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Old 09-30-2008, 04:35 AM   #26
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Of what use is a 'whistle blower" if the whistle he blows is not in tune with another "whistle blower"?

Of what use is a "disclosure project" that has people stand up and state their name rank and serial number and say that they are willing to testify before congress... then sit down having disclosed nothing?

Of what use is a "whistle blower" when he provides hints to look for then denies them once someone else digs up the facts?

"disclosure" will only happen in drips and drops for the foreseeable future... but when anything strange happens in the news someone will jump up and say "See? This is what I was talking about!"

"disclosure" will only happen to those who understand what is really going on... does anyone know what is really going on? With all the confusion by the "whistle blowers" there is no way to know which is real, which is false, or which is deliberate misinformation...

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Old 09-30-2008, 07:08 AM   #27
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Zorgon,
How would you know the real truth if you heard it?
Unless, you had something to measure it against?

Find that and you will find the truth.

May I suggest the bible, WITHOUT religion.

As your signature states, ""The louder the opposition protests, the more I know I am on
the right track"" CS crater chains are weapon strikes. There are agents in these forums,
some call them "trolls", there are ET's posting in forums that are also called "trolls", our
definitive research over the past few years have shown that there is a marked posting
methodology to each type of poster that identifies them as to "why" they are posting.

You are a smart person, you will figure it out.
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Old 09-30-2008, 08:15 AM   #28
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Zorgon,
How would you know the real truth if you heard it?
When 800 years old YOU are, learn a truth or two you do, yes? Hmmm?

Have studied many 'bibles' and found my path a long time ago...

Agree with you on agents in the forums... I have a list of names at ATS and one came to visit for three days.

Agree with you that there are ET's lurking about with bad intentions, but I also know some wear Military uniforms of rank in our Air Force

Disagree with you that the crater chains are weapons strikes...

Agree with you that there was interplanetary war that destroyed one planet, moved the Earth further out from the sun and stripped the water and atmosphere from Mars

It is further a 'truth' that approx 80% of UFO sightings are in fact plasma based life forms that are harmless and have existed in and around Earth for a very long time.... These creatures exist on the borders of the visible spectrum and are attracted by plasma. They possess intelligence but perhaps not as we know it... They are aware of us

I believe the current energy output of the Sun may be 'feeding' them and making them more visible... hence the increase in these types of sightings...

It is a 'truth' that Global warming is not our fault and a natural cycle of the Planet... nothing we can do about it except buy more sunblock

It is a 'truth' that the tether experiment of STS 75 was indeed a success and the resulting plasma sheath on the broken tether maintained the circuit despite what they tell us about currents in space...

This was further backed up by the SECOND tether flown a month later by the OTHER space program (Which is and always has been the NAVY). This tether was active for two years and was used as a test to send power from the ground via high power laser 'cannons' that are 'disguised' to the public as astronomical research devices

It is a 'truth' that Gary McKinnon found the list of non-terrestrial officers... I have the NAVY Cadre of 700 'space experienced' officers and several thousand military and civilian support personel. The Navy began “coding” officers as space subspecialists in 1980 under NAVADMIN 201/03 DTG211435Z JUL 03 announcing the first 700 officer members of the cadre. These officers were identified by the subspecialty codes of 6206, Space Systems Operations, and 5500, Space Systems Engineering or by the additional qualification designator of VS1, VS2, VS3 or VS4. Approximately 265 billets are currently identified as space billets.

It is a 'truth' that a spacecraft codenamed "Aquila", a cargo vessel, was launched to the moon from the Marshall Islands two months before Apollo 11. This same vessel comes up again in documents related to Mars missions and liquid cargo transfer from the Moon... The "Aquila" is made by Starcraft Boosters. Starcraft Boosters is owned by Buzz Aldrin, the 33rd degree Freemason who went to the Moon on Apollo 11

It is a 'truth' that the US Army under the direction of Major General Trudeau laid out the plans to have a base on the Farside of the Moon by 1962. The pland were completed 1959. Project lead was Wernher von Braun. Wernher von Braun also at the same time collaborated with Walt Disney to make a Movie about a base on the Farside of the Moon... as a cover story. One of the images from that is still floating around the internet as a Moon Base

The US Army division that was the head of this project was SMDC (U.S. Army Space and Missile Defense Command/U.S. Army Forces Strategic Command). This is the SAME command that runs Redstone Arsenal where the German Scientists first went after WWII. This is the SAME command that runs the Ronald Reagan Test Site U.S. Army Kwajalein Atoll (USAKA). They also have Deep Space Operations and NASA Space Operations and Experiments. They are located in the Republic of the Marshall Islands (RMI), and have free reign to do anything they want, in return for the USA "renting" the entire Republic of the Marshall Islands

They also use Johnston Island and Wake Island..

