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Old 09-08-2008, 10:14 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?

That's.

Why is the reason?

Please, read Vatican Assassins 3er Edition. 1836 pags all about the Vatican and the Jesuits controling, the CFR, New Age movements, Knights of Malta, Masons, World Bank, zionist, etc. All of the creepy organizations!

Look in google for the Alberto Ribera's story. The Chicks publications about his life, you can read some of the comics here:

http://www.chick.com/reading/comics/...thersindex.asp

You can watch this amazing lecture about the Secret Behind the Secret Societies


The only media who touch this Super-important topic is the Dr. Bill Deagle's Nutrimedical Report Show in Genesis Radio Network, he isn't afraid of it.

You can see it here : www.nutrimedical.com and www.clayandiron.com

You can listen it here any time: http://www.gcnlive.com/Programs/Nutr...On_Demand.html

You can see some jesuits facts here: http://www.clayandiron.com/news.jhtm...w&news.id=1511


Some famous Jesuits quotes:


"In a country where there are Jesuits, they must either rule or the country must go to ruin, it is they who rule the world." -Luigi Desanctis, official Censor of the Inquisition, Protestant Reformed pastor (1852)


"The Illuminati consist of the Jesuits and some of the world's richest families including the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers and the Windsors. While they pay lip service to religion, they worship Lucifer. Their agents control the world's media, education, business and politics. These agents may think they are only pursuing success, but success literally means serving the devil. Prisoners of their wealth, the Illuminati prefer hatred and destruction to Love. Understandably, they can't go public with this. They pretend to be moral while working behind the scenes to degrade and enslave humanity in a "new world order." Hiroshima, Dresden, Auschwitz, Cambodia and Rwanda were sacrifices to their god Lucifer. They are responsible for the two World Wars, the Depression and the Cold War. Sept. 11, the War on Terror and the Iraq War are their latest achievements". The Illuminati Conspiracy Against God by HENRY MAKOW PhD


"That the Jesuits were the disturbers of kingdoms, the oppressors of nations, the masters of the world, I freely admit." -Marcel de la Roche Arnauld, Roman Catholic Priest (1827)


"The Society of the Jesuits has the power to hide the sun, and make men blind and deaf to its caprice." -Montlarc (circa 1700)


"It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country - the United States of America - are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated most of the wars of Europe." - General Lafayette, aide to General George Washington (1799)


"The Jesuits are a naked sword, whose hilt is at Rome but its blade is everywhere, invisible until its stroke is felt." -Andre Dupin, French Statesman, member of King Louis Philippe's Cabinet which expelled the Order (1831)


"They are a public plague, and the plague of the world! Every species of vice finds its patronage in them. There is no perjury, nor sacrilege, nor parricide, nor incest, nor rapine, nor fraud, nor treason which cannot be masked as meritorious beneath the mantle of their dispensation." -Paolo Sarpi, Italian Roman Catholic historian of the Jesuits? Council of Trent (1620)


"The Jesuits are a military organization, not a religious order. Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And the aim of this organization is: Power. Power in its most despotic exercise. Absolute power, universal power, power to control the world by the volition of a single man. Jesuitism is the most absolute of despotisms: and at the same time the greatest and most enormous of abuses? The general of the Jesuits insists on being master, sovereign, over the sovereign. Wherever the Jesuits are admitted they will be masters, cost what it may. Their society is by nature dictatorial, and therefore it is the irreconcilable enemy of all constituted authority. Every act, every crime, however atrocious, is a meritorious work, if committed for the interest of the Society of the Jesuits, or by the order of the general." -Napoleon Bonaparte.


We're beginning to see how more than 150 years ago, the General of a subversive military power called the Jesuits could brag to Duke de Brissac, "From this room, your grace, I govern not only Paris, but China - not only China, but the whole world - and all without any one knowing how it is done." [Constitution of the Jesuits 1843]


Enlight the top of the pyramid!


(ok, the top of the pyramid is off our world but you know.. ha)



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Old 09-09-2008, 03:20 AM   #2
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That's.

Why is the reason?

Please, read Vatican Assassins 3er Edition. 1836 pags all about the Vatican and the Jesuits controling, the CFR, New Age movements, Knights of Malta, Masons, World Bank, zionist, etc. All of the creepy organizations!

Look in google for the Alberto Ribera's story. The Chicks publications about his life, you can read some of the comics here:

http://www.chick.com/reading/comics/...thersindex.asp

The only media who touch this Super-important topic is the Dr. Bill Deagle's Nutrimedical Report Show in Genesis Radio Network, he isn't afraid of it.

