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Old 02-03-2010, 07:53 PM   #51
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I don't have all the answers

and Im not defending any beliefs

Im just questioning your certainty


I am sceptic about Collier Sitchin and the Andromedans

for it could all be pure fiction and fantasy with a motive


an orchestrated psyops operation for future false flag

to turn our culture's focus from Christ and His teachings


to replace Scripture with speculations as

there is no Savior and no Grace

you are all on your own


if not for our brothers and sisters the Andromedans

whom we will never meet by the way

but they will be watching and guiding us


to Nowhere
But you do defend these beleifs, not Creation.

Of course you can question what appears as my certainty, you are welcome to do so. I am also doing the same thing . There is nothing into Sitchin and Collier that has the purpose to turn our culture from Christ and his teaching.

Christ's teaching is not unified on Earth. It does not represent human beleif in overall. Don't get me wrong, I don't under value Christ's teaching, but you seem to think Christianity is the world beleif, which is not the case.

And the andromedans are not here to replace the 'scripture'. They are here to clarify and inform. Maybe, Sitchin and Collier and Summers and the whole lot of UFO contactee and researchers are under a psyops to mislead us into false beleives... It is a maybe I do not endorse.

My maybe is; the 'scripture' you defend and the beleif that comes with it were once true and authentical. Up to a point that it really bothers the ones 'in charge', so not able to destroy it, they simply infiltrated it, corrupted it, to a point where it is no more challenging their influence and control over the masses. But rather, help them to maintain us into a beleif system that perpetrate a victim consciousness.

Here is the real fantasy... That is what I question, it is all over, it is official, it has caused many wars and death. This is not what Creation's defend and endorse. You judge a tree by its fruits, remember...

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Old 02-03-2010, 09:19 PM   #52
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Don't get me wrong, I don't under value Christ's teaching, but you seem to think Christianity is the world beleif, which is not the case.

My maybe is; the 'scripture' you defend and the beleif that comes with it were once true and authentical. Up to a point that it really bothers the ones 'in charge', so not able to destroy it, they simply infiltrated it, corrupted it, to a point where it is no more challenging their influence and control over the masses. But rather, help them to maintain us into a beleif system that perpetrate a victim consciousness.

Here is the real fantasy... That is what I question, it is all over, it is official, it has caused many wars and death. This is not what Creation's defend and endorse. You judge a tree by its fruits, remember...

lol I know Christianity is part and parcel of our culture

and not the only belief in the world


you wont hear me saying

the Muslims are mistaken or the Buddha got it wrong


Religions are cups dipping into the Ocean of Divinity

it's just a taste of truth


Religions and guns do not cause war and death

that is us missing the shot though the bullet might hit


victims blame a concept or a gun
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Old 02-03-2010, 09:53 PM   #53
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...Religions and guns do not cause war and death..
Sure, but who creates Religions and guns and use them to death? Aren't they the same as the ones who corrupted the "scriptures"?

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Old 02-03-2010, 11:26 PM   #54
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Sure, but who creates Religions and guns and use them to death? Aren't they the same as the ones who corrupted the "scriptures"?

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Tools are dead. Books are dead. What makes them alive are we. You can use a knife to cut a piece of bread for your child or you can slice someone`s throat.
It`s up to you. Knife will not be judged tomorrow in the courtroom ,you will.

That is same with scriptures and all other things . People used it wrongly. People misused it to bring tyranny and slavery against other people.
One of the most powerful tools is using a thing (whose assumed usage is actually for good) - for evil. That way you hide your true intention in the beginning. When you do that ,people fall your prey. Then when they are taken by surprise and still confused ,you show your real face ...then is usually too late for people because then they are enslaved and bribed. Very few fight over this after they were lured in.

But other thing is interesting ,namely WHO sparks the thought in people`s heads to start thinking about cloaking & enslaving & ruling others?
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Old 02-04-2010, 12:10 AM   #55
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...People used it wrongly. People misused it to bring tyranny and slavery against other people...
It makes me think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_GDm...eature=related

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Old 02-04-2010, 10:53 AM   #56
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Sure, but who creates Religions and guns and use them to death? Aren't they the same as the ones who corrupted the "scriptures"?