Wake Island, located 1,100 kilometers north of the Kwajalein Atoll, is a functional adjunct to RTS, providing a launch site for intermediate range NMD and TMD target missiles. Program requirements, mission planning and implementation, and logistics support are coordinated through the Reagan Test Site.

Go and see what is on these Islands...
Wake Island 19° 18′ 0″ N, 166° 38′ 0″ E
Johnston Atoll 16° 45′ 0″ N, 169° 31′ 0″ W

It is a 'truth' that Google Earth does NOT show you everything


How would I know the real truth if I heard it?

I go look it up

Like I did with Henry Deacon's "Project Looking Glass" and "Shiva Nova" which are now gone

As to the "War of the Planets" that can be found in old Tibetan Scrolls that are accesable to certain errrr 'esoteric societies'

It is also a 'truth' that I grow weary of showing people 'truth' who do not care about finding it
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Old 09-30-2008, 08:22 AM   #29
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OH One more thing...

You are familiar with the term "You reap what you sow"?

Well to all those who talk constantly of gloom and doom and the end of days, Nibiru will destroy us, the NWO is coming etc etc etc...

I wonder if it occurs to anyone that feeding this negative makes it more likely to manifest?

Fortunately the minds that are for positive forces, while not necessarily more powerful that the 'dark side' do have on thing in their favor. They are more focused on making things happen for the good of all, whereas the doom sayers are disorganized with no purpose...

THAT is what gives 'good' the advantage...

This is a 'truth' no matter which Religion suits your fancy
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Old 09-30-2008, 12:14 PM   #30
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I think about how much money is spent on all these projects Zorgon so graciously writes about and then I think about the state of the economy......HELLO


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Old 09-30-2008, 07:14 PM   #31
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Hey there Zorgon,
Great response, all things considered, I couldn't have done better myself. We well know
where all "whistle blowers" get their information. And each has their information at that
level of the "lie" of what they were involved with, or, seemingly involved with.

All from within "government, religious, and deceptively bad ET (fallen angels) sources".

While I am not the least bit "religious", I do accept the bible, and many other ancient
records, for the truth they carry from a technological comprehension.

Oh, one more thing, , ,
Quite familiar with that term.
Yes, I agree, and more etc, , , all kinds of doom and gloom distractions.
Not any more likely to make it manifest, than those good ET's out there (angels) that have
all ready won the war in our solar system against the bad ET's and thrown them down
here to the earth. Well, the survivors cowardly fled here.

I positively know and am told to lift my head high and "know" that our deliverance is near
when I see these thing happening in our world. Now that is uplifting knowledge of what
the bible says will soon take place. Disclosure, that is what it is all about. Yes, the "good"
has the advantage and we know what to do and when. No need for a thousand books to
tell us that, I'll take the one called the bible. And it ain't about "religion", it has only been
"religionized" by those to deceive ones into their "religions". It's about disclosure and truth
of the ET / UFO connection.
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:32 AM   #32
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Began in 1994?!?!

I think it is a fact that "disclosure" began probably before you were born.