You can see it here : www.nutrimedical.com and www.clayandiron.com

You can listen it here any time: http://www.gcnlive.com/Programs/Nutr...On_Demand.html

You can see some jesuits facts here: http://www.clayandiron.com/news.jhtm...w&news.id=1511

Enlight the top of the pyramid!

(ok, the top of the pyramid is off our world but you know.. ha)
I fully agree with you.

There needs to be more investigation into the Papacy and the Jesuits.

What is the purpose of the Jesuit Order? Why does it exist? It is quite simple: the Jesuits seek to convert the world to Roman Catholicism. And in order to achieve this goal, they have not hesitated to use every means, both fair and foul – especially foul. They have not hesitated to lie, cheat, commit murder, or use revolution, if need be, to further their aims. At the very top of their priorities has always been the destruction of spiritual free will, as shall be seen. For the spiritual conflict must be discerned in all this: Satan’s ages-long war on the Church of the living God (Rev.12). For centuries, Rome has been the centre of Satan’s assault on the saints of God (Rev. 13:7; 17:1-6; 18:24; Dan. 7:25). Through the Inquisition and other means, the devil sought to wipe out the Church of Christ. Then, with the formation of the Jesuit Order in the sixteenth century, a new and deadly weapon was created to be used against biblical Christianity.
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:32 AM   #3
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Because extraterrestrial forces control their programmed effort. They are just the current force to do this for momentary exclusivity. Impermanence. There was a different pyramid in place before a Jesuit was called a jesuit.

Nice, robust post, however.
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Old 09-09-2008, 05:24 AM   #4
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all religions "they" created,only w/christianity it became out of control..their control....
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:17 PM   #5
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Never forget this topic: Jesuits controls NWO.

And off world entities controls Jesuits.

But we all are inside a larger game.

We come to earth to experience something we sign before we came. So you have one option:

Enjoy your life!
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:41 PM   #6
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all religions "they" created,only w/christianity it became out of control..their control....
True.

In a sense, it all depends on which theory you subscribe to or how you interpret your research. Although, I believe that the Papacy and it's various internal organisations such as the Jesuits play a major role in how the world is controlled, through the bloodlines in Europe and America, it seems that they are pawns of the off world entities that Ashatav mentioned earlier.

I am a subscriber to some of the theories of Lynn Marzulli. Have a listen to this Youtube series on Endtime Deception and the Crystal Skulls: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3Cqt6TIPXA

This coupled with the theories from Zeitgeist, the movie and Vatican Assassins could provide some useful insights.
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Old 09-11-2008, 10:12 PM   #7
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Let's talk about the Jesuits men.
They created Devilish New Age Movement (yeah, know the ascended masters are a divilish Scam, and all the contactees, bill Deagle says it!)

The World banks, CFR, TC, Bildergbergs.

The Evangelists to.

Many groups, by them and the Knights of Malta (civilian branch)

Realize it, they life are dedicated to infiltration.

Read Vatican Assassins and Fr. Alberto Ribera History. Google them.

The alternative media NEVER touch those topics. They guide your atention to other sources, to the syntom not the source of the problem.

The only Alternative medio tuching this is Greg Szymansky's http://www.arcticbeacon.com/

Dr. Bill Deagle
www.Nutrimedical.com / www.Clayandiron.com

Eric John Phelps Radio show.

Google them.

Know What are behind the problems, being the heart of it, not in front being just the face.
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Old 09-12-2008, 04:21 AM   #8
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No, they were not the first to create anything.

The J's were liers from the start and the origional IAC agents.
IAC agents = Informational Acquisitional and Control

They want to know what you know and how you learned it.

Keep thinking and researching ~! ~! !
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Old 09-12-2008, 07:59 AM   #9
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ups sorry my mistake, the evangelist are infiltrated by them.

Really have to look out the Alberto Ribera's history, it gives you a clear picture about the catolic church and the jesuits.

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Old 09-13-2008, 04:34 AM   #10
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People have to progress along the rabbit hole at their own pace. First get em used to the idea that the Bush administration are the ultimate evil, then move em on to the Rockefeller/Rothschild global mafia families, then move em on to mutliple banking families, then zionists(they may be one and the same, not sure), then jesuits, then possibly extra terrestrial beings. But hopefully it doesn't move on to aliens because I'd rather this be a problem fixed by a mass revolution against malevolent humans.

