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Old 10-29-2009, 02:44 AM   #26
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14_Chakras,

Thank you for expressing your thoughts. Every Human has the right and obligation to speak their mind on the important issues. I will not argue with you, for your rights to speak are inviolable and respected.

However, I reserve the right to redress issues that you have raised.

Here, following are some points which need to be considered. This is extracted from a greater text referenced at the end.


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[ Overpopulation Bomb; Destruction of the Earth; Discrimination against Women

[ The world's population will double and triple very rapidly unless the insanely uncontrolled procreation of children is stopped very soon. Undeniably, all social, political, economic, natural, environmental, climatic and ecological problems on Earth can be traced back to the population explosion, respectively overpopulation. From the population explosion to the collapse of the ecology, and the immediate future of our planet Earth.
When the population growth for the year 1993 is observed, one discovers with alarm that during this single year nearly 100 million additional humans populated the Earth. More closely scrutinized, the result shows that three newly born human beings arrived in this world every second:

1 second .. 3 humans
1 minute .. 180 humans
1 hour ..... 10,800 humans
1 day ...... 259,200 humans
1 week ... 1,814,400 humans
1 month .. 7,884,000 humans
1 year ..... 94,608,000 humans

[ The year 1994, by comparison, was once again a year in which procreation of children far exceeded the norm, and twice as many humans were born, computing the following results:

1 second ... 6 humans
1 minute ... 360 humans
1 hour ...... 21,600 humans
1 day ....... 518,400 humans
1 week ..... 3,628,800 humans
1 month ... 15,768,00 humans
1 year ..... 189,216,00 humans

[ This is a fact that was neither discovered nor realized by the "World Watchers", other organizations or statisticians concerned with these matters, for they stubbornly abide by a pseudo-calculation scheme that establishes results only by rule of thumb. The fact is, however, that some years run contrary to the statisticians' rule on population growth, and it is possible that fewer or more additional inhabitants of Earth are born during a particular year.

[ And 1994 was such a year when twice as many children were born than was anticipated. An additional element that comes into play is the fact that the world's population is considerably larger than the rule-of-thumb statistics lead others to believe, because many nations are capable of only providing population approximations, whereby many people are overlooked and this amounts to between 200 an 500 million people at any given time who are not counted in the overall population totals.

[ Hence, the "World Watchers Record" and their statistics are not correct when their figures show that at the beginning of 1995 the Earth's population consisted of 5.75 or 5.85 billion humans. The truth is, instead, that on February 14, 1995, the total population amounts already to 6.27 billion human beings, a substantially larger figure than the statistics indicated. The "World Population Watchers" apparently do not take this discrepancy too seriously; evidently, several hundred million people are of no great significance to them. But this is where they err immensely.

[ The population on Earth has reached the point where each and every human being is significant since each person contributes to the destruction and annihilation of all life on Earth, indeed the planet itself, in a constantly increasing proportion.

[ By the beginning of 1995, the world was populated by more than 6.27 billion humans; from this time onward, four more people per second are being added to this figure. The rate has since decreased marginally but, nevertheless, compare to the 19 3 figure it has increased by one person per second, which was the inevitable result when in 1994 many more individuals became sexually mature and are now bringing more children into the world.

[ Nearly three quarters (75%) of the Earth's inhabitants live in the developing countries; 2 billion of these people are starving, and every day 40,000 children die of hunger and malnutrition for a total of 14 million a year! Hunger generates every type of human adversity such as social tensions, revolutions and, ultimately, civil and international wars, whereby the battles for goods become increasingly more brutal and inhumane. For the people involved, a human life no longer has any meaning.

[ Entire nations are plunged into terrorism, anarchy and chaos. Hunger, misery, distress, war, persecution and massacres force people to flee their homelands and immense human migrations occur in proportions never before experienced. In the Spring of 1995 alone approximately 200 million refugees existed. The exodus from the Third World is set into motion like a gigantic human steamroller, which begins initially within their home regions, but will soon increasingly expand in a northern direction - toward the lure of the industrial, economic an welfare nations with their full cooking pots, wealth, luxury and employment opportunities.

[ However, through migration these opportunities become constantly rarer once the immigrants increasingly begin to occupy the jobs and are willing to work for lower salaries than the local residents, who lose their own livelihood and become welfare recipients as a result.