It did before I was born, and I am 57.
Perhaps you misunderstood, the disclosures by The Voice began in Feb of 1994


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Old 10-01-2008, 02:44 AM   #33
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Ohhhhh that disclosure, no, I wouldn't know if that was correct or not, sorry.
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:52 AM   #34
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go write it down in the thread; why things are AWESOME!!!
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Old 10-01-2008, 03:20 AM   #35
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hey guys...i consider this something along the lines of whistleblowing..

this to me is very disturbing......

to many classified areas.....you will know what i talk about when you watch it....and watch it numerous times to make sure you dont miss anything

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXfXu...eature=related

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Old 10-01-2008, 03:25 AM   #36
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Boy that sure does look real, even though its not but its probably not far from the truth.... Did it come from the onion???
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Old 10-01-2008, 04:23 AM   #37
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thats what many people say.....
but i have no clue who they are....and what their purpose is...
it was important enough for CSPAN and congress to take an eye too...
what the heck is onion
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Old 10-01-2008, 06:42 AM   #38
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If you notice the video is not C-span but there is an onion in front of the "span"... The onion is this...

http://www.theonion.com/content/index
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:20 AM   #39
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The u-tube video - the one about 1:45 min is not longer available. Someone pulled the plug.
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:20 AM   #40
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so what is onion's reputation??
even if it is from onion..which it looks to be.....does that give it no credit or any truth?
i went to the website and it seems that they post funnies about current times.
so what im getting from others is that this is fake...
excuse my french...but how the hell can someone fake this....
to me...people like to fake and be recognized for ceartin purposes.....
one being money....
why go through the trouble to fake something like this and get no benefit...

btw...the youtube video still works for me..i just pulled it up...if you are still having problems with the video..then i shall do my best to find the video some other way..

someone help me out here....this is confusing to me...
is this just childs play...or should we recognize this..
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:49 AM   #41
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It is also a 'truth' that I grow weary of showing people 'truth' who do not care about finding it
Please remember that not ALL of us fall into that catagory.
Many of us look forward to your posts/threads and we never are weary of what you have to show us.
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Old 10-02-2008, 03:44 AM   #42
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Hey there Zorgon,
Great response, all things considered, I couldn't have done better myself. We well know
where all "whistle blowers" get their information. And each has their information at that
level of the "lie" of what they were involved with, or, seemingly involved with.

All from within "government, religious, and deceptively bad ET (fallen angels) sources".

While I am not the least bit "religious", I do accept the bible, and many other ancient
records, for the truth they carry from a technological comprehension.

Oh, one more thing, , ,
Quite familiar with that term.
Yes, I agree, and more etc, , , all kinds of doom and gloom distractions.
Not any more likely to make it manifest, than those good ET's out there (angels) that have
all ready won the war in our solar system against the bad ET's and thrown them down
here to the earth. Well, the survivors cowardly fled here.

I positively know and am told to lift my head high and "know" that our deliverance is near
when I see these thing happening in our world. Now that is uplifting knowledge of what
the bible says will soon take place. Disclosure, that is what it is all about. Yes, the "good"
has the advantage and we know what to do and when. No need for a thousand books to
tell us that, I'll take the one called the bible. And it ain't about "religion", it has only been
"religionized" by those to deceive ones into their "religions". It's about disclosure and truth
of the ET / UFO connection.
Well, I am impressed. I am new here (as apparently a lot of people are) and, well, won't tell you what I expected.

You are very, very close actually.


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When 800 years old YOU are, learn a truth or two you do, yes? Hmmm?
ZORGON of Las Vegas: Are you saying you are 800 years old?

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Old 10-02-2008, 04:01 AM   #43
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Possibly, but does not help the situation, whistleblowers will hesitate coming in as will insiders if no one bothers to listen....................

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I am listening WATCHER and have followed through and watched the youtube links provided. The information contained within those interviews is paramount to understanding another layer to this multi-layered and multi-angled phenomenon.

Barry King reminds me of Dr Michael Wolf Kruvant. Both brought very important information to the table.

"Henry Deacon" is another wondrous soul whose public revelations have widen the scope of understanding.

Keep the whistleblowers coming

And thank you to all the brave souls who are willing and able to come forward and to those who protect them.

With Deep Respect,

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Old 10-02-2008, 04:28 AM   #44
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There is a person on youtube by the name of yourtubeyourass21 that has over 470 videos posted. Many of them about whistleblowers.

This one, with William M. Cooper,Secrets Behind the Illuminati and the Path to Freedom will bring you to his listings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGHvryq4sYc

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Old 10-02-2008, 04:45 PM   #45
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Triangles, dear ones. set up triangles of mind unity to make a daily vision of peace and abundance for all. 60 seconds a day united with two others making the same vision. SOLUTION. Not a great chore, and unlimited payback!
YES! This is the best suggestion I have ever seen on this forum.