But yeah, people just have to start off small. If you try to expose people to Jesuits and the Vatican right off the bat but not get them used to the smaller "state sponsored terror" idea, then they'll get confused and think you've just been reading too much Dan Brown. I myself are at the level of "banking families/zionists" level and I know little of Jesuits. But once I'm know a good bit about them, I'll be more than happy to talk about them.
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Old 09-13-2008, 05:30 AM   #11
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Walter Veith gives a historical view regarding the Jesuits and Catholic church in this video : "The Secret behind Secret Societies". It is given from a Christian perspective, but well researched non the less.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ocieties&hl=en
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Old 09-13-2008, 06:11 AM   #12
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I think the fact that few researchers expose the Jesuits gives credence to how much power and influence they have.
"Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?" I think researchers either don't know about them, are working for them, or are too afraid to talk about them. If Eric Jon Phelps is correct in how extensive their influence is then it would seem ridiculous that prominent researchers out there wouldn't know about them. Leo Zagami has been recently labeled as a coadjutor by Szymansky and Phelps. You know, it could be because there isn't much information available for researchers to go into detail. I don't know. The Jesuits are an important piece of the puzzle that needs to be discussed more.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...KJ9fDOAg&hl=en
http://www.spirituallysmart.com/
http://vaticanassassins.org/
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:42 PM   #13
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Leo Zagami talked with Eric John Phelps and then he withdraw the acusation of being a coadjuntor of the jesuits.


Really this video are great expaining who is in charge really.

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Thanks for the correction.

Do you have a link for that? I'd really like to see that, Ashatav.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:08 PM   #15
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Nice link Ashatav.

Please keep up the work on exposing the Jesuits and the Vatican. This is very important and I do hope the members here will take a keen interest into it. We need to move away from the constant talk about Rothschilds and Rockefellers, Republicans and Democrats, McCain and Obama,...

Time to look at the top of the pyramid.
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No, they were not the first to create anything.

The J's were liers from the start and the origional IAC agents.
IAC agents = Informational Acquisitional and Control

They want to know what you know and how you learned it.

Keep thinking and researching ~! ~! !
I have done that, thinking and researching. I am not sure whom you are referring to in saying '- no, they were not the first to create anything.'

I do not think that the Jesuits were the original IAC agents. The game is much, much older.

To put the Jesuits on top of the pyramid is also a bit optimistic. The Devil one knows is easier to vanquish than the more hidden layers of the Apex.

For our benefit, I think there are several groups vying for hegemony. They fight each other, thus weaken each other. Steven Greer mentions the Mormons as contenders in this competition.

Ashatav gives a link to an old esoteric society originating in Afghanistan on another thread. They describe a dictatorial New Wold Order as their aim thousands of years ago! Check it out.
I'll find it and get back to it.
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Old 09-18-2008, 08:14 PM   #17
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I recherche the power structure of the tyranny now a time.
At the beginning i thought that the bankers are the most powerful organization in the power structure. But this is wrong. They owe and organize all physical wealth, and it is there jop to steal all wealth from the world. But the priesthood it and was in all times the intellectual center of the tyranny. It is there jop to lock behind the physical world, and there jop to steal all the knowledge from the world. And knowledge is match more then material wealth. If you see a culture rotten in egoism, you will see all the time, the priesthood is the most rotten place of all, because priest under egoism become spiritual poison mixers, to build there sick imperials to slave all under them.

I expect the vatican is the center of the tyranny, together whit other powerful priesthoods. Or in other words, there sit the bosses of all bosses over all bosses of the mafia. (if you understand how mafia organizations work, and expand this to include all the world can over, you become a idea how the tyranny work. Many groups in permanent concurrence but whit one common goal and under a hierarchical power structure. For now, the building still is not finish and different groups fight for predominance.)
Way the vatican?, simply because it was the most successful organization in this barbarian game.

We know now there are 2 sides, the white pope in the open and the black pope in the darkness (the jesuit general).
But i expect a trinity, so there has to by a synthesis of this 2 sides, or the boss of this two popes. For now i fount no information's, who or what this could be, but i expect there is a hidden king.

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Old 09-19-2008, 01:23 AM   #18
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I also find it strange that there isn't much talk about the Jesuits when they obviously have immense power. But are they really at the very top? I don't know, I consider them a part of the Illuminati. Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Jesuits... in a way they have common goals but at the same time, treacherous bastards as they all are, I believe all of them have their own agenda and each of these factions would like to think of themselves as being at the very top.

