thank you...was wondering if others were hip to the Venus Project.

Love & Light
You bet, Wes_Whitewolf, you bet!

It is taking pace and a little bit of Positivity and Forward Looking could do no harm, i guess...

Cheers, Comrade!

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Old 10-08-2008, 06:03 PM   #4
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sign me up Rakar,

I am fully backing up project Venus.
The future is in our hands.
May all that come here pass the good word to their friends for the energy and the good will of many are needed for this project to come trough.

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Old 10-08-2008, 06:29 PM   #5
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Van harte Welkom aan boord, Beste Mudra!
I am delighted to have you among us.

I have to notice that it is pretty symbolic: you complete The Trinity - could one wish for a better beginning?!

To born anew from oneself is indeed utterly challenging, but we shall prevail for Creation, whose Eternal Laws we are willing to apply, will always strengthen our Volition and inspire us.

We shall actively disseminate the News, sharing it with as much People as possible, at Avalon and beyond.
I will post this Initiative by the Ground Crew Networking, within the Dutch Communities and others.

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Old 10-08-2008, 06:54 PM   #6
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Are You tired of the Status Quo?
Do You want a Future of Your Choice and Deeds?
Are You Willing to extend a Hand to a Fellow Human Being?
Are You Ready to Move Forward?
Do You have Trust in Mankind and Reason?
Do You feel Connected to Mother Earth?
Do You view Nature and All Creatures as One and The same?
Are You convinced of The Oneness of Humanity?
Are You Craving for The New Paradigm?
Are You Calling for The Creational Laws?
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I'm in

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Old 10-08-2008, 07:00 PM   #7
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Welcome, Honorable Dragonfly.

Some challenging but great work lays ahead; your Contribution, Leadership, Care and Dedication would be highly appreciated.

Peace and Wisdom.


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What is Project Venus? Will it be another forum exchanging ideas of the new Earth? Other readers may want to know.

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Hello Surel,

Project Venus is the alternative future world, based on Solidarity, Reason, Spirituality, Sciences, Technologie, the Laws of Creation and, before all, Hard and Conscious work we all could build upon the Foundations laid down by 'Zeitgeist: Addendum':http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ist+-+Addendum

(the website will be launched Oct. 10: www.thezeitgeistmovement.com)

It is an attempt to evolve in Harmony with Mother Nature and one's own Consciousness.

For the time being you could know more by going through the threads:'What we are supposed to do'(by Xammy, onder 'General Discussion'); 'Zeitgeist: Addendum, a must see' and also at Project camelot, onder Books and Movies.

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You are welcome, Surel.

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I'm in. Thank you for the initiation & work.

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Old 10-09-2008, 06:14 AM   #13
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I love what the project stands for so count me in
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Old 10-09-2008, 06:30 AM   #14
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Seems like, coughs, BS to me. The 'city' designs are nonsensical in that they do not utilize the best human-altered landscapes design system we have available now. The 'idea' of food production is simply that, an idea, untested, unverified and unproductive. Floating around the sea in a high tech thing-a-ma-jig seems like a great idea until you get marooned on the dead sea of plastic between Hawaii and California.

All in all it is kind of like a great passing of gas without capturing said gas to cook your KD....Those 'in charge' need to hone up on some basics besides bedside drawings and grand design scenarios. Looks pretty much star trekkie to me. Speaking as a Permaculture Design Consultant and all....I'd rather hit the high seas with a bunch of drunk pirates than build some useless thing with this bunch of old hippies.
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You ever stop to think, the movie "Zeitgeist: Addendum" could have been the answer to the prayers of those who are awakened? I like what Jaques Fresco said "It's not perfect, but it's a lot better than the way it is right now." (I don't think I got the name or the phrase right but you get the jist of it )

The creators of the movie did their part, hopefully the website can organize enough people to make this whole thing possible. Count me in. This whole thing can only be possible if the revolution is peaceful and the old rulers are granted amnesty. Otherwise we would be no better than the old rulers.
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Old 10-09-2008, 07:03 AM   #16
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I found it both positive and IMO a mixture of the future and the past (nature)combined. I think this would be a great project for sustainable living. We truly may be in need of different types of living modules. It was quite breathtaking to me as I viewed most of what was on the site. The only thing I found I would need to adjust in my life was the plastics throughout the living quarters. The transportation systems were quite inspiring as well as the future cities. I have had visions of the dome type homes but were partially underground and grouped with more than one family unit there was also a larger dome type city that was above ground and quite large which used a type of small craft to journey to. Count me in as well.
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I can hardly wait.

Sign me up.