I cannot find corruptions

in Jesus words about ethics

and His critique of the scribes


perhaps the answer to your question

is that the hypocrites who crucified Him

share the same self serving values as TPTB

today as then


if TPTB at a time did corrupt the Bible

then why not change the Glory and Gospel of Jesus

so we would not question the actions of TPTB

for these two are obviously at a discord with each other


Religions are reminiscences of a Divine Intervention

with a specific culture at a point in time

and serve as a preservative of this Incident for the posterity


guns are molded from the elements of Creation

and can be used for protection or destruction

the one holding the gun is responsible for it's use

soldier cop criminal citizen


since the Universe is not square but a sphere

there is some merit in the soldiers use of guns to protect the country

but hardly 5000 miles away from home


each of us is automatically responsible for our actions

whether we like it take it or not

such is the beauty of one of these Laws that Governs Creation


the Law of Cause and Effect






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You remember this popular idea in the gospel; ''Love your enemy''... Well, I really think it was not the genuine idea. I believe it was rather like: ''Choose well where you send your love''
lol what are you up to here if not co-corruption of the Bible

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Old 02-04-2010, 11:33 AM   #57
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It makes me think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_GDm...eature=related

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He Steven...I enjoyed the video...Summers speaks with wisdom...

Perhaps you should make a thread of the Declaration...

http://www.humansovereignty.org/

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Old 02-04-2010, 12:26 PM   #58
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He Steven...I enjoyed the video...Summers speaks with wisdom...

Perhaps you should make a thread of the Declaration...

http://www.humansovereignty.org/

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Hello Viking. I'm glad you enjoyed it, MVS has an extrodinary experience of life to share, his book 'Step to Knowledge' is really life transforming. I made a thread about the declaration of human sovereignty last year, here: and someone posted the link you provided.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=1936

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Old 02-04-2010, 09:35 PM   #59
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...if TPTB at a time did corrupt the Bible
then why not change the Glory and Gospel of Jesus
so we would not question the actions of TPTB
for these two are obviously at a discord with each other...
...Religions are reminiscences of a Divine Intervention
with a specific culture at a point in time
and serve as a preservative of this Incident for the posterity
guns are molded from the elements of Creation
and can be used for protection or destruction
the one holding the gun is responsible for it's use
soldier cop criminal citizen...

...lol what are you up to here if not co-corruption of the Bible
Hello Redezra. The Gospel has already been changed, and you do not even need to dig into centuries of alterations. Just tell me which bible do you read. Mine is the TOB and Mary stays virgin in this version, what is yours?

Guns (or weapons) are lifeless, but the tendencies in the weapon market is making them every time more powerful and much smaller (Bush were proud to call one of them the 'mother of all bombs'). Following this tendency, one day a plane the size of your hand, traveling at mach 5, will hold the energy to blow up a whole city like Sao Paolo. Then, it will not matter who has it, the weapon becomes the threat... We are already there...

I am glad to 'co-corrupt' the bible if it is the way you see it. I have all wisdom inside available to see by myself what contradiction have been added to Jesus words... I know it doesn't sound humble, I am being honest.

I do not exclusively rely on whatever book, including the bible. I prefer to draw from my own inner well of wisdom...

You know, the prophets of the bible are just like the whistleblowers today. Some challenges the official lies that maintain a small group in control, some says the truth and some lies, some says lies and some truth. Just like in the bible...

Now tell me Redezra, you do not beleive Sitchin nor Collier, which whistleblower do you trust?

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About the different version of bibles, from king james to vaticanus. Here is a study about the subject. I am not endorsing any religion in particular. The text obviously comes from a muslim source, but regardless of the source, the study brings many evidences that any observer would see.

Some quotes: "The gospel truth is that we have no manuscript from the first century and those we do have from second century are very fragmentary and with a lot of variances than later manuscripts."

"The truth is that the differences in manuscripts are sometimes so gigantic and so successful tools on putting doubt into different Christian doctrines, that beyond any vagueness they testify to us about the corruption of the scriptures."

"One have to bear in mind that many manuscripts found in Dead Sea Scrolls are of the same family with Masoretic text, hence the Christian claim that Masoretic text is a medieval redaction done by the Jews to undermine Christian prophecies and doctrines contained within the Old Testament is a mere childish accusation. Therefore differences between Masoretic Text Manuscripts and Septuaginta Manuscripts are also without any doubt proof of the corruption of bible text as both families of manuscripts are at least of the same age."