The Jesuits focus on the religious aspect but thinking that converting everyone to catholicism is their GOAL... nope, not a goal, just means. Because if you ask yourself "why do they want everyone to be catholic" then you get the answer to what their goal is. If they succeeded in that, they would be like gods on earth - if all earth is catholic and they're the top of the catholic pyramid, they have all the power. The goal is simply power and control. Just like with Rockefellers/Rothschilds or any other big time a**holes. It just so happens that their prefered way to achieve this goal is through religion. And one thing they have and others don't, is the Vatican Library, which is of more than just little importance, and a decent advantage for them. Because seriously, you don't believe they want to make everyone catholic because they want all people to have the right faith and to be "saved", right?

Converting everyone to catholicism is in my opinion impossible, ever. So plan B would be... killing everyone who doesn't want to convert? Oh wait, that sounds way too familiar, a history lesson maybe? I don't think they would mind doing that. Besides, Eric John Phelps says they're more of a military organization than religious, as for the structure, and I have no reason to not believe that. So in the end they are not that different from the other power-hungry factions. I'm not sure if they're at the very top. But I'm sure they want to be.
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Old 09-21-2008, 07:19 AM   #19
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Actualy are very little amount of people who talk about the Jesuits and the Catholic church. Look at the history of them, all ends dead! Alberto Rivera and Chiniqui where assessinated after several atempts. The majority of the books about the subjet are misteriously stolen of libraries, etc.

They have a GREAT network of desinfo, actually they are historically good at decieving. Now, look at Alex Jones, he NEVER touch the subjet. Leo Zagami says he are there exactly for that purpose, to make the courious people, who likes these topics unaware of the real top. He are the show for the curious. Look at this about the topic.

Look at these interesting things:

A good talk about Jesuits: part 1, part 2.

Knights of Malta. A civil branch who serves the vatican, do you know that many of the cia directors are of that organization?

Knights of Columbus: political focused vatican serving organization.

Bill Schnoebelen says that before he could be a catholic priest he must be a Satanic priest! Google him!

Bohemian groove: Look at the history, in wikipedia if you like, of Bohemia (why alex jones didn't show any catholic reference or catholic mass? there are a lot in there).

Look at this video in the 12 minute are a list of really important figures who are inside vatican organizations.

Look at this realy good video "Exposing the satanic empire" it's really good for introducing these topics (it has some flaws but gives a great big picture). Look at alberto Rivera chick's comics to, enlightening ones.


Why the 2 presidents of the invaders countries in Irak wet to have the pope blessing before the end of they goverment? The thing is Bush may have a lot of muscle power but without the blessing of the pope, hush! he banish from the face of the earth.

The thing the catholic church are the Mother of all the stupid organizations who have terrenal power and no trascendence in the spiritual realm like the bilderbergs, illuminati, etc.

That's because the catholic church aren't a cristian religion, are a Mistery cults/mythraistic amalgalm with a cristian face. The Zeus statues becomes st. Peter and Venus becomes mary (who are put in there to diminish the figure of Jehoshua).

Really, there are a LOT of information, just search in internerd.

PD: Now, Leo Zagami says that a positive shift of counciousness are going on an the jesuit are trying to control the spiritual side of people searching for a new Messiah, ha, ha yes sure, they can't do that, forget it, the people will not buy it.

Cheers!

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Old 09-21-2008, 07:54 AM   #20
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excellent info

thank you for sharing it

susan

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ps; i'll bet they created confession, so, if you confess something bad , the priest sends someone out,
to get their share (no longer, will 10-15% enough,
depending on the sin, it would be give us a 1/3 or a 1/2 of it) i think people are starting to see right through these clowns !!!
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:16 PM   #23
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Because the Jesuits aren't at the top of the pyramid, no secret society is.

Eric Phelps leaves important historical facts out if they do not conform to his beliefs, like the garbage about Adam Weishaupt being a jesuit priest. Such statements are hilarious to anyone who actually takes the time to research...

With people like him and Leo Zagami out there, the jesuits are sure to keep their power for many decades to come.
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:35 PM   #24
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again,i will will stress everyone research "TEUTONIC ZIONISM". this has nothing to do with jews. jordan maxwell says this group is key to everything happening today. these are the people who became the original knights templar. jesuits are involved and later they merged masonic and jewish kabbalists. he says this is key.
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Wasn't it a Jesuit at the meeting where the government and military met with ET's back in the 50's? Signed some sort of a surrender to the ET's, a treaty?
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