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While rallying for the demise of "religion and faith", along with banking institutions, it makes a not so subtle substitution with "Secular Humanism" ... this **** has more dogma than most major religions. Look it up and you will find this "new religion" to be filled with Utopian dreams and promises, used as a clever veneer to cover eugenics and intellectual elitism. Statements like "there is no instinctual human behavior" stinks of the agenda that says everyone can be bullied into this new "thinking process". Run, don't walk from this "Project Venus", with the same effort to run from the current monetary system!
Whilst not an expert on Secular Humanism I have an instinctive mistrust of anyone that wants to tell me what the "The Creational Laws" are.
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Welcome on board,
Storm4Ce; PerthDanny; Jeff Delano; Trishsgate; Dominic.

Lance; Bagatell, we are Co-creators, it is in our own hands.
As for the Creational Laws, they are but Harmony with Nature, they are out there in the Heart of Mother Earth; they are within Us.
We shall give Project Venus a try with all our Human Grandeur and also Imperfections.

May this Day also be in the Sign of The Spirit.

Here is then the Conceptual Scheme of The Common Conscious Future:

www.thevenusproject.com

This new experimental city would be devoted to working towards the aims and goals of The Venus Project, which are:

1. Conserving all the world's resources as the common heritage of all of the Earth’s people.
2. Transcending all of the artificial boundaries that separate people.
3. Evolving from a monetary-based economy to a resource-based world economy.
4. Reclaiming and restoring the natural environment to the best of our ability.
5. Redesigning our cities, transportation systems, and agricultural and industrial plants so that they are energy efficient, clean, and conveniently serve the needs of all people.
6. Evolving towards a cybernated society that can gradually outgrow the need for all political local, national, and supra-national governments as a means of social management.
7. Sharing and applying all of the new technologies for the benefit of all nations.
8. Using clean, renewable energy sources such as wind, solar, geothermal, and tidal power, etc.
9. Ultimately utilizing the highest quality products for the benefit of all the world’s people.
10. Requiring environmental impact studies prior to construction of any mega-projects.
11. Encouraging the widest range of creativity and incentive toward constructive endeavor.
12. Assisting in stabilizing the world’s population through education and voluntary birth-control to conform to the carrying capacity of the earth.
13. Outgrowing nationalism, bigotry and prejudice through education.
14. Eliminating any type of elitism, technical or otherwise.
15. Arriving at methodologies by careful research rather than random opinions.
16. Enhancing communication in the new schools so that our language and education is relevant to the physical conditions of the world around us.
17. Providing not only the necessities of life but also offering challenges that stimulate the mind, emphasizing individuality rather than uniformity.
18. Finally, preparing people intellectually and emotionally for the possible changes that lie ahead.


Like all other innovative social proposals, it starts out with a few devoted people that dedicate their time to informing others of the humane benefits of this new direction. People are invited to participate in whatever capacity they can to help carry out the initial design phases of this new experimental city. An interdisciplinary team of systems engineers, computer programmers, architects, city planners, sociologists, psychologists, educators and the like would also be needed.

This Projection, together with the Six Preliminary Steps, as expressed in 'Zeitgeist: Addendum', would be thoroughly discussed at the thread 'What we are supposed to do', in the section 'General Discussion'.

Namaste.


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Lance; Bagatell, we are Co-creators, it is in our own hands.
As for the Creational Laws, they are but Harmony with Nature, they are out there in Mother Earth; they are within Us.
We shall give Project Venus a try with all our Human Grandeur and also Imperfections.
Please see my post re E-Prime
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Thanks, Bagatell; i am heading to the link you gave.

I just would like to add that we are essentially free to define our own Ways.
Within Project Venus, we would try New Ideas, adapt, correct or reject what doesn't work or might ruin the Harmony with Nature we would be seeking.

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The I which is interpreted by what may be construed as myself concurs. And what's this gibberish about 'natural laws'. All, each and every single one of them, 'laws' are made to have an opposition. Say's ayyyeee, matey.
There seems to me to be, several rather clever re-design conceptions already without getting into untested, neo-tech without working prototypes. There is for instance the newly released hush turbine, low wind, power generator out of Australia, there is 'blue energy' tidal power coming out of the orifices of vancouver, there is Permaculture, a proven technology.

Not a single iota of appropriate technology is really listed on this 'Venus' thing. Maybe the originators are awaiting the Hathors or something to come and put all their various cruddy designs into place. The grand circle city design looks good on paper, but I would prefer to have a steam-wind-solar cogeneration plant we could all gather around and talk in place of some neural, cyber nettworky (sic) thing. I'd prefer to have each ring as densely planted with the food I and my family consumes daily as possible. Not 'parks' and other such wastes of space.

Seems to me like another bunch of urbanites wanking at their dream of quasi-rurality. No clue, no conception, no grasp of the deeper meanings of food production, animal husbandry with in food production...just a bunch of folks whom want a cleaner, safer New York. Bah, friggin' humbug. I say, good luck and safe travels on your road to serfdom if the food isn't grown right there. Let machines do it...they have been...I for one, maybe others feel different, do not like processed, GMO'd food myself. So, if the most basic of human needs is done outside the parley of the average food producer/consumer. No thanks, I'll take my chances at home.

This reeks of Tavistock programming. If your nostrils ain't tuned in, ya'll won't be getting it. C'est la vie...one or two of you might. And that, is enough for me.
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[Quote; And what's this gibberish about 'natural laws'. All, each and every single one of them, 'laws' are made to have an opposition. ... Amen to this lanc(ifer)! we learn best with opposites how to balance great diversity.
Quote: This reeks of Tavistock programming. If your nostrils ain't tuned in, ya'll won't be getting it. C'est la vie...one or two of you might. And that, is enough for me.[/QUOTE] I plan to research Tavistock programming to peer in on just what effects this holds.

Lanc(ifer); you are from a Rock of purity and your voice screams instinctive from knowing above the heads of most -unwilling to really free truth from the deception. As for this project on your watch- mine says the same time..It is not for me and it will NOT work FOR THOSE THAT ARE AWAKE AND AWARE// let us hope that it will not be a possible for some whom will find themselves awakening in such places before the awareness hits them.
WE are a tribe of beings designed perfectly to share in union with the Earth as an exclusive exchange toward initiation of enlightenment.
The Venus project feels as a false prophet organizing some vision without the refined sense of the whole, only the sight of plugging a hole we created on the way to here with fictitious promises. WE should ask these solicitors to go away. They possibly seek to get the anchor of the collective conscious by way of Avalon members.

As it seems to many to be the answer to what is now needed and that of a wonder to engage, I am feeling the brakes go on full hold when I read about Cybernated systems. Perhaps Venus will explain to us what exactly this means for HOW it is that this results:

"Evolving towards a CYBERNATED society that can gradually outgrow the need for all political local, national, and supra-national governments as a means of social management". If it is E-prime motivated, which is likely from cyber based systemic planning, or implanting, what then does this rabbit hole lead to?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special...rime_(software

/and how about adding this thought of the day - what our scientist have been employed doing of late.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience

Education from current events here; Could this be part of what is wanted in this Utopia?
Genetic Experiments And DNA Ownership Without Consent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgrmtMBJjcg

Humanity is in a priceless equipped meta-designed vessel waiting to be ignited and sovereign to then create anew. We cannot think that we are not being profiled for joining encampment from sources with nefarious means. Our vessels have long been sought for and will perhaps be fought over by 2012, why do you suppose? We very well could be stamped, sourced and packaged for other sources to utilize our inheritance as its own. It can only do this with compliance and acceptance to join its program of reality. WE have free will to choose. We must first remember how to feel our choices. The technology we most must practice and share is that inner one of peace; use it to come together and survey together options to act. Feel again and know again this inner technology is now in full scope to use and is human organically needed and based.

Why does Venus only offer part of a picture for this supposed societal breakthrough? Not offering this publicly, is suspicious.
Analysis of Cybernated systems or structures is a deepening sign of dependency, not inter-dependency upon life for humankind anyway. perhaps it will be great for those that are cross over alien/human forms..no offense intended and no defense felt; as this may soon purge the higher ancient ways of being a tribe again rather then blend with those not inwardly designed for such.

How can we reveal if this is not another form of indoctrination waiting to have participants? Materialism gave rise to the need for community with a singular spirit guidance that is utterly in merge with our DNA. Let us not fall prey to something not in total identification with our inner systemic organically based needs ecologically and biologically; Lest we become a Matrix of cyber-nation citizens. Re-education of how we live is what is up on the drawing board but while this is true, why are we not focused on hammering out the things which unfold potentials first, such as deregulation gone mad. The Bail out Bill is a bothering sign of this same lack of realism for all peoples. Miriam Delacado deftly mentions the notion of researching the etymology of seeds. We are the metaphor of a seed's survival searching yet for another way to live in harmony again with our own seeds and from our own root. What about Venus feels of this? Zero, for me.

Feel what you survey, then seek the truth by allowing questions no matter what is in front of you.

Project Avalon was born for this role and with our input, there is a need to survey many ideas that need to surface; yet first, we need to be sensible, remain honest with ourselves and fully grounded to our own experience of truth. Does it not make sense to first conclude that rebuilding of society should then call upon localized groups to volunteer forming by similar mind set to thrive from what we now can collectively contribute rather than economic circumstance implying membership to a Way that is Utopian blueprinted by a few?. Do you feel the truth about Venus and its Way of project-ive solutions?
Let me hear from you on this as you realize from your own insights.

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[Quote; And what's this gibberish about 'natural laws'. All, each and every single one of them, 'laws' are made to have an opposition. ... Amen to this lanc(ifer)! we learn best with opposites how to balance great diversity.
Quote: This reeks of Tavistock programming. If your nostrils ain't tuned in, ya'll won't be getting it. C'est la vie...one or two of you might. And that, is enough for me.
I plan to research Tavistock programming to peer in on just what effects this holds.

Lanc(ifer); you are from a Rock of purity and your voice screams instinctive from knowing above the heads of most -unwilling to really free truth from the deception. As for this project on your watch- mine says the same time..It is not for me and it will NOT work FOR THOSE THAT ARE AWAKE AND AWARE// let us hope that it will not be a possible for some whom will find themselves awakening in such places before the awareness hits them.
WE are a tribe of beings designed perfectly to share in union with the Earth as an exclusive exchange toward initiation of enlightenment.
The Venus project feels as a false prophet organizing some vision without the refined sense of the whole, only the sight of plugging a hole we created on the way to here with fictitious promises. WE should ask these solicitors to go away. They possibly seek to get the anchor of the collective conscious by way of Avalon members.

As it seems to many to be the answer to what is now needed and that of a wonder to engage, I am feeling the brakes go on full hold when I read about Cybernated systems. Perhaps Venus will explain to us what exactly this means for HOW it is that this results:

"Evolving towards a CYBERNATED society that can gradually outgrow the need for all political local, national, and supra-national governments as a means of social management". If it is E-prime motivated, which is likely from cyber based systemic planning, or implanting, what then does this rabbit hole lead to?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special...rime_(software

/and how about adding this thought of the day - what our scientist have been employed doing of late.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience

Education from current events here; Could this be part of what is wanted in this Utopia?
Genetic Experiments And DNA Ownership Without Consent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgrmtMBJjcg

Humanity is in a priceless equipped meta-designed vessel waiting to be ignited and sovereign to then create anew. We cannot think that we are not being profiled for joining encampment from sources with nefarious means. Our vessels have long been sought for and will perhaps be fought over by 2012, why do you suppose? We very well could be stamped, sourced and packaged for other sources to utilize our inheritance as its own. It can only do this with compliance and acceptance to join its program of reality. WE have free will to choose. We must first remember how to feel our choices. The technology we most must practice and share is that inner one of peace; use it to come together and survey together options to act. Feel again and know again this inner technology is now in full scope to use and is human organically needed and based.

Why does Venus only offer part of a picture for this supposed societal breakthrough? Not offering this publicly, is suspicious.
Analysis of Cybernated systems or structures is a deepening sign of dependency, not inter-dependency upon life for humankind anyway. perhaps it will be great for those that are cross over alien/human forms..no offense intended and no defense felt; as this may soon purge the higher ancient ways of being a tribe again rather then blend with those not inwardly designed for such.

How can we reveal if this is not another form of indoctrination waiting to have participants? Materialism gave rise to the need for community with a singular spirit guidance that is utterly in merge with our DNA. Let us not fall prey to something not in total identification with our inner systemic organically based needs ecologically and biologically; Lest we become a Matrix of cyber-nation citizens. Re-education of how we live is what is up on the drawing board but while this is true, why are we not focused on hammering out the things which unfold potentials first, such as deregulation gone mad. The Bail out Bill is a bothering sign of this same lack of realism for all peoples. Miriam Delacado deftly mentions the notion of researching the etymology of seeds. We are the metaphor of a seed's survival searching yet for another way to live in harmony again with our own seeds and from our own root. What about Venus feels of this? Zero, for me.

Feel what you survey, then seek the truth by allowing questions no matter what is in front of you.

Project Avalon was born for this role and with our input, there is a need to survey many ideas that need to surface; yet first, we need to be sensible, remain honest with ourselves and fully grounded to our own experience of truth. Does it not make sense to first conclude that rebuilding of society should then call upon localized groups to volunteer forming by similar mind set to thrive from what we now can collectively contribute rather than economic circumstance implying membership to a Way that is Utopian blueprinted by a few?. Do you feel the truth about Venus and its Way of project-ive solutions?
Let me hear from you on this as you realize from your own insights.[/QUOTE]





Yes, Member Kelle Baley, i do feel the truth about Venus and its Way of project-ive solutions.

Isn't gathering and critically examining information( both intuitively and by way of contre-checking); building Sound Communities upon shared views and values and drawing plans in order to move forward, upon Rationality, Faisability and Harmony with Nature and Mother earth the True Essence of Project Avalon?

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Yes, Member Kelle Baley, i do feel the truth about Venus and its Way of project-ive solutions.

Isn't gathering and critically examining information( both intuitively and by way of contre-checking); building Sound Communities upon shared views and values and drawing plans in order to move forward, upon Rationality, Faisability and Harmony with Nature and Mother earth the True Essence of Project Avalon?

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