The rest here:

http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/wp-co...d/they_say.pdf

After this reading, which version is "the true word of God"? At least, inner wisdom and Creation's presence in nature are not corruptible... Put the bible aside for a moment and take a look at nature, Creation speaks in it...

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Old 02-05-2010, 02:39 AM   #61
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The books and "stories" banned from the Bible.

A documentary on the subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3D28Ys-dp4

Some books and stories were classified, some chosen, some left out and some banned. Who made the choices and why...

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I am glad to 'co-corrupt' the bible if it is the way you see it. I have all wisdom inside available to see by myself what contradiction have been added to Jesus words... I know it doesn't sound humble, I am being honest.

lol I can't argue with that

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Just tell me which bible do you read. Mine is the TOB and Mary stays virgin in this version, what is yours?
fine Mary stays virgin in the french Bible too

as in the Venerable King James Version

what is a walk in the park for Divinity seems like miracles to us

Mary bore several children after Jesus through normal conception



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You know, the prophets of the bible are just like the whistleblowers today
lol I hope not

the Prophet is a mediator between God and a society at large

a whistleblower is just blowing whistles



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Now tell me Redezra, you do not beleive Sitchin nor Collier, which whistleblower do you trust?
why would I base my beliefs on a blower of whistles

I look to the track records of the Prophets the Saints and the Sages



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which version is "the true word of God"?
why get lost in details when one gets the gist of it
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Hehe, Redezra. I enjoyed all of your answers.

But tell me, I'm curious to know, what brings you here on Avalon? After all, Avalon is from Project Camelot, Bill and Kerry, interviews... You said "why would I base my beliefs on a blower of whistles. I look to the track records of the Prophets the Saints and the Sage". Then who are these "Prophets the Saints and the Sage", have you some in mind, tell me?

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But tell me, I'm curious to know, what brings you here on Avalon?After all, Avalon is from Project Camelot, Bill and Kerry, interviews

lol Im lost in the mist of Avalon


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Then who are these "Prophets the Saints and the Sage", have you some in mind, tell me?

nope just made it up on the go lol

I draw from the inner well of wisdom as well

and sprinkle it here and there

maybe that's why all the mist lol


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My understanding is that we dont have to "save" the world.
The greatest service we can perform to our fellow man is by making every endeavor to raise our own consciousness and in doing so we affect all else, a rising tide lifts all boats.

By all means share what we know but its almost a vanity to think me can cause other people to change their minds. We may be a catalyst that helps mind to change but to be responsible take credit for the change, I dont think so.
I dient change till I became willing to do so, then I sought out people books that would help in that change.
Where focus goes energy follows.
Higher spiritual energy will "save" the world through the desire of as yet a few to become enlightened.
Ones who are enlightened have a very powerful energy which counterbalances all the negative lower vibration.

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lol Im lost in the mist of Avalon

nope just made it up on the go lol
I draw from the inner well of wisdom as well
and sprinkle it here and there
maybe that's why all the mist lol


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...Higher spiritual energy will "save" the world through the desire of as yet a few to become enlightened.
Ones who are enlightened have a very powerful energy which counterbalances all the negative lower vibration...
. Ill keep this one with me, thanks Greybeard.

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Hey Steven, you haven't been talking to SaLuSa by any chance??

Sounds like the same language to me!!!

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...6&postcount=31

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Hey Steven, you haven't been talking to SaLuSa by any chance??

Sounds like the same language to me!!!

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...6&postcount=31

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It is quite amazing. I could not have written it this way, it's a masterpiece of Great value to me. Words are simply inefficient to express the gratitude I feel in reading it. Thank you so much.

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I have read the New Paradigm books and have seen/read everything from Alex Collier I could find on the Net. Both valued sources of information for me, as well as Emmanual.

There's so much to read on this thread, I will have to return and take some time here. But thanks for starting this thread, Steven.

It's really wonderful to have this outlet to communicate with others who are steeped in both Conspiracy Theory as well as Deep Spirituality. Ii is so much easier and more rewarding to have dialogue with people who are balanced in both. One without the other to me now seems very skewed and lacking in dimensionality.

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My understanding is that we dont have to "save" the world.
The greatest service we can perform to our fellow man is by making every endeavor to raise our own consciousness and in doing so we affect all else, a rising tide lifts all boats.