From the Handbook for the New Paradigm, Message #2:

"Meet in 3s, 7s, and 12s. This is the most important step to be taken now"
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Old 10-02-2008, 04:48 PM   #46
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one of the best ones of all is currently
spilling his beans

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Nichols...2/Nichols-live -- on right NOW !!!

we are in a revolution !!! NOW !!!
or

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Nichols-live
(go back to his shows 9/29 forward)

paul revere, rides again !!!
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:30 AM   #47
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When I listened to Alex Collier's 5/18/2008 1/7 video posted on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY62dy2w5Ak
back in May, I transcribed part of it so I could remind myself and share with others:

More on Alex Collier at: stclairzone.ing.com


Hope you enjoy...

MESSAGE FROM THE ANDROMEDANS

Alex says:
"We're already who we (Earthlings) need to be; it's just a question of remembering."

"And in that remembering, it's about letting go, of what we would be perceive as mistakes, of regrets."

He asked Vissaeus ~ Andromedan:
"What's going to happen to us? What is it that you want me to do?"

Vissaeus answers:

"This is how we foresee who you all become."

"Responsible freedom of self-determination becoming truly self-confident and free. To unconditionally be responsible for yourself without being coerced by some other authority."

"The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry lifetime after lifetime."

"In being consciously aware of not choosing not to withhold love is an amazing feat and it is not an easy one either."

Alex Collier comments:
"It doesn't always mean that I make the best choices or the right choices."

Vissaeus continues:
"The most necessary action for all of your Terraview races who are aware is to do whatever you are capable of to (eliminate) illuminate your degenerated societies."

(When I first transcribed this I thought he said eliminate and now, listening to it again recently, I think he said illuminate...minute 6:18 of 4/7)

"Consciousness is your scale, it always provides balance, which does not ever fail. It speaks to those who listen and tells them what to do and what not to do. Not to one or all beings who choose to be evolved. The administrators of your government are responsible for professional order, but not your moral codes of order."

"The key to your happiness Terrans is in the hands of your own consciousness. We have perceived that you Terrans have arranged your lives not according to yourselves, but according to others."

"Your disappointments are due to this fact. This kind of conduct of yours is what is limiting your races. Each one of you is a free soul, a free consciousness. No one is the servant or slave of anyone else. Though the hidden ones will trick you to believe otherwise. Mutual respect is imperative for a healed planet and race. Our help is being extended to you if you so want it . Because of your genetic lineages to our races we would like to be there with you during your difficult times. Today your planet and your race destroys itself in ignorance."

"The goal is to recover the genuine human beings lost deep within yourselves."

"And try to always be at one with yourself."

Morenae ~ Andromedan: (1998 ~ makes reference to December 3, 2013 moving into Fifth Density)
"All of us regardless of our form or our dimensional growth, live in a boundless consciousness. It does appear that all things seem to revolve and evolve in cycles."

"Now after the blindness of 5725 years, you and your Terra are about to regain yourselves. It will be such an unprecedented change that it will be difficult for many to grasp their own potential. It is the turning point on your world which none of your planet's forefathers were privileged to ever experience."

Alex explains:
"In Andromeda one of the things that they stress is creating a race of leaders. In that leadership everyone has a responsibility to not only be a leader themselves but to make a leader of everyone else. And in that, everyone moves together. There may be varying different degrees, but everyone moves together. This is something that they have stressed over and over and over again. They have also stressed being as close to nature as possible."

"We are the only planet, that Alex is aware of, that uses currency. In fact, he had an experience where Morenae and Vissaeus had asked him to try to explain to them why we used money or what they referred to as paper with pictures on it."

"I spent a great deal of time in between contacts putting something together for them. I had a contact and had this opportunity to present this information to them."

"As I was presenting it, I was going through it, I had a paper with me that I was reading it off and had little charts that I had carried in my back pack. Of course they already knew this information since they had been watching our history."

"And when it was all over."

Morenae says:
"Thank you very much I enjoyed it."