[ The wealthy 33% of the world's population reside in the northern industrial and economic nations, and on an average earn over ten times more per capita than the people in the poor Third World's nations to the South. This wealthy third produces 4/5 of the economic output in the world. In their unrestrained consumption craze, however, the inhabitants of the northern economic nations use 2/3 of the planet's natural resources, raw materials and energy reserves.

[ The total environmental destruction initiated by the northern industrial nations is by far more devastating, more destructive and annihilative than that produced by all Third World countries put together, even though the industrial nations have on hand more advance technology, and are more capable of protecting their environment and of preventing damage to their surroundings than the developing nations.

[ Approximately 70% of all motor vehicles in the world are in the northern hemisphere, and they greatly accelerate the industrial nations' share of atmospheric and environmental pollution. Furthermore, people living in the northern industrial nations use nearly 100 times more water per person than inhabitants of the Third World - therefore they generate the largest and most massive share of water pollution, e.g., creeks, rivers, lakes and oceans.

[ The steady increase in agricultural industrialization and its constant, unrelenting utilization of chemicals completely leach the soil and result in steadily decreasing harvests, increasing erosion and the rapidly escalating death of various species. Likewise, animals of all types are shot and exterminated in the "spirit of the sport" and for other threadbare reasons which, of course, exclude their protection and care by gamekeepers and wardens. Additionally, the world's oceans, creeks, rivers and lakes are over fished by small but highly mechanized fishing crews and fishing fleets with state-of-the-art technology. They negligently and irresponsibly decimate the supply of aquatic animals.

[ Today, the fish yield by these expeditions is rapidly diminishing and many types of fish and other aquatic dwellers are threatened with extinction, while others have been exterminated altogether. However, the Third World nations to the South irresponsibly and criminally deplete nature as well. People, criminally and systematically, are cutting down the tropical rain forests; and as of the beginning of 1995, the forests have already been reduced, destroyed or annihilated to half of their original size.

[ The irresponsible degree and speed of environmental changes generated by humans can be clearly witnessed through satellite surveillance. Indeed, remote sensing photos prove that the Aral Sea in the lowlands of Turan in Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan has shrunk by 50% in just 30 years, whereby 40% of that reduction occurred within a few years. This outlet-free salt lake is fed by the Amudarja and Syrdarja rivers, which can only reach into the lake during wet years, measured 54,400 square kilometres (21,004 square miles) in area. By 1990 the lake had shrunk by 40% over a period of 15 years, due to water depletion for irrigation. This shrinkage has led to the irrecoverable death of fish in this once fourth largest lake on Earth and has brought to an end the fishing industry and utilization of its fish.

[ The blame rests upon agriculturists technicians, scientists and the government. One group drained water from the lake for intensive irrigation of gardens and agricultural grounds, the other groups provided the means and ways to do this, while the government in charge authorized everything and looked on without intervening. Such actions occur in nearly all nations on Earth, but are simply modified in one way or another depending on the circumstances.

[ In the Mediterranean Sea, enormous destruction results, therefore, when various types of fertilizers and sewage drift into the sea from the Po river plains, and the Adriatic Sea becomes constantly polluted. The result from this pollution is a growing, horrendous annual algae plague that suffocates all lower life in the sea. Likewise, the harbour towns of Naples, Genoa, Brindisi, Catania, Syracusa, Trapani, Palermo, Marseille and many others contribute their share to this pollution as they simply route their poisonous sewage into the sea. ]


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http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_M...opulation_Bomb

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Old 10-29-2009, 01:25 PM   #27
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Well J_Rod7. You seem pretty much convinced of this idea that we are too many on Earth, 90% too many...

So, it is up to you. I am sorry to disappoint you but both the idea of overpopulation and birth control were first initiated from the Elite of our planet and their ''Experts''. Fredkc provided some popular words coming from their own mouth.

Also, it will not happen. Their plan (or yours) will simply not happen. Their time is ending because we are awakening. Earth is a sentient being. Creation is a sentient being. And their is an evolution going on. Old Paradigm will simply vanished.

Let the ideas of others to fall on the ground and begin to think by yourself. Propagation of this false idea of overpopulation does a great damage on the mass consciousness of Humanity. By seeding more minds with this thought, the mass consciousness unconsciously ask to reduce its number and the Universal Laws will answer not necessary by birth control...

It is like a mind who unconscioulsy ask for dying, a suicide. It is a virus your should get rid of quickly. And stop spreading it all over, it will come back to you in a manner you might not like.

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Old 10-29-2009, 01:40 PM   #28
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To me the math in the article does not compute. I think the earth knows how to take care of her children. Water is crucial. How is it going in Venezuela? Are they still out of fresh water? Didn't Chavez say to take 3 minute showers? This is sad because the argument above is being used against them, when it is not true. Where's the party?
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Old 10-29-2009, 03:22 PM   #29
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this thread is full of complete tosh.. rockafella wouod be pissing in his pants reading this.. more suckers for the chop great.. thi thread is nazi esq and full of **** and disinfo,,
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Steven,

[ "Their time is ending because we are awakening. Earth is a sentient being. Creation is a sentient being. And their is an evolution going on. Old Paradigm will simply vanished." ] = I cannot just sit by and HOPE that you are right in this.

If the Human Beings of Earth have no 'Road-Signs', no direction or ideas where and what exit to take, how to get off the merry-go-round of the current social madness, then it will not BE in the collective Consciousness for any Paradigm Shift. In other words, without clear goals for the Human race, everything will continue to deteriorate.

What are we evolving TOWARDS, if the the Humans have no concept of the Spiritual Truths. This requires the self-responsibility and ACTION -- real work -- by individuals to gain the knowledge and discernment to apply an awakened consciousness in the living of truth. This is not simply 'Endowed' into the minds of Human Beings.

[ (the Earth Human collective unconsciousness)..."...a mind who unconscioulsy ask for dying, a suicide." ] = A reduction of the Total Human population is NOT a 'suicide' of the Human race. It is, rather, a recognition of the self-responsibility (again) to gain mastery over the current social paradigm to make the Earth a better place. We don't advocate this to be done by wars, killings, allowing pandemics, or allowing mass starvations. We certainly don't trust any government programs or pogroms to do this with equal justice.

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[ "To me the math in the article does not compute." ] =
= Could you please be a little more specific? I'm sure you don't need help doing simple math (no?, yes?).

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Old 10-29-2009, 05:15 PM   #31
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...I cannot just sit by and HOPE that you are right in this...
You will not have to wait to much if you are eager to see it happen. We are on the verge of entering into the ultimate stage of an evolution that began 16 billion years ago. The last stage is the awakening to the consciousness of co-creation. Humanity will acquire the global concept that Universal Laws are active at consciousness level and that our consciousness is shaping realities both individualy and collectivly.

See this here: http://www.calleman.com/content/pyra...sciousness.htm

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Old 10-29-2009, 07:13 PM   #32
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hand a shotgun to anyone who says we need to reduce the population.

They can start with themselves first.
I can think of several NWO Elite Old Codgers fitting that description that constantly shoot their mouths off about this subject who have obviously been here waaaay too long.

(No offense to normal Old Codgers)
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The following extract came in my email today from Sorcha Faal. Worthy of consideration in light of the topic at hand. ...


[ Being lost to the American people about these critical events
accelerating around our World, aside from their crucial lack of
knowledge as to whom is really fighting for whom, is that by even the
most optimistic estimates, the ravages of climate change has so
decimated our Planets ability to feed itself there remains “only months”
before massive starvation begins.

[ Most critical on the list of our World’s regions being decimated is Iraq
where the drought in that Middle Eastern country is said now to be the
worst since the “earliest days of civilization”. Expected next to fall
to the ravages of climate change is India, who though being the World’s
second largest rice grower is now reporting it is going to have to start
importing this vital grain for the first time in 21 years after its
failed monsoon season, said to be the weakest since 1972, and
catastrophic flooding in other regions have crippled its ability to feed
itself.

[ So dire have the conditions grown in Asia, that new reports are now
warning that this regions food security is now at risk, and with China
having declared earlier this year that their catastrophic drought is now
the worst in 50 years, the ominous 2004 secret report given by the
Pentagon to then President Bush warning that “climate change will
destroy us” is now coming true.

[ And to the most horrific statement issued by the Pentagon in this report
that warns “disruption and conflict will be endemic features of life,
once again, warfare will define human life” we must all take notice of
for our greatest understanding of these times.

[ For being forgotten in this “new age” of Global economic collapse and
chaos, by the vast majority of Westerners, is that economic crisis such
as these have throughout history always been “paired” with great climate
upheavals, such as the last “cycle in the wheel” during the 20th Century
which saw the Great Depression (1929-1940) being paired with the Great
American Dustbowl (1930-1940), the Great Chinese Famine (1929-1936), the
Great Soviet Famine (1932-1933) and Ukraine Famine (1932-1933), and
which cycles have always overturned what was and created New World
Orders.

[ And this bears more than a passing mention due to an addendum to these
reports, prepared for Putin by one of his most important advisors, the
Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska, who though banned from ever entering
the United States was secreted by US FBI agents into New York, and where
in a series of meetings with US banking giant Goldman Sachs and the now
US government owned auto giant General Motors, he “confirmed” that the
American banking, financial and political elite factions had “looted”
nearly the entire wealth of the United States, and is continuing to do
so, as they fully expect their Nation to collapse before the end of 2010
and have “positioned themselves” to be the rulers in the New World Order
to come.

[ Being left out of this diabolical equation, however, are the American
people themselves, who by the time they decide to awaken from their long
drunken slumber will awaken into a World they are not nearly equipped
enough to understand or comprehend, especially the horrors of mass death
and catastrophes that will soon surround their every waking moment.

[ As to those of us who seek to awaken these peoples to the brutal
realities which lie ahead of them? As always, we are met by scorn and
ridicule. But in truth, what more can be expected of peoples such as
these, who have forsaken the wisdom of their ancestors who left in these
witless souls care what was once the Greatest Nation our World has ever
seen, but in their rush for material riches and decadent perversions
have squandered it all away.

[ To be scorned and ridiculed by peoples such as these there is no shame;
it should be worn like a badge of honor. ]


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This may be the way Nature intends to "cull-the-herd" of the Human Overpopulation. Those which have not awakened to this impending reality, are destined to "sleep the long-sleep" until they will reincarnate into the new Earth.

I cannot mourn for them, for they have chosen their own path in this life.

I shall wear my "Badge of Honor" with quiet dignity.


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Hello J_Rod7.

Here is the protagonist behind your group philosophy. Billy Meir.

Or he is a madman with very dangerous ideas, or a front used by the "Elite" to make us believe in their agenda, or a real contactee, used by the ETs doing the intervention on Earth, spreading their tyrannic agenda through the man.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Main_Page

If you read the contact report link, it will bring you to a supposly conversation of Billy Meir with an entity named Quetzal (not necessary the real one). If you go through the reading of these conversation, you will clearly see the tyrannic view of this being upon Earth and Humanity. If we would adopt all they are telling us to do, we would live with so many restriction it would be even hard to breath.

And, this man is always behind the "galactic federation of light" material. No wonder his adepts are spreading all sorts of confusion in the UFO searchers movement.

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This is the second thread on this subject..and I believe everything that needs to be said on the issue is in this thread..there are pros and cons..and then unfortunately in the end..it turned ugly...however the point is..there is lots of information in that thread to support the idea that it is an agend to make us believe there is an "over population problem"..so have fun reading it..and take some notes for this thread if you wish.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=12538
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This is the second thread on this subject..and I believe everything that needs to be said on the issue is in this thread..there are pros and cons..and then unfortunately in the end..it turned ugly...however the point is..there is lots of information in that thread to support the idea that it is an agend to make us believe there is an "over population problem"..so have fun reading it..and take some notes for this thread if you wish.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=12538
The length of the thread would take me about a three days to read all. If they have not understood the point after so many words, it is pointless... They simply do not get it. Oh well, it's their focus and their nightmare, certainly not mine.

The wake up call is coming anyway and we are right on time!

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The length of the thread would take me about a three days to read all. If they have not understood the point after so many words, it is pointless... They simply do not get it. Oh well, it's their focus and their nightmare, certainly not mine.

The wake up call is coming anyway and we are right on time!

Namaste, Steven
Yes Steve...it is long...as I see this one getting...with the same long differences of opinion. The very same ideas thrown out there.
This is a diversion tactic to the real problems, in my opinion..other than that..I've given all of my ideas on that thread...I've added enough to the fire.
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I will add...take a look at who heads up these "actions"...are they connected to Royalty? Government?...see who the heads of the organizations are. This should give you a clue
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Well, I did. And went up to the Galactic Federation of light! Isn't it very royal!

Just the number of 529 mil was enough to me to be totally convinced it is an "Elite" agenda. You just kick the garbage can and the rats come out.

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Well, our Circle has NO AFFILIATION WHATSOEVER with the so-called "Galactic Federation of Light"

Can anyone prove that any such "Federation" even exists?
No? I didn't think so.

Has this "Federation" produced VOLUMES of Spiritual Guidance for the Human Beings on Earth?
No? I didn't think so.

From what I see, the persons behind this so-called "Federation" are a bunch of Egoistic wanna-bes. The material they use has been obviously Plagiarized from the Contact Notes of Billy Meier. In some cases, such Plagiarism borders on Copyright Infringement.

Back on Topic here, there is a disturbing report you all might consider. This presents but ONE SYMPTOM of the Gross Over-Population: ...


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Overpopulation Drives Global Starvation

The Global Over-Population is literally depleting available resources to properly feed many Millions of our fellow Human Beings. With current estimates that nearly One-Billion Humans are at near-starvation NOW, living at barely "sustenance" levels, it will not take much more to push these over the "tipping-point" a point of no return into the miserable death which comes with starvation.

Unfortunately, that "tipping-point" is now upon us in this world. The recent global droughts in the USA, China, Iraq, Iran, India, Africa, Australia, and more -- has decimated the crops of essential rice, corn, and wheat throughout the World. WE are now set to see upwards of TWO-BILLION of our fellow Human Beings actually starve to death.

This is a "Wake-Up-Call" like never before. That we have not yet united in action to grasp the problem of Over-population, to call for the Humanitarian Reduction by limiting the births of so many in all the Nations on Earth -- has led us all into witness of the impending Human Tragedy.

Let's learn the lessons which Nature has to teach us by this "culling-of-the-herd" -- We must unite in action for the reduction of the Earth Population to sustainable levels according with the ability of the Earth to provide food and resources for ALL. The true sustainable population is One-Billion or less Human Beings according to the actual "carrying capacity" of the Earth.

Starvation is NOT a pleasant death, as revealed in this following Medical description. Warning, the faint-of-heart may find this to be quite disturbing.


Death by starvation

How many people are starved to death in one day is not the topic, as no starvation statistics provides accurate estimation of starvation deaths worldwide. Here we will see how starved people goes to the jaws of death and what body changes occurs with starvation.

Starvation or inaniation does not necessarily result from deprivation of food, it may result from partial deprivation of food or from the use of unsuitable food, e.g lacking in proteins/vitamins.

Fatal period = An adult may survive for about 10-12 days without food and water. If only water is being supplied, this period may extend to 50-60 days.

A very young person and aged suffer most from starvation. Females because of having more fats can withstand it better than males, similarly an obese more than lean. Starvation effects are least felt so long as body temperature is maintained by clothing. Extremes of temperature acceleate the effects.

If the food has been stopped suddenly and completely, it causes an acute type of starvation. In first 30 to 48-hrs, a starved person feels intense thirst and hunger pains. His face turns pale, mouth dry and parched, saliva thick, urine scanty & highly clored.

After 48-hours, dehydration and emaciation signs set in. His breath is foul and offensive and body with disagreeable odor. His voice is weak, pulse feeble, BP low and is having subnormal temperature. Apathy & pronounced fatigue having cadoveric looks. Hair becomes dry, lusterless and brittle. Nails become brittle and ridged. Skin may show increasd pigmentation, ulceration & fissuring dryness. Edema may occur due to hypoprotenemia.

Eyes sink, pupil dilate, lips and tongue appear dry. Constipation is observed, but no infective diarrhea or dysentery. Urine becomes scanty and turbid - that may contain acetone, albumin & low chloride.

Intellect remains clear up to the end, sometimes convulsions and delirium proceed death.

In chronic starvation where there is gradual deficient supply of food, the signs are same as that of acute starvation but are ore drawn with greater emaciation. Vitality of individual is reduced and he may die from incurrent disease.

Postmortem appearance (External)

Following signs will be apparent in a person died of starvation that the doctors observe also before reporting cause of death as starvation.

1 )Filthy and vermonious clothing, filthy and emaciated body with unpleasant smell.
2) Soft pale and wasted muscles, dry and coated tongue.
3) Dry lusterless brittle hair, brittle and ridged nails.
4) Decompositions starts early.
5) Cheeks and temple hollow.
6) Ulceration and bed sore maybe present.

Postmortem appearance (Internal)

1) Reduction in size and weight of all organs except brain.
2) Organs are pale.
3) Heart small, pale, flabby and usually empty.
4) Urinary bladder empty.
5) Gall bladder full and distended.
7) Lungs pale and collapsed
8) kidneys free from surrounding fat
9) Bones demineralized and areas of rarefaction are seen on x-ray picture.
10) Intestine empty, contracted and walls are like tissue paper, more or less transparent is a sure sign that tells a person died of starvation.

No amount of Food-Aid, nor "throwing money" at this, will either make it "go-away", nor provide any true relief. This is a harsh lesson for the Humanity of Earth.


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you dont need a website for this eugenics **** .. the w.h.o are about to make you very happy by releasing the next virus.. end this f****ing offensive thread now please..


billy meir is probably being visited by black ops peple from earth... if hes real at all ... this is the new green movement.. et says we have to all die so they can use the planet.. let me think ...... no thanks.. f**k billy meir

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Old 01-27-2010, 12:19 AM   #43
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The point MUST be made = there is a RATIONAL and VIABLE solution to the Global Over-Population.

The 'HeadBangers of the NWO' are clearly out in left field, not understanding this one simple fact =

= Reincarnation is the reality for ALL Human Beings.

The World you leave behind when you die from THIS Life, will be the World you come back to in the NEXT.

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Old 01-28-2010, 12:33 AM   #44
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Here is my view:

1). The world is not over populated at all. It can support hundreds of billions if managed correctly.

2). Global warning is a hoax. I do not believe it. However, I do believe that our environment is being destroyed -- and unnecessarily so.
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I agree with you.

We're not over-populated. Here is a post on the topic: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...447#post149447

Global warming/climate change is the "noble lie" the elite use to manipulate the public into going along with their New World Order agenda.
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mmmmm... yes over population and climate control fear mongering... These are the wet dreams of tyrants. Nothing more, nothing less.
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The world isn't over populated.

No one needs to die.

No one needs to be sterilized.

No one needs to be prevented from the right of a family.

What we need to do is stop mass producing throw away products so that new products can be created the next week. We need to grab those clowns who are running the world and stick mercury shots in THEIR necks, instead of letting them do that to us while trying to convince us that we're a disease that needs to be culled down to 500,000,000.

I personally find the whole idea of population reduction ridiculous, and further I find any suggestions of sterilization, abortion or killing off current members of the population outright offensive and angering.

The world is NOT over populated. It is miss managed.

Period.
I totally agree with all the above posters and the points made.

I would like to add a few of my own observations:

1) where does these population numbers come from? from the government who is a notorious liar. Thus we must ask ourselves how accurate are these numbers? Could the population actually be much less than reported? I read the local death notices and birth reports. I see more deaths than births to be honest. I looked up the census stats for my country for the last 40 years and the numbers have changed little.

2) Keeping in mind recent scandals such as Climategate, the bail-outs, stimulus packages, fake terror wars, pre-census workers "gps painting," political scandals and so on...does this warrant doubt of official numbers, death tolls and coming food shortages?

3) IMHO the government learned 2 things from Vietnam wars: a) own the main stream media and b) have a boogie man to fight. they appear to have both.

4) what scares the government the most? The sheeple? the 'awakening" pr the internet? I will go with the internet.

5) the internet has become a psy-op war game. Much disinfo out there.

IMHO the real danger isn't over population is mainstreaming agriculture to mega farmers who feed most of the population. 2% of the people feed 98% of the people. Who ever controls the food controls the world. If they can convince us that we are over populated they can use it as an excuse, like the war on terror, so we don't know they are purposely screwing with supply and demand.

Our problems are not over population but rather...mega farming.

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Old 01-28-2010, 03:24 AM   #45
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the whole system has been et up to fail so they can accomplish their right to choose who dies and lives J under their sytem you die not rich enough and your genetic make up doesn`t count .

I`m not saying thats the way it is but they will. Starvation has been in the works for years get farms to set up as industrial food producers for the whole world instead of communal farming and this is what you get. Problem is when people need food thewy are going to look to the all present let me take your hand and show you what to eat government . Why too lazy and picky to eat what nature has to offer they have been trained as to what food is and isn`t

And M1 made a great post at the start of this thread anyone who has thwe nerve to say overpopulation is here and the herd needs thinning please by all means don`t wait for anyone to show you how to thin it be an example and show the world you care enough to start the project as the first one to thin it out
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:30 AM   #46
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Hi Housemouse2 (what became of #1? ). Good to make your acquaintance.

You ask first: ["where does these population numbers come from? from the government who is a notorious liar."] -- Yes I agree that government figures are off-the-mark = their conclusion is around 1.2=BILLION LOW.

The true numbers are now in the range at: = 7.8-BILLION Human Beings alive on Earth. The population growth rate is now on an exponential rising curve. This is true for the entire Earth, and not the consideration of only the industrialized-technological countries. At this rate, if unchecked, there may be 10-Billion Humans by 2015-2018. The last 10-years went by so fast, the next 5 or 8 will overtake us in the "blink-of-the-Eye."

The 10-Billion will want to cut down huge numbers of trees to build houses; they will want to eat the food that you had wanted; they will build more homes on top of yours; more arable land will disappear under asphalt, under malls, resulting in less land to grow crops. The Oxygen level of our atmosphere is declining at an increased rate, this due to the greatly increased CO2, commensurate with the destruction of the Rainforests - the lungs of the Earth which provided the Oxygen.

Dire Warnings? We have been warned for more than 60-years, that this would be upon us all, unless the Earth Humans took the Rational and Logical actions THEN to balance the Global Population.

New World Order? NWO? They are a bunch of mad greedy manipulators which have NO CLUE how to HUMANELY extricate Humanity from this mess. They are intent only on grabbing what they can before it all goes down.

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Old 01-28-2010, 10:01 AM   #47
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hmmm..I wonder at what point people will decide to curb our pop growth, will we all have to be standing shoulder to shoulder and starving.

Oh yes I forgot, everyone has this god given right to breed to their hearts content so therefore they must act on it, dont worry about the whole 'food/air' deal. Take Australia for example, we could probably stuff a billion people in , after all we have soooo much land. Soon as someone can tell me where all the food and water will come from to support them all then I'll agree with the 'breed forever' believers.

And dont worry about all the climate change stuff either, all those tons of CO2 just vanish into space somewhere.
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:36 AM   #48
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Hi Neo,

Spot on, friend.

Finally someone who sees through the Mirage put up by the Manipulators.

Good on ya matey.

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Old 02-07-2010, 09:06 PM   #49
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In the interests of fairness and equality, I say those who support and spread this garbage, should be the first ones to volunteer for elimination. Set an example for the rest of us.


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Old 02-08-2010, 06:00 AM   #50
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In the interests of fairness and equality, I say those who support and spread this garbage, should be the first ones to volunteer for elimination. Set an example for the rest of us


second that and what is this obnoxious thread doing here anyway?

You cannot argue in the support of forced (covert) sterilizations or abortions!
isnt the New World Order way ahead of you one this one, they've been at it for decades eliminating anyone they dont want to have to deal with, by whatever means necessary.
Isn't 30 million fewer chinese baby girls enough for you?
how about a mother forcibly returned to China 7 months preganant, the govt. knowing she would be forced to have her child aborted? Would youl like to be in that situation?
How about genocide in Darfur, still not enough; vaacines then, kill off 1/3 of Africa with an engineered virus, thats a goodie!
Propoents of this most odious agenda NEVER include themselves in the euquation, do you jrod7?

What you are proposing reminds me of the sign citizens in feudal England had to put on their door:

Fornication Under Consent of the King

there are plenty of solutions to food, water etc, do your research, there are loads of breakthrough technologies, the problem is the paradigm of thinking that would propose such an idea in the first place.
i find this topic and the assumptions inherent within this topic extremely contemptible.

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