By all means share what we know but its almost a vanity to think me can cause other people to change their minds. We may be a catalyst that helps mind to change but to be responsible take credit for the change, I dont think so.
I dient change till I became willing to do so, then I sought out people books that would help in that change.
Where focus goes energy follows.
Higher spiritual energy will "save" the world through the desire of as yet a few to become enlightened.
Ones who are enlightened have a very powerful energy which counterbalances all the negative lower vibration.

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All that is said here is wise ....
i thank you also Stephen
for a great thread ..
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Thank you both Onawah and Rhythm. You are both shining stars that shed some light on Avalon and in the world.

I had a conversation with Viking and I always wanted to put this here, it really goes with the spirit of the thread.

Quote: "As long as the person has strong intent with the visualization I believe the consciousness will travel until she finds somewhere where she can create a reality…so in other words imagine your consciousness like a stream of ethereal energy finding abundance to give to you…it would travel lets say somewhere where there is abundance and share some of the abundance within your own sphere…but what if your flow on consciousness cannot find what we are visualizing…how can we create a reality which our consciousness cannot find? …

If I may answer to this question Viking... Consciousness acts in diverse dimensions, it is everywhere in everything. Consciousness gathers creative energy around itself, like a magnet, and this energy shapes the reality of the soul according to the state of its consciousness. Consciousness includes the subconscious and deep into the seat of the soul there is the memory of All that exist. So, potentially, we can create everything, the travel has to be made consciously inside to create something totally new. That is why it is said we are so powerful, in potential.
The creative energy is what some call the void, the space in between everything. This space is essential for the creative flow of energy to circulates. Love is an energy that circulates and to circulates it needs at least two creatures, a loved a lover, in between loves circulates. Creative energy takes the shapes, colors, taste of the consciousness and according to this consciousness, it is manifested in the reality where the seat of the soul stands.

What one is visualizing and feeling transforms, with time, its consciousness. Once the consciousness reached a certain threshold of change, the reality around is progressively changed.

I believe our consciousness travels further than we can imagine and reaches out as far as the heavens and further. I believe it is a universal calling card. A universal gift and whilst we can achieve most material things with our minds there are perhaps some things that we cannot create within this sphere…so when our consciousness is sifting through the goody bag , so to speak, and cannot find the image we desire then the consciousness will travel to the cosmos/heavens and ask further afield for our request.

Potentially, the consciousness is not limited. What limits the consciousness are held into the Ego. This does not makes the Ego a bad thing, it is essential, but part of the experience of the quasi separation from the source. We are the source, who divided itself into myriads of beings in all dimensions to creates, experience, evolve. This "quasi separation" is source of all sufferance, but also the beauty of the Creation, in each creatures, uniqueness, and at the same time, the presence of the One source. When we realize we are not totally separated, but rather extension of the source, the journey becomes lighter.

Over the years as our spirituality has risen and our consciousness is expanding. We are developing our senses sharper and quicker than ever in human history. We can almost have anything we want. Well almost!!

So how can we raise our consciousness enough to stop for example calamities??

The first step is to awaken. It is to be aware. Aware of our creative power, and aware of the calamities. We can only change things that we are aware of. The focus can be applied accordingly. As example, if one part of the Elite tries to eliminates 95% of the population, once we know this, and we know our creative power and how the Universal Laws works, we can focus on a humanity united, happy, free, living in abundance in respect with nature. If enough people maintains this focus, the creative energy will be shaped accordingly and the evil plan will not come to be true. But if we avoid this information because it creates fear or all sort of emotions in us, or simply if we do not know this crucial information, then our consciousness will not counter act the evil plan and it might happen. The good news is that the will of Creation IS the natural flow of creative energy, it does ask for a tremendous focus to oppose it, like the evil plan, but if we join the will of Creation, then we do not need as many people to counter act the focus of the Elite. That is why it is said we are on the winning side.

Well maybe with all our efforts we are seeing the fruits of a reality that we have all been visualizing together coming to fruition. Our thoughts have created all sorts of realities here on this sphere, and to take it one step further our consciousness has asked for help as far as it can go. So what if all the starships up there are here to share abundance and create a new world for us. What I mean by this is that they have been tweaking our planet here, there, and everywhere to save her from cataclysms. Perhaps our consciousness has been answered by above and they will make sure that we all have an easy ride during this time of changes. There will be no nuclear wars. No cataclysms. Their intervention is the direct result of our mass consciousness asking for help.

I am not sure about "all the starships", but we surely shaped the reality we have today. If we are in a dire state, it is because of centuries of victim consciousness on Earth. Wars, oppression, heroes, saviors, oppressors, etc... My ancestors said we would not have volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquake, etc... if men were in peace. And this is a very profound truth. And this victim consciousness has been cultivated carefully by our Elite and some out world manipulators. The state of the planet and the state of humanity will improve when the consciousness of enough human will improve. That is one reason why I say so often how important it is to reduce the gap between richs and poors on planet Earth. And this day is coming, I can see it around myself and everywhere in the world. The reason why the machiavellian plan of the Elite isn't going well, this time... Is because of all these thousands of thousands of people focusing, meditating, praying all for a better future. We will receive what we ask for. And we can see the impact of these small groups, H1N1 total fiasco is one example how focus can disrupt evil plan.

Have we finally reached the stars?

As soul, or as human? As soul of course, we are stars, planets, universe, atoms, flowers and everything, we are ONE, we are Creation and Creators. As human, not yet, but we will my dear, we will, of this, I am sure. It is all about consciousness, because ultimately, what will save us, is our own awakening to our own consciousness..." End of the quote.

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Hi Steven, the post I'm quoting you from now was a very good and extremely intelligent post, I was just talking about something a little similar to this subject in one of the 'Reptilian' threads. Anyway the paragraph above, re the 'crux' of my post in the other thread, was that we often prefer leading ourselves to believe the only way Sitchen, Collier, et al would disinform or mislead us into false beliefs, is that they are either shape shifting reptilians part of the nwo agenda, or that they're mind control victims, or like your example; psyops, or 'psy attack' as I've been hearing lately. Its certainly more comforting to believe that certain people must be lying to us for a spiritual or religious purpose, rather than just lie to us for the sake of it, or for the sake of their "solely-human" handlers' agendas.

What you were saying about religions and how it would start out with an authentic message, that is later skewed and corrupted and manipulated, and that this is the cause-effect we are experiencing today, the result of wars and intolerance...I couldn't agree with you more.

Really a great post Steven.
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Hi Steven, the post I'm quoting you from now was a very good and extremely intelligent post, I was just talking about something a little similar to this subject in one of the 'Reptilian' threads. Anyway the paragraph above, re the 'crux' of my post in the other thread, was that we often prefer leading ourselves to believe the only way Sitchen, Collier, et al would disinform or mislead us into false beliefs, is that they are either shape shifting reptilians part of the nwo agenda, or that they're mind control victims, or like your example; psyops, or 'psy attack' as I've been hearing lately. Its certainly more comforting to believe that certain people must be lying to us for a spiritual or religious purpose, rather than just lie to us for the sake of it, or for the sake of their "solely-human" handlers' agendas.

What you were saying about religions and how it would start out with an authentic message, that is later skewed and corrupted and manipulated, and that this is the cause-effect we are experiencing today, the result of wars and intolerance...I couldn't agree with you more.

Really a great post Steven.
Wow. Thanks Majorion. I am surprised this thread is still of interest . Even more you are appreciating it! See lately, I find it impressive how these threads are unpopular .

Sometimes, I think I should write more this way: The exponential structure of the fibonaccian multiverse records its altamatrix from the vibratoryconsciousness and simultaneously forms its circuitry into materiality.

What do you think? I could go on and on this way, will I be more understood? Am I a misfit ?

I bless you dear, Namaste, Steven

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Old 03-10-2010, 01:57 AM   #74
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Hi Steven great thread you have cover an incredible variety of subjects which are all complimentary and important in our growth process. Education of the future for our children will be much different . These are the topics which should be discussed from the early years of the cognitive and heart development of all children around the world. You should consider writing a book with this purpose in mind. You have a great natural talent to be an awesome educator in the truest sense of the word. Thank you for this thread.

Blessings to you and your family...
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Wow. Thanks Frank. To be honest, yes, I have in mind to write a book sometimes in the future. I got a lot of material not yet shown. It is where I am heading following my personal bliss. I don't know yet if I'll write it in english or french. I'm more fluent in french, but I know I might reach more people in english. Anyway, thanks again for your input! You certainly have an important place in my heart.

It makes me think of a sentence said by a brazilian writer: 'When I'll die, I will meet my Creator and he will ask me how I see the life I just lived, I will answer by opening my heart and showing him all the names in it'.

Ha! What a fulfilling gift to hold so many cherish beings into our heart!

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