Vissaeus just looked at him and had a very straight face and said:
"I don't understand."

Alex says:
"What don't you understand?"

Vissaeus responds:
"I don't understand why you have to pay to live on a planet you were born on?"

Alex says:
"That haunted me for many years, that statement."

Alex continues:
"How do we unravel that? What do we create in order to drop that paradigm? And how do we create it? Who is going to step up and say you know what, we have fought wars over money, we have fought wars over gold, we have fought wars over this and fought wars over that, We have nearly destroyed the planet. We have destroyed species. We're destroying humanity. And it's all over power, wealth and things like that. How do we move from this paradigm to the next paradigm? How do we do it?"

"I know there are a lot of folks trying, making suggestions, talking to people, sharing their perspectives."

"The extraterrestrial civilizations have given up on the governments of the Earth a long time ago. The only ones that are fully integrating with a lot of the Earth's governments you don't really want to know anyway."

"How do we find our soul again? What does it take to change the essence of a man? Is there a phrase? Is there a mantra? Is there a prayer? Is there an event? What does it take to change the essence of a man or a woman?"

"I do not have the answer but I am asking the question and have been for a long time."

"Many of us have completely lost our way. We know a lot of good people who would do anything for us as friends, but they simply don't have a clue. We want them to be aware of the changes that are coming. You can put all this information in front of them and they're simply going to just dismiss it, because it is too overwhelming to them. They have to take it in little bites and little slices. They just simply don't want to deal with it because they are so overwhelmed just trying to manage a life that already doesn't work. Or, they're not already happy with, because it's all that they know and they're afraid to let it go because they don't have anything else to believe in, just what it is that they do every day."

"In creating a new domain of knowing and asking the question, what is it that we want? It has to be something that everybody can take hold of a piece of."

Alex continues:
"For example, every day there are little things that we could do to begin shifting our consciousness. Every day when we get up, the first thing we should do is be grateful that we're alive to see another day. And just make that acknowledgment...Spirit, thank you."

"Always tell your children that you love them. Every day. Tell them that you're proud of them. Always tell your wife that you love her or your partner that you love him or her. Always be friendly and cordial at the office. When you hear an ambulance drive by just say a blessing. Say I bless whoever that's for and that their highest good is what is achieved. Little things like that."

"When you walk into a room, just say I bless this room. Little things like that make all the difference. Because it's conscious intent that every day when you do things like that, those things are easy to do. What you do is you begin to polarize, you begin to magnetize those spaces with your thoughts. And whatever you magnetize and you put out, it will come back, it will be mirrored back to you. That is why Earth is the boot camp for the soul. It's because that's what it does, it mirrors our shist back to us. You know, and the more shist...the more shist. (laughter) And that's why it's so overwhelming after a while."

"So it's little things. Because these are things I've had to try to do and I struggle to remember them every day. These are little things that I can do. I bless my food and bless my coffee. What you do is just get into a space of blessing everything and it does in fact change the frequency. It will change the people that you work with. It might take a little while. But these are simple things; just little things that you can remember to do every day. At lunch time go for a walk, don't just sit in your cubicle, go outside. If you have to go to the bathroom, don't go right back to your cubicle, go outside make a loop around the building. Give yourself a break, just remember where you are. Don't get stuck in just being so in a rut that you forget. Because it's easy. That's why we're so stuck on Earth."

"The extraterrestrials, the visitations, the psychic phenomena, the paranormal phenomena. All of that stuff is us. It's all happening to us because it is us. These are all reminders of who we are. All we have to do is get out of our own way."

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Old 12-09-2008, 03:27 AM   #49
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Some ARE here but seemingly not listened to or even acknowledged!!

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This is true. Sent them two requests to document ppl using children as tools in their own state and not so much as a 'We're to busy documenting aliens at the moment.'

It's stuck me as odd and makes me wonder whether they're a 'captivist' group not interested in reality, but bird dogging those dangerous whisleblowers...
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Old 12-09-2008, 05:21 AM   #50
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Some ARE here but seemingly not listened to or even acknowledged!!

THE WATCHER
Who are ?
Please tell us of just one you think is not being listened to and is legit?
I ask because you seem to know with that statement above.
I'll await your